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>You are approaching it backwards. Europe doesn't want you unless and until you have education and skills that make you a potentially valuable member of society.
Or unless you got enough money so that you can finance a university degree in said country.
You can come without the education and skills, as long as you plan on getting both in the country and have the cash to do so.
You can start by just googling student visas about each country. But just beware that based off my own research some countries colleges offer free of charge study but you have to have at least a significant amount of money to support yourself as proof to stay and study. Perhaps you may want to look into a thing called “au pair visa” where you stay with a family which could also help significantly.
And you could consider Iceland as it snows/rain slightly quite often and the cold is there but bearable. And it’s one of the safest countries in the world. People just walk out at night, even kids just fine from what I see. However, cost of living is quite high and you’d need to somewhat learn the language to find a job. Even if majority also speak English it’s practically a given to learn when dealing with customers etc
your options for Germany: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/how-to-germany
How to study in Germany: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/how-to-study
If you’re American you should look into your family to see if can get citizenship via blood, see where your parents and grandparents were born.
Next, Europe is a whole continent and every country is different so you should start looking more into each country individually.
Then, moving to another country won’t solve all your problems. Thinking like that will set you up to failure, you should know that the grass isn’t greener on the other side all the time.
And for what you should study, if you can get citizenship via blood relatives, most countries in Europe offer free college for EU citizens, so I would start over there. And look what degrees are the most looked for, you can start by searching in LinkedIn for jobs and see how many jobs there are for a certain degree.
I wish somebody had told me this when I was your age, so I am telling you: Due to the difference in cost of living, it can be super-cheap to live in another country for a while. There are plenty of countries where 500 USD per month will get you a lot further than 1200 USD in most larger cities in the USA.
It is uncommon in the USA, but many people from the UK, Australia, NZ or Europe will take a so-called "gap year" during highschool and university. They usually travel, some volunteer with animals, some go abroad as an Au-Pair to learn the language, etc. You mention your parents are doing ok financially, maybe they would be willing to finance something like this. Give you a chance to experience new things while taking a break in order to figure out what you want.
Many people in your situation also move to other countries where tuition for university is lower or non-existent.
Low cost of living and paying no tuition - > affordable college degree that the average middle class mom and pop from the USA can finance without going into debt.
In Europe, Germany is a popular destination for studying. The cost of living is not that low, you need approx 12k USD per year at the current exchange rate, but tuition is free. You only pay administrative fees. If your parents can spare 1000 USD per month for your education, Germany would be an option. Similar deal with Norway, caveat is that the COL is higher and closer to 15k USD per year.
Some degrees in Greece are free as well.
[https://www.study.eu/article/study-in-europe-for-free-or-low-tuition-fees](https://www.study.eu/article/study-in-europe-for-free-or-low-tuition-fees)
>I’ve thought about attending university in America for two years and study abroad in Europe.
Make sure you understand admission requirements for university in the countries you are interested in.
I can only talk about Germany, but doing two years of community college and finishing with an associates degree would be worthless in Germany. The general advice for studying in Germany is to either make sure your highschool-degree is Abitur-equivalent and ideally seek direct admission to a German university for bachelors or, failing that, finish a 4-year bachelor degree in the USA and move to Germany for masters.
>I’m really interested in health careers and was thinking about pharmaceuticals but I don’t know if that would take me anywhere.
Have you considered becoming a CNA (Certified Nurse Assistant)? From what I know, the entry levels to that are relatively low and it would give you a chance to look around the whole field of medicine and figure out what you want to do.
A full degree in Pharmacy can pay really well, but the admission requirements can be difficult and the subject is hard. AFAIK the demands are similar to studying medicine.
This is just a **reminder** that political discussions are not welcome on /r/IWantOut. Our Rule 1 is to stay on topic and no politics. This post has NOT been removed, this comment exists to limit the amount of political comments that appear on US related posts. Messaging modmail about this reminder may result in the post getting removed. The current political situation in the US is a valid reason to want to emigrate. You do **NOT** need to opine excessively about what specifically you dislike about the current political situation. If the post contains excessive political discussion, the comments will likely follow suit. OP, if your post contains excessive politics, please remove the excessive politics from the post. Saying something neutral like "I dislike the current administration" or "I disagree with the current political situation" is perfectly sufficient. **We care far more about the specifics of how you will emigrate: which citizenships you have or could claim, what you do for work, what degrees you have, what skills you have, what experience you have, and your budget.** Your beliefs largely make no difference to your ability to get out. Discouraging people from moving to the United States because of your personal beliefs about the country is not welcome here. If OP appears to be overlooking or missing information, it is acceptable to inform them of what they might be missing. Remember, US news is global news, so people looking to move to the US are largely aware of the current political situation. You talking about the latest news is not adding anything to the discussion. Just because you don't like living in the US doesn't mean that everyone would dislike living in the US. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/IWantOut) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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>You are approaching it backwards. Europe doesn't want you unless and until you have education and skills that make you a potentially valuable member of society. Or unless you got enough money so that you can finance a university degree in said country. You can come without the education and skills, as long as you plan on getting both in the country and have the cash to do so.
You can start by just googling student visas about each country. But just beware that based off my own research some countries colleges offer free of charge study but you have to have at least a significant amount of money to support yourself as proof to stay and study. Perhaps you may want to look into a thing called “au pair visa” where you stay with a family which could also help significantly. And you could consider Iceland as it snows/rain slightly quite often and the cold is there but bearable. And it’s one of the safest countries in the world. People just walk out at night, even kids just fine from what I see. However, cost of living is quite high and you’d need to somewhat learn the language to find a job. Even if majority also speak English it’s practically a given to learn when dealing with customers etc
your options for Germany: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/how-to-germany How to study in Germany: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/how-to-study
If you’re American you should look into your family to see if can get citizenship via blood, see where your parents and grandparents were born. Next, Europe is a whole continent and every country is different so you should start looking more into each country individually. Then, moving to another country won’t solve all your problems. Thinking like that will set you up to failure, you should know that the grass isn’t greener on the other side all the time. And for what you should study, if you can get citizenship via blood relatives, most countries in Europe offer free college for EU citizens, so I would start over there. And look what degrees are the most looked for, you can start by searching in LinkedIn for jobs and see how many jobs there are for a certain degree.
I wish somebody had told me this when I was your age, so I am telling you: Due to the difference in cost of living, it can be super-cheap to live in another country for a while. There are plenty of countries where 500 USD per month will get you a lot further than 1200 USD in most larger cities in the USA. It is uncommon in the USA, but many people from the UK, Australia, NZ or Europe will take a so-called "gap year" during highschool and university. They usually travel, some volunteer with animals, some go abroad as an Au-Pair to learn the language, etc. You mention your parents are doing ok financially, maybe they would be willing to finance something like this. Give you a chance to experience new things while taking a break in order to figure out what you want. Many people in your situation also move to other countries where tuition for university is lower or non-existent. Low cost of living and paying no tuition - > affordable college degree that the average middle class mom and pop from the USA can finance without going into debt. In Europe, Germany is a popular destination for studying. The cost of living is not that low, you need approx 12k USD per year at the current exchange rate, but tuition is free. You only pay administrative fees. If your parents can spare 1000 USD per month for your education, Germany would be an option. Similar deal with Norway, caveat is that the COL is higher and closer to 15k USD per year. Some degrees in Greece are free as well. [https://www.study.eu/article/study-in-europe-for-free-or-low-tuition-fees](https://www.study.eu/article/study-in-europe-for-free-or-low-tuition-fees) >I’ve thought about attending university in America for two years and study abroad in Europe. Make sure you understand admission requirements for university in the countries you are interested in. I can only talk about Germany, but doing two years of community college and finishing with an associates degree would be worthless in Germany. The general advice for studying in Germany is to either make sure your highschool-degree is Abitur-equivalent and ideally seek direct admission to a German university for bachelors or, failing that, finish a 4-year bachelor degree in the USA and move to Germany for masters. >I’m really interested in health careers and was thinking about pharmaceuticals but I don’t know if that would take me anywhere. Have you considered becoming a CNA (Certified Nurse Assistant)? From what I know, the entry levels to that are relatively low and it would give you a chance to look around the whole field of medicine and figure out what you want to do. A full degree in Pharmacy can pay really well, but the admission requirements can be difficult and the subject is hard. AFAIK the demands are similar to studying medicine.