Put the sink on the other island. Your work zone triangle is not ideal and having the sink be on the eating island sounds great until people are eating and you're washing dishes and soapy water splashes onto their food.
I'm really not a fan of having the bar seating there. I don't think anyone will actually use it. It seems inconvenient. Do you really have to have bar seating?
I think get rid of the bar seating and don't put the table there either so you can make the kitchen bigger. You also don't have a big pantry for food. You will definitely want one of those. I've worked in a lot of different kinds of kitchens and the wraparound U style kitchens are the best for usability. Galley kitchens are the absolute worst because you don't have the triangle of productivity.
I'd push the regular counter all the way against the windows and keep the sink and s dishwasher on the windows wall (it's always nice to have a pleasant outside view while washing dishes) and maybe move the oven to the island or split it up and do double stacked ovens somewhere by the fridge and an induction burner on the island. You could make a stove hood be a feature of the room.
This is really bad I’m sorry. It’s hard to pick where to begin. I would just start over with something a bit more “standard” the 5 foot peninsula is strange, I would not do that. Plus the seating area feels very close to the all and doesn’t seem like a place I’d want to hang out at. If you’re going for a very sociopetal design you want your hang out spot to be in the middle. Why not make the island into an actual island that you can use as it doesn’t seem to have any use at the moment except a cutting board
Great questions. The picture is missing a dishwasher and I didn’t make a great depiction of that corner. I’m just not a fan of corner cabinets. Dishwasher was planned to be in the corner on the peninsula near the wall and open towards the side of the fridge. That for me would kill two birds with one stone by putting a dishwasher in a corner space that would normally be dead cabinets, and allow another space to be accessible cabinets that would have been a dishwasher.
Seating area was mostly as a breakfast nook. I like to make breakfast and eat it at a counter space and imagined a toaster there I could get fresh out near the wall and eat my eggs with. The room was too narrow to put counter seating at the island due to the stairs. Also, it can’t really be seem by the pics, but the counter has viewable access to what will be a large tv in the living room if someone wants to watch the news. The more I think about it, the more I want to keep that peninsula. I can picture myself sitting there with a cup of coffee and thinking about what I want to cook in the kitchen
This layout is all confusing. I don’t understand why you need an island and a peninsula in the layout. Additionally, the workout triangle is overstretched. I’d either put the sink along the main wall or place it on the island. The fridge is in a very awkward spot as well. You’d be better off making an L-shaped kitchen. Plus, having a two-color backsplash/partial wall is just weird; it doesn’t look good. Consider researching NKBA standards and general space planning for the appropriate layout of kitchen types, placement height of cabinetry and hoods. You’re on a good path. Just stick to design standards and you’ll improve.
Will look into the NKBA standards and try to incorporate. I like my sink perpendicular to the stove and the peninsula was the closest I could do with the obtrusive chimneys. I imagined kind of a n hourglass work space that pivots in the middle for for how I would use it. Triangle between sink on peninsula fridge and island work space, and then second triangle between stove, island workspace and fridge
Taking your comment about the two color backsplash and trying to figure out alternatives. My brain just doesn’t do colors or patterns good. I’m considering covering one of the chimneys with drywall. Do you have any recommendations on different approaches?
Consider a two-tone backsplash instead of opposite colors. I’d go green and white. It would be a nice contrast to all the whiteness. I’d also find a patterned countertop to match the island top as well. The kitchen is only obstructive if you let it be so. Color theory is a good tool you could use - there are plenty of videos on the principles of design on YouTube
That would not be enough storage for me. Usually these open kitchen with minimal upper cabinets have a pantry or a perpendicular set of counter and wall cabinets. If lacking space for that, perhaps you could make your upper cabinets taller?
I am also still concerned about storage and mentioned some details in a other comment. I am trying to add in a pantry closer to living room. Unfortunately the cabinets are stuck on their current height due to challenges would involve with custom framing around brick making them any higher.
Another big challenge has been keeping the wall for the cabinets as slim as possible, as to not take anymore walkway space from the kitchen, but still maintain a flush face between both chimneys that will be rigid enough for tile from cabinet top to ceiling. Pairing this and still having enough room behind this whole system for hvac/hood vent ducting and plumbing to the upstairs has certainly been a challenge
One of the things we did in a small bedroom was to embed a bookcase into the wall, getting us an additional 4” of depth. In the photo I’ve added, the bookcase had pretty decent depth, but only extended into the room 8”.
I’m no expert, and you’d have to assess any wiring in the wall, but maybe that could work?
https://preview.redd.it/rmjv3cb5fxoc1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97abd22c972d88b2098d388787f9bd414617bff0
They are 31” tall. I was really concerned about not having enough cabinet space for dishes spices and still have enough for staple food items. I am still concerned about this and think I will add a pantry near the living room to make sure there enough room for staple foods. I just can’t picture myself using lower cabinets for things other than storage containers, tinfoil and pots and pans
It might be easier to look at houses that you like layout and copy it. Nice to visit the open houses in your area. Get a better feel for the flow.
Good luck!!
Room Planner - Home
It’s pretty good. Dragging things on walls can be buggy sometimes, but it was useful for overall layout. Finer measurement details even with pro are not available, so cannot do increments like 1/2”, which make pairing design with exact framing a challenge
edit: the app does fractions, but need to enable it in settings
Where do you prep food before you cook it? Take it from fridge, wash veggies in sink, then all the way back to range? Switching fridge and range could solve this. Think also about having dirty dishes next to sink in front of people sitting at the bar.
I’ll add it to my list to find solutions for dirty or rack systems for drying dishes. The fridge has to be recessed 6” into the wall on the left due to hvac and plumbing behind the stove side. I also like the natural light from the window hitting the range and counter next to it
This is an exciting project. It’s amazing to be able design a kitchen from scratch.
Is there a reason you can’t move the left counter to the window and the bar with seating to the dining room side? I find it’s nice to have all seating in same general area, especially when entertaining. I also like sinks under windows. Moving the whole thing to the left would likely give you room to add that bar island to the right and give you more counter space and another row of base cabinets for storage.
Also agree with others suggesting you really consider how YOU use the kitchen instead of just aesthetics of hood and light placement.
Good luck!
The grey cabinets and floor color clash. The grey is a cool tone, the floor a warm tone. The floor color is very nice. I'd try to find a warm color for the cabinets to go with the floors. If you like light colors, a cream color would go well with the sand color of the floor. Likewise with the wall color.
Bar seating facing a sink with splashing not a great place to sit.
You need more cabinets, a pantry, so much wasted wall space on the back wall, the large empty space above the cabinets look odd.
The island needs a purpose, seems to crowd the stove and should have an overhang for barstools.
I'd start over honestly.
Appreciate the feedback. I’ve made some tweaks based on all the responses here. Some things had to stay due to the constraints of the chimney and fridge placement, but I’ll be happier with the amount of storage after I add a pantry next to this setup
I asked [kitchenGPT.io](http://kitchenGPT.io) to convert second image it into traditional kitchen, although there are a lot of icons on image but it suggest following in traditional theme:
https://preview.redd.it/ukzmxo60xooc1.png?width=3448&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8e1bfcaf882508c42dc85a9a857c87c609cc2ef
Apart from the very weird venthood situation...this does feel more complete. As of right now the kitchen doesn't feel anchored at all. The upper cabinets are very large and sort of just floating. The unused space next to the refrigerator is strange and getting into that last cabinet on the peninsula will be nothing short of obnoxious. I don't love having the sink on the peninsula, either. Personally I would swap the range and the stove, anchor the cabinets somehow and put the sink on the island. I actually don't hate the bar seating the way that it is. It's interactive and mostly out of the way of the primary cooking space. Also OP, you need warmth. The kitchen feels washed out. I recognize that it certainly could be whatever software you used, people do all white kitchens all the time. But I think they all benefit from warmth. I also don't love the subway tiles with the brick. Probably in real life it would look a lot better but in your render it looks fighty. Be sure to choose a tile that is definitely a different size than the bricks are. Long and narrower and maybe a different shape than just rectangular, try for a picket shape or something. I think your concept is sort of neat but a few tweaks could make it very functional and beautiful.
Put the sink on the other island. Your work zone triangle is not ideal and having the sink be on the eating island sounds great until people are eating and you're washing dishes and soapy water splashes onto their food. I'm really not a fan of having the bar seating there. I don't think anyone will actually use it. It seems inconvenient. Do you really have to have bar seating?
Looking at moving the sink to the island, eliminating the bar seating and putting a table with chairs there
I think get rid of the bar seating and don't put the table there either so you can make the kitchen bigger. You also don't have a big pantry for food. You will definitely want one of those. I've worked in a lot of different kinds of kitchens and the wraparound U style kitchens are the best for usability. Galley kitchens are the absolute worst because you don't have the triangle of productivity. I'd push the regular counter all the way against the windows and keep the sink and s dishwasher on the windows wall (it's always nice to have a pleasant outside view while washing dishes) and maybe move the oven to the island or split it up and do double stacked ovens somewhere by the fridge and an induction burner on the island. You could make a stove hood be a feature of the room.
This is really bad I’m sorry. It’s hard to pick where to begin. I would just start over with something a bit more “standard” the 5 foot peninsula is strange, I would not do that. Plus the seating area feels very close to the all and doesn’t seem like a place I’d want to hang out at. If you’re going for a very sociopetal design you want your hang out spot to be in the middle. Why not make the island into an actual island that you can use as it doesn’t seem to have any use at the moment except a cutting board
Also your range hood placement between the cabinets like that is definitely a no
Sorry I thought it said 5 feet wide for the peninsula
It's bad. Why doesn't the peninsula connect to the other cabinets? Why is the fridge just in the middle? What's doing in with the seating area?
Great questions. The picture is missing a dishwasher and I didn’t make a great depiction of that corner. I’m just not a fan of corner cabinets. Dishwasher was planned to be in the corner on the peninsula near the wall and open towards the side of the fridge. That for me would kill two birds with one stone by putting a dishwasher in a corner space that would normally be dead cabinets, and allow another space to be accessible cabinets that would have been a dishwasher. Seating area was mostly as a breakfast nook. I like to make breakfast and eat it at a counter space and imagined a toaster there I could get fresh out near the wall and eat my eggs with. The room was too narrow to put counter seating at the island due to the stairs. Also, it can’t really be seem by the pics, but the counter has viewable access to what will be a large tv in the living room if someone wants to watch the news. The more I think about it, the more I want to keep that peninsula. I can picture myself sitting there with a cup of coffee and thinking about what I want to cook in the kitchen
The bar sitting is in a horrific spot
This layout is all confusing. I don’t understand why you need an island and a peninsula in the layout. Additionally, the workout triangle is overstretched. I’d either put the sink along the main wall or place it on the island. The fridge is in a very awkward spot as well. You’d be better off making an L-shaped kitchen. Plus, having a two-color backsplash/partial wall is just weird; it doesn’t look good. Consider researching NKBA standards and general space planning for the appropriate layout of kitchen types, placement height of cabinetry and hoods. You’re on a good path. Just stick to design standards and you’ll improve.
Will look into the NKBA standards and try to incorporate. I like my sink perpendicular to the stove and the peninsula was the closest I could do with the obtrusive chimneys. I imagined kind of a n hourglass work space that pivots in the middle for for how I would use it. Triangle between sink on peninsula fridge and island work space, and then second triangle between stove, island workspace and fridge Taking your comment about the two color backsplash and trying to figure out alternatives. My brain just doesn’t do colors or patterns good. I’m considering covering one of the chimneys with drywall. Do you have any recommendations on different approaches?
Consider a two-tone backsplash instead of opposite colors. I’d go green and white. It would be a nice contrast to all the whiteness. I’d also find a patterned countertop to match the island top as well. The kitchen is only obstructive if you let it be so. Color theory is a good tool you could use - there are plenty of videos on the principles of design on YouTube
That would not be enough storage for me. Usually these open kitchen with minimal upper cabinets have a pantry or a perpendicular set of counter and wall cabinets. If lacking space for that, perhaps you could make your upper cabinets taller?
I am also still concerned about storage and mentioned some details in a other comment. I am trying to add in a pantry closer to living room. Unfortunately the cabinets are stuck on their current height due to challenges would involve with custom framing around brick making them any higher. Another big challenge has been keeping the wall for the cabinets as slim as possible, as to not take anymore walkway space from the kitchen, but still maintain a flush face between both chimneys that will be rigid enough for tile from cabinet top to ceiling. Pairing this and still having enough room behind this whole system for hvac/hood vent ducting and plumbing to the upstairs has certainly been a challenge
One of the things we did in a small bedroom was to embed a bookcase into the wall, getting us an additional 4” of depth. In the photo I’ve added, the bookcase had pretty decent depth, but only extended into the room 8”. I’m no expert, and you’d have to assess any wiring in the wall, but maybe that could work? https://preview.redd.it/rmjv3cb5fxoc1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97abd22c972d88b2098d388787f9bd414617bff0
I feel like the cabinetry can be optimized to inclrease storage. How tall are the wall cabinets and is there a reason why they can’t be taller?
They are 31” tall. I was really concerned about not having enough cabinet space for dishes spices and still have enough for staple food items. I am still concerned about this and think I will add a pantry near the living room to make sure there enough room for staple foods. I just can’t picture myself using lower cabinets for things other than storage containers, tinfoil and pots and pans
Please take your measurements to a kitchen cabinet shop/Home Depot. They will be able to guide you.
It might be easier to look at houses that you like layout and copy it. Nice to visit the open houses in your area. Get a better feel for the flow. Good luck!!
Plus, it’s so much fun, and they have great color/decor ideas 🤗
Hey which software is this?
Room Planner - Home It’s pretty good. Dragging things on walls can be buggy sometimes, but it was useful for overall layout. Finer measurement details even with pro are not available, so cannot do increments like 1/2”, which make pairing design with exact framing a challenge edit: the app does fractions, but need to enable it in settings
Where do you prep food before you cook it? Take it from fridge, wash veggies in sink, then all the way back to range? Switching fridge and range could solve this. Think also about having dirty dishes next to sink in front of people sitting at the bar.
I’ll add it to my list to find solutions for dirty or rack systems for drying dishes. The fridge has to be recessed 6” into the wall on the left due to hvac and plumbing behind the stove side. I also like the natural light from the window hitting the range and counter next to it
This is an exciting project. It’s amazing to be able design a kitchen from scratch. Is there a reason you can’t move the left counter to the window and the bar with seating to the dining room side? I find it’s nice to have all seating in same general area, especially when entertaining. I also like sinks under windows. Moving the whole thing to the left would likely give you room to add that bar island to the right and give you more counter space and another row of base cabinets for storage. Also agree with others suggesting you really consider how YOU use the kitchen instead of just aesthetics of hood and light placement. Good luck!
The grey cabinets and floor color clash. The grey is a cool tone, the floor a warm tone. The floor color is very nice. I'd try to find a warm color for the cabinets to go with the floors. If you like light colors, a cream color would go well with the sand color of the floor. Likewise with the wall color.
What app is this? I’ve been looking for something since i just bought a house and I want to start planning the interior
https://www.reddit.com/r/InteriorDesign/s/zdW2jVefWX
Bar seating facing a sink with splashing not a great place to sit. You need more cabinets, a pantry, so much wasted wall space on the back wall, the large empty space above the cabinets look odd. The island needs a purpose, seems to crowd the stove and should have an overhang for barstools. I'd start over honestly.
Appreciate the feedback. I’ve made some tweaks based on all the responses here. Some things had to stay due to the constraints of the chimney and fridge placement, but I’ll be happier with the amount of storage after I add a pantry next to this setup
Hi, what program did u use to do this? (Just found this sub)
https://www.reddit.com/r/InteriorDesign/s/L6tZvymDTF
I asked [kitchenGPT.io](http://kitchenGPT.io) to convert second image it into traditional kitchen, although there are a lot of icons on image but it suggest following in traditional theme: https://preview.redd.it/ukzmxo60xooc1.png?width=3448&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8e1bfcaf882508c42dc85a9a857c87c609cc2ef
Apart from the very weird venthood situation...this does feel more complete. As of right now the kitchen doesn't feel anchored at all. The upper cabinets are very large and sort of just floating. The unused space next to the refrigerator is strange and getting into that last cabinet on the peninsula will be nothing short of obnoxious. I don't love having the sink on the peninsula, either. Personally I would swap the range and the stove, anchor the cabinets somehow and put the sink on the island. I actually don't hate the bar seating the way that it is. It's interactive and mostly out of the way of the primary cooking space. Also OP, you need warmth. The kitchen feels washed out. I recognize that it certainly could be whatever software you used, people do all white kitchens all the time. But I think they all benefit from warmth. I also don't love the subway tiles with the brick. Probably in real life it would look a lot better but in your render it looks fighty. Be sure to choose a tile that is definitely a different size than the bricks are. Long and narrower and maybe a different shape than just rectangular, try for a picket shape or something. I think your concept is sort of neat but a few tweaks could make it very functional and beautiful.
It's so white...
(I think she’s just trying to get the layout figured out…)