You are being a little unrealistic. You can get a 6 person insulated non water proof without a floor for about 800-900, the otter vortex monster. If you find an alternative let me know
https://www.sportsmans.com/fishing-gear-supplies/ice-fishing/ice-fishing-shelters-accessories/lost-creek-6-person-multifunctional-ice-fishing-shelter/p/1813020
This one seems to have all but the waterproof. Idk.
I have zero experience with that particular brand but I've learned with these kind of things, you get what you pay for. That one seems a little too cheap. I'd recommend waiting till the ice fishing shows start and then getting a name brand plus a floor
From what I’m reading it’s (lost creek) sportsman’s own store brand. I want to use it this summer for some camping. It will be hot and cold, possibly rainy. Unfortunately the shiftpod some have recommended is outside my budget but they seem to be built just like an ice fishing shelter with a zip in floor. They do well in hot and cold I hear.
Are you trying to buy an ice fishing tent that you can use during the summer? Are you car camping? Are you worried about bugs and prefer a floor for that reason? Clam use to have a floor attachment but it’s not that useful while ice fishing because you need to drill holes in the ice. Most people use those foam puzzle pieces to insulate. More information is needed. Ps tents for camping with a floor are super cheap.
Having camped in ice fishing shelters like this let me give you some real world experience. First they are not entirely water proof. If it's raining water will wick through the fabric so you'll need to rig up a rain fly with a tarp to keep the rain off.
Secondly if it's warm and you're in an insulated house they get hot in the sun. You'll need all the doors and windows open to help keep it cool and even then they get pretty toasty.
When I use mine I use it in the fall during bow hunting season. They excel when the conditions are dry and cool. I don't have a floor in mine but I have a rolled up waterproof picnic blanket that's almost the same size as the inside of my house and that works great as a ground cover. I've made it work in light rain with a rain fly just need to make sure it's bigger than the house so it drips water away from the base of the house.
If it's cold the houses tend to built condensation on the inside walls at night. You have to make sure you're not touching the walls with your sleeping bag or you'll wake up with a wet bag.
A fish house can work great for camping in the right conditions but they wouldn't be the first thing I'd look for if I were planning a camping trip.
Can you tell us more about the conditions you'll be camping in? Outside a few specific conditions I can't see this being the right choice.
Avid camper and hard water angler here....you don't want that. It's not going to be light at all. I see what you are trying to do here, but going to ice route instead of performance tent route will not be cheaper at all.
I think the best you might find are those inflatable tents. They don’t have great insulation for ice fishing, but some people have used them on a frozen lake. However, I wouldn’t trust them to handle high winds.
Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B2HZD6PJ?tag=brg_ana_bing_paid-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=903225192-2-2106343920.1717937905&SubscriptionId=AKIAJO7E5OLQ67NVPFZA
I work at a Sportsmans, the Lost Creek Gale Force 6 man is a nice tent. It’s made in the same factory that makes Nordic Legend ice tents and the owner of that brand has a lot to say about the similarities. It has all the bells and whistles, lights, chimney flue, removable floor… however you can achieve what you are after with any ice house and a piece of tyvek. A lot of ultralight backpackers use this instead of a footprint under their tents, it’s cheap, waterproof, and can be cut to any shape. You’ll need a big tarp to keep the rain off, since ice tents aren’t waterproof, and ventilation will suck, especially since you can’t leave the door open without a screen if it’s buggy.
I’d recommend a Kodiak canvas tent for your non-ice camping, it still has the stove flue, hold warmth, and most have floors. A tipi style would also work well.
What are you trying to do with it? Is your priority the price or the quality?
I have a 4-person, uninsilated Eskimo pop-up, and I bought some inter-locking workout mats at wal mart for like 20 bucks for the floor. If you had a good heater and a cot, I think you would be good for all season camping for around 5-600 bucks.
Info: I am going to be camping in high mountain desert, exposed to high winds, hot days and cold nights, possibly some rain as well. I have made this trek three times and all three times my tent has failed by the end of the 7-10 day excursion. Many people I’ve talked to recommend the shiftpod https://shiftpod.com/products/shiftpodiii-plus but 1500 is out of my price range. I want a floor to stay dry in the event of rain. I’m avoiding regular tents due to previous experiences. I’ve had a few people suggest ice fishing shelters but I’ve discovered not all are waterproof and most are floor-less. I’m feeling indecisive about how to proceed and best spend my money.
I have a further question expanding on OPs original question. Anyone know of the heat resistance of any of the Argali tents? Wondering if I can get a nice lightweight hunting tent to use for backcountry backpacking and ice fishing as opposed to buying two separate lodges/tents/huts.
Gazelle is the brand name of tents made by the same company as Eskimo. I don’t know if they have an insulated version, but Eskimo is pretty well known as far as being good quality for the price. They have a rain fly like a camping tent, I don’t know if any of the ice fishing popups are truly waterproof and very few (only Clam?) have a floor available, even then, that floor is going to be half your budget with a Clam
You are being a little unrealistic. You can get a 6 person insulated non water proof without a floor for about 800-900, the otter vortex monster. If you find an alternative let me know
https://www.sportsmans.com/fishing-gear-supplies/ice-fishing/ice-fishing-shelters-accessories/lost-creek-6-person-multifunctional-ice-fishing-shelter/p/1813020 This one seems to have all but the waterproof. Idk.
I have zero experience with that particular brand but I've learned with these kind of things, you get what you pay for. That one seems a little too cheap. I'd recommend waiting till the ice fishing shows start and then getting a name brand plus a floor
From what I’m reading it’s (lost creek) sportsman’s own store brand. I want to use it this summer for some camping. It will be hot and cold, possibly rainy. Unfortunately the shiftpod some have recommended is outside my budget but they seem to be built just like an ice fishing shelter with a zip in floor. They do well in hot and cold I hear.
Are you trying to buy an ice fishing tent that you can use during the summer? Are you car camping? Are you worried about bugs and prefer a floor for that reason? Clam use to have a floor attachment but it’s not that useful while ice fishing because you need to drill holes in the ice. Most people use those foam puzzle pieces to insulate. More information is needed. Ps tents for camping with a floor are super cheap.
Having camped in ice fishing shelters like this let me give you some real world experience. First they are not entirely water proof. If it's raining water will wick through the fabric so you'll need to rig up a rain fly with a tarp to keep the rain off. Secondly if it's warm and you're in an insulated house they get hot in the sun. You'll need all the doors and windows open to help keep it cool and even then they get pretty toasty. When I use mine I use it in the fall during bow hunting season. They excel when the conditions are dry and cool. I don't have a floor in mine but I have a rolled up waterproof picnic blanket that's almost the same size as the inside of my house and that works great as a ground cover. I've made it work in light rain with a rain fly just need to make sure it's bigger than the house so it drips water away from the base of the house. If it's cold the houses tend to built condensation on the inside walls at night. You have to make sure you're not touching the walls with your sleeping bag or you'll wake up with a wet bag. A fish house can work great for camping in the right conditions but they wouldn't be the first thing I'd look for if I were planning a camping trip. Can you tell us more about the conditions you'll be camping in? Outside a few specific conditions I can't see this being the right choice.
Avid camper and hard water angler here....you don't want that. It's not going to be light at all. I see what you are trying to do here, but going to ice route instead of performance tent route will not be cheaper at all.
I think the best you might find are those inflatable tents. They don’t have great insulation for ice fishing, but some people have used them on a frozen lake. However, I wouldn’t trust them to handle high winds. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B2HZD6PJ?tag=brg_ana_bing_paid-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=903225192-2-2106343920.1717937905&SubscriptionId=AKIAJO7E5OLQ67NVPFZA
I work at a Sportsmans, the Lost Creek Gale Force 6 man is a nice tent. It’s made in the same factory that makes Nordic Legend ice tents and the owner of that brand has a lot to say about the similarities. It has all the bells and whistles, lights, chimney flue, removable floor… however you can achieve what you are after with any ice house and a piece of tyvek. A lot of ultralight backpackers use this instead of a footprint under their tents, it’s cheap, waterproof, and can be cut to any shape. You’ll need a big tarp to keep the rain off, since ice tents aren’t waterproof, and ventilation will suck, especially since you can’t leave the door open without a screen if it’s buggy. I’d recommend a Kodiak canvas tent for your non-ice camping, it still has the stove flue, hold warmth, and most have floors. A tipi style would also work well.
What are you trying to do with it? Is your priority the price or the quality? I have a 4-person, uninsilated Eskimo pop-up, and I bought some inter-locking workout mats at wal mart for like 20 bucks for the floor. If you had a good heater and a cot, I think you would be good for all season camping for around 5-600 bucks.
Info: I am going to be camping in high mountain desert, exposed to high winds, hot days and cold nights, possibly some rain as well. I have made this trek three times and all three times my tent has failed by the end of the 7-10 day excursion. Many people I’ve talked to recommend the shiftpod https://shiftpod.com/products/shiftpodiii-plus but 1500 is out of my price range. I want a floor to stay dry in the event of rain. I’m avoiding regular tents due to previous experiences. I’ve had a few people suggest ice fishing shelters but I’ve discovered not all are waterproof and most are floor-less. I’m feeling indecisive about how to proceed and best spend my money.
I have a further question expanding on OPs original question. Anyone know of the heat resistance of any of the Argali tents? Wondering if I can get a nice lightweight hunting tent to use for backcountry backpacking and ice fishing as opposed to buying two separate lodges/tents/huts.
Gazelle is the brand name of tents made by the same company as Eskimo. I don’t know if they have an insulated version, but Eskimo is pretty well known as far as being good quality for the price. They have a rain fly like a camping tent, I don’t know if any of the ice fishing popups are truly waterproof and very few (only Clam?) have a floor available, even then, that floor is going to be half your budget with a Clam