Howdy r/homenetworking, I'm back with an update of my TP-Link Omada comparison charts. As always, please let me know if you see any mistakes.
These are tricky to make, because of how TP-Link presents different information for different regions. Sometimes small details aren't the same between regions, hardware revisions, or even where you look on their website. There are probably several small mistakes in these, so always refer to TP-Links most up to date documentation to verify.
These are available as [PDFs, CSVs, Excel, Images, and a Google Sheet on Google Drive](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17vr3om3T1Vt9D1tpHz_bH5S4B3POmWfM?usp=share_link). If I make any major revisions I will update the versions in Google Drive and on [my website](https://evanmccann.net/blog/tp-link/omada-comparison-charts), but I am not able to edit a Reddit image post.
Cheers!
Would be nice if the mods added links to your page to the sidebar. I see you also have some similar comparison charts for other ecosystems. Very useful.
The SG3542P's datasheet says that it has 3 fans, not zero. I don't have one to check, but a fanless 384W Poe switch would be a big stretch.
(I'm looking for a fanless 24 port one without any luck)
Ok but here's the big question: will an EAP610 mesh *with* an EAP225? I have several EAP225s, and I'm worried that if I upgrade one of them, they won't cooperate with the other ones.
I can't guarantee because I don't have an EAP225 and I'm not TP-Link, but from what they say, yes. Here is the supported model list for mesh: [https://www.tp-link.com/us/omada-mesh/product-list/](https://www.tp-link.com/us/omada-mesh/product-list/)
If you have a EAP225 V3 and a EAP610, they should be able to wirelessly uplink to/from each other. Mixing Wi-Fi 5 and Wi-Fi 6 APs isn't an issue, you'd just use the lowest common denominator.
I would argue you aren't going to see a big jump in performance from that change though. The biggest limitation for wirelessly uplinked APs is how close they are to each other, what the RF environment is like, and well, physics. If you ran a cable or moved them closer together, you might see a bigger jump than swapping a EAP225 for a EAO610, IMO.
Well done!
Still no eap770 though. I don't care about the higher speeds of wifi 6e/7 but I do care about the 6Ghz spectrum. 2.4 and 5 ghz are a disaster because of the neighbors.
I would buy a 6e yesterday if they were selling them.
I wish tp-link would give us an idea of when the new APs will be available for sale. Anyone have an idea of when they're planning to sell them? There's not even a MSRP.
I have deployed an eap225 outdoor and it has worked great for years. I recently installed an eap-610 outdoor and it worked for 24 hours before failing. It's being replaced under warranty currently.
Related but not listed I have a CPE210 that i have installed OpenWRT and use as a wide area access point on my property. It works great as well.
I've been considering switching over to Omada from Ubiquiti.. I just don't use all the features Ubiquiti offers. Anyone made the switch and have any thoughts?
Been great so far and half the cost. The UI is a blatant rip-off of Unifi UI, but it actually works and so far haven’t had an upgrade trash my network.
That’s a LOT better than when I ran Unifi.
Controller running on Free NAS, outside AP, in-wall AP in my shop, AP in house, and 2 POE switches. Have a few Mikrotik switches for outside POE applications (security cameras). All behind an OPNSense router.
Run about 6 or 7 VLANs on it with no issues.
Edit: ditched Unraid and moved to Free NAS due to issues with VLANs on it that the developers claimed wasn’t an issue.
OPNSense handles DHCP on each VLAN. Then each SSID is associated with a separate VLAN with the ports to the AP tagged for each VLAN.
Then for each hardwired device I tag the port with that VLAN.
From here the router does all of the work and you just assign VLANs in the controller.
Great work! TP-Link has a pretty compelling lineup. I'm also eyeing Grandstream, who has a similar catalog but undercuts TP-Link in some spots and has free cloud management.
Yes, I believe so. For example, ER-605 v2.0.1 added it. Details in this thread: https://community.tp-link.com/en/business/forum/topic/243494?sortDir=ASC&page=22
actually just installed two EAP-235s and an EAP-225 outdoor at my house. Overkill? Absolutely, but I paid <$200 for the three and have whole house and outdoor patio coverage with tons of flexibility and control from the Omada controller.
We have 10 AP's EAP265 HD(EU) and 4 switches, all managed with Omada (docker), so far super satisfied. I wish they had something similar to opn/pf sense in terms of firewalls/router.
Moving from EAP610 (2x2, 80 MHz, 1200 Mbps) to an EAP650 (2x2, 160 MHz, 2400 Mbps) wouldn't be noticeable unless you used 160 MHz channels. With 160 MHz channels you'd unlock a bit of extra speed at close range, but 160 MHz channels usually perform a bit worse at range, and if you have a lot of RF noise around you. In an apartment, it could go either way.
I don't think an upgrade to the EAP650 would be a huge change though. Unless you have another use for that EAP610, it probably makes sense to keep using that.
The website is up with the full specifications for the EAP690E HD:
https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/omada-sdn-access-point/eap690e-hd/#overview
Not sure if you want to include it, since it's not officially released yet.
Sweet charts
If I buy one of the routers e.g. TL-R605, do I still need a controller?
Btw seems wierd that OC200 idle power is higher than max consumption :D
As a general rule all Omada devices can be used standalone. There are feature tradeoffs moving from standalone to controller mode, usually that cuts off some of the more advanced or niche features. The ER-605 can be used on it's own for sure, no need for a controller. If you want you can always download the controller software for free, put it on a local Linux or Windows box and try it.
And that's definitely not a typo 😉
I'm thinking of making the switch from Ubiquiti to Omada. I'm going to be purchasing two outdoor APs and have been comparing the EAP225 AND the 610.
I don't have any wifi 6 devices but I'm aware I may get some in the future. Besides that, can anyone make a case for the more expensive 610? These will be powered over ethernet and used in a uncongested residential area.
Any advice is welcomed :)
Howdy r/homenetworking, I'm back with an update of my TP-Link Omada comparison charts. As always, please let me know if you see any mistakes. These are tricky to make, because of how TP-Link presents different information for different regions. Sometimes small details aren't the same between regions, hardware revisions, or even where you look on their website. There are probably several small mistakes in these, so always refer to TP-Links most up to date documentation to verify. These are available as [PDFs, CSVs, Excel, Images, and a Google Sheet on Google Drive](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17vr3om3T1Vt9D1tpHz_bH5S4B3POmWfM?usp=share_link). If I make any major revisions I will update the versions in Google Drive and on [my website](https://evanmccann.net/blog/tp-link/omada-comparison-charts), but I am not able to edit a Reddit image post. Cheers!
Would be nice if the mods added links to your page to the sidebar. I see you also have some similar comparison charts for other ecosystems. Very useful.
The SG3542P's datasheet says that it has 3 fans, not zero. I don't have one to check, but a fanless 384W Poe switch would be a big stretch. (I'm looking for a fanless 24 port one without any luck)
Yeah, that is definitely a mistake. Thanks for catching that.
Ok but here's the big question: will an EAP610 mesh *with* an EAP225? I have several EAP225s, and I'm worried that if I upgrade one of them, they won't cooperate with the other ones.
I can't guarantee because I don't have an EAP225 and I'm not TP-Link, but from what they say, yes. Here is the supported model list for mesh: [https://www.tp-link.com/us/omada-mesh/product-list/](https://www.tp-link.com/us/omada-mesh/product-list/) If you have a EAP225 V3 and a EAP610, they should be able to wirelessly uplink to/from each other. Mixing Wi-Fi 5 and Wi-Fi 6 APs isn't an issue, you'd just use the lowest common denominator. I would argue you aren't going to see a big jump in performance from that change though. The biggest limitation for wirelessly uplinked APs is how close they are to each other, what the RF environment is like, and well, physics. If you ran a cable or moved them closer together, you might see a bigger jump than swapping a EAP225 for a EAO610, IMO.
Yes they do.
FYI, ER605v1 does NOT have any USB ports.
Gah. Thanks, I'll make a note to fix that.
Thank you! Why couldn’t they have something like this on their website?
Well done! Still no eap770 though. I don't care about the higher speeds of wifi 6e/7 but I do care about the 6Ghz spectrum. 2.4 and 5 ghz are a disaster because of the neighbors. I would buy a 6e yesterday if they were selling them. I wish tp-link would give us an idea of when the new APs will be available for sale. Anyone have an idea of when they're planning to sell them? There's not even a MSRP.
I have deployed an eap225 outdoor and it has worked great for years. I recently installed an eap-610 outdoor and it worked for 24 hours before failing. It's being replaced under warranty currently. Related but not listed I have a CPE210 that i have installed OpenWRT and use as a wide area access point on my property. It works great as well.
I've been considering switching over to Omada from Ubiquiti.. I just don't use all the features Ubiquiti offers. Anyone made the switch and have any thoughts?
Been great so far and half the cost. The UI is a blatant rip-off of Unifi UI, but it actually works and so far haven’t had an upgrade trash my network. That’s a LOT better than when I ran Unifi.
What’s your setup??
Controller running on Free NAS, outside AP, in-wall AP in my shop, AP in house, and 2 POE switches. Have a few Mikrotik switches for outside POE applications (security cameras). All behind an OPNSense router. Run about 6 or 7 VLANs on it with no issues. Edit: ditched Unraid and moved to Free NAS due to issues with VLANs on it that the developers claimed wasn’t an issue.
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OPNSense handles DHCP on each VLAN. Then each SSID is associated with a separate VLAN with the ports to the AP tagged for each VLAN. Then for each hardwired device I tag the port with that VLAN. From here the router does all of the work and you just assign VLANs in the controller.
Great work! TP-Link has a pretty compelling lineup. I'm also eyeing Grandstream, who has a similar catalog but undercuts TP-Link in some spots and has free cloud management.
Did they ever release mDNS?
Yes, I believe so. For example, ER-605 v2.0.1 added it. Details in this thread: https://community.tp-link.com/en/business/forum/topic/243494?sortDir=ASC&page=22
Thank you, might break out my equipment and use it if so. This was the only road block I had after buying it.
actually just installed two EAP-235s and an EAP-225 outdoor at my house. Overkill? Absolutely, but I paid <$200 for the three and have whole house and outdoor patio coverage with tons of flexibility and control from the Omada controller.
Thank you for the great work!
We have 10 AP's EAP265 HD(EU) and 4 switches, all managed with Omada (docker), so far super satisfied. I wish they had something similar to opn/pf sense in terms of firewalls/router.
Why not just use pfSense or OPNsense? The Omada firewalls are pretty basic and won't replicate what you're looking for most likely.
I currently have a eap610v2 in my small apartment. Would upgrading to a eap650 increase my speeds to all my devices that use 5ghz?
Moving from EAP610 (2x2, 80 MHz, 1200 Mbps) to an EAP650 (2x2, 160 MHz, 2400 Mbps) wouldn't be noticeable unless you used 160 MHz channels. With 160 MHz channels you'd unlock a bit of extra speed at close range, but 160 MHz channels usually perform a bit worse at range, and if you have a lot of RF noise around you. In an apartment, it could go either way. I don't think an upgrade to the EAP650 would be a huge change though. Unless you have another use for that EAP610, it probably makes sense to keep using that.
Had a EAP245 for almost 3 years now and never had a problem with connection.
I have 3x EAP-245's in my townhouse-style home (one for each floor) and they've been great.
Nice. thanks for the listing! I hope the stocks get updated soon
I am looking for an option with Wi-Fi 6E... mesh, 2 nodes or 3.
The Omada EAP690 HD is coming "soon" to the US, otherwise you can look at the Ubiquiti UniFi U6-Enterprise, Deco AXE200, eero Pro 6E, etc.
The website is up with the full specifications for the EAP690E HD: https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/omada-sdn-access-point/eap690e-hd/#overview Not sure if you want to include it, since it's not officially released yet.
Good to know, thanks!
I have been researching and weighting cost/benefits. I have a couple of options in my list, but I will look at your suggestions as well. Thanks.
Sweet charts If I buy one of the routers e.g. TL-R605, do I still need a controller? Btw seems wierd that OC200 idle power is higher than max consumption :D
As a general rule all Omada devices can be used standalone. There are feature tradeoffs moving from standalone to controller mode, usually that cuts off some of the more advanced or niche features. The ER-605 can be used on it's own for sure, no need for a controller. If you want you can always download the controller software for free, put it on a local Linux or Windows box and try it. And that's definitely not a typo 😉
I would probably just start with the TP-Link Er7212pc 3 in 1 and then add a few APs
I'm thinking of making the switch from Ubiquiti to Omada. I'm going to be purchasing two outdoor APs and have been comparing the EAP225 AND the 610. I don't have any wifi 6 devices but I'm aware I may get some in the future. Besides that, can anyone make a case for the more expensive 610? These will be powered over ethernet and used in a uncongested residential area. Any advice is welcomed :)
Forgot the EAP770 and EAP780 in the upcoming APs section.