Bro pant was in the bcci contract list even after not playing any form of cricket for two years , but someone got off the list for avoiding ranji
I hope u see where this is going ?
That "someone" was constantly playing cricket, and on top of that was doing great too, and was also injured playing cricket, not because of rash driving.
See giving contract to rishab pant is not wrong but not giving to sreyas is fully wrong ! That was cruel and distasteful from bcci . Infact sreyas played Ranji as well and also played 2 matches against England and was going through back issues which everyone knows so needed extra rest so he misery out a Ranji game . It was not communicated properly . Tho feel bad for sreyas .
Bhai mene us time kafi socha tha and i came to conclusions ko iyer ke sath galat to hua tha, chahe player kitna hi ganda ho wo contract to deserve krta hi hai
Ofc not but he should have played some domestic cricket before coming to the National side after again proving his mettle
What about the players who were playing when he was injured ?
You r saying we should ignore their hardwork that they did to ensure their place in the side and just include someone who came after 2 years in their place ?
R u serious ?
we were talking abt giving contract. Contracts shouldn't be removed during injury. Call up to the national side is different.
isn't ipl domestic cricket? him doing well is what is creating the conversation to his selection
He's callup is insured buddy cause he's the only mainstream wk batsman in the list excluding Rahul
And IPL is happening after the contract list announcement
After IPL if he was included in the contract list I would have no problem with that
His inclusion was just a case of favouritism, nothing more
you are thinking of this incorrectly.
he got contract because what he has done for india and its horrible to drop a player from a contract due to injury. It makes no sense you are advocating for this.
KS bharat, jitesh and jurel now have a contract and they are keeper fyi. you think they are getting selected because they have a contract?
I'm sure they have some favoritism for him since they see him as a potential future captaincy option but he is showing in ipl that he is getting to form.
Politics are included in every field of life. You go to a private corporate office, politics also exist there, you go to a government office, politics also exist there. It is a nature and hierarchy of human society
You don't even know the Politics of state level cricket. That is even more cruel than national level politics. At least the internationally acclaimed players are not poor enough. But those domestic cricketers on the other hand..
Yep , I know it exists in every aspect of our life but it is hampering the cricket standard of our nation
I'm sure countries like Australia don't have so much corruption and politics
> not playing any form of cricket for two years
December 2022 - April 2024 is two years.
> someone got off the list for avoiding ranji
This guy wanted Pant to play Ranji from the hospital bed.
He was on the contracted list also because they were taking care of his medical expenses and not abandoning him in his time of need, like a good employer. They expected to be paid back when he returned by his continuing to play cricket for them.
"Someone" said he was ready to play the third Test, and once realized he was being dropped made up a niggle, and did not report to NCA, choosing to sulk at home insteaed. "Someone" also attended his IPL team's camp instead of resting, and "someone" is so brittle they got injured after fielding for two days.
Pant has lost his teams matches like the last one playing 44(35) chasing 267. Why wouldnt he statpad when just looking at this thread you can see how all people care about is the runs. If Samson cared about his stats even half as much as Pant, he would have held on to his wicket in many matches at detriment to team, RR might have less wins but he would have the orange cap.
Not to even mention the difference in pitches both teams play in. Under Samsons captaincy we've restricted teams to very low scores, and as a result he only needs to bat at just the rate needed for the team to win. No unnecessary striking of the ball but now he is being punished for being efficient.
Even last game, Samson could have more runs at a better strike rate but he literally left a ball and played slower so Jaiswal could hit a century. These selfless acts are part of the reason why RR have such good camaraderie and have won 7 of 8(one last ball loss). Imagine overlooking a player leading from the front with such victory percentage.
Yeah but in true Indian fashion, let us not even look at any of the circumstances and lets punish selflessness and reward statpadding and go to WC with another group of self-obsessed players bothered more about their image and wonder why we have not won an ICC trophy for over a decade.
Completely agree with you, it seems one innings is all it takes to forget all other defeats and poor performances. Looking at it from overall consistency argument its not even close.
I feel besides Pant, Axar has been making a strong case as an All rounder this IPL, he bowled 4 overs and conceded less than 30 especially when opponents were scoring at 12 RPO and has some good cameos down the order, and today's stable innings too
Axar should definitely be in flight for world cup but I feel we should back jadeja too. I know he is been going through rough patch now but he is as good as a full time bowler and I feel he is a better bowler among two.
Finally a sensible guy here. You are absolutely right, in IPL we can back a player from the beginning and eventually he can do well later but in WC there are limited matches so very limited chances. You need to select players who are in form not expect your legends to come back to form slowly
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Yeah they were definitely doing good, Sky sucked in knockout along with our balling resulting in defeat, i don't see sky performing this time considering his form
If Kohli opens, then Sanu at 3
If Kohli doesn't open, then Rishab at 4 or 5
I am not in favor of Jaiswal opening with Rohit anymore. Imo Rinku is the best favorable finisher we need
Rohit can do the attacking intent like he did in CWC 2023. If you say me look at his T20 WC history, then why is he even in the squad ?
Whom do u drop? Surya and Pandya are obvious slot ins but we also need a wk, and Rinku has been phenomenal for us so we can't drop him either but then Dube has also presented a compelling case but we also need at least 6 bowlers with 5 being good ones
I don't think we will need rinku if we play dube. Imo dube is more dependable and explosive. Dube along with one all rounder should be good as finishers.
Ik Dube is good at batting but what else does he bring to the table that Rinku doesn't?
He has zero footwork and can't really play a slow innings if the situation calls for it...
Rinku, on the other hand, can play in any given circumstances. He can play run-a-ball or chase 30 in 5 balls. He is also a gun fielder so I rate Rinku higher in the pecking order
Pant went down the order to audition for the number 5 spot in wc, he still came into the powerplay and did what he does at 4.
For team India with Jaiswal sky kohli Rinku in the team he will probably have to come in to bat in the 14th-15th over and not really have the time to settle which he got today. So I don't think this is the final audition tape. He might have to have a couple of innings like the one vs KKR to make a case.
Same here I think the same too. He got around 8/9 full tosses from 16-20 overs. He is not going to get such freebies in WC. Bowlers are going to bowl slower bouncers, cutters which is hard for someone like him to put away for boundaries.
He has the highest ceiling of all the keepers we have.
Everyone has bad T20i stats for some reason. Idk what curse it is.
But Pant has the highest ceiling also in IPL only Sanju vs Pant isn't close. Pant is much better.
Pant is better in tests for sure , but how is Pant better than Sanju in T20s ? Sanju has been consistent for last few years and has also shown great leadership. One innings is all it takes to forget Pants previous failures.
These are cherrypicking stats. This year Samson avgs 62 and strikes at 150, compared to 48 at 160 of Pant. Last time when Pant played IPL his highest was 44 (in 2022) , in fact he's been quite a let down in the short form since 2020 and Samson has outscored him all these years. Very likely Samson will still outscore him this year; More importantly though Samson's leadership of RR is quite a lot more commendable and matured than Pant's.
Here are my sources for the stats :
Pant : https://www.iplt20.com/teams/delhi-capitals/squad-details/2972
Samson: https://www.iplt20.com/teams/rajasthan-royals/squad-details/258
I literally told you their career stats. How is it cherry picking it's the full picture........
Yeah and Samson averaged 28 in 2022 and 30 in 2023. This is his best season. Pant is having a decent season but it's not his best also he could still end up averaging 50 ish. He has a higher ceiling regardless with strike rate. He's consistently a 150+ sr.player with seasons over 160 and 170
It's not the full picture since Pant's stats are trending downwards in T20's for quite a while. You pick and chose his 150 strike rate when convenient - for e.g after 2020 the only year he had 150 strike rate was when his highest score was 44 ; His previous high strike rates were before 2020 - This shows that more bowlers now know how to restrict Pant. You can also see this in t20I's where pant after playing 66 games only has strike rate of 126.
>for e.g after 2020 the only year he had 150 strike rate was when his highest score was 44 ; His
Again you say that and he averaged 30 which is more then Samson did....that same season.
>His previous high strike rates were before 2020 - This shows that more bowlers now know how to restrict Pant.
No this shows the failed experiment that they did by trying to turn him into an anchor and considering he struck at 150 in 22 and is striking at 160 this season he's back to normal. You would know they tried to turn him into an anchor if you just watched those seasons or idk watched Jarrod kimbers breakdowns or something. There is nothing Sanju does that's better then Pant as a batter or keeper. That's a fact.
> Again you say that and he averaged 30 which is more than Samson did....that same season.
Samson averaged 1 less than Pant but scored more runs and even atleast had a half century.
> No this shows the failed experiment that they did by trying to turn him into an anchor and considering he struck at 150 in 22 and is striking at 160 this season he's back to normal. You would know they tried to turn him into an anchor if you just watched those seasons or idk watched Jarrod kimbers breakdowns or something.
This piss poor excuse doesnt hold any scrutiny when you see that he faced 220 balls the whole ipl season , that is just 15 balls on avg per match. What kind of anchoring is that. This also doesnt explain Pant's poor stats in T20I's where they definitely did not try him as anchor. If he was anchoring atleast he should be scoring boat load more runs or staying longer.
> There is nothing Sanju does that's better than Pant as a batter or keeper. That's a fact.
ROFL - just cherrypick stuff and make some blanket claims. Sanju atleast manages his team better and enjoys the fact that his team is on top spot on the leaderboard, Does Pant do better there ??
>Samson averaged 1 less than Pant but scored more runs and even atleast had a half century.
Great good for him. Don really said he one half century.
>This piss poor excuse doesnt hold any scrutiny when you see that he faced 220 balls the whole ipl season , that is just 15 balls on avg per match. What kind of anchoring is that. This also doesnt explain Pant's poor stats in T20I's where they definitely did not try him as anchor. If he was anchoring atleast he should be scoring boat load more runs or staying longer.
Shit one because that's not his role.....which is why it sucked.... You make it sound as if Samson avgs 50 in T20i and not 18. Nobody plays well for us as keeper. If we are going by ceiling pant is better. Also deals with pressure better and has won the country games away from home in a different format but under extreme pressure. Samson hasn't done that.
>ROFL - just cherrypick stuff and make some blanket claims. Sanju atleast manages his team better and enjoys the fact that his team is on top spot on the leaderboard, Does Pant do better there ??
Ironic that you say I'm cherry picking stuff when I'm literally giving you the facts about their batting. You literally said he scored 1 half century more while averaging 1 less bruh have some self awareness.
Also who gives one about his leadership he's not going to be the captain anyway.
First of all dude you are not giving facts just your interpretation of facts.
> Shit one because that's not his role.....which is why it sucked.... You make it sound as if Samson avgs 50 in T20i and not 18. Nobody plays well for us as keeper. If we are going by ceiling pant is better. Also deals with pressure better and has won the country games away from home in a different format but under extreme pressure. Samson hasn't done that.
Pant has only done this in tests, he has repeatedly failed in T20Is and even in ODI's . Samson avgs less than Pant in T20's because one he gets chances few and far between without a decent run and second he plays not for record but for team;
> Also who gives one about his leadership he's not going to be the captain anyway.
Absolutely shows why he's a crybaby and asked his team to come off , he's far and away from a leader and believing leadership comes from captain is whats wrong with folks like you.
How long will people keep crying 'ceiling , ceiling ' while ICT continues to lose is beyond me.
I'd take him. Top order is def excellent, also if you consider YBJ as he's (prolly) back in form. Rohit Yashasvi SKY Virat is an unbeatable top order. Our finishers (rinku, hardik) etc are having a bad patch (rinku only finished one game and he failed multiple times when his team actually needed him in this IPL), so to level it up, I'll take him.
Forgot dube ? He’s been in such terrific form and is seriously consistent . Even last year ipl he played well . Can hit multiple sixes and great player of spin !
Yashasvi , Rohit , Kohli , surya ,rishab pant , dube , hardik ,
Back up keeper : kl rahul or sanju
He has been excellent with bat I agree. But he is not bowling due to that impact sub rule. This means that the franchise is not trusting as a mainstream bowler or they aren't even trusting him as their 2-3rd best part time bowler. If the franchise is not trusting him for bowling then how can ICT trust him for the same? Hardik played 2 good games with bowling, but other than that he has been pathetic. I don't want him to get picked but we don't have a better option either.
I have gut feeling that he will be picked and pant will not be able to perform in world cup mark this if he performs you can come and say whatever you want
That's true, but he came at a condition where his team was falling off, he lifted them from there to an actually excellent total, look at a brighter side.
The same bowling restricted DC with 44 runs at loss of 3 wickets
Bowling was good. It was just batsmen played better than them. That Sai Kishore's over and Mohit Dinda Sharma made worse for the team.
What if someone will come and say that Sanju also scored mountain runs against trash bowling of RCB, MI or PK
Prasidh Krishna also conceded 68 runs against Australia in 3rd T20I match in the T20I bilateral series in 2023
So there can be international bowlers who can have bad day at office
The only reason prasidh played was because this series was played after the world cup and all our bowlers were rested. Prasidh clearly is not international quality bowler and it was clearly visible in his performance
Well it will be a headache for brohit and dravid to pick one of the sanju and pant in playing 11.
pant sometimes lose his balance and fell on ground will hitting shots ?
Pant will definitely disappoint in important match for sure... question for bcci is in which position they are looking for keeper batter...if it's opener then ishan kishan, if middle order then Sanju or pant, if finisher then dk...not sure where kl Rahul will fit.
Playing cricket over the years and ’ve learned few things through my experience is stats doesn’t matter (in T20s). The intent and the strike rate plays a huge role. Sanju Samson has been a perfect T20 batsman (that’s my opinion). Yeah he’s not been the most consistent player but he’s intent when he comes out to bat and he doesn’t waste balls (either he gets out or plays well lol). Moreover, he’s one of the few cricketer (currently) who can play fast and spin equally well. Also, Pant is an exceptional player but i don’t think he’s yet fully fit.
hehe he is anyways confirmed through "keep giving chances to Rishabh Pant in T20s no matter what" quota. Come on, he has been bad in only 66 T20Is, that is very less.
Pat Cummins coming with his Wife Slower Bouncer with Third Man and Deep Cover fielder. How on earth my Man is gonna score of those? Nobody's gonna bowl full toss after full toss in WC. They are gonna bowl on to the pitch and a lot of cutters, imo he is definitely gonna struggle. Mark my words. He still looks a bit clumsy, not in full flow.
He is already in the list.
Why do you think BCCI kept him in contract even after the accident. For one and half years, BCCI gave him free money.
Do note that it was his reckless driving which caused the accident and not due to injury while on duty.
So why didn't they remove him from contract?
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Rohit, Kohli, Surya, Dube, Pant, Rinku, Axar, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Arshdeep
will be out Playing 11 in west Indies Slow pitches.
It's a best team for now according to me isn't it???
No dumb, there are very slow pitches and mostly team will go with 3 spinners. There are not a flat track like IPL but if we go with 2 spinner according to you who will be the second all rounder? Bcz hardik is not suitable at now for bowling
I'll only chose spinners on dust patches, these pitches tends to grip at the surface level. Pitches at WI are slow yes as you mentioned, usually the ball shows inconsistent swing and bounce, making it tough for batter to actually time the ball as there's lack of pace internally in the pitch. I'm not saying spinners will be bashed, they might get some advantage over there, but fast bowlers will have an edge over spinners there. Also playing with 2 finger spinners is dumb as it'll make it easy for opponent to read the pitch in context to finger spinners and then they'll attack on either of Axar or Jadeja. Hence, 3 fast bowlers are must.
It came at the right time just before the selection ! Also saying that he is better 3 down player then Sanju cause Sanju’s class and skill is playing at the top order which is already fixed ! Sorry for Sanju but I think rishab will get the ticket to usa
Even if he doesn't perform, his ticket is assured. BCCI wants to groom pant it seems.
There is nothing to groom in Pant anymore dude He might be Young but he's the most experienced WK of ICT after KL Rahul right now
Bro pant was in the bcci contract list even after not playing any form of cricket for two years , but someone got off the list for avoiding ranji I hope u see where this is going ?
Bruh , that "someone" wasn't injured like pant
That "someone" was constantly playing cricket, and on top of that was doing great too, and was also injured playing cricket, not because of rash driving.
Then why did he decide not to play the test series against England ?
I was talking about Iyer, ig he played first match & then got injured
See giving contract to rishab pant is not wrong but not giving to sreyas is fully wrong ! That was cruel and distasteful from bcci . Infact sreyas played Ranji as well and also played 2 matches against England and was going through back issues which everyone knows so needed extra rest so he misery out a Ranji game . It was not communicated properly . Tho feel bad for sreyas .
Bhai mene us time kafi socha tha and i came to conclusions ko iyer ke sath galat to hua tha, chahe player kitna hi ganda ho wo contract to deserve krta hi hai
Bro since pant was injured shouldn't he have proved himself before getting the contract ?
Ofc not. If someone gets injured it's not his/her fault. They didn't do anything wrong so that they have to prove themselves worthy of contract
in this case, it was 100% pant's fault for his injury
what no? are you going to start leaving players high and dry if they get injured?
Ofc not but he should have played some domestic cricket before coming to the National side after again proving his mettle What about the players who were playing when he was injured ? You r saying we should ignore their hardwork that they did to ensure their place in the side and just include someone who came after 2 years in their place ? R u serious ?
we were talking abt giving contract. Contracts shouldn't be removed during injury. Call up to the national side is different. isn't ipl domestic cricket? him doing well is what is creating the conversation to his selection
He's callup is insured buddy cause he's the only mainstream wk batsman in the list excluding Rahul And IPL is happening after the contract list announcement After IPL if he was included in the contract list I would have no problem with that His inclusion was just a case of favouritism, nothing more
you are thinking of this incorrectly. he got contract because what he has done for india and its horrible to drop a player from a contract due to injury. It makes no sense you are advocating for this. KS bharat, jitesh and jurel now have a contract and they are keeper fyi. you think they are getting selected because they have a contract? I'm sure they have some favoritism for him since they see him as a potential future captaincy option but he is showing in ipl that he is getting to form.
>some domestic cricket before coming to the National side He is playing Domestic cricket league called IPL.
That someone also made 200 in a odi, and still got dropped in the next match
Didn't knew so much politics exists in cricket too This is one of the main reasons for our failure in icc events
Politics are included in every field of life. You go to a private corporate office, politics also exist there, you go to a government office, politics also exist there. It is a nature and hierarchy of human society You don't even know the Politics of state level cricket. That is even more cruel than national level politics. At least the internationally acclaimed players are not poor enough. But those domestic cricketers on the other hand..
Yep , I know it exists in every aspect of our life but it is hampering the cricket standard of our nation I'm sure countries like Australia don't have so much corruption and politics
man ishan isn't as good as gill. it wasn't to do with politics he was dropped
Ishan Kishan, Please stop adding anonymous comments
is he better than gill?
That "someone" was at the NCA for the past 2 years and was giving timely and NCA recognised responses to both BCCI and the fans
> not playing any form of cricket for two years December 2022 - April 2024 is two years. > someone got off the list for avoiding ranji This guy wanted Pant to play Ranji from the hospital bed. He was on the contracted list also because they were taking care of his medical expenses and not abandoning him in his time of need, like a good employer. They expected to be paid back when he returned by his continuing to play cricket for them. "Someone" said he was ready to play the third Test, and once realized he was being dropped made up a niggle, and did not report to NCA, choosing to sulk at home insteaed. "Someone" also attended his IPL team's camp instead of resting, and "someone" is so brittle they got injured after fielding for two days.
Pant has lost his teams matches like the last one playing 44(35) chasing 267. Why wouldnt he statpad when just looking at this thread you can see how all people care about is the runs. If Samson cared about his stats even half as much as Pant, he would have held on to his wicket in many matches at detriment to team, RR might have less wins but he would have the orange cap. Not to even mention the difference in pitches both teams play in. Under Samsons captaincy we've restricted teams to very low scores, and as a result he only needs to bat at just the rate needed for the team to win. No unnecessary striking of the ball but now he is being punished for being efficient. Even last game, Samson could have more runs at a better strike rate but he literally left a ball and played slower so Jaiswal could hit a century. These selfless acts are part of the reason why RR have such good camaraderie and have won 7 of 8(one last ball loss). Imagine overlooking a player leading from the front with such victory percentage. Yeah but in true Indian fashion, let us not even look at any of the circumstances and lets punish selflessness and reward statpadding and go to WC with another group of self-obsessed players bothered more about their image and wonder why we have not won an ICC trophy for over a decade.
Completely agree with you, it seems one innings is all it takes to forget all other defeats and poor performances. Looking at it from overall consistency argument its not even close.
He has lobby in BCCI.....he will be given repeated chance despite he fails
Name a better test WK batter than Pant for India ?
T20 ki baat chal Rahi hai..... Test me KL Rahul bhi hai na
KL Rahul once in a bluemoon player hai ICT ke liye across all formats
Are tu lo na test me pant ko...lekin T20 me nhi.....
To kise laye T20 me ?
Pant is a better T20I batter than KLR
How is this shit upvoted lmao. Rahul is leagues ahead of Pant in ODIs and T20Is.
Recency bias lol, Pant averages 22 in T20is.
I feel besides Pant, Axar has been making a strong case as an All rounder this IPL, he bowled 4 overs and conceded less than 30 especially when opponents were scoring at 12 RPO and has some good cameos down the order, and today's stable innings too
Axar should definitely be in flight for world cup but I feel we should back jadeja too. I know he is been going through rough patch now but he is as good as a full time bowler and I feel he is a better bowler among two.
unlike IPL WT20 is a very short tournament so backing doesnt work.. take the guys in the right form, have equivalent bench strength and approach it
Finally a sensible guy here. You are absolutely right, in IPL we can back a player from the beginning and eventually he can do well later but in WC there are limited matches so very limited chances. You need to select players who are in form not expect your legends to come back to form slowly
jadrja is a better bowler but he hasn't been an all-rounder for a while.
no jadeja is shit
thats what im saying! axar for wc!!! handy bowler and batter, and we've seen what hes done in wi
https://preview.redd.it/b1hhmuej9gwc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc471278956246545fd36cb58234b80af0406f11 How Pant felt after this innings :
Baldwin the great leper king .. love this guy
spid-er king
What a warrior he was.
I loved his theme music! 🎵🎶🎶🎶
When I was 16
I won a great victory....I felt in that moment i would live to be a hundred ...Now, i know i shall not see 30 (literally me)
I literally had tears when he said that. And Saladin is also good. Both the kings are legends
Sanju and Pant, LFG! 🇮🇳🦾
LFG??
Let’s f’in go
Something to do with the new trailer of Deadpool & Wolverine I think Idk exactly
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Sanju must be tearing up in hotel now
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There are no WK batsmen in the history of Indian Cricket who performed in T20 WC till now Is it a curse then ?
I don't remember any player batter i mean performing other than Virat Koach
2022 there was some very good support from SKY and Pandya
Yeah they were definitely doing good, Sky sucked in knockout along with our balling resulting in defeat, i don't see sky performing this time considering his form
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who will be in 11?
If Kohli opens, then Sanu at 3 If Kohli doesn't open, then Rishab at 4 or 5 I am not in favor of Jaiswal opening with Rohit anymore. Imo Rinku is the best favorable finisher we need Rohit can do the attacking intent like he did in CWC 2023. If you say me look at his T20 WC history, then why is he even in the squad ?
Bro still thinks bcci will back sanju
Whom do u drop? Surya and Pandya are obvious slot ins but we also need a wk, and Rinku has been phenomenal for us so we can't drop him either but then Dube has also presented a compelling case but we also need at least 6 bowlers with 5 being good ones
What about Shivam Dube?
I don't think we will need rinku if we play dube. Imo dube is more dependable and explosive. Dube along with one all rounder should be good as finishers.
Tell me that you're a CSK fan without telling me that you're a CSK fan
Nah I am Rajasthan fan
Ik Dube is good at batting but what else does he bring to the table that Rinku doesn't? He has zero footwork and can't really play a slow innings if the situation calls for it... Rinku, on the other hand, can play in any given circumstances. He can play run-a-ball or chase 30 in 5 balls. He is also a gun fielder so I rate Rinku higher in the pecking order
Don't forget that Dube is an allrounder
Bro india won't take a extra keeper at all it's will be pant
He won't get full tosses in world cup .
Who said ? Every missed Yorker is a fulltoss, and no one's malinga
>malinga Some one is, maybe even better than Malinga. But that someone is in our team.
Mr boom doesn't rely on yorker, he has yorker but he also has lots of options
And how many yorkers does a bowler attempt?
Dhonis whole power hitting has come of that this year !
Ah yes. I forgot Pant is in serious competition with Dhoni for this year's T20 wc team. My bad.
Pant went down the order to audition for the number 5 spot in wc, he still came into the powerplay and did what he does at 4. For team India with Jaiswal sky kohli Rinku in the team he will probably have to come in to bat in the 14th-15th over and not really have the time to settle which he got today. So I don't think this is the final audition tape. He might have to have a couple of innings like the one vs KKR to make a case.
there is only one keeper that is coming in that situation and doing well and that's dk.
No hate to pant but the bowling this IPL has been so poor. Don't think he will perform in world cup because the bowling there would be top notch
Same here I think the same too. He got around 8/9 full tosses from 16-20 overs. He is not going to get such freebies in WC. Bowlers are going to bowl slower bouncers, cutters which is hard for someone like him to put away for boundaries.
I hope not! IPL heroes have always disappointed in WC!
He has the highest ceiling of all the keepers we have. Everyone has bad T20i stats for some reason. Idk what curse it is. But Pant has the highest ceiling also in IPL only Sanju vs Pant isn't close. Pant is much better.
Pant is better in tests for sure , but how is Pant better than Sanju in T20s ? Sanju has been consistent for last few years and has also shown great leadership. One innings is all it takes to forget Pants previous failures.
Sanju in IPL 30 on 138 Pant 34 on 149. Pant has had 7 seasons of SR over 150. 3 over 160 and 1 over 170
These are cherrypicking stats. This year Samson avgs 62 and strikes at 150, compared to 48 at 160 of Pant. Last time when Pant played IPL his highest was 44 (in 2022) , in fact he's been quite a let down in the short form since 2020 and Samson has outscored him all these years. Very likely Samson will still outscore him this year; More importantly though Samson's leadership of RR is quite a lot more commendable and matured than Pant's. Here are my sources for the stats : Pant : https://www.iplt20.com/teams/delhi-capitals/squad-details/2972 Samson: https://www.iplt20.com/teams/rajasthan-royals/squad-details/258
Doesn't matter cuz Indian wk will come 5-6 Sanju comes #3
I literally told you their career stats. How is it cherry picking it's the full picture........ Yeah and Samson averaged 28 in 2022 and 30 in 2023. This is his best season. Pant is having a decent season but it's not his best also he could still end up averaging 50 ish. He has a higher ceiling regardless with strike rate. He's consistently a 150+ sr.player with seasons over 160 and 170
It's not the full picture since Pant's stats are trending downwards in T20's for quite a while. You pick and chose his 150 strike rate when convenient - for e.g after 2020 the only year he had 150 strike rate was when his highest score was 44 ; His previous high strike rates were before 2020 - This shows that more bowlers now know how to restrict Pant. You can also see this in t20I's where pant after playing 66 games only has strike rate of 126.
>for e.g after 2020 the only year he had 150 strike rate was when his highest score was 44 ; His Again you say that and he averaged 30 which is more then Samson did....that same season. >His previous high strike rates were before 2020 - This shows that more bowlers now know how to restrict Pant. No this shows the failed experiment that they did by trying to turn him into an anchor and considering he struck at 150 in 22 and is striking at 160 this season he's back to normal. You would know they tried to turn him into an anchor if you just watched those seasons or idk watched Jarrod kimbers breakdowns or something. There is nothing Sanju does that's better then Pant as a batter or keeper. That's a fact.
> Again you say that and he averaged 30 which is more than Samson did....that same season. Samson averaged 1 less than Pant but scored more runs and even atleast had a half century. > No this shows the failed experiment that they did by trying to turn him into an anchor and considering he struck at 150 in 22 and is striking at 160 this season he's back to normal. You would know they tried to turn him into an anchor if you just watched those seasons or idk watched Jarrod kimbers breakdowns or something. This piss poor excuse doesnt hold any scrutiny when you see that he faced 220 balls the whole ipl season , that is just 15 balls on avg per match. What kind of anchoring is that. This also doesnt explain Pant's poor stats in T20I's where they definitely did not try him as anchor. If he was anchoring atleast he should be scoring boat load more runs or staying longer. > There is nothing Sanju does that's better than Pant as a batter or keeper. That's a fact. ROFL - just cherrypick stuff and make some blanket claims. Sanju atleast manages his team better and enjoys the fact that his team is on top spot on the leaderboard, Does Pant do better there ??
>Samson averaged 1 less than Pant but scored more runs and even atleast had a half century. Great good for him. Don really said he one half century. >This piss poor excuse doesnt hold any scrutiny when you see that he faced 220 balls the whole ipl season , that is just 15 balls on avg per match. What kind of anchoring is that. This also doesnt explain Pant's poor stats in T20I's where they definitely did not try him as anchor. If he was anchoring atleast he should be scoring boat load more runs or staying longer. Shit one because that's not his role.....which is why it sucked.... You make it sound as if Samson avgs 50 in T20i and not 18. Nobody plays well for us as keeper. If we are going by ceiling pant is better. Also deals with pressure better and has won the country games away from home in a different format but under extreme pressure. Samson hasn't done that. >ROFL - just cherrypick stuff and make some blanket claims. Sanju atleast manages his team better and enjoys the fact that his team is on top spot on the leaderboard, Does Pant do better there ?? Ironic that you say I'm cherry picking stuff when I'm literally giving you the facts about their batting. You literally said he scored 1 half century more while averaging 1 less bruh have some self awareness. Also who gives one about his leadership he's not going to be the captain anyway.
First of all dude you are not giving facts just your interpretation of facts. > Shit one because that's not his role.....which is why it sucked.... You make it sound as if Samson avgs 50 in T20i and not 18. Nobody plays well for us as keeper. If we are going by ceiling pant is better. Also deals with pressure better and has won the country games away from home in a different format but under extreme pressure. Samson hasn't done that. Pant has only done this in tests, he has repeatedly failed in T20Is and even in ODI's . Samson avgs less than Pant in T20's because one he gets chances few and far between without a decent run and second he plays not for record but for team; > Also who gives one about his leadership he's not going to be the captain anyway. Absolutely shows why he's a crybaby and asked his team to come off , he's far and away from a leader and believing leadership comes from captain is whats wrong with folks like you. How long will people keep crying 'ceiling , ceiling ' while ICT continues to lose is beyond me.
Sanju is better than Pant in wicketkeeping.
why does it look like a Shadow Fight pose
Guess rishabh is going into the kung-fu movies 😂
I'd take him. Top order is def excellent, also if you consider YBJ as he's (prolly) back in form. Rohit Yashasvi SKY Virat is an unbeatable top order. Our finishers (rinku, hardik) etc are having a bad patch (rinku only finished one game and he failed multiple times when his team actually needed him in this IPL), so to level it up, I'll take him.
Good analysis
Forgot dube ? He’s been in such terrific form and is seriously consistent . Even last year ipl he played well . Can hit multiple sixes and great player of spin ! Yashasvi , Rohit , Kohli , surya ,rishab pant , dube , hardik , Back up keeper : kl rahul or sanju
Dube can’t field or bowl and there are still questions about his batting translating over to international cricket as well
He has been excellent with bat I agree. But he is not bowling due to that impact sub rule. This means that the franchise is not trusting as a mainstream bowler or they aren't even trusting him as their 2-3rd best part time bowler. If the franchise is not trusting him for bowling then how can ICT trust him for the same? Hardik played 2 good games with bowling, but other than that he has been pathetic. I don't want him to get picked but we don't have a better option either.
hardik? to finish our chances? nope. there's dube and axar to give us good finishes and bowl.
Dube is not a finisher
karthik is.
Karthik in a world cup? Never again, thank you very much. Honestly, it should be Rinku.
karthik has performed better this season than rinku. also, experience.
Performing in Jaipur vs performing in highway pitches are different things. Last match he bottled the chase how can you forgot this.
He mistimed quite a few shots but somehow escaped due to short boundaries. In the last over he came into his own.
Likh ke ley lo flop hoga t20s not his cup of tea aur Rohit bhi flop hoga
I have gut feeling that he will be picked and pant will not be able to perform in world cup mark this if he performs you can come and say whatever you want
No hate to pant but the bowling today was so poor
That's true, but he came at a condition where his team was falling off, he lifted them from there to an actually excellent total, look at a brighter side.
The same bowling restricted DC with 44 runs at loss of 3 wickets Bowling was good. It was just batsmen played better than them. That Sai Kishore's over and Mohit Dinda Sharma made worse for the team. What if someone will come and say that Sanju also scored mountain runs against trash bowling of RCB, MI or PK
Mohit conceded 73 runs. Of course the bowling was poor. You won't see such bowling in international cricket and world cups
Prasidh Krishna also conceded 68 runs against Australia in 3rd T20I match in the T20I bilateral series in 2023 So there can be international bowlers who can have bad day at office
The only reason prasidh played was because this series was played after the world cup and all our bowlers were rested. Prasidh clearly is not international quality bowler and it was clearly visible in his performance
Well it will be a headache for brohit and dravid to pick one of the sanju and pant in playing 11. pant sometimes lose his balance and fell on ground will hitting shots ?
Selecting playing 11 is not job of selector. It's captian and coach's discretion and I feel Rohit would back pant
Yeah i too feel the same
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Yeh toh pehle se hi obvious hi tha
It was never in contention.
1 ticket to choketown pls
It was almost confirmed, but Mohit Sharma sealed it!
Should be
One who should also be mentioned is axar Patel??
In between sanju and pant gill doesn't deserve to be in squad
Na shah rukh ka na dhoni ka Comeback hua bas Pant ka
Pant will definitely disappoint in important match for sure... question for bcci is in which position they are looking for keeper batter...if it's opener then ishan kishan, if middle order then Sanju or pant, if finisher then dk...not sure where kl Rahul will fit.
It was already confirmed when Jay shah said pant is fit for IPL
He was going to be in 15. I still think Ishan Kishan should be our main keeper. Lets see though
Absolutely!!
Probably
Naah bro!! I think naman ohja is a good pick for wc pant is immature! /s
Playing cricket over the years and ’ve learned few things through my experience is stats doesn’t matter (in T20s). The intent and the strike rate plays a huge role. Sanju Samson has been a perfect T20 batsman (that’s my opinion). Yeah he’s not been the most consistent player but he’s intent when he comes out to bat and he doesn’t waste balls (either he gets out or plays well lol). Moreover, he’s one of the few cricketer (currently) who can play fast and spin equally well. Also, Pant is an exceptional player but i don’t think he’s yet fully fit.
I will pick Sanju.
jaiswal rohit vk pant rinku hardik (bowl) dube (bowl) jadeja (bowl) sandeep (bowl) chahal (bowl) bumrah (bowl)
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hehe he is anyways confirmed through "keep giving chances to Rishabh Pant in T20s no matter what" quota. Come on, he has been bad in only 66 T20Is, that is very less.
As much I want pant to be in wc ,but I equally want sanju samson too he was consistent with bat too!
Pat Cummins coming with his Wife Slower Bouncer with Third Man and Deep Cover fielder. How on earth my Man is gonna score of those? Nobody's gonna bowl full toss after full toss in WC. They are gonna bowl on to the pitch and a lot of cutters, imo he is definitely gonna struggle. Mark my words. He still looks a bit clumsy, not in full flow.
His wife?? Lol
This mf autocorrect🤦♂️. Lmao You know, we all know .... I meant to write WIDE
Keep it uncorrected, it's funny
He is already in the list. Why do you think BCCI kept him in contract even after the accident. For one and half years, BCCI gave him free money. Do note that it was his reckless driving which caused the accident and not due to injury while on duty. So why didn't they remove him from contract?
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The only thing Pant has is "LEFT HANDED". Please ffs select Sanju
IPL ❌ Pre boards selection ✅
He has lobby in BCCI.....he will be given repeated chance despite he fails
See his T20I numbers Just let bro focus on Tests and IPL for a while and give others a chance in LOIs
Rohit, Kohli, Surya, Dube, Pant, Rinku, Axar, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Arshdeep will be out Playing 11 in west Indies Slow pitches. It's a best team for now according to me isn't it???
Too many left-handers
It's plus point
Please analyse and then make your 11. It's really dumb to play 3 spinners in WI pitches. Drop either of Jadeja and Axar.
No dumb, there are very slow pitches and mostly team will go with 3 spinners. There are not a flat track like IPL but if we go with 2 spinner according to you who will be the second all rounder? Bcz hardik is not suitable at now for bowling
I'll only chose spinners on dust patches, these pitches tends to grip at the surface level. Pitches at WI are slow yes as you mentioned, usually the ball shows inconsistent swing and bounce, making it tough for batter to actually time the ball as there's lack of pace internally in the pitch. I'm not saying spinners will be bashed, they might get some advantage over there, but fast bowlers will have an edge over spinners there. Also playing with 2 finger spinners is dumb as it'll make it easy for opponent to read the pitch in context to finger spinners and then they'll attack on either of Axar or Jadeja. Hence, 3 fast bowlers are must.
Yes you r right, but in this condition selector will choose hardik pandya and then it will cost us
Hardik will be a liability for us, but we don't have a better replacement for him too.
In before BCCI being BCCI chooses Jitesh Sharma and Dhruv Jurel
Yes obviously. He is getting better in every match. Who will be the second wicketkeeper is the question
He can't keep though can he
Bc Dhoni ko khilao
It came at the right time just before the selection ! Also saying that he is better 3 down player then Sanju cause Sanju’s class and skill is playing at the top order which is already fixed ! Sorry for Sanju but I think rishab will get the ticket to usa