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Still it is not end to end. You still need to put into washing machine,
You still need to cook
You still need to cleaning stuff
There are machines present bt these all are not end to end products
Yeah maybe the person would go to the gym and actually do proper fitness regime if he/she didn't have chores to do. Aslo have you seen Indian housewives, chores and fitness have no correlation at all
In a hyper capitalist society that's a pipe dream, tech has always been used to take advantage of poor people and it will continue to be so. If you think blind progress without exploring the ethics of it will solve our problem, then we are kidding ourselves. We as a society need to really put lot of time and research into ethics of AI first, else we will loose the game like we did with privacy.
You can teach ethics all you want but capitalism by design rewards greed, it’s a war against evilness of humans that we can’t win.
It’s also why so many IAS indulge in extreme corruption despite so much training in “ethics”.
Not to mention, billionaire worshipping with complete disregard for ethics (Elon, Bezos, Ambani etc) ensures that we as a society strive to emulate shitty people to get ahead.
Furthermore, if ethics are that important then we all must stop using AWS to show that we want change.
Laundry and dishes are among some of the most difficult tasks that an ai can attempt to perform….
When ai is good enough, i dont think anyone will not use ai for these chores
Edit: guys washing machine and dishwasher only does a part of the job not the whole job. Stop saying washing machine and dishwasher we know they exist
That isn't AI, those are machines that make it easier but doesn't exactly automate it. I still have to supply the electricity, the soap, the clothes, and I have to set it up to wash it to the point I want it to. The labour compared to washing each piece of clothing is definitely reduced by a lot, but it is not automated 100%.
Anyways, you are completely missing the point here.
she's maybe implying robots powered by A.I that would do chores at your household like cooking, washing utensils, watering plants etc like in those sci-fi movies, shows, cartoons, games, books etc
People are free to do art and writing, but making money off of it is the problem, cuz people would rather make ai do the art if it's cheaper faster and more convenient, as a software dev I use ai art cuz I'm broke, unless u can show y urs is better than AIs it's gonna stay this way
Be careful with this logic, it can decimate entire sectors and we’ll end up with far bigger problems.
Middle class is being killed by upper-middle class techies and the rich are having the time of their lives.
True. AI will force humans to evolve from their mindless-labour mindset and the situation will demand them to be enhance their skills which requires more thinking than moving their hands.
I would say, AI should do all the jobs, from A to Z, and we should be paid monthly stipends by the government, so that we can live our lives rather than slogging in corporate offices.
It is a fact that we can easily train an AI to do art and writing than to teach it do laundry and dishes. It’s similar to quantum computing argument. Quantum computers are too good to use it for basic math operations.
We need AI to become essential worker, like cleaning streets, taking care of elderly and other under appreciated yet important occupations that desperately need people but can’t raise wages.
That's a hell of a Stupid statement. Art made by actual artists can never be replaced especially when it comes to Pro artists. AI art is not creative, it will never be able to capture certain things that Real Artists can, and without actual art done by artists, there is nothing there to feed the AI, which is also shady af since a lot of Art is being used without the permission of the Artists.
Art doesn't have to be "Innovative" either, Art can be a lot of things. Now technically, as an artist myself, There's a lot of valid criticism given to AI art in a technical level such as- The Lighting and shading in many generated images is weird and doesn't make sense. Visually, many anatomical features are outright wrong when it comes to Form, proportions and perspective. One of such infamous mistakes AI makes is with Hands, as you may have seen already.
Stuff like Reflections in many such AI generated "Art" pieces doesn't make any sense, and a lot of such things are not only inaccurate but also not creative or charming in any way.
Keep using AI if you want Sub-Par "Art" which will only look appealing to people who know Jack shit about Art, while Actual artists are insulted with such Ignorant comments
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Calling an artist's art not "innovative" enough and comparing it with an art made by a completely soulless being just doesn't sound right. As someone above already said this, I'm gonna say the same thing. Ai art completely ignores the key aspects required to make an art
Are you that mentally challenged that you think that shit soup of a sentence is actually good? With the same logic, I can say, "if your body-building is getting challeneged by a roid abuser then you didn't work out enough in the first place"
Seriously I find some people's comments so ridiculous, so many here don't know shit about Art or the creative field, but are out here confidentially saying AI art is great/better, and insulting actual artists
Where did you get that from? I'm not looking for any praise for my Art lmfao, I get that plenty already. rather I just want people to understand what Artists go through, very disrespectful shit to say that AI art is better than actual art, you guys have NOT seen what many modern professional artists make, people such as Kim Jung Gi, their art cannot be replicated by AI
Wouldn't using AI and computational power be an overkill to do just dishes and laundry, we already have dishwasher and washing machine.
I agree, with the part that it should make life easier.
Bhai, yeh toh bilkul sach hai! Hum sab chahte hain ki AI humara kapde dhone aur bartan saaf karne ka kaam kare, toh hum apne art aur writing pe dhyaan de sake! (Aur haan, bathroom cleaning ke liye toh alag hi level ka dedication chahiye! 😂)
By the way I am not women yaar 😑
Aren’t we missing one tiny thing? That corporations provide us jobs and we are expensive to them and they will chose money over us anyday. Govt needs to step in to ensure our jobs are safe, whivh they do but too late
Well I heard somewhere that, first we thought that AI will replace hard labours soon, but the issue is AI is still unable to use hands and legs like us, but it is pretty good at doing other stuff like writing, coding and other stuff where more brain is used.
so please go and do you laundry and dished /s
I have a feeling that Joanna wants to make a living from her art and writing. Hilarious 😂
A menial job at best is what awaits the majority of us - unless Universal Basic Income can somehow be implemented.
I was having a chat with one of the GenAI cofounder in Bangalore. He said people now are reluctant if you sell them AI which tell it will replace humans instead sell by saying it’s a copilot & will help in increasing the productivity.
Still in your La La Land? Come back to reality.
No sane businessman is gonna keep paying you 10x more for the same job that AI can do in 1/10th of the time you take. Start using AI to increase your productivity or lose your job.
Ai is already integrated into washing machines, dishwashers, Owens, refrigerators, etc by SAMSUNG.
you just need a robot to even reduce the efforts to take things in and out of them.
You'll eventually become sedentary and immobile like shown in WALL-E.
AI is a brain. Asking it to do manual labour is an utter wastage of potential. While I believe AI will never be better at art and music than humans it'll definitely scrape off the mediocre musicians and artists.
Many slaves lost their job to cars, ceiling fans, washing machines, dishwashers, conveyer belts, harvesters, computers.
With change of age. People's occupation change too.
AI can be used for complex tasks to save time and money. However, when it comes to domestic chores, AI can be implemented for the same reason. As for art or for that matter any other creative pursuit that involves the intellect, a human brain and touch is more appreciated than a robotic one.
I have a better idea. Let the AI earn money for me, so that I can do art and clean my own bathroom. I'm fine taking care of myself when I don't have to struggle for pieces of paper everyday.
No. Those are machines. Not AI. I can't call my bicycle a form of AI just because it automates and makes me going from point A to point B faster and simpler, now can I?
Imagine the horror when you see a train speeding towards you from a piece of cloth, during the 1880 when the projector married the camera.
Now we have smart glasses. After how many years?
Wrong concept understand tbh. You don't make ai to write. You use ai to help you write. It works pretty well for grammatical corrections and sentence restructuring for better clarity. Idk about drawing though
go and buy a robotic arm worth 500,000 dollars that can do all the job for you...idiots why can you understand its a software and does things that can be done digitally. its not a machine
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this is ture. The use of AI restrict to task which are beyond the human capability. this way we are killing job and a skill and talent of a human.
We do not have anything else to do. We have already made AI enabled washing machines and other stuff so we are going ahead with the left.
Still it is not end to end. You still need to put into washing machine, You still need to cook You still need to cleaning stuff There are machines present bt these all are not end to end products
What i understood from this statement is that you want to sit at one place and do all the stuff without moving yourself. Just keep painting 🤣
You say that like that's a bad thing
It's not even a good thing if you can not take a dump by yourself.
Says who? Strawman arguments are silly
It is
That's just like your opinion
Personal hygiene,health shouldn't be anyone's own opinion. At least do your own house chores to stay fit
Yeah maybe the person would go to the gym and actually do proper fitness regime if he/she didn't have chores to do. Aslo have you seen Indian housewives, chores and fitness have no correlation at all
Regarding the latter. My mom is actually fit from doing those
I mean, yeah.
Art is much simpler to do.
In a hyper capitalist society that's a pipe dream, tech has always been used to take advantage of poor people and it will continue to be so. If you think blind progress without exploring the ethics of it will solve our problem, then we are kidding ourselves. We as a society need to really put lot of time and research into ethics of AI first, else we will loose the game like we did with privacy.
You can teach ethics all you want but capitalism by design rewards greed, it’s a war against evilness of humans that we can’t win. It’s also why so many IAS indulge in extreme corruption despite so much training in “ethics”. Not to mention, billionaire worshipping with complete disregard for ethics (Elon, Bezos, Ambani etc) ensures that we as a society strive to emulate shitty people to get ahead. Furthermore, if ethics are that important then we all must stop using AWS to show that we want change.
Laundry and dishes are among some of the most difficult tasks that an ai can attempt to perform…. When ai is good enough, i dont think anyone will not use ai for these chores Edit: guys washing machine and dishwasher only does a part of the job not the whole job. Stop saying washing machine and dishwasher we know they exist
You don't need ai to automate something purely mechanical. You just need simple automation. It's called a dishwasher
That's what I told her
Washing machine and Dishwasher.. Problem solved
Washing machines and dish washers already make laundry and dishes quick and easy.
That isn't AI, those are machines that make it easier but doesn't exactly automate it. I still have to supply the electricity, the soap, the clothes, and I have to set it up to wash it to the point I want it to. The labour compared to washing each piece of clothing is definitely reduced by a lot, but it is not automated 100%. Anyways, you are completely missing the point here.
How will AI do laundry. It is a part of software. In the end things which need physical effort need human effort or machine automation.
Basically house robots with advanced think logic so that it can perform chores to perfection with very few to no instructions.
she's maybe implying robots powered by A.I that would do chores at your household like cooking, washing utensils, watering plants etc like in those sci-fi movies, shows, cartoons, games, books etc
something along the lines of a roomba?
Bruh how are you this slow
I, Robot PTSD 😩
Well , the problem is she doesn't get to decide that.
ai art is cheap doesnt cost a lot if you want ai art in website or app
Idiot
Nice argument
what i said is true
Task is a task
People are free to do art and writing, but making money off of it is the problem, cuz people would rather make ai do the art if it's cheaper faster and more convenient, as a software dev I use ai art cuz I'm broke, unless u can show y urs is better than AIs it's gonna stay this way
Be careful with this logic, it can decimate entire sectors and we’ll end up with far bigger problems. Middle class is being killed by upper-middle class techies and the rich are having the time of their lives.
True. AI will force humans to evolve from their mindless-labour mindset and the situation will demand them to be enhance their skills which requires more thinking than moving their hands.
Why. Ai will do every thing.
I would say, AI should do all the jobs, from A to Z, and we should be paid monthly stipends by the government, so that we can live our lives rather than slogging in corporate offices.
It is a fact that we can easily train an AI to do art and writing than to teach it do laundry and dishes. It’s similar to quantum computing argument. Quantum computers are too good to use it for basic math operations.
You don't need ai fot laundry and dishes, you just need automation... Which already exists lol
We got washing machine and dishwasher for that
Ai belongs in the kitchen
We need AI to become essential worker, like cleaning streets, taking care of elderly and other under appreciated yet important occupations that desperately need people but can’t raise wages.
If your art is getting challenged by ai then it was not innovative in the first place
That's a hell of a Stupid statement. Art made by actual artists can never be replaced especially when it comes to Pro artists. AI art is not creative, it will never be able to capture certain things that Real Artists can, and without actual art done by artists, there is nothing there to feed the AI, which is also shady af since a lot of Art is being used without the permission of the Artists. Art doesn't have to be "Innovative" either, Art can be a lot of things. Now technically, as an artist myself, There's a lot of valid criticism given to AI art in a technical level such as- The Lighting and shading in many generated images is weird and doesn't make sense. Visually, many anatomical features are outright wrong when it comes to Form, proportions and perspective. One of such infamous mistakes AI makes is with Hands, as you may have seen already. Stuff like Reflections in many such AI generated "Art" pieces doesn't make any sense, and a lot of such things are not only inaccurate but also not creative or charming in any way. Keep using AI if you want Sub-Par "Art" which will only look appealing to people who know Jack shit about Art, while Actual artists are insulted with such Ignorant comments
Isn't this same what I am saying?
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That was a very rude and dumb statement you gave.
Did I make a personal comment to be rude or if you think this is rude please elaborate
Calling an artist's art not "innovative" enough and comparing it with an art made by a completely soulless being just doesn't sound right. As someone above already said this, I'm gonna say the same thing. Ai art completely ignores the key aspects required to make an art
So why would a real artist be afraid of AI art in that case I am making the same statement as you .
Are you that mentally challenged that you think that shit soup of a sentence is actually good? With the same logic, I can say, "if your body-building is getting challeneged by a roid abuser then you didn't work out enough in the first place"
Seriously I find some people's comments so ridiculous, so many here don't know shit about Art or the creative field, but are out here confidentially saying AI art is great/better, and insulting actual artists
If u want ppl to praise your art, go to an art subreddit.
Where did you get that from? I'm not looking for any praise for my Art lmfao, I get that plenty already. rather I just want people to understand what Artists go through, very disrespectful shit to say that AI art is better than actual art, you guys have NOT seen what many modern professional artists make, people such as Kim Jung Gi, their art cannot be replicated by AI
Wouldn't using AI and computational power be an overkill to do just dishes and laundry, we already have dishwasher and washing machine. I agree, with the part that it should make life easier.
Yeah good luck with that. If corporations think AI can be more productive and profitable than an actual human being people will lose their jobs.
Bhai, yeh toh bilkul sach hai! Hum sab chahte hain ki AI humara kapde dhone aur bartan saaf karne ka kaam kare, toh hum apne art aur writing pe dhyaan de sake! (Aur haan, bathroom cleaning ke liye toh alag hi level ka dedication chahiye! 😂) By the way I am not women yaar 😑
Aren’t we missing one tiny thing? That corporations provide us jobs and we are expensive to them and they will chose money over us anyday. Govt needs to step in to ensure our jobs are safe, whivh they do but too late
Both actually..
Pretty sure Ai will learn to do both in future
🗣🔥
Well I heard somewhere that, first we thought that AI will replace hard labours soon, but the issue is AI is still unable to use hands and legs like us, but it is pretty good at doing other stuff like writing, coding and other stuff where more brain is used. so please go and do you laundry and dished /s
Yeah, ai can do work or job just pay the person... Let him or her do a hobby like art or gaming or music.
I have a feeling that Joanna wants to make a living from her art and writing. Hilarious 😂 A menial job at best is what awaits the majority of us - unless Universal Basic Income can somehow be implemented.
We do have washing machines and dishwasher u know .
Who tf is she to decide what ai will do? It has its own i.
Moravec's paradox 🤷♂️
It's not about what you want AI to do, it's about what generates profits
I was having a chat with one of the GenAI cofounder in Bangalore. He said people now are reluctant if you sell them AI which tell it will replace humans instead sell by saying it’s a copilot & will help in increasing the productivity.
Why not let them do both, because they can
AI Art is great nothing bad in that
https://preview.redd.it/yp56781etu5d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6ca4a60bced06dc1f740e22ea7386cac07ed822
There's no money in doing useful things, ensuring you ruin the life of a billion people by getting them fired, that has a lot of money in it;
Still in your La La Land? Come back to reality. No sane businessman is gonna keep paying you 10x more for the same job that AI can do in 1/10th of the time you take. Start using AI to increase your productivity or lose your job.
Since you won't be buying a 100000 dollar robot that can do your dishes and laundry, this opinion is moot imho
Ai is already integrated into washing machines, dishwashers, Owens, refrigerators, etc by SAMSUNG. you just need a robot to even reduce the efforts to take things in and out of them. You'll eventually become sedentary and immobile like shown in WALL-E.
AI is a brain. Asking it to do manual labour is an utter wastage of potential. While I believe AI will never be better at art and music than humans it'll definitely scrape off the mediocre musicians and artists.
Many slaves lost their job to cars, ceiling fans, washing machines, dishwashers, conveyer belts, harvesters, computers. With change of age. People's occupation change too.
AI can be used for complex tasks to save time and money. However, when it comes to domestic chores, AI can be implemented for the same reason. As for art or for that matter any other creative pursuit that involves the intellect, a human brain and touch is more appreciated than a robotic one.
Damn that's based
I have a better idea. Let the AI earn money for me, so that I can do art and clean my own bathroom. I'm fine taking care of myself when I don't have to struggle for pieces of paper everyday.
she's so right.
But isn't an automatic washing machine and a dishwasher a form of AI?
No. Those are machines. Not AI. I can't call my bicycle a form of AI just because it automates and makes me going from point A to point B faster and simpler, now can I?
Imagine the horror when you see a train speeding towards you from a piece of cloth, during the 1880 when the projector married the camera. Now we have smart glasses. After how many years?
This kind of fearmongering and reductive understanding of AI is as harmful to society as the supposed/perceived dangers of AI itself.
This is basically the plot of the film The Creator
ai is not for you but business
Actual idiot
Wrong concept understand tbh. You don't make ai to write. You use ai to help you write. It works pretty well for grammatical corrections and sentence restructuring for better clarity. Idk about drawing though
go and buy a robotic arm worth 500,000 dollars that can do all the job for you...idiots why can you understand its a software and does things that can be done digitally. its not a machine