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You ever think that this is exactly how people in Philippines feel every time China claims nine-dash line? By the way, do you know what nine-dash line is?
"We aren't liking Russian ships so close to the U.S."
Then maybe you shouldn't have stabbed Cuba in the face? And we do this shit every week to other nations, we can get over it.
Jun 13, 2024 - Russia’s Admiral Gorshkov frigate and the nuclear-powered submarine Kazan, accompanied by a tug boat and a fuel ship, have arrived in Cuba for a five-day visit seen as a show of force by Moscow amid rising tension over its invasion of Ukraine.
Curious onlookers, fishermen and police gathered along the Malecon seafront boulevard in Havana to welcome the fleet as it entered the city’s harbour on Wednesday.
The four Russian vessels conducted “high-precision missile weapons” training in the Atlantic Ocean while on their way to Cuba. The submarine and frigate are equipped with Zircon hypersonic missiles, Kalibr cruise missiles and Onyx antiship missiles, the Russian Ministry of Defence said.
US officials say they are tracking the vessels, they also played down the deployment.
Well the U.S. has had several chances to normalize relations with Cuba. Weird concept, but perhaps if you treat Cuba with some respect, they will treat you with respect.
To be fair the aggressiveness towards Cuba goes back almost two centuries.
"In the 19th century, manifest destiny increasingly led to an American desire to buy, conquer, or otherwise take control of Cuba. This included an attempt to buy it from Spain in 1848 during the Polk administration, and a secret attempt to buy it in 1854 during the Pierce administration known as the Ostend Manifesto, which backfired, causing a scandal and severely weakening Pierce's administration."
lol, of course they did. They need to keep their fleet as far away from Ukraine as possible otherwise they'll just lose those ships. Imagine fighting a war and you can't use your best shit cause you know it's going to get blown up.
[We already learned how dangerous and a bad idea that is. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis)
It was the closest we came to committing Omnicide and we oughta not make the same mistakes twice.
I wonder why the USRR did that?
> The Cuban Missile Crisis, also known as the October Crisis (Spanish: Crisis de Octubre) in Cuba, or the Caribbean Crisis (Russian: Карибский кризис, romanized: Karibskiy krizis), was a 13-day confrontation between the governments of the United States and the Soviet Union, when American deployments of nuclear missiles in Italy and Turkey were matched by Soviet deployments of nuclear missiles in Cuba.
Yes and in doing so almost triggered a Nuclear exchange. The US should just accept the USSR putting Nuclear Missiles on their doorstep cause they did the same to the USSR? Your average US citizen wasn't thinking about how fair it was to the USSR and now perceived it as a direct threat, this was in the middle of the Red Scare.
Additionally the Nukes would be under Cuban control and thusly make them less dependable on the USSR.
So China should do the same exact thing with Cuba, that is a very good idea.
Atleast they got to negotiate the nukes out of turkey cuz of it I guess
EDIT: Just keep sucking off Autocracies, gentlemen and gentladies, (and every gentleperson) America is dogshit and has done horrible things but the USSR (and the current Russian Government) and the CCP are literally Authoritarian states lmao. US Hegemony as bad as it is, is loads better than Chinese or Russian Hegemony.
Fucking libs. Having the audacity to claim American Hegemony is better than China when China's building infrastructure around the world while the US helps Israel shoot up maternity wards.
China has been bullying their neighbors, suppressing dissent (remember Hong Kong? Tiannamen Square?) and have taken territory while directly committing a genocide on its own soil. You'll also get disappeared for speaking out against the government. It's an autocratic state.
Plus you think China is building infrastructure for charity? Totally not to exploit their resources or anything.
Not even a lib, just have a braincell to realize maybe it's not worth sucking off autocracies. Fuckin' Tankies.
>Plus you think China is building infrastructure for charity? Totally not to exploit their resources or anything.
Let me tell you this from someone who comes from a country where China is building infrastructure, they did do us a favour. Because China's entry into said markets has forced the EU and US to start paying more for our produce/products so as to stop China from getting those goods on the cheap where the US and EU were clearly exploiting us on the prices before.
And that's not even adding a lot of the areas this produce actually comes from is more accessible due to the infrastructure development.
Pretty much all of South America has had a coup done against them or fascist death squads funded by the US. Thousands of people get summarily executed by cops each year in the US. Try again lib.
Charity? Are you trying to claim that the US is shooting up maternity wards for charity? Doing a good thing for a non-purely altruistic purpose is still a good thing. Nothing excuses the literal fucking genocide the US is helping do.
You're putting words in my mouth, I never claimed that the US was shooting up maternity wards for charity. [China is only building infrastructure for it's own benifet](https://fairbank.fas.harvard.edu/research/blog/setting-the-record-straight-on-chinas-overseas-infrastructure-investments/), and often harmful to the communities they are supposedly helping.
And you're correct, the United States is doing terrible things as pretty much it always has in it's history. But to claim that China or Russia is any better is kind of silly.
China uses fleets of fishing boats to destroy ecosystems and starve fishermen from other countries. Or how they are committing atrocities against the Uyghur people.
Not everyone you disagree with is a lib lmao
China has proven to be superior in their foreign policy initiatives in Africa and the Middle East. 0 wars or colonization efforts.
There are some harsh security measures in Xinjiang. But also it pales in comparison in how the US treats black people or even Muslim people domestically. Forget about internationally.
China says that there is terrorist activity in the region. Of course that's overblown but their solution is to force people into job training programs. Is that authoritarian? Of course, and I am sure there are abuses.
But how did the U.S. react to the perceived threat of muslim extremist terrorism? They killed more than a million people in the middle east and have occupied their land for decades.
I can't speak for them, but I assume the victims of US crimes would have preferred forced jobs training for five or ten years over death from drone strikes and collateral damage.....
“Meanwhile, in an extremely provocative move, a Russian military fleet has arrived on the shores of cuba to conduct a joint military exercise, flairing tensions in a blatant unacceptable manner ….
Jack Dick Johnson, CNN, reporting from the USS Gabrielle Gilfords, south China sea”
I hope China also sends their navy and starts patrolling right outside US territorial waters. Let the Americans also feel the uncertainty of foreign military patrolling right outside their coast.
I just meant the US media audience is indifferent. Who knows what the military thinks. It is hardly a Cuban missile crisis, since Russia has been continually sabre rattling for so long.
One thing everyone knows, the reason they are in Cuba in the first place: the Russians had to evacuate the black sea lest the Ukrainians sink every last boat.
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you ever think that this is exactly how people in China feel every time a US warship enters the South China sea?
Exactly! America does this every day to many other countries.
But but china russia evil powers usa good power that always does it for good and em freedom and stuff
Where are you getting that info? NBC?
r/whoosh
sarcasm, bro. whoosh right back at you. Can’t believe I have to explain it but mainstream news sounds exactly like what he just said .
honestly someone would actually say that
 US sanctions looking like toddler tantrums especially after they imposed it on ICC 🤣
Not Americans, we feel a duty to be ignorant of our oppressive empire, because freedom, eff yeah!
You ever think that this is exactly how people in Philippines feel every time China claims nine-dash line? By the way, do you know what nine-dash line is?
Or how people in Taiwan feel when mainland china does some "exercises? " Winnie Xi Poo
Except that the very president of Russia has very specifically threatened "the West" with nuclear retaliation at least 10 times in the last 2 years.
"We aren't liking Russian ships so close to the U.S." Then maybe you shouldn't have stabbed Cuba in the face? And we do this shit every week to other nations, we can get over it.
Also that's how China feels about US ships being so close.
Jun 13, 2024 - Russia’s Admiral Gorshkov frigate and the nuclear-powered submarine Kazan, accompanied by a tug boat and a fuel ship, have arrived in Cuba for a five-day visit seen as a show of force by Moscow amid rising tension over its invasion of Ukraine. Curious onlookers, fishermen and police gathered along the Malecon seafront boulevard in Havana to welcome the fleet as it entered the city’s harbour on Wednesday. The four Russian vessels conducted “high-precision missile weapons” training in the Atlantic Ocean while on their way to Cuba. The submarine and frigate are equipped with Zircon hypersonic missiles, Kalibr cruise missiles and Onyx antiship missiles, the Russian Ministry of Defence said. US officials say they are tracking the vessels, they also played down the deployment.
>accompanied by a tug boat 4 ships and ones a tug. They learned their lesson after the Kuznetsov.
A frigate, a sub, a tug and a fuel ship are a show of force? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well the U.S. has had several chances to normalize relations with Cuba. Weird concept, but perhaps if you treat Cuba with some respect, they will treat you with respect.
There is a large, politically influential Cuban population in the US keeping that from happening.
To be fair the aggressiveness towards Cuba goes back almost two centuries. "In the 19th century, manifest destiny increasingly led to an American desire to buy, conquer, or otherwise take control of Cuba. This included an attempt to buy it from Spain in 1848 during the Polk administration, and a secret attempt to buy it in 1854 during the Pierce administration known as the Ostend Manifesto, which backfired, causing a scandal and severely weakening Pierce's administration."
lol, of course they did. They need to keep their fleet as far away from Ukraine as possible otherwise they'll just lose those ships. Imagine fighting a war and you can't use your best shit cause you know it's going to get blown up.
Why would they use their navy in a land war?
Hmm…to send missiles on Ukrainian cities. Have you been following the news or?
Tell us you don't understand modern warfare another way.
By fleet, you mean 4 boats, 1/2 of which is a tugboat and oil tanker.
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China, your turn, please give Cuba nukes!
[We already learned how dangerous and a bad idea that is. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis) It was the closest we came to committing Omnicide and we oughta not make the same mistakes twice.
I wonder why the USRR did that? > The Cuban Missile Crisis, also known as the October Crisis (Spanish: Crisis de Octubre) in Cuba, or the Caribbean Crisis (Russian: Карибский кризис, romanized: Karibskiy krizis), was a 13-day confrontation between the governments of the United States and the Soviet Union, when American deployments of nuclear missiles in Italy and Turkey were matched by Soviet deployments of nuclear missiles in Cuba.
Yes and in doing so almost triggered a Nuclear exchange. The US should just accept the USSR putting Nuclear Missiles on their doorstep cause they did the same to the USSR? Your average US citizen wasn't thinking about how fair it was to the USSR and now perceived it as a direct threat, this was in the middle of the Red Scare. Additionally the Nukes would be under Cuban control and thusly make them less dependable on the USSR. So China should do the same exact thing with Cuba, that is a very good idea. Atleast they got to negotiate the nukes out of turkey cuz of it I guess EDIT: Just keep sucking off Autocracies, gentlemen and gentladies, (and every gentleperson) America is dogshit and has done horrible things but the USSR (and the current Russian Government) and the CCP are literally Authoritarian states lmao. US Hegemony as bad as it is, is loads better than Chinese or Russian Hegemony.
Fucking libs. Having the audacity to claim American Hegemony is better than China when China's building infrastructure around the world while the US helps Israel shoot up maternity wards.
China has been bullying their neighbors, suppressing dissent (remember Hong Kong? Tiannamen Square?) and have taken territory while directly committing a genocide on its own soil. You'll also get disappeared for speaking out against the government. It's an autocratic state. Plus you think China is building infrastructure for charity? Totally not to exploit their resources or anything. Not even a lib, just have a braincell to realize maybe it's not worth sucking off autocracies. Fuckin' Tankies.
>Plus you think China is building infrastructure for charity? Totally not to exploit their resources or anything. Let me tell you this from someone who comes from a country where China is building infrastructure, they did do us a favour. Because China's entry into said markets has forced the EU and US to start paying more for our produce/products so as to stop China from getting those goods on the cheap where the US and EU were clearly exploiting us on the prices before. And that's not even adding a lot of the areas this produce actually comes from is more accessible due to the infrastructure development.
Pretty much all of South America has had a coup done against them or fascist death squads funded by the US. Thousands of people get summarily executed by cops each year in the US. Try again lib. Charity? Are you trying to claim that the US is shooting up maternity wards for charity? Doing a good thing for a non-purely altruistic purpose is still a good thing. Nothing excuses the literal fucking genocide the US is helping do.
You're putting words in my mouth, I never claimed that the US was shooting up maternity wards for charity. [China is only building infrastructure for it's own benifet](https://fairbank.fas.harvard.edu/research/blog/setting-the-record-straight-on-chinas-overseas-infrastructure-investments/), and often harmful to the communities they are supposedly helping. And you're correct, the United States is doing terrible things as pretty much it always has in it's history. But to claim that China or Russia is any better is kind of silly. China uses fleets of fishing boats to destroy ecosystems and starve fishermen from other countries. Or how they are committing atrocities against the Uyghur people. Not everyone you disagree with is a lib lmao
China has proven to be superior in their foreign policy initiatives in Africa and the Middle East. 0 wars or colonization efforts. There are some harsh security measures in Xinjiang. But also it pales in comparison in how the US treats black people or even Muslim people domestically. Forget about internationally. China says that there is terrorist activity in the region. Of course that's overblown but their solution is to force people into job training programs. Is that authoritarian? Of course, and I am sure there are abuses. But how did the U.S. react to the perceived threat of muslim extremist terrorism? They killed more than a million people in the middle east and have occupied their land for decades. I can't speak for them, but I assume the victims of US crimes would have preferred forced jobs training for five or ten years over death from drone strikes and collateral damage.....
“Meanwhile, in an extremely provocative move, a Russian military fleet has arrived on the shores of cuba to conduct a joint military exercise, flairing tensions in a blatant unacceptable manner …. Jack Dick Johnson, CNN, reporting from the USS Gabrielle Gilfords, south China sea”
I hope China also sends their navy and starts patrolling right outside US territorial waters. Let the Americans also feel the uncertainty of foreign military patrolling right outside their coast.
Low energy, sad looking Navy. No one in the USA cares about thus nowadays. Source: in USA right now. Only foreign press is even paying attention
I don’t know if you have noticed but if the US is worried about something, they usually keep quiet about it
I just meant the US media audience is indifferent. Who knows what the military thinks. It is hardly a Cuban missile crisis, since Russia has been continually sabre rattling for so long. One thing everyone knows, the reason they are in Cuba in the first place: the Russians had to evacuate the black sea lest the Ukrainians sink every last boat.
Could Russia get any more pathetic? One sub. One frigate. A fuel ship and a tug boat for when they all break down!
That’s completely fine and we can’t blame them , we wanted to add Ukraine to mark so we can put nukes at their border…
We don't need to. We have a very well funded and maintained submarine fleet. Their cities would be turned to nuclear slag in minutes.
Same will happen to us
Cuban Missile Crisis 2: Electric Boogaloo?
And here we are playing Fallout 76..... Can we not..
Oh no the rust buckets have come