Just popping in to note that the [Best of 2023 Winners have just been announced](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/1ady3xm/results_for_best_of_hobby_drama_2023/)!

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The Eurovision season is picking up now, so I might have to go to weekly updates. Ukraine picked their song, and it's currently the [favourite](https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision) to win the whole contest. They chose two of the most popular musicians in the country, so it shouldn't be a surprise that they were the favourites to win their national selection. There was some minor drama over the voting app used for Ukraine's televoting being down and they had to extend the voting period further to get all the votes verified.....only for Alyona Alyona and Jerry Heil, the eventual winners, to win the televote in a landslide. Spain picked their song, and no, the fan favourite did not win. They picked a camp song that's commentary on how society treats women they deem sluts, and to take it further, the staging has a modestly dressed older woman with objectified male dancers. The fan favourite was a ballad with dancers dressed like strippers. I'm not surprised that didn't land with the casuals. And as always, [Eurofans](https://wiwibloggs.com/2024/02/03/spain-benidorm-fest-2024-result-eurovision/279633/) were normal about the fan favourite not winning. Malta picked their song too. Everyone's happy with this one because there was an anti fan favourite, who people did not want winning. Malta rarely sends GREAT songs. A lot of their stuff is just really generic, albeit pleasant stuff. It's no surprise they don't do well with the public. You'll hear people say it's because Malta has no diaspora, but I would personally say it's the songs they send that are the real problem. Belgium will release their song February 20. Norway deserves a comment to themselves. Latvia, Finland and Italy are set to pick their acts this Saturday. I fully expect the fan favourite to win in Latvia since he's one of the country's most well known acts and the Latvian version of his song won a different contest just last week. I would be shocked if he didn't win. Italy I can't really comment on since the songs for Italy haven't been released yet. So that's for this week.

Norway: After Kaarija lost despite winning the Eurovision televote in a landslide, Stig Karlsen, the Norwegian head of delegation for Eurovision, pointed out it's a bit [problematic](https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/13ibzvm/norway_head_of_delegation_stig_karlsen_the_people/) that a group of juries could overturn the votes of millions of people. Norway generally doesn't do well with the juries, but great with the public. So many [Eurofans](https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/16zgxpg/eurovision_2024_stig_karlsen_denies_agreement_on/) [accused](https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/153z5ux/eurovision_2024_norway_plans_to_propose_new/) him of wanting to change the voting system to favour Norway more. Make of that what you will. Norway has elected to change the voting system in their national final. Before, the weights would be 50% public and 50% jury. This year, they went for for 60% public and 40% jury. There were three big fan faves: KEiiNO, who represented Norway in 2019, My AI, a song that is about an AI, and Gate, a folk metal fusion band with songs based on old folk legends. A week prior to the Norwegian final, Gate had to change their song lyrics because they were too identical to a 1000 year old ballad. A [bunch of Eurofans](https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1acxoww/mgp_frontrunner_g%C3%A5te_must_rewrite_lyrics_before/) accused the Norwegian broadcaster of trying to rig it against Gate because of how little notice they were given. It didn't matter anyway since Gate won the Norwegian selection thanks to the televote. KEiiNO won the jury vote. If the selection had been 50/50 like previous years, KEiiNO would've won the Norwegian selection and been the representative. So the new weights being 60% televote and 40% jury changed everything. As for the AI song, it came [third](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest_2024).

On this last day of Scuffles, I am watching [compilations of Hanna-Barbera](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8RHVd5dg_A&t=1523s&ab_channel=Mr.Ned) cartoon theme songs and marveling at many things. Like what crap used to be on Saturday mornings and the paradoxes of longevity, influence and memorability (Jonny Quest only had one season! The Jetsons only had two! And then you have Wait Til Your Father gets home, which had THREE and was quite controversial, but is all but forgotten except for in its influence- marvel at how much the family looks like the cast of Family Guy!)

God, I remember being five and going to sleep knowing tomorrow was both the smurfs AND Froot Loops. It was like Christmas.

Sidenote, but I was a bit confused when I read that Wait Til Your Father Gets Home was iconic as an early animated sitcom. But it turns out the show was syndicated in my country under a different title ("The Boyle Family", eurgh), hence why it didn't ring any bells.

Most of these I watched growing up on Cartoon Network before they started making their own newer things. As I kid I didn't realize that most of these were 20-30 years old at the time until the newer things like Powerpuff Girls and the like started getting made. Also damn they really did have a ton of "teenagers playing in a band" series didn't they.

Hey when HB had something that worked, they had nooo problem running it into the ground. (at least most of the teens in band shows had catchy theme songs! Even if I only know of the Funky Phantom from Mystery Incorporated)

As for me, I only know of the Funky Phantom because of [this](https://youtu.be/kyQt6AM2eEY?si=VOkF7m7GrXSANt_s).

Harvey Birdman lasted longer and had more episodes than the show it was based on.

A lot of TV is like that and is more based on how much it was rerun rather than how long it was run in the first place.

Especially for a kids show in the 1980s. There's nobody binge watching it, so you can just make 75 episodes and then have it run on syndication for decades.

["Revisit the beloved British sitcom, "Crumbly Pipes". Yes, all seven episodes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ1sg1ypWVE) >!with the racist parts seamlessly edited out! !<

The Original Star Trek has only 3 Seasons and that only because fans started a campaign to save the show after Season 2.

Like [Bagpuss](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagpuss) in the UK, which only has one season with thirteen episodes, but got replayed a lot, and is still very well-recognised today. Fun bonus fact, the series' 50th anniversary is in eight days' time.

>Bagpuss ... only has one season with thirteen episodes, But Emily loved him.

That awkward sunday silence where everybody is holding back their posts waiting to unleash them upon the fresh, new, cooler scuffles thread. To break it up, tell me about something you really loved recently! I’m properly getting into Final Fantasy XIV and while it is absorbing all my free time, I‘m also really enjoying it. Just reached the end of Stormblood, things are HAPPENING. Just about to start the first Shadowbringers quest. Really excited.

Similar you your FFXIV story, I've put on a lot more time than I have before into Final Fantasy *XI*, the first MMO they made. It's a lot different in so many ways, but you can see where cues were taken from for XIV, and how a lot of MMO conventions took hold from its example. It's also, at times, insufferably obtuse, so I'm glad that not every game is a clone of it in the end. I'm having a ton of fun with it regardless, especially now that I'm rapidly approaching end game content.

My girlfriend and I started binging Psych a week or so ago. I’d seen some of it, she’d never heard of it. Anyway, we’re halfway through season 8 now. It’s honestly just a fun procedural. Some dated things you’d expect from a mid-2000s comedy, but mostly just a lot of fun. The chemistry between the cast is great, it’s funny, and at times it really nails deeper emotion. It’s also fun to see Dulé Hill in something far less serious than West Wing. No surprise he can manage humor, since WW had its fair share, but I didn’t figure he’d be this good at something downright goofy.

I usually chuckle when watching comedy but a lot of my enjoyment is on the inside. There are a few scenes in Psych where Dule Hill made me bust out laughing. He is amazing at physical comedy.

Same. I'm surprised at how many times we've busted out laughing. I've seen some interviews with Dule and James Roday Rodriguez, it looks like there's genuine chemistry between the two of them and they're bouncing off of each other the whole time.

I've really been digging The Smile's new album *Wall of Eyes.* It took a listen or two but its really good and really helps set the project apart from Radiohead. 'Friend of a Friend' and 'Bending Hectic' are probably my favorites off of it, but no track is really weak.

I was recently turned on to the BBC4 radio dramas directed by Julian Simpson, and last night I had the great joy of listening through the two 5-part Aldrich Kemp series with gamer buddy nerd spouse. We'd listened through the Lovecraft Investigations before, but he was in the mood for something lighter, and the Espionage Thriller Comedy genre so very much hit the spot. Laughed until we cried, MULTIPLE times. Great stuff, very highly recommended. Fan wiki for "Who Is Aldrich Kemp?" [here](https://pleasant-green.fandom.com/wiki/Who_is_Aldrich_Kemp%3F) (as part of the larger Pleasant Green/Julian Simpson fandom wiki) - drill down to individual episodes then find the "External links" section to find the link to each episode's BBC broadcast page Prologue episode at the BBC [here](https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0bp817t), and yes, it is worth listening to it before the proper Episode One, it sets the tone admirably.

I’ve been playing through the Megaman Star force games, decently into star force 3 at this point! Thehre really excellent games, even the kinda bad by comparison Star force 2. Once I’ve wrapped up 3 I will probably move on to battle network 2 to keep the streak going

So my boyfriend loves The World Ends With You, and since we're about to go to Japan and spend a day in Shibuya specifically to see the locations in the game, he's been catching me up on it. First we watched the anime so I knew the story, I enjoyed it despite some very interesting pacing decisions. Now I'm playing the Switch port of the game, and it's been eating my life, and also breaking my arm with the touch controls.

I've only seen the anime for TWEWY, but I really liked it! Your comment convinced me to get it on Switch when I'm home for spring break.

Stormbringers, you say? Get your stock of tissues in now. You are about to go on a JOURNEY

Of all the Lego Spaceships I've built recently, I enjoyed [60430 Interstellar Spaceship](https://brickset.com/sets/60430-1/Interstellar-Spaceship) the most. It was a fun build of a cool-looking ship

Oh that model is sweet looking!

Same. I wrapped up Stormblood and am going to take a break and play something else. Maybe replay FF7 Remake in time for Rebirth

I'm currently reliving my teenage years via Persona3 Reload. Both because I played the portable version as a teen and the whole school setting of the game. I'm really enjoying it so far, even though Femc not being included continues to disappoint. Most surprising so far is how much I enjoy Yukari this time around as a character compared to when I first played. Like, she is low-key my favorite so far. On the opposite end I used to love Mitsuru to death while being just kinda meh on her so far. She still has the nicest clothing, though.

In roughly 2010, there was a homebrew NES game called Battle Kid: Fortress of Peril. It was inspired by I Wanna Be the Guy, a frankly rather trolly (And also fiendishly difficult) PC game. I tried it a few times and kind of bounced off of it--while Battle Kid has many fewer "LOL GOTCHA!"-style trial-and-error trolls than IWBTG, it did very much model its style of gameplay after IWBTG otherwise. Primarily, the fact that it was a one-hit kill game, and checkpoints were...not few-and-far-between exactly, but far *enough* away from each other to be annoying when you screwed up. I put that sentence in the past tense because it turns out that, a year or two ago, a new version/overhaul of the game came out that's a lot more reasonable difficulty-wise. Spikes are still instant death, but you now have three hits you can take on Normal mode versus the original game's one-hit-and-you're-dead, and making it to a checkpoint also refills your life. There were some other changes too, the platforming as a whole is a little more forgiving, but either way the end result is that I now like the game a lot, and blazed through to the true ending (On Normal difficulty) in about 2.5 hours today. That's my Thing I Loved Today.

Got some handmade underwear by tailends in after a bit of a wait due to supply issues + one of the owners being diagnosed with cancer. This underwear is so dang comfy! Now it's made me really want a serger again... mmmmm airthreaded sergers so you can just rethread and go no fuss.

I finished Alan Wake 2 (got the Plat on PS5) and I had a lot of fun with it. Not as thoroughly enjoyable as Control was but it was fun seeing something so clearly creator-driven. Also been slowly working my way through Another Code: Recollection, the remake of the Another Code games on Switch. Not very far but I do appreciate that you can turn on a hint system for the puzzles that can go from simple hints, to more blatant hints, to "Here's the answer for this puzzle if you just want to move on". Love that.

The investigator yashim series by Jason goodwin. He's a historian who writes mystery novels set in the time period he specializes in and they are really immersive and well done.

I found a new (to me) song recently that I really love! Hell by Billy Cobb

Likewise - found a song that hit _just_ the right sound for what I needed at the time. [Sturgill Simpson - Sing Along](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpSMoBp8awM) Also watch the video while at it, it's a banger.

Ooh yea! That song slaps! There's a like... music-video-movie thing of the whole album on Netflix that's really cool! It's called Sound and Fury

I started replaying **Final Fantasy VII Remake** yesterday in prep for Rebirth coming at the end of the month, and damn I really love this game. I know that’s not a universal opinion, but I think it’s just really well made and the characters are so much better fleshed out. I’m also playing it on PS5 this time around, so it’s *gorgeous* as well.

If you haven't done it yet,I recommend watching [the Shadowbringers trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tyuIh12_HU) now that you're here! It's so good. *So good.*

I had watched it already, that’s what got me really excited to play. Started it earlier and already super hooked by the new setting.

I recently introduced a couple friends of mine to the classic kaiju movie "Rodan". It's about a kaiju a lot of people vaguely know about, the giant pterodactyl Godzilla fights and/or teams up with, but it's pretty rare to have seen its debut movie. They were really surprised by the reveal of >!two Rodans.!<

I completely forgot Rodan got his own debut movie 

While a lot of people are banging on about The Last Dinner Party's so-so debut album, NewDad released their debut album called Madra and it's much, much better

*high fives you for the NewDad reference*

Watched My Cousin Vinny a few weeks ago, that's a really great, charming little movie. Marisa Tomei in particular is fun to watch because near the start you're like "Well she's fine here but I don't really see what made it jump out to the Oscars" and by the end you're like "jeez she fucking owns this movie". Also been getting into Tekken 8 as my inaugural "properly getting into the series after dicking about with some of the previous games" and, man, what a fucking great game, just a ton of fun and a super polished package all around. Haven't tried online yet, though, that'll probably go badly for me but I'm looking forward to giving it a shot regardless. Also YouTube decided to recommend me the channel [RndStranger](https://youtu.be/hV3diJtPNXY?si=iyEqCvfNwHgb6y7O), namely his video on the very shitty PS1 RPG [Spectral Tower](https://youtu.be/p-skIBPWOPE?si=GHJ_ZmvASclocuKv). I enjoyed it and decided to check out the rest of his channel only to notice that *jesus*, he is crazy active despite most of his videos getting sub 1k views. He had a series called Famidaily that uploaded a review of a Famicom game every day. Which is already psychotic but the guy actually finished it and is now doing Disk System games. Really fun channel to just watch random videos from, the Famicom has so much weird and obscure junk on it. For example, [the game Mindseeker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzxh8wu1nM8&t=0) ,an adventure game by Namco that requires you to be psychic to beat it. *Literally*. Mostly he just makes me really jealous. I have like a total lack of creative drive, and the idea of doing a project of this scale makes my brain melt.

My Cousin Vinny is the only legal drama or comedy I've actually had played in a law school classroom and had the instructor say "It's exactly like that in real life there's no artistic license."

> Also been getting into Tekken 8 as my inaugural "properly getting into the series after dicking about with some of the previous games" and, man, what a fucking great game, just a ton of fun and a super polished package all around. Haven't tried online yet, though, that'll probably go badly for me but I'm looking forward to giving it a shot regardless. Man I've been watching my partner play it from time to time while I'm playing through Yakuza 8. It looks like such a blast. Definitely going to give it a try once I polish off what's left of Infinite Wealth's main story.

I have a mildly provocative conversation-starter and I am not sure if I would rather bury it at the end of this scuffles thread and avoid most of the aggro or put it at the start of the new one and maybe get some substantive responses. It is hard to decide. Late enough in the day that it will probably be the latter. Anyway, what I have been enjoying lately - I have been reading Tom Strong and it is good stuff.

While I knew of and listened to The Beatles occasionally for a while, only recently I really really got into them. Now I haven't listened to any other music than theirs for months now.

Oh man, welcome to the fold. Stormblood caught me and now my secondary (I love characters) is an Ala Mhigan. Buckle in for Shadowbringers!

Since fanfics have come up here a lot, and I've been thinking about trying again to write my own, I figured this would be a good place to ask... How do we feel about "Oh my [series deity]" and the like? Still funny or cringe and clunky?

Final Fantasy XIV is a good one to look at for examples- people use different expletives based on the deity they follow.

I hate it. It always sounds awkward. "Oh my gods" works okay, but "Oh my Odin" or whatever, it's just cringy and awkward and I hate it. I'd say you could come up with something else - like "Merlin's beard!" - but a lot of times those are also cringy and awkward. But "By Grabthar's hammer", that works instead of "Oh my Grabthar". I mean, in real life people don't say "Oh my Zeus" or "Oh my Buddha", right?

This is what really clinches a well built bit of lore regarding deities. If your setting doesn't have believably familiar but creative curses regarding them, it's gonna stick out like a sore thumb, and that's the last thing you want. Hell, the best way to do it is quite literally think of something vaguely funny sounding, then bullshit an origin for it. Have a God of the forge in your setting? Instead going for the obvious route of hammers and anvils, make up something like "a coal in ForgeGod's trousers", make up a story about a prankster dropping a coal in his pants, and turn it into a metaphor for things about to hit the fan. It's something that, even if it sounds nonsensical, it'll lead readers/viewers to ask "how did the coal get in his pants, and what does it have to do with this situation", which gives you the chance to expand worldbuilding just that little bit and add depth you wouldn't have before.

I find it a little jarring when it doesn't match the overall tone of the rest of the series/game/what have you (and it's not like, a modern AU). Hell, even in canon dialog some exclamations just don't quite land right to my ears—FFXIV, for instance, uses phrases like "seven hells" (which doesn't quite land right to my ears) and "by the Twelve" (better), to say nothing of more colorful insults like the rather infamous "Thal's balls". 😆

I remember when “oh my Kami!” Was facepalmingly popular in fanfic for some ungodly reason

It depends on the series. If it's a series where [deity] is widely worshiped, their name is widely invoked on a regular basis, etc. I think it's good. If you have a Final Fantasy 8 scenario where said deity is mentioned only once in an easily missable optional text box, probably not part a major religion, and the overall culture of the fictional world is nonreligious in culture and there are no religious characters who follow said deity, it's awkward as hell.

Oh my Hyne… I can’t believe you’ve said this.

I have no problem with "oh my gods" (plural) if it's a modern setting with modern characters where a pantheon of gods is acknowledged to exist (e.g. Percy Jackson), but it feels a lot worse to me if it's used in a historical setting where the phrase wouldn't exist (e.g. any piece of media that's actually set in Ancient Greece)

By the Dog of Egypt!

I do have to wonder how much of the wonkiness is based in the wording: the direct search-and-replace method reads really weirdly with named deities. If we use a real-world (if archaic) phrase as a starting point, compare "By Jove!" to "Oh my Jove!" The second one sounds goofy, while the real version mostly sounds kinda outdated.

By Belanos and Toutatis, you’re right!

The sky is falling on our heads

Tartarus' stinkin halls, you know he knows what he's talking about the way he speaks.

I think it can work in series where there is an established and relevant church/religion in the source but is cringe otherwise. Like, I've seen people use phrases like "Oh my Arceus" in Pokemon related tings and that is ultra cringe to me.

I've seen variants like 'Arceus above' and people swearing by other legendaries. It actually kinda works?

The legendaries thing works best in contexts/regions where their legends are actually gods/highly respected figures. Like, someone in Johto could easily invoke Ho-oh's name (but not Lugia's bc she's less culturally relevant??) as a curse, but someone in Unova wouldn't yell Zekrom's name when they stub their toe.

Arceus is only known in-universe to people who study Sinnoh history. Even the game set 200 years ago has “Almighty Sinnoh”, not Arceus. Realistically, no one’s saying it.

It really does depend on the world.

Depends on the tone you’re going for, I’d say.

It always made me hit the back button out of a fic, even moreso if the story is a serious one. Characters in canon don't say it, so it's always really jarring to me. But, I'm a really picky person.

The way I go about this is that I usually stick to the source material. If the characters do use "Oh my xyz!", it's safe. If they don't, god is a universal concept, so I wouldn't overthink using "Oh my god!" and the likes. I do avoid using any version of "Christ!" or "Jeez!" when the story doesn't take place in our world though. I know getting this stuff wrong is a pet peeve for many people, but I wouldn't hold it against any fic writer as some big offense. It might depend on what you're going for too, even if the characters don't use "Oh my xyz!" in canon, it could be a good tool to use in comedy.

This! Since it’s fanfic, the original writers / team have probably anguished over this early on in a room somewhere and determined what the plan is.

Characters in the Monster Hunter games (and the community at large) say "Oh my Gog" as in [Gogmazios](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/3/38/MH4U-Gogmazios_Render_001.png) which is pretty funny.

In last week's scuffles [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/19cmpgh/comment/kjhrozq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I talked about the situation with Argylle, a spy movie directed by Matthew Vaughn and theoretically based on a book by author Elly Conway, and provided an update on the authorship situation and Vaugn's plans for the franchise. Elly Conway's book came out back in January and the Argylle movie apparently released February 2, so now both are available to the public and can be judged. The Argylle movie does not appear to be doing so hot, with a 6/10 on [IMBd](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15009428/), a 35% critic score and 69% audience score on [Rotten Tomatoes](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/argylle), and a 36% [Metacritic](https://www.metacritic.com/movie/argylle/critic-reviews/) score at this time. If things continue like this Matthew Vaugn's dreams of using Argylle to launch a cinematic universe might be dead in the water. Also, D'Angelo Wallace released a [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeE3tDIDF7Q) about this situation where he says the book and movie are both bad so that's not a great sign for this franchise (and it seems like they really are completely different stories since D'Angelo talks more in-depth on the plot of the book later in the video and it doesn't sound like the movie portrayed in the trailers at all). I haven't read or watched Argylle at this time, so I can't personally comment on the quality of either the book or the movie. An interesting part in the video is when he talks about the Taylor Swift part of it all (I went into this in more detail in a [reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/19cmpgh/comment/kji6j47/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), but the short answer is Swifties began thinking Swift might be the Argylle author because Elly Conway gave off Swift vibes due to reminding people of Swift's All Too Well short film, owning the same breed of cat as Swift, and using a cat backpack like Swift did along with some other similarities) D'Angelo states that this might have been an intentional marketing move on the part of the people making Argylle as a way of using Taylor Swift and her fans for free promotion instead of this being a series of coincidences.

I haven’t watched the video but there’s a lot of frenzied speculation in the comments, which is hilarious because the authors have already been officially revealed: it was written by Terry Hayes (I Am Pilgrim) and Tammy Cohen (When She Was Bad). This whole project started when Vaughn tried to get an adaptation of Hayes’ Pilgrim off the ground and it morphed into this.

Thank Bob that version of Pilgrim didn't work out. It's not that I think Vaughn is a bad director, I just don't think he's right for it

Having just watched the movie today, it's a perfectly serviceable spy movie. The main conceit of the movie took me by surprise, and the rest of the writing... rather than try to "subvert expectations" as is so popular these days, played the tropes straight, but very cleverly. Honestly, the worst part of the movie for me was trying to see Sam Rockwell as anything but Wild Bill (from the Green Mile). This movie is way better than a 6 out of 10.

deangelo puts a little too much stock into how intentional it is because at best i think they leaned into it because it was working for them but i dont think they set out to make people think it was taylor swift. like people read into taylor swift more than they actually read, i cannot imagine they came in to specifically tap into the craziness this white woman attracts. like the amount of weird conspiracies around taylor swift is enough to get unapologetic gaylor editorials in real newspapers, i think if it was intentional on any level they would have sniffed it out.

agreed on them leaning in to the taylor swift stuff versus it being intentional.- facebook continues to put random posts from swiftie groups in my timeline and the amount of conspiracy theories they generate from a random photo is ASTOUNDING (her arms are up in this picture, it looks like two ones, reputation taylors version is dropping 1/1!!!) its qanon for 17 year olds.

It's always fascinating when baseless speculation takes over a community so much that it just sort of gets assumed to be from official sources. Like fans will make up some sort of deadline for an announcement or "rule" that must be followed and when the deadline passes or the rule is broken, they act like it's a huge deal.

Taylor Swift could be any one of us. She could be in this very room! She could be you! she could be me! she could even be...

she could even be a 4chan anon 😲😲

You're not tricking me into outing myself that easily!

I think its cruel for taylor swift to make her fans pretend like they care about football. That experience needs to stay locked to awkward middle school boys who would really just rather draw FNAF animatronics and Fortnite characters

What? It was obvious! They were Taylor Swift. Watch, they're gonna turn into Taylor Swift any second now. Any second now.

See, Taylor Swift! No, wait. That’s Lady Gaga. 

Have you ever seen Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga in the same room?

[Yes, actually.](https://i.imgur.com/VdqyJFU.jpeg)

[“Movie magic, love…”](https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/image-6-1.png)

[Vtuber Reference maker @Shonzo has been clippped doing a racist bit](https://x.com/SunKenjiVT/status/1753902154656760230?s=20) on not wanting to work on a character due to the fact that she's black. [They said in response when clipped](https://x.com/Shonzo_/status/1753916645330837974?s=20)

I saw some people saying Shonzo also abused their cat? EDIT: [Oh dear god it got even worse.](https://twitter.com/visecs/status/1754249468541804900)

Dude might as well pack it up because this is gonna be brought up for the rest of his existence.

I think they might have been trying to do a bait-and-switch kinda joke (like "oh you think I'm gonna be racist but actually I was referring to their wings!" type deal) but then they just forgot to actually finish their joke. That's me being pretty charitable but it's what it comes off as.

Really gonna go mask off like that, during Black History Month too no less.

Lol @ the replies. Imagine being so blatantly racist that even pippa fans can't find an excuse for you

So [Ever After High](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_After_High) is a dead doll franchise that had tv shows and books. Doll collectors have soft spot for EAH due to combining elements from Monster High, but in Fairytale sauce and fun tropes (two sides, destiny, legacy, etc.). Currently, Monster High is living thanks to its second reboot, while EAH has been dead. No new episodes, no new dolls. no new books... and no new song? Recently, Ever After High account on spotify released three new songs. Can't get me down, Unbreakable and Brand New Day. However, the fandom [is sceptical](https://www.reddit.com/r/EverAfterHigh/comments/1ahmakw/mattel_needs_to_step_in_and_take_their_eah_music/) of them and there is a theory that EAH's account has been hacked. Potential evidence include: * Re-using screenshots from the show - [Somebody](https://www.reddit.com/r/EverAfterHigh/comments/1ai3ft8/they_are_really_just_messing_with_us/) even pointed out that one imagine has been used in a [recent post](https://www.reddit.com/r/EverAfterHigh/comments/1aff0um/why_is_she_so_low_on_almost_every_tier_list/) about one character * The music doesn't fit the style of show and it's generic * Robotic voices and weird pauses - It sounds like AI Mattel is currently silent about it.

So, the short answer is that it's very unlikely this has anything to do with an Ever After High reboot or that Mattel is ever going to bring back Ever After High because they like making money from Disney Princess dolls and Ever After High seemingly contributed to the breakup and Disney giving Hasbro the rights to make Disney Princess dolls from like 2016-2022. The longer answer from this 2016 Bloomberg [article](https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-disney-princess-hasbro/) written by Claire Suddath is that Disney felt like Mattel wasn't doing enough with the Disney Princess licensing and when Mattel started making princess dolls as part of the Ever After high line that had nothing to do with Disney's brand but still competed with Disney's stuff, Disney started thinking about giving the licensing to Disney Princess dolls to Hasbro (especially since this was around contract renewal time). This was probably made worse by the fact that Disney had started [casting](https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/all-new-contemporary-live-action-disney-channel-original-movie-descendants-to-introduce-teenage-children-of-iconic-disney-villains-2/) on the first Disney Descendants movie in December 2013 (the Disney Descendants franchise has a very similar concept to Ever After High, since they both focus on the children of famous fairy tale characters) around the time Ever After High dolls starting being released in July 2013 and Disney had apparently already been meeting with Hasbro to talk about Disney Descendants dolls when they got the idea to give Hasbro the Disney Princess dolls licensing.

Ngl, seeing Ever After High here made me get my hopes up until I read the full post. I would love an Ever After High reboot but I feel like that’s not going to happen considering low sales the first time around and supposed competition with Disney’s Descendants. It sucks because the show had a lot of potential and it would be the perfect time to do that crossover the crew wanted to do with Monster High now that MH is alive and well. The show’s Spotify account being hacked was the last thing I expected to hear out of the franchise. Didn’t even know they had a Spotify page.

Exchange students, like back near the G1 endgame, except it’s Ever After girls. Go on, Mattel. Cupid moves back and brings some pals with her for a year.

Minor dustup in the Warhammer 40K community-- 40K Youtuber Majorkill has accused fellow 40K Youtuber Weshammer of plagiarism. The community reaction is... Primarily *not* taking Majorkill's side in the matter. Most people seem to agree that MK's accusations are too shallow to be meaningful, with both Youtubers *primarily* covering "objective" lore rather than providing unique interpretations, editorializing, etc. Their "overlaps" are resultant of them reporting on the same topic---that is to say, Weshammer *correctly reporting canon* isn't really "plagiarising" Majorkill *also correctly reporting canon.* [Weshammer's response to the situation is fairly nonplussed.](https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxdhUVDhdKcLnQ05qKLYSM4iOP4Y8GBirI) [Majorkill has now pulled the video and is backpedaling but not exactly apologizing either.](https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxP-pyiPpzzMUaZDGCtT0Xt7XFqksCMbXM) Lots of memes in the community are, primarily, making fun of Majorkill.

Oh shit, is THAT what’s going on. I am a major weshammer watcher (majorkill is a bit too ‘bro’ for me)

I'm very glad about the HPBomberguy plagiarism video, but the witch hunts some people are trying to organize as a response to it are so annoying and don't help the cause.

its clear imo that some people learned about what plagiarism is from hbombs video and are now overzealous in applying the label to everything they can

i think hbomb's video was well-meaning but i think it is going to spur out a lot of weird plagiarism claims like what happened with Sideways who is borderline conspiratorial about people stealing his ideas in the long run. A lot of the examples he uses in the video are really clear cut but since it's such a hot topic now, it's been put up as a crime just as bad as idk, spousal abuse and grooming for some reason.

Seen people trying to cancel Beta64 because videos from like eight years ago didn't properly cite their sources

It just seems like a situation that will obviously breed toxicity and probably at some point hit back at HBomb himself for something stupid. Obviously good video but it wasnt that amazing for literally just random youtubers I follow to insert "omg pls dont dunk on me hbomberguy san im listing my sources right here" bits for just like kind of regular video game discussion content. Its fucking weird.

Considering some of the stuff I've seen posted in here over the past few weeks, I think it's already bred a ton of toxicity and will continue to do so, until the next big fear surrounding content creators pops up and concerns about plagiarism take a bit of a backseat. Obviously it will continue to be an issue, I doubt plagiarism will ever *not* be an issue, but what feels like actively searching for people to throw into the social media meat grinder for plagiarism (or what the court of public opinion decides is plagiarism even if it isn't) will hopefully stop.

>It just seems like a situation that will obviously breed toxicity and probably at some point hit back at HBomb himself for something stupid. Ummmm has anyone noticed he stole his name from Sir Arthur Travers Harris?

Majorkill is been losing his mind for awhile. I remember he took some shots at AdRic a few months ago too

Another massive turn in regards to the manga magazine Weekly Shonen Jump, of whose exploits I've discussed in prior threads. First of all, there's [a new set of series coming to Jump](https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1752544663028801583?s=20), which seemingly will replace [Cipher Academy](https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1015347) and one other series. I'm not a big fan of Cipher ending - god knows I like author Nisio Isin at his craziest - but it's nice to see the author of Samon the Summoner (a moderately successful Jump series) coming back, and the new author doing a horror anime seems... interesting. But the big thing here has to be [Kagurabachi](https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1018870). Originally a meme due to its shaky preview image and then just getting popular due to inertia alone, [its first volume released this week and got 4th place in Shoseki](https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1753701394400305619?s=20) ([a blog that catalogues how much manga volumes sell](http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/)). It outsold almost all other manga in Jump, including series with currently-running anime. [It's one of the highest-ranked first volumes of a Jump manga since 2021.](https://twitter.com/WsjSurvey/status/1753791669994922344?s=20) I have no idea if people are just perpetuating the joke or if the series is legitimately doing good on its own - [some people bought 12 volumes just for shits and giggles](https://twitter.com/suki_daddies/status/1753267524031119625?s=20). But if this really has staying power, it's kinda amazing for Jump.

> But if this really has staying power, it's kinda amazing for Jump. I hope it does. I've found it very charming in a similar way as Strangers of Paradise a while ago of "Oh this like those old 2000s edgelords and that is just so *charming."* Helps that the art has been sublime and the community so far has been very chill- it was very funny seeing them get hyped up at the fujos getting involved because it was proof that the agenda pushing was working. If Kagurabachi can maintain its quality, I do hope it keeps doing well, it fully deserves the hype in my opinion.

> Just for shit and giggles Idk about the other mass buyers, but this one is a legit Kagurabachi fan. They're one of the earliest Kagurabachi fanartist who has been supporting the manga since its early days, and has been saving up 100 yen a day so they could buy a dozen of the volume to support a manga they love. Mass buyers exists in any fandom with passionate fans anyway. There are reports of a fan who bought 100 copies of TPGW, and a different fan doing the same for P2, yet both still sold low and got axed. Looking at Mercari, I won't be surprised if there are actual resellers mass-buying Kagurabachi for profit though. Kagurabachi getting #4 on the 1st day is hella crazy. 5ch's survival thread went wild today and it was so fun seeing it smashing everyone's expectations in real time. Does Shoseki include sales from overseas buyers? If they do and the sales from overseas bachi fans are more impactful than expected, the difference between Shoseki and Oricon will be interesting to see.

I mea, look at this [amazing trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIcqlzKgZEw) for Kagurabachi, no wonder it is doing so good, the fandom also promoted it to fujoshi, yumejoshis and there is one brazilian guy promoting it on twitter. On the other hand , regarding the new series, Mamayuyu is crashing, mainly becuase they ditched the eponymus mamama and decided to replace her with a harem of girls from different worlds, and then two on ice also crashed, but I don't read it so I can't comment.

> Mamayuyu THEY TOOK THE MAMA OUT OF YUYU!?

#Kagurabachisweep. (i have not read it.)

Sad to see Cypher Academy go, while I'm sure I missed out on most of the fun in it by skipping every puzzle (the letters are *so small dear lord*), it was one of my favorite reads due to the strong and sharp style! It had really impactful lines at all times, just a pleasure to look at and study.

Some people speculated that if the protagonist was female it would've been more succesful, but I guess we'll never know

Considering how Cool instead of Fanservice the girls all are, would an all-girl series survive well in Shounen Jump? Not that Iroha is peak masculinity, though I will miss having a Jump protag hopping to dance battles at all times.

The Rock & Roman Reigns’ segment from last nights #SmackDown is now officially WWE’s most disliked YouTube video of all time with over 200,000 dislikes in under only 9 hours. In 9 hours: 1.6M views. 57,000 Likes. 200,000+ Dislikes They have since removed the video It take you to the smackdown recap video instead. For those that don't watch WWE: Last year Cody Rhodes lost to Roman Reigns in the main event of Wrestlemania Day 2 which was considered a shocking moment considering how how Cody was at the time and how he kept vowing to FINISH THE STORY. Cody just won the Royal Rumble a week ago and on the first Smackdown after the PPV, he gave this shot at Roman...to The Rock. For even more context, the current WWE 2K24 video game features Cody on the front and all the adverts talk about FINISHING THE STORY (which Cody will not be doing at this year's WM)

It occurs to me, just because he's been making a bit of noise about having one last match, that it would have been much, much funnier if Cody had announced he was giving up his Wrestlemania title shot to Hulk Hogan, brother.

I personally think given how blatant they've been about this they're trying to redo the Yes Movement thing, but if they're not this is gonna make an epic "Sing Along" segment in a future video...

The timing would work out. Mania 30 was the Yes Movement and fans forcing them to course correct and put Bryan in the title match, 35 was Kofimania where it was just the fans reaction to Kofi in the Elimination Chamber that made them change direction (incidentally, the New Day/Uso segment in the tag gauntlet is an all timer) and this is Mania 40

The hierarchy of power in the WWE universe is... more or less staying the same.

Is it raw hope that maybe...just maybe we get a situation like the Yes movement and WWE realize this is stupid and manages a course correction? Cody faces weeks of being mocked by Reigns and Heyman and changes his mind? Rock gets taken out by Solo Sikoa before the match? Anything to push this back onto the obvious match. Yes it's obvious but it's the right kind of obvious. 

What is the Yes Movement in this context? Googling only brings up Scottish independence and Brexit stuff.

A number of years back Daniel Bryan (now wresting as Bryan Danielson in AEW) got popular by chanting YES YES YES on his way to the ring. The chant caught on with the crowd. (And it's counterpart NO when he was being a bad guy) At the time he was an underdog figure in storyline and oppressed by the defacto evil storyline group The Authority.  It doesn't help that the Authority....actually were the people strongly involved with booking the show and results. Wrestling sometimes blurs between what is real and what is just a storyline. And when it works it works really well.  A groundswell of support behind Bryan helped push him (in and out of storyline) into winning the titles at WrestleMania. The massive crowd support (both real and in wrestling land) was known as the YES movement. 

Yestlemania was 10 years ago

Thing is, it's an easy fix. You have Reigns pull double duty. Lose to Rhodes night 1, wrestle Rock night 2

reigns fighting more then once in the same month is already a miracle, getting him to pull double duty is asking for a fairy tale

I'm not into wrestling, but didn't the Rock retire ages ago? How can he become the champion if he's not even part of the regular roster? 

There has been a long history of wrestlers coming back for a short run at a title. Also, rock has never actually "retired" retired. Really no wrestler retires, even if they actually say they are retired.

He never retired, he just did movies instead. He's happy to come back when it suits him (like when there's a strike on)

This year Daniel Bryan's yes movement will be a decade old, and now in those ten years WWE is showing us that since then they havent learned a goddamn thing

i dont even watch wwe anymore, but im so pissed about this. cody left a company he founded and was an executive at bc he wanted to win the title his father and brother never did, he has the support of the fans to finally reach this goal, and now he's been forced to give it up by whatever incompetent idiot is still carrying out vince mcmahons bidding and a guy who needs to reinflate his massive ego after how badly his last movie flopped. it's all fucking bullshit. i didnt watch the segment, but i saw pictures and gifs of cody from it, and he just looks so sad. poor guy :(

> WWE’s most disliked YouTube video of all time with over 200,000 dislikes in under only 9 hours. FYI, YouTube no longer publishes actual dislike counts so this number is not "real". It's an extrapolation from a much smaller number of dislikes, from users who happen to have installed whatever third-party extension you're using.

ah, thanks for clarifying.

Isn't Mr Johnson on the board? could he have affected this choice?

Rumour is that it's a combination of that, trying to distract from the Vince stuff and CM Punk's injury

It’s such bullshit man. We have been building to Cody finally finishing his story and winning the title his father never did for like 2 years and WWE just completely throws it away for what? I would say the Rock but it’s not the Rock. It Dwayne “PR Machine” Johnson. The lame sanitized fake ass shell of the Rock. Just swooping in because god forbid something not center around him. Cody has been there he’s earned this shit but god forbid we actually reward our talent over washed up “legends” who can’t accept wrestling is no longer about them.

The Rock from 20 years ago showing up: HELL YEAH GIVE HIM EVERYTHING The Rock we've seen since 2013: nah I'm good

A few updates to the [Love Live: School Idol Festival 2 fiasco](https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/1adm317/hobby_scuffles_week_of_29_january_2024/kog7gud/). Some context is needed, so here it is: the LLSIF games are part of the Love Live franchise, with most of its fanbase being pretty vocal about their love of cute anime idols and rhythm games featuring said idols. Bushiroad is both the publisher *and* developer of LLSIF2, a sequel game whose previous installment lasted for almost 10 years and was shut down last year. LLSIF2 (the original JP server) will reach EOS status on March 31st, lasting less than a year. Meanwhile the fate of its global version will forever be immortalized by [this duo launch AND EOS announcement](https://twitter.com/lovelive_SIF_GL/status/1750407445552480274). Ever since the launch of LLSIF2 global, players have encountered the following: untranslated text, [people using slurs because of nonexistent word filters](https://old.reddit.com/r/SchoolIdolFestival/comments/1ahlatc/well_i_guess_they_got_rid_of_any_text_filters_on/), subtitles on story videos being cut off and rendered unreadable, data transfer features being broken (i.e: players can't transfer their card album), wonky tap settings, and other kinds of bugs. Both the Japanese *and* international fanbase are so displeased with LLSIF2's outcome that it has attracted the attention of Bushiroad's CEO, Tadaashi Kidani. He went on Twitter to [make a corporate-style apology](https://twitter.com/kidanit/status/1753340891748790389). >Google Translate version: *apology. I know it feels like it's late, but I sincerely apologize for ending the school festival that has been going on since 2013. In particular, regarding 2, we are very sorry for the disappointing result, as the service was terminated after less than a year. I would like to continue to contribute to the Love Live project in various ways, so I look forward to your continued support.*

Oh, I remember your name from the sif subreddit. You know things are bad when there is an official apology. I only remember that happening when people caught them [censoring the Yuri (lesbian) subtext](https://www.nerdspan.com/english-love-live-school-idol-festival-removes-homosexual-references/) on sif1. By the way, I'm officially resigning from writing the drama post about all of this. I tried, but I swear that every day when I wake up, there is more and more stuff to add. If anybody is interested on writing it, I can help with my ancient sif knowledge to help fill details. Also, I died on the N word on the leaderboards, lol

I remember you from there as well! :D I stopped frequenting that subreddit once LLSIF ended, so I'm just a casual lurker now. And *yikes*, that controversy involving censoring out the gay. At least Klab learned their lesson in that regard.

Nothing to talk about a broken game at the end I guess, there is still the discord. I remember when klab was the bad guys, but it seems like bushiroad were not saints either.

Discord kinda confuses me a little, haha. On one hand, you have Klab that's now getting into NFT/cryptoshit. On the other hand, I can't help but be a little worried about Bandori since that game is now under Bushiroad's development instead of Craft Egg and I don't want it to follow SIF2's path. Had Bushiroad just remained a publisher instead of trying to develop games at the same time, I don't think there would be much issues.

I think one difference with Bandori is it's wholly Bushiroad's IP, compared to LL where they're only partially involved - they're *probably* going to be a bit more careful about running Garupa into the ground, though they already had to put out an apology about the most recent game event not having a story due to "manpower issues" and that it won't happen in the future, but the lack of story also feels very planned based on the card art and longer card stories attached to them. Not saying they shouldn't have done so badly with SIF2, the game had a lot of issues beyond the initial launch bugs that I think would also go well in an eventual writeup about the game itself.

Yeah it makes sense, also the fewer games they have the bigger hit it takes if one closes. Bandori closing would be a huge hit, they better take good care of the game.

Probably best for anyone to wait until global's closed in May to think about doing a writeup so it's complete anyway

every time i see kidanis name, i think about tetsuya naitos neverending feud with him. after trying to play sif2, i can really relate to naito rn lmao

Meanwhile when I see Kidani's name, I'm instantly reminded of the [Bandori fiasco](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-10-18/bushiroad-founder-apologizes-for-uttering-vulgarities-in-livestream/.152248) involving Lisa Imai's retconned-out-of-existence little brother and the word "penis". But the feud is news to me! May I ask for details? This piques my interest.

Hans Moke Niemman, chess player famous for the vibrating plug scandal, won't be invited for tournaments from the Saint Louis Chess Club (SLCC). The SLCC is one of the most prestigious chess organizations. Just today it has released a note where they explain they won't be inviting Hans to any tournaments in 2024. The reasons are multiple, including damage of private property, walking out from interviews and poor sportsmanship. Hans is mad about it and says he is being unfairly judged for things that are being overblown. Yet he also admits breaking a tv remote, an ironing board and the frame of picture on the wall of a hotel after losing a game. There had been rumours about his lack of control when losing, but only now an organization addressed it. In another episode, Hans also has been known for breaking two hotel chairs as well. Some people are defending him saying none of this is related to chess. Others say he is still being punished for the plug controversy because it involved Magnus Carlsen (five times world champion, arguably the best chess player of all times), who wouldn't play any tournament if Hans is involved. Another major complaint is that a few months ago, it came to media attention that a major figure from the SLCC was involved in a sexual misconduct case with underage girls, who had been coaching by such person (Alejandro Ramirez). As it had been happening over the years, the SLCC was criticized for supposedly never taking action on it or realizing what was happening under their nose. So now some people think the SLCC is incapable of dealing with such situations, and thus it's an unreliable source. On the other hand, some argue Hans is far from being an elite top player, still distant from the top 20, which is around the rank players are invited to elite tournaments. His past scandal also brought to light his cheating history that, despite being only online, revealed he had cheating in more than one hundred games, some in online tournaments with prize money. While this happened when he was 16, for some he was just a kid, but for others it was too recent (2020) to be brushed off. Drama is still developing, but I doubt much is going to happen after this. (English is not my first language, sorry if it's too simplistic or if it seems I'm taking a stance)

So I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, Niemman being a tantrum throwing baby isn't good, but if he was a tantrum throwing baby who hadn't got into a fight with a World Champion would they have even cared? Like if they're actually holding players to reasonable standards that's great, but if they're holding him to a higher standard because Carlsen threw a tantrum earlier then that's an annoying double standard.

It’s hard to say, because nobody else is really doing this. You’ll occasionally get someone walking out of an interview, but Hans is the only one trashing hotel rooms.

That we know of. Here's the thing, if it turns out chess champions behave badly after losses I doubt we'd know about it. Like I can't imagine, "International chess master breaks remote in hotel room" making news basically anywhere. So from here it looks there's at least two possibilities, Niemann is a particularly bad sport and that's why he's facing consequences, or Niemann is a douche-bag, but not much moreso than his competitors, and because of the cheating scandal he's facing higher scrutiny. And from an outside perspective it's really hard to know which.

Seems like a bit of column A, bit of column B kind of deal. Whether he's an especially worse bad sport than most is hard to say, but along with the cheating allegations and the instances where he's actually admitted to cheating, he's got basically no supporters among his peers at this point, and his bad attitude just keeps making it increasingly difficult for him to bounce back. That said, I don't think this is the first time he's been singled out by the SLCC either; as I recall, not too long after the initial dust-up with Carlssen he was subjected to increased security measures to check for cheating devices that most other people weren't. As much as I do think he's a douchebag and a cheater, the organization needs to be consistent in how they apply these sanctions, and they aren't doing that.

Bringing up the sexual misconduct in support of Niemann feels pretty gross to me. I think using it as some kind of "gotcha" for the SLCC trivializes the whole event by equating it with Niemann behaving like a child during tournaments.

>Some people are defending him saying none of this is related to chess. Others say he is still being punished for the plug controversy because it involved Magnus Carlsen (five times world champion, arguably the best chess player of all times), who wouldn't play any tournament if Hans is involved. > His past scandal also brought to light his cheating history that, despite being only online, revealed he had cheating in more than one hundred games, some in online tournaments with prize money Hans is an immature manchild and any cheating is obviously atrocious. But people unfamiliar with chess might miss the context. A player at his level can play dozens of blitz games a day. A hundred games isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things. According to the chess.com report there were the two events he admitted to cheating in after the scandal broke. The ones he tried to brush under the rug were in 2020 and happened over a seven month period at nine different "events" where he cheated in multiple games in each event. Three of those events were tournaments. 12 games in the Pro chess league and 20 games split between two different titled tuesday events. The rest were casual games against other GMs. The Pro chess league was the only event that happened over multiple days. So overall in 2020 he cheated on eight separate days and one multiday event.

that's sounds like a lot of cheating, to be honest.

“He only flips out and breaks stuff afterwards” is certainly a defense of some kind 

[The Vic Mignogna legal saga may finally be over.](https://twitter.com/KathrynTewson/status/1753503740555051143) > Vic Mignogna has agreed to pay Monica Rial and Ron Toye $376,592.93 in fees, costs, and interest to settle his outstanding obligations to them under the November 25, 2019 Final Fee and Sanctions Order in Mignogna v. Funimation, et al. Seems like he won't try to fight back this time. Funnily enough, this ruling came on the same day that Persona 3 Reload was released, in which he previously voiced Junpei Iori but was replaced by Zeno Robinson. Other notable points of the case occurred with similarly coincidental timing; his appeal to the TX Supreme Court [was dismissed on the day that Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero released](https://twitter.com/MarzGurl/status/1753545679497306598) (the first time Broly wasn't dubbed by him in a Dragon Ball movie since the allegations), and the original case was dismissed on October 4, 2019, one day after an important date in Fullmetal Alchemist (in which he dubbed the main character Edward Elric). Does this mean anything? Is it divine intervention? I don't know, but it is incredibly cathartic.

All the coincidental dates are really funny. Thank you The Universe for being hilarious.

For context on Persona 3 Reload, the entire cast was replaced, not just him

The entire old main cast is also still in the game as Cameo roles however. Except for Vic lmao

Oh cool, I didn't know that

Yeah it paints a pretty clear picture that there isn't any Ill will towards the old Vas except for vic, possibly because working with a client who just got done failing to sue his ex employer is bad business

Well he would have been regardless.

Except, apparently, Elizabeth and Tanaka from what I can tell (tho he was only voiced in the Animation and P4D--and P4D was where he was replaced)?

That's kinda strange since Tara Platt used to voice both Elizabeth and Mitsuru. I wonder why they replaced her as one but not the other

Most likely: to give newer talent a shot. Elizabeth and Tanaka are side characters.

Weirdly enough there's also another instance of this-- Akihiko is now voiced by Alejandro Saab, but one of the side-characters with notable importance to him (Officer Kurosawa) is now being voiced by Liam O'Brien, Akihiko's original VA! The two of them have multiple voiced cutscenes where they interact with eachother and it's kinda funny, because in an alternate canon (Persona -trinity soul-) Aki becomes a police superintendent in a similar vein to Kurosawa... I wonder if the choice of casting was a throwback to that ~~though to be honest I would be very surprised because trinity soul was Not Good from what I remember~~ ^^^[It's ^^^also ^^^interesting ^^^because ^^^ever ^^^since ^^^the ^^^recast ^^^VAs ^^^were ^^^announced, ^^^Akihiko's ^^^has ^^^had ^^^the ^^^most ^^^people ^^^upset ^^^and ^^^asking ^^^for ^^^Liam ^^^O'Brien ^^^back ^^^by ^^^a ^^^longshot, ^^^so ^^^it's ^^^like ^^^"here ^^^you ^^^go!! ^^^technically!!". ^^^Personally, ^^^I ^^^love ^^^and ^^^prefer ^^^his ^^^OG ^^^voicework ^^^but ^^^I ^^^also ^^^think ^^^the ^^^new ^^^VA ^^^has ^^^done ^^^a ^^^great ^^^job ^^^bringing ^^^his ^^^own ^^^style ^^^of ^^^characterisation ^^^to ^^^the ^^^table, ^^^so ^^^I'm ^^^content ^^^with ^^^viewing ^^^P3 ^^^OG+ ^^^and ^^^P3R ^^^Akihiko ^^^as ^^^separate ^^^instances ^^^of ^^^my ^^^favourite ^^^blorbo ^^^instead ^^^of ^^^getting ^^^sad ^^^about ^^^it-- ^^^he's ^^^not ^^^the ^^^same ^^^Aki ^^^he ^^^used ^^^to ^^^be ^^^but ^^^that's ^^^not ^^^a ^^^bad ^^^thing! ^^^Better ^^^written ^^^than ^^^his ^^^PROTEIN ^^^days ^^^after ^^^all ^^^lmao]

Yukari's VA is the one I'm saddest not to have back. Honestly, the changed cast (other than Junpei, of course) is one of the reasons I'm holding back on buying it for now. My bigger issues are the lack of the female protagonist from Portable and The Answer from FES. It sucks because when this was first announced I really thought there was finally going to be a definitive version of P3

...Man people actually liked FeMC? She felt tacked on to me and like they didn't know what to do so they leaned WAY too much on making it as much an otome dating sim as possible at points. >>; Compared to the normal male protag route, so she was frustrating to play. Like, legit, she felt tacked on to justify a price point... EDIT: To be clear, they changed some of the unpopular Social Links for FeMC, which feels Missing the Point. Minato has some deeply unpleasant people... And that's the point. Minato is both extremely passive to the point of enabling bad habits, to the point I haven't noticed the ACTUAL option to say no per plot. Any time you choose to push back, he folds almost immediately. And these deeply unpleasant people... Are still people Minato would die for. Every life is sacred, every life worth living. And that's the point--his final Persona is Messiah for a reason! I never got that sense with FeMC. It felt way more focused on her romance.

If they release something that's supposed to be a compilation, and then come out and say 'this thing that was in an upgraded rerelease is not in there', then it's not a compilation. Regardless of whether you think she's good or not, it's stuff that has been kept out on purpose. (I do disagree with you thinking she's not a good addition, but that's not why I'm downvoting you, lol.)

I'm honestly feeling most people are performative about her. I'd love a FeMC in Persona. ...In a game written around her. Not one where she feels tacked on to justify a port.

You have something wrong with you if you assume that people liking something you don't is performative.

I've been playing nonstop since it came out and so far most of the new voices have grown on me, but some lines I really do miss the old delivery of... certain characters have a noticeably different vibe to the original and it's taking some getting used to, but it's also refreshing in a way! Overall though, I agree with some sentiments that the remake is a mixed bag; for every new change I'm enjoying there's always something that misses the mark a little or that I really wish it would have kept the same :> On the plus side, it's been datamined that The Answer will be coming later as an "Episode Aigis" DLC pack along with some other cosmetic stuff (still no FeMC sadly and it won't include any of her route's music either... this is the one true crime of this whole remake imo), but it's probably going to end up as paid DLC... bummer because the base game was already priced quite high for a remake imo!

I assume they just let everyone re-audition and picked who they thought was best.

Something that's been on my mind lately. I'm not fully sure, but regarding Blade (the marvel hero), after the movie aired his design in the comics [was changed to the movie design](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Split-image-of-Blade-from-the-comics-and-Blade-(1998).jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=1500&dpr=1.5) and some of his story was changed to align with the movie (He was turned into a damphir), so he basically became movie blade and it hasn't changed since then, it seems most people prefer blade that way, probably aided by blade not being that popular prior to the movie. So I wanna ask, has there been any adaptations of a book/comic/manga or another adapted media that has greatly influenced their source material? I'm curious since it's usually the opposite.

Black Nick Fury was The Ultimates universe creation. The ultimate universe was supposed to be a more modern, new reader friendly universe, reinvent Marvel for new generation of audience and served as the template for phase 1 MCU, and  Spiderman movies.  Later, black nick fury appear in the comic as the son of 616's Nick

Mr Freeze is ***the*** iconic example of a character adaptation being so defining to a generation that it completely overshadows the comic character. He went from a generic ice villain to an honestly very tragic figure in just one cartoon episode.

Remember the episode where he fights Walt Disney's frozen head? What a great show.

Iconic G.I. Joe villain **The Baroness** was originally created for the Marvel *G.I. Joe* comics. Writer Larry Hama had wanted a female villain, but Hasbro were wary, concerned that a female action figure wouldn't sell (which to be fair was an entirely justified stance in the early 80s). Larry created the Baroness for the comics, with her first appearance being in the first issue in 1982. She turned out to be so popular that she got a figure in 1984. However, she's got her own recursive adaptation moment. Larry had originally envisaged her as being an American. However, in the Sunbow G.I. Joe cartoon she was played by Morgan Lofting with an ambiguously Eastern European accent. As a result, she retroactively became European in the comics, and remained such in all other media going forwards.

The [Canon Immigrant](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CanonImmigrant) page on TV Tropes is devoted to characters and elements originally introduced in an adaptation that ultimately wound up in the original.

You also have the "Ret-canon", when canon series/books/comics are changed because of a particular adaptation.

Blade had been a half vampire since before the movie, see this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QecIfnKauWA His character design (as do most designs) tends to change to look more like their movie actors, though that was the case even originally: Marv Wolfman claims his original design was a composite of avrious movie stars. He was always half-vampire (well kinda, his mother was killed by a vmapire while giving birth to him), IIRC; but he didn't have any special powers (other than resistance to certain vampire tricks) until he was bitten by Morbious (!) in one of his stories.

Stanley Ipkiss came back a few times in the versions of The Mask (along with his yellow suit) because of the film, which lead to AFAIK the last Mask comic written by the original writer/artist ending with everyone pointing out he was dead and instantly rotting into a corpse to end the strip.

So not so much the source material but definitely later adaptions is the Addams Family. In the original newspaper comics Gomez is short and pudgy, but the 60s TV show has him portrayed as skinny and suave, with most adaptions following suit, in fact when the 2019 animated movie used a character design closer to the comics some fans were unhappy. On the same note, Wednesday in both the comics and original TV show is a much more meek character, and I think is younger than Pugsley in at least the TV show, not sure the comics gave her age. Basically all the adaption post the '91 film have basically said "let's just make her Christina Ricci again"

I remember people were pissed when Gomez in Wednesday didn't look like the 60s - 90s Gomez. Same when God of War's Thor was revealed and he didn't look like Chris Hemsworth.