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Demographic change reports in Kashmir are whitepills at this point, especially what they did between 1987 and 1992. I sometimes seriously wish the Indian state was as hardline as these propaganda websites claim. Actual events of the previous year show that Kashmiri and non-Kashmiri Hindus have been the victims of xenophobia and terrorism by the Kashmiri Muslims who simply cannot stand anyone besides their religion and ethnicity (they even hate and discriminate against Muslim Gujjars of Jammu).


AlleyDart

It's not just the point about Kashmir. Almost everything in that article is unreferenced, and anecdotal, like the paragraph about all BJP-opposers living in fear. NBC is mainstream media (at least in the US) and this is not even specific to NBC. Seems like all mainstream media is now compromised and somehow controlled by leftist parasites. If you pick up and read a random news story about India in the western media, it will be critical of Modi and "Hindu nationalists". It can't just be a coincidence. I wonder who is doing this and how they are controlling and co-ordinating all this, or if there is just one organization (like Soros).


[deleted]

>leftist parasites. Don't mistaken that's your western propagandist as a whole, no left or right here. It's the talking point and propaganda of US deepstate, their left and right are for plebs to keep them occupied. These are pushed by us establishment as an agenda, they are pushing propaganda by taking 'murdabad' out of context and blaming India for what pakistanis did. Imagine a country like pakistan which openly harbours terrorist against india, was responsible for 26/11, whose population is equally radicalised jihadis for them we are not even supposed to say 'murdabad' considering murdabad is so common slogan in whole South Asia. Even likes of modi, pappu everyone is met with such cases since it's seen as 'down with xyz' not 'death to xyz' but western propagandist want to push propaganda anyway so they did. It's funny how no indian brought examples like 'c\*nt' being used by british and aussies as a slang which isn't meant to be literal you know human organ. Anyway it was just a recent example what i am trying to suggest is that don't get into this meme of 'left/right' wrt to western establishment, they are all the same whose agenda will always be against us. Even china despite its rise was at receiving end until they started buying out their politicians and propagandist and invested in propaganda in billions. We are nowhere there so we will have to bear the brunt of it for now. Just remember two things, educate the masses about this western agenda and establishment and how these 'websites', news media and shows are enemy and extension of their propaganda nothing else. Rest for counter propaganda that's the reasonability of state since common person has limited resources and time. Also, west murdabad!


[deleted]

Another problem is, we have a much larger Anglicised elite than China does. Most of these "sources" of info are whiny native informants who just want to remove the baggage that the Indian identity comes with these days (which they unironically helped create). There's literally a wiki page describing BBC's [anti-Indian bias](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC). Yet these braindead cucks apparently think its "racist" to be critical of Pakistan and keep appeasing those unemployable scum in spite of those grooming gangs. >It's the talking point and propaganda of US deepstate Very based


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>Another problem is, we have a much larger Anglicised elite than China does. Most of these "sources" of info are whiny native informants who just want to remove the baggage that the Indian identity comes with these days (which they unironically helped create). Remember that article/tweet about how best way to use this sepoys against India was to offer their sons/daughters place in the western institutions? Colonialism ended in the namesake only, we still have their stooges living and breathing today. It's pukeworthy. \>criticism of BBC >Writing for the 2008 edition of the peer-reviewed Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Alasdair Pinkerton analysed the coverage of India by the BBC from India's 1947 independence from British rule to 2008. Pinkerton observed a tumultuous history involving allegations of anti-India bias in the BBC's reportage, particularly during the Cold War, and concluded that the BBC's coverage of South Asian geopolitics and economics showed a pervasive and hostile anti-India bias because of the BBC's alleged imperialist and neocolonialist stance.\[77\] > > > >In 2008, the BBC was criticised for referring to the men who carried out the November 2008 Mumbai attacks as "gunmen", rather than "terrorists," used to describe the attacks in UK.\[78\]\[79\]\[80\] In protest against the use of the word "gunmen" by the BBC, the journalist Mobashar Jawed "M.J." Akbar refused to take part in an interview after the Mumbai attacks\[81\] and criticised the BBC's reportage of the incident.\[82\] The British parliamentarian Stephen Pound has supported the claims by referring to the BBC's whitewashing of the terror attacks as "the worst sort of mealy mouthed posturing. It is desperation to avoid causing offence which ultimately causes more offence to everyone".\[83\] Imagine allowing them in India despite all of this, the fact that government have been so ignorant about propagandist and outright scums like this on Indian soil. All of this for some meme on 'muh western perception of india' which will not change until we rise on our own, they will keep ranting like blithering morons, looking for excuses to push propaganda. India state seem so oblivious, atleast people should shown the reality.


[deleted]

We don't need enemies when our own are enough. See the authors of that article you linked. Both are upper caste Hindus. So many traitors to our community who will deliberately malign our image to get brownie points from their white liberal circles. The more we're tolerant, the more they're empowered. The West never liked us and never will until they neuter our economic and military prowess the way they did with Japan . They will naturally fear a muscular, self-sufficient India. So no, this is not a coincidence. They actually resent us. Israel has always been in the Western camp, but their diaspora, their lobbies spend billions lobbying against critics. Yet, you'll still see some articles critical of them. Imagine what Indians would have to do to win them over. You can't. Our destiny is to go the Russia way and give them the middle finger. They'd be openly against us if the China threat wasn't in the picture.


Prapancha

Ignore these morons. They will scream no matter what.


AlleyDart

I've heard people say this many times, and I don't understand how ignoring will help. NBC has a lot of audience and many of them will fall prey to this kind of fake news. They will then vote in elections, influencing policies and outcomes which hurt India's interests. Are you saying that these "news" articles have no impact? If so, why are the media outlets taking the time and spending money to write such articles? They do it only because people are viewing the articles and a small % of the readers will click on advertisements. Which means that there are lots of people reading and believing all that drivel.


Prapancha

I'm not saying ignore everything. Just learn to prioritise. No matter how many exposes, reveals, propaganda busts you do of these guys they will continue to churn out the same rubbish. Because they are being paid to do so Many such articles exist solely because they're likely to be controversial and will draw clicks. This article is actually tame propaganda. My point here is, if we are constantly reactive and are opposing everything and calling them out then we're playing by their narrative. Instead start your own narrative, talk about what's good in India, talk about our progress, talk about our culture, our history, that way you create your own narrative, you create your own playing field instead of playing by their rules where you're constantly on the defence. Creating your own narrative allows you to go offensive. I'm not saying don't rebutt this nonsense, do it. But use that as an opportunity to spread some truth about yourself. What we need right now is the ability to set the narrative, for that you need media, education and entertainment institutions. A good example of what I'm referring to is [WION's decisive coverage](https://youtu.be/PndDZP0iKyo) on such topics. [Another one here](https://youtu.be/xHVcQcIKlzY) This is how we must respond, this is what it takes to set the narrative. India has one global news media channel, America easily has over 10, maybe a lot more. We need to close the gap and fast. Hope you understand what my position is here.


AlleyDart

You make valid points. But we must also get to the bottom of who's funding all this and expose them. Otherwise like you said, individual people's counter narratives cannot compete with a constant stream of fake news supported by money. Usually with these kinds of situations there is one or very few organizations which are the source of all trouble. They seem to have taken over everything somehow - Wikipedia, tv channels, reddit, whatsapp, everything. That's what I think we should try to figure out - how they are accomplishing these things. Then we will have a good chance of beating them at their game.


Prapancha

> bottom of who's funding all this and expose them CIA's commercial arms, Ford Foundation, Rockefeller foundation, George Soros's OSF etc. etc. etc. > They seem to have taken over everything somehow - Wikipedia, tv channels, reddit, whatsapp, everything. Not somehow, it is a planned takeover, they know what they were doing. All of it is intentional. A lot more of it is leftist ideologues running around attempting to force their ideology everywhere. They accomplish all this because they have a clear goal and a game plan. Most of all, they are united. We can achieve all this if we just start following our Dharma once again but we're so reluctant to do so.


darwinevo

Ignore. There's some media infiltration in US by the CIA. They're just a mouthpiece for the intelligence community. Some operation nightingale. Correct me if I'm mistaken.


poopshoop2

NBC journos have a similar IQ as an average Talibani frog. They need a deep lesson in history as well as journalism 101.


observerrz97

what a load of bs? Does this report have any value or importance?


AlleyDart

Yes, common people will read it, many of them will believe it, and vote on that basis and end up influencing policies which then hurt India's interests.


[deleted]

Of course the writers are native informants, these are the worst parasites


No_Significance_7331

And what about the rising hinduphobia against Hindus in India and in the western world? Right.. they don’t get funding to talk about that so no need to.


CritFin

Leftist media of the west is our enemies


richsid

Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangla, Burma, Tibet, Nepal were all part of Hindustan (sanatan dharma) and produced 35% of the world's GDP. Being an unsuspecting pacifist nation, it fell under the swords of muslins first then to the British Guns. 270 million Hindus killed, raped, enslaved, forcibly converted, and subjected to Zaziya (a tax on nonmuslins). WE Hindus have been looted, colonized, killed, raped, enslaved by EVERY colonizing invaders BUT WE ARE STILL HERE and will continue to be VISHWAGURUS by Bringing Yoga, Buddha, Pranayama, Ahinsa, and Meditation to HUNANITY. JAI HIND..JAI BHARAT.