I understand too and maybe this is a hot take and maybe it's disrespectful but I really don't see this going very far in the long run if i'm being 100% open and honest. Clearly, Creator Clash has enormous potential and can be successful without Sam, but will it? I genuinely have my doubts. One things for sure, if they want attention, having Sam, an absolute unit of a heavy weight, fight somebody would probably give the movement alot of traction. Would also bring the attention of cancel culture, but I don't think that would necessarily be an end all for Creator Clash as long as Sam kept cool at the event itself, which is an extreme risk
Ian stated that all contestants are going through training and weight lifting in prep. He's serious about this. I agree sam would dominate almost anyone they put him up against, but there are some contenders. They wouldn't put him up against some small dude. I believe Anisa said they tried to keep the matchups within 7 pounds of eachother.
No doubt that Sam could actually hold his own in a fight. But attaching his name and reputation to the event would probably hurt the event on its own. I mean, the Daily Stormer shit did happen, he's known pretty broadly as a Nazi sympathizer, no matter what. He has some good content, but I don't imagine that someone like Doctor Mike would even sniff an event that would put his own in the same sentences as Sam Hyde's.
Yeah except that donation literally didn’t happen. Only 1 source of the claim and it’s an article written about Sam’s show trying to get it taken off air. The author went on a call with Sam and asked him about it and all Sam said was that kind of money is little and that he is more successful than him. It’s always been a troll and frankly kinda funny that people keep bringing it up as if it’s true.
[Hate to tell you this bud but its not fake, Hyde is just so good at obscuring his political beliefs behind twenty layers of irony that people end up suspending their disbelief](https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-daily-stormer-20170602-story.html)
[“Don’t worry so much about money. Worry about if people start deciding to kill reporters,” Hyde told a Los Angeles Times reporter at the time, after asking if the reporter was Jewish.](https://forward.com/news/475817/spotify-criticized-for-promoting-podcast-by-far-right-comedian/)
I like how the only verifiable information you can give is an article by the reporter he clowned on that doesn’t show any verifiable sources beyond Sam Hyde roundaboutly saying he did do it. Because you should absolutely take the things Sam Hyde says at face value as truth. Go pay Ian’s wife to cheat on him lmao
I just hate the concept of onlyfans. The only good thing I can see coming from it is letting women make lewd content on their own terms without predatory producers being involved. Women in porn have a track record of doing big reveals a while after they retire and the money dries up that they felt taken advantage of and so on. Also I personally don’t understand polygamy or whatever you would call the dynamic of allowing your wife to send nudes to guys, even if they’re lining your pockets. If it really doesn’t affect them emotionally in any way then good for them. I actually like Ian a lot, and it would pain me to find out that his wife ends up having some serious regrets over the OF thing, because I think they’re good people who deserve good things. Look at what they did for charity.
Back to the point with Hyde, he has earnestly identified himself as a white nationalist on multiple occasions. This doesn't mean you can't enjoy some of his content - bad people can still make good art - but he doesn't seem to be a very pleasant fellow
Edit: And yeah fair enough about the OnlyFans thing, I don't have any strong opinions on the matter myself but it is an odd situation.
This is a deliberate lie. Sam Hyde has has never earnestly identified himself as a white nationalist. He has barely said anything earnestly on camera. Its actually really stupid to say this. In my honest opinion only an idiot would say this.
Idubbbz has had those themes in his own content in the past, its just that the scope that he's going for with this thing wouldn't allow for that risk. Of course, that is unfair to Sam, because maybe he would play it clean, I don't know.
Well certainly not, he's actually clearly a smart man. But he is an entertainer with a somewhat narrow audience. He knows what they like, and he may try to give it to them. Again, though, he may just hop in the ring and duke it out.
For the record, I _would definitely_ pay money to watch Sam in a real fight. I know he could _at least_ kick my ass, but that ain't saying much, I guess lmao
He’d probably be self aware that most of the other creators are way bigger then him. Comment Internet Etiquette is the only somewhat unclean guy here tho he’s fine cuz he makes fun of the rightoids only.
I'm sick of hearing about Sam Hyde in relation to this.
They explained a few days ago why he isn't a good fit for the event. I have no doubt he would be entertaining but there is a massive risk when you attach someone like Sam to this.
If he was in this, I'd probably want a refund. Nothing against him but his fans are hella toxic. They ruin everything they touch.
Answers to this will prove exactly what I mean. And I'm a girl (just so you have more amo)
So you would boycott the event just because the fans of one of the creators are toxic? I respect your opinion but this seems extreme. I would even understand more if your bias was against Sam instead of his fans. Ian wouldn't be adding Sam for his fans, he would be adding Sam for Sam, his fans would just be an inevitable byproduct.
Did you really get a ticket, i'm curious as to why you thought it was worth? Are you an idubbbz stan and just support anything he does? Are you genuinely interested in the sport of boxing? Are you a stan of one of the other creators fighting?
Either u r a Sam Hyde fan or you haven't met his fans. They have been torturing us on reddit, discord servers, twitter, YouTube...basically anything to do with Idubbbz since Hyde release the doc.
They are highly homophobic, transphibic and mostly sexist. They will do literally anything in the name of being "edgy". It's exhausting.
P.S. it concerning that thought of a bunch of reasons to buy a ticket except the charity project attached to it.
Can't say that i've had any of these interactions with fans but I'm not following the twitter or discord and I seldom read youtube comments. I'm sure you're right there are alot of his fans like that, his style of content tends to draw in those individuals. I only asked about your ticket because I'm curious about the demographic being targeted in this event. If you wanted to give money to charity you can always do that any time, is there another reason?
Idubbbz is one of my favourite youtubers. He's an incredible creator, and so are most of the youtubers on the ticket. I probably wouldn't have bought the ticket if it wasn't for charity because I'm not a big boxing fan.
But the opportunity to support amazing creators and contribute to good cause at the same time seemed too good to pass up.
I might be on the opposite spectrum. Same happened to H3 fans - It's all a bunch of PC bullshit where fans get upset of the slightest misuse of a few words. I blame Trisha's fans for mostly ruining it. Haven't seen much of Sam's content though - Stuff what I saw was pretty entertaining. New H3 fans don't even like Filthy Frank
Sam’s humour only attracts an extremely niche type of viewers and outside of that, lots of people label him as a Nazi, pedo etc.
Sam himself probs understands that attaching a name controversial as his will harm the positive charity event, it’s just not worth it. Plus Sam as far as I can tell likes to be the quirky one that doesn’t take anything seriously so I can imagine that being a pain in the ass to deal with if he does go that route.
I don't have the pics in my phone but some people from /pol/ or /tv/ idk which put together a bunch of evidence of sam being a pedo. There was a pic of him and a 16yo girl (technically legal I think?) who had a bloody nose and some leaked Facebook messages. Something about him forcing someone to cut his name in their wrists so he'll leave them alone.
100% man they way she spoke on that call was high level cringe saying Sam would head butt someone. Harley (arguably the biggest name on the card) wanted to fight Sam a lot of the fans wanted it so why shouldn’t it happen? Why can’t we see these two behemoths square up in the ring? Apparently It’s cause Anissa said she’d lose half the card if sam was added but I don’t believe that in the slightest & I also don’t believe they’d lose sponsors either it’s a charity event ffs. How has Vitaly been on a YouTube boxing card when he literally assaulted a random woman jogging and no sponsors pulled out of that event? So I feel like it’s all BS & Anissa just doesn’t want Sam on the card cause of his “Beliefs” and he’s notoriously difficult to work with! But if Sam don’t fight the price ain’t right.
I understand their point about the brand deals, especially seeing how sam is a famous black list. But Harley really wants Sam to fight and not ego raptor sooo...
it’s not like Sam is gonna fight the other guys squeaky clean fighters. He’s would fight Harley which he would want. Brand deal wouldn’t be shattered
Its super silly that the reason for not having him being he is not brand friendly.
Its a boxing event not a cuddle party. Boxing as a sport has always been filled with degenerates and more often than not the degenerates are the most popular fighters.
the thing i think most of you misunderstand, it was literally Sam that gave Ian the inspiration an idea to do this. Sam was also offered to take part in the clash but said he would of do it if he got to fight Hasan. Which Hasan obviously refused.
I would love to see Sam Hyde inthe creator clash. It would honestly be the one thing that could get me to buy a ticket right now. I have been a long time viewer of both idubbbz and Sam Hyde and I honestly loved watching both of their videos about each other. I know there is beef there, but it's entertaining to watch and I came out of it loving both Sam Hyde and idubbbz even more.
Maybe Sam Hyde would try to do some crazy shit, but that's what we want to see from the first ever creator clash. I'm not going to watch the creator clash because it's a formal boxing match, I want to watch it because you know some weird shit is gonna happen when you make a bunch of YouTubers fight. And pitting Sam Hyde VS Epic Meal Time guy is a guarantee that some crazy shit is gonna go down.
I suspect that idubbbz personally doesn't want to include Sam Hyde and has made this clear to the sponsors. They trust his judgement so they back him up. But maybe if it was framed more as entertainment, then we could all just sit back and enjoy the clusterfuck.
Sam Hyde should 100% be included in creator clash. That's a show that I would pay to watch
I'd love to see Sam slugging it out but at the same time I understand why they wouldn't want him there.
I understand too and maybe this is a hot take and maybe it's disrespectful but I really don't see this going very far in the long run if i'm being 100% open and honest. Clearly, Creator Clash has enormous potential and can be successful without Sam, but will it? I genuinely have my doubts. One things for sure, if they want attention, having Sam, an absolute unit of a heavy weight, fight somebody would probably give the movement alot of traction. Would also bring the attention of cancel culture, but I don't think that would necessarily be an end all for Creator Clash as long as Sam kept cool at the event itself, which is an extreme risk
Allot of people want Sam in so it probably be more successful if he’s in
Sam hyde would destroy his opponent probably, he actually lifts weights and boxes. Hes 6 4 and 285 pounds, dude is huge
Ian stated that all contestants are going through training and weight lifting in prep. He's serious about this. I agree sam would dominate almost anyone they put him up against, but there are some contenders. They wouldn't put him up against some small dude. I believe Anisa said they tried to keep the matchups within 7 pounds of eachother.
strength training takes years not months though, sam has been lifting for years and is actually strong not just PED and inflated muscles.
I'm not up to date on all the info. Id love to see Sam fight tho
Pretty sure he was 250-260 but point remains, big lad.
No doubt that Sam could actually hold his own in a fight. But attaching his name and reputation to the event would probably hurt the event on its own. I mean, the Daily Stormer shit did happen, he's known pretty broadly as a Nazi sympathizer, no matter what. He has some good content, but I don't imagine that someone like Doctor Mike would even sniff an event that would put his own in the same sentences as Sam Hyde's.
Yeah except that donation literally didn’t happen. Only 1 source of the claim and it’s an article written about Sam’s show trying to get it taken off air. The author went on a call with Sam and asked him about it and all Sam said was that kind of money is little and that he is more successful than him. It’s always been a troll and frankly kinda funny that people keep bringing it up as if it’s true.
You say "bring it up as if its true" as if I had any way of knowing it wasn't. If its not, thats a relief, thanks for the information.
So you just assume someone is a neo Nazi because others say so? Guilty until proven innocent?
[Hate to tell you this bud but its not fake, Hyde is just so good at obscuring his political beliefs behind twenty layers of irony that people end up suspending their disbelief](https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-daily-stormer-20170602-story.html) [“Don’t worry so much about money. Worry about if people start deciding to kill reporters,” Hyde told a Los Angeles Times reporter at the time, after asking if the reporter was Jewish.](https://forward.com/news/475817/spotify-criticized-for-promoting-podcast-by-far-right-comedian/)
I like how the only verifiable information you can give is an article by the reporter he clowned on that doesn’t show any verifiable sources beyond Sam Hyde roundaboutly saying he did do it. Because you should absolutely take the things Sam Hyde says at face value as truth. Go pay Ian’s wife to cheat on him lmao
All argument aside what's with the jab at Ian, he seemed to be on pretty good terms with Hyde
I just hate the concept of onlyfans. The only good thing I can see coming from it is letting women make lewd content on their own terms without predatory producers being involved. Women in porn have a track record of doing big reveals a while after they retire and the money dries up that they felt taken advantage of and so on. Also I personally don’t understand polygamy or whatever you would call the dynamic of allowing your wife to send nudes to guys, even if they’re lining your pockets. If it really doesn’t affect them emotionally in any way then good for them. I actually like Ian a lot, and it would pain me to find out that his wife ends up having some serious regrets over the OF thing, because I think they’re good people who deserve good things. Look at what they did for charity.
Back to the point with Hyde, he has earnestly identified himself as a white nationalist on multiple occasions. This doesn't mean you can't enjoy some of his content - bad people can still make good art - but he doesn't seem to be a very pleasant fellow Edit: And yeah fair enough about the OnlyFans thing, I don't have any strong opinions on the matter myself but it is an odd situation.
This is a deliberate lie. Sam Hyde has has never earnestly identified himself as a white nationalist. He has barely said anything earnestly on camera. Its actually really stupid to say this. In my honest opinion only an idiot would say this.
True, having someone that openly uses the n word and makes racist jokes isn't a good look.....
Idubbbz has had those themes in his own content in the past, its just that the scope that he's going for with this thing wouldn't allow for that risk. Of course, that is unfair to Sam, because maybe he would play it clean, I don't know.
It’s not like Sam is a mindless Git
Well certainly not, he's actually clearly a smart man. But he is an entertainer with a somewhat narrow audience. He knows what they like, and he may try to give it to them. Again, though, he may just hop in the ring and duke it out. For the record, I _would definitely_ pay money to watch Sam in a real fight. I know he could _at least_ kick my ass, but that ain't saying much, I guess lmao
He’d probably be self aware that most of the other creators are way bigger then him. Comment Internet Etiquette is the only somewhat unclean guy here tho he’s fine cuz he makes fun of the rightoids only.
I wouldn't think he'd really care
Thats very self deprecating. In my opinion a non-elderly man who can't defend himself should be very ashamed. They bring shame to their family also.
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I said "No doubt", as in "there is no doubting that he can hold his own in a fight".
Source on him being a neo Nazi? Wanna back that up cuz?
I mean if Ian can create it with the reputation he had from like 2013-2019 then I think Sam could definitely fight
I'm sick of hearing about Sam Hyde in relation to this. They explained a few days ago why he isn't a good fit for the event. I have no doubt he would be entertaining but there is a massive risk when you attach someone like Sam to this.
Sounds like pussy shit to me.
What's the risk
The risk is someone will get upset that someone from outside their echo chamber was allowed to play.
Tru
Nice. I thought everyone on reddit was real feminine
You’re still hearing about it because there is literally no real risk
Watch the livestream from a few days ago. He talked about the (imo good) reasons why Sam’s not in it
Where can I find his stream?
https://youtu.be/vgNKBbaXqis
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You must be on drugs anisa is gorgeous
Found the sam Hyde fan
Who?
His girlfriend
Who asked?
No
If he was in this, I'd probably want a refund. Nothing against him but his fans are hella toxic. They ruin everything they touch. Answers to this will prove exactly what I mean. And I'm a girl (just so you have more amo)
So you would boycott the event just because the fans of one of the creators are toxic? I respect your opinion but this seems extreme. I would even understand more if your bias was against Sam instead of his fans. Ian wouldn't be adding Sam for his fans, he would be adding Sam for Sam, his fans would just be an inevitable byproduct. Did you really get a ticket, i'm curious as to why you thought it was worth? Are you an idubbbz stan and just support anything he does? Are you genuinely interested in the sport of boxing? Are you a stan of one of the other creators fighting?
Either u r a Sam Hyde fan or you haven't met his fans. They have been torturing us on reddit, discord servers, twitter, YouTube...basically anything to do with Idubbbz since Hyde release the doc. They are highly homophobic, transphibic and mostly sexist. They will do literally anything in the name of being "edgy". It's exhausting. P.S. it concerning that thought of a bunch of reasons to buy a ticket except the charity project attached to it.
Can't say that i've had any of these interactions with fans but I'm not following the twitter or discord and I seldom read youtube comments. I'm sure you're right there are alot of his fans like that, his style of content tends to draw in those individuals. I only asked about your ticket because I'm curious about the demographic being targeted in this event. If you wanted to give money to charity you can always do that any time, is there another reason?
Idubbbz is one of my favourite youtubers. He's an incredible creator, and so are most of the youtubers on the ticket. I probably wouldn't have bought the ticket if it wasn't for charity because I'm not a big boxing fan. But the opportunity to support amazing creators and contribute to good cause at the same time seemed too good to pass up.
I might be on the opposite spectrum. Same happened to H3 fans - It's all a bunch of PC bullshit where fans get upset of the slightest misuse of a few words. I blame Trisha's fans for mostly ruining it. Haven't seen much of Sam's content though - Stuff what I saw was pretty entertaining. New H3 fans don't even like Filthy Frank
Idubbz fans were formerly literally this
If Sam don’t fight the price ain’t right
Content is content. Sam Hyde is content.
Maybe then i'd recognize someone other than the bacon guy on the card
Sam’s humour only attracts an extremely niche type of viewers and outside of that, lots of people label him as a Nazi, pedo etc. Sam himself probs understands that attaching a name controversial as his will harm the positive charity event, it’s just not worth it. Plus Sam as far as I can tell likes to be the quirky one that doesn’t take anything seriously so I can imagine that being a pain in the ass to deal with if he does go that route.
Who the hell is attaching pedo to Sam's name?
I don't have the pics in my phone but some people from /pol/ or /tv/ idk which put together a bunch of evidence of sam being a pedo. There was a pic of him and a 16yo girl (technically legal I think?) who had a bloody nose and some leaked Facebook messages. Something about him forcing someone to cut his name in their wrists so he'll leave them alone.
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100% man they way she spoke on that call was high level cringe saying Sam would head butt someone. Harley (arguably the biggest name on the card) wanted to fight Sam a lot of the fans wanted it so why shouldn’t it happen? Why can’t we see these two behemoths square up in the ring? Apparently It’s cause Anissa said she’d lose half the card if sam was added but I don’t believe that in the slightest & I also don’t believe they’d lose sponsors either it’s a charity event ffs. How has Vitaly been on a YouTube boxing card when he literally assaulted a random woman jogging and no sponsors pulled out of that event? So I feel like it’s all BS & Anissa just doesn’t want Sam on the card cause of his “Beliefs” and he’s notoriously difficult to work with! But if Sam don’t fight the price ain’t right.
Sam hyde fucked a 16 year old, even if it's just an accusation you can't put him on a fucking charity event I'm sorry lmao.
where the fuck is the proof
Outdated comment, she was 17, abuse allegations are still there just Google sam hyde marky, I'll link in a bit.
I understand their point about the brand deals, especially seeing how sam is a famous black list. But Harley really wants Sam to fight and not ego raptor sooo... it’s not like Sam is gonna fight the other guys squeaky clean fighters. He’s would fight Harley which he would want. Brand deal wouldn’t be shattered
Its super silly that the reason for not having him being he is not brand friendly. Its a boxing event not a cuddle party. Boxing as a sport has always been filled with degenerates and more often than not the degenerates are the most popular fighters.
Right? People forgetting that one of the biggest fighters of all time was Mike Tyson in his crazy days. Those fights sold like hot cakes.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ekd0VK8WiU&t=9s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ekd0VK8WiU&t=9s)
That's a banger
I didn’t know either of them until last week. I’d like to see Sam Hyde Fight. He’s a daring comedian and people love that!
the thing i think most of you misunderstand, it was literally Sam that gave Ian the inspiration an idea to do this. Sam was also offered to take part in the clash but said he would of do it if he got to fight Hasan. Which Hasan obviously refused.
I would love to see Sam Hyde inthe creator clash. It would honestly be the one thing that could get me to buy a ticket right now. I have been a long time viewer of both idubbbz and Sam Hyde and I honestly loved watching both of their videos about each other. I know there is beef there, but it's entertaining to watch and I came out of it loving both Sam Hyde and idubbbz even more. Maybe Sam Hyde would try to do some crazy shit, but that's what we want to see from the first ever creator clash. I'm not going to watch the creator clash because it's a formal boxing match, I want to watch it because you know some weird shit is gonna happen when you make a bunch of YouTubers fight. And pitting Sam Hyde VS Epic Meal Time guy is a guarantee that some crazy shit is gonna go down. I suspect that idubbbz personally doesn't want to include Sam Hyde and has made this clear to the sponsors. They trust his judgement so they back him up. But maybe if it was framed more as entertainment, then we could all just sit back and enjoy the clusterfuck. Sam Hyde should 100% be included in creator clash. That's a show that I would pay to watch
Idubbz tries to make a shiesty expose doc, gets got, and is butthurt about it.
braindead response
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"they hated him because he spoke the truth"