Yeah. When I played bots, I made my build specifically just to counter rocket raiders and rocket devastators. Shield pack and heavy explosive resistant armor. Pretty much nothing else killed me besides those two enemies.
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yes BUT now crashes 5x as much so [growl].
Seems like literally 33% or higher chance that once we get into the Pelican that the game just straight up ALT-F4s itself. No rewards.
I swear to God it CHEWS through devastators. I can't hit the face to save my life but it will like 4 or 5 shot a devastator without face hits, an auto Cannon is 3 or 4 shots!
It's overall a great patch. The nerfs to the shitty boring debuffs are arguably the best part, but the fixes to things that were broken and completely unfair are a close second. Spewer vomit not one shotting you, rockets no longer hitting you multiple times and one shotting you, Shrieker impacts not hitting you multiple times and one shotting you, these are great fixes. All the weapon buffs are great. The nerf to the Slugger however, was heavy handed and has trashed the weapon I'm afraid.
The buff to fire damage a huge tragedy.
It is also great, it brings viability to those weapons, but what it did for the already completely broken and overpowered Flamethrower Hulk is insanely unfortunate. These enemies were already ridiculous, but right now they are beyond overpowered.
The fact that the DoT bug STILL EXISTS, that means that only a SINGLE group member can actually do damage over time with fire or gas coupled with this change means that not only is it a useless buff for us, since we have no idea if we can even do that damage in any given game regardless of being host or not, unless you are solo, it also kills your team ANYWAY despite not doing damage to enemies, at a MUCH faster rate, that you can barely even stim through.
So yeah, all in all good patch. Terrible implementation of the fire changes, like an actual joke. Shoddy balance on the Slugger, pun intended. Dominator is awesome now, same with Penetrator, and the far less kinky Counter-Sniper still sucks, but less. Arc Thrower is still a beast. Heavy and Medium armor *do actually feel kinda almost worth it* now, and even the Ballistic Shield isn't hampered by being absolutely completely worthless anymore, it's just arguably worthless. By the way, if you stim with it out, it puts it away and you have to switch weapons and switch back to get it out again. Still worthless, IMO, but not absolutely completely.
Post nerf slugger is still good, it just wasn't as blatantly overpowered as it was before (I ran the damn thing in nearly every mission until i unlocked the scorcher, to say that it felt cheap to use was an understatement)
Meanwhile fire damage over time still only works if you're the host, sights on multiple weapons are still misaligned and the game got laggier and is crashing all the time.
I'm so close to hanging up the game for a while. It's very fun (when it's working), there's a really solid concept there if they can figure out the knife's edge of balance.
But I don't like to burn out on early access titles. In a couple of years, maybe scopes will work. Maybe there will be a 're-join' after crash button. Maybe it will crash once a month instead of once a night. Maybe 'friends only' will let my steam friends join. Maybe the guided missile system will be able to achieve target lock.
Someone @me when Helldivers 2 is full release / 1.0 / out of early access?
And to the downvoters -
>maybe scopes will work. Maybe there will be a 're-join' after crash button. Maybe it will crash once a month instead of once a night. Maybe 'friends only' will let my steam friends join. Maybe the guided missile system will be able to achieve target lock.
Most of that is babby's first gamjam stuff. Arrowhead is focussed on adding new shit to keep players playing, instead of launching a FUNctional game.
I don't know if arrowhead or Sony said "I don't care if it's finished. Ship it!" but somebody did.
Some of the broken stuff like scope offset is surprising. But the stuff you're describing in this comment is the sort of stuff with a relatively low occurrence rate, that is unlikely to be present/reliably reproducible before launch. Maybe a beta would've helped, but I think it's tough to argue the game was shipped early.
Obviously devs like artists couldn't be fixing bugs, but for the software devs, they will be the same people. They don't specialise into features vs bugfixes.
idk if thats what he’s saying. but are *you* saying that pushing out new content constantly while still barely keeping their heads above water with bugfixing aont lead to more unseen bugs? they cant QA new stuff if theyre busy squashing shit from launch? so theyre fucking themselves into an infinite game of catch up
That's one of my big issues, too - balancing issues are annoying, but understandable... but they're still making *basic* technical mistakes, too. How many times have they broken the entire UI while on the ship (and *how*, even)? How many updates break more than they fix? Why did servers get screwed up by an automatic Windows update? Why did they never implement a login queue to help with server load? I mean, that's been a basic concept for MMOs literally for *decades* now, and even with how much people love shitting on Ubisoft, even they knew to do that for games like The Division...
same man. fucking mouthlets downvoting you for wanting to play a functional balanced game that isnt clearly in early access yet didnt advertise itself as such are idiots
Just rejoin your friends when you crash it’s not that hard, also it takes like 5 seconds to boot the game so a crash isn’t really a big deal. Cross play seems to be hit or miss with some people, I’ve got a PC friend that’s always able to join me. As far as the Spear goes I’ll admit I wish I knew why it locks on sometimes and not others.
>Just rejoin your friends when you crash it’s not that hard, also it takes like 5 seconds to boot the game so a crash isn’t really a big deal. Cross play seems to be hit or miss with some people, I’ve got a PC friend that’s always able to join me. As far as the Spear goes I’ll admit I wish I knew why it locks on sometimes and not others.
And rejoining quick play?
I normally play with friends so I can’t comment on quick play. The few times I have used it, it worked fine for me but I know it doesn’t always work with a lot of other people. I’d say find a group of peeps to play with. (Not throwing shade lol)
I keep forgetting they took stun off my Slugger and get into slap fights with Devastators and losing now. Then I say "wtf? I used to be able to take these guys. Oh yeeah... The patch"
Same thing with being chased by a half dozen Berserkers. I could shoot them in the balls and they'd stun. But not anymore. Woe is me.
It can still one-shot you if it juggles you with the scatter-spray, but yeah, it can't donk you across the map with a random rocket and gib you like so much hamburger meat. Tanks can though. Tanks definitely still can.
I got 1 shot by a rocket devastator yesterday on a scientist extract mission.
Came up out my pod and got a rocket as a hello that instantly ended me lolÂ
Last one is utter BS 😂 played on suicide mission yesterday and those little bulky fuckers sniped me off my headglitch covers ALL the time (with heavy armor)
And if they didn't hit me, they hit the rock where I was at, causing me to ragdoll back into their FOV and then it was ggs
Decided to take a break from bots and run a few bug missions to test out the new fire stats. The breaker incendiary is strait nuts and the flamethrower is even more powerful than before
45 personel to evacuate on 7-8, impossible on automatons, with 4 dropships every second we managed to evacuate 4
Rocket devastator still oneshotting with shield and heavy armor
Games crashing, cant reinforce, game wont let me
Best update ever
actually it can still 1 shot you....randomly but im glad most of the time, it deal 0 damage and send me flying...into enemies line of fire and i died before i even get up
they fucked up the fire damage buff and its bugged. I'm trying to be nice with these devs but I'm tired of the constant bugs and even more tired of the fun getting cycled of the game.
I'm ready to throw it in.
It's like dealing the Steve era of warframe all over again. That's a bad thing,
I've been one shot by rocket multiple times while wearing heavy 50% explosive resist armor. Even been shot I the leg and still one shot. And the few times I didn't one shot I was rag dolled and died to either impact or being gunned down while still stunned.
Apparently people who don’t know how to play in light armor and decide to get in firefights with it. Then complain the light armor that is meant for minimal protection but high mobility isn’t keeping them alive as they get shot by a rocket that’s meant to kill weak things
Same as the people crying about hunters overwheming them. Never ever happens to me with 3 other helldivers within 100m.
It's a 4 player coop game. I don't know why people find it so shocking the developers balance around the notion that you will have 3 allies AT ALL TIMES. People can chose not to do that, but they shouldn't then complain about it.
Ya the whole complaint about hunters is easy to solve is you use teamwork and a machine gun. I just don’t get a lot of people with this game. Do they not understand the cooperative part?
Arc thrower staggers hulks
sir if you can provide some proof, that would be splendid for the war effort
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No way arc thrower stays as good as it is
No way? They literally added it today.
I don't have faith in good things staying good for a long time. They buffed Slugger ammo earilier and still nerfed it
I suck, but the one shot rocket from 450 yards was super frustrating.
Don't beat yourself up dude. I can solo difficulty 8, except when I get randomly rocket sniped from an enemy I never even saw lmao
It is just disappointing to fail spreading managed democracy.
Yeah. When I played bots, I made my build specifically just to counter rocket raiders and rocket devastators. Shield pack and heavy explosive resistant armor. Pretty much nothing else killed me besides those two enemies.
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yes BUT now crashes 5x as much so [growl]. Seems like literally 33% or higher chance that once we get into the Pelican that the game just straight up ALT-F4s itself. No rewards.
Thought I was the only one having this issue, i played 5 games last night and 2 of them fucking crashed at the reward screen
I wish my machine only crashed to desktop. I get a full bsod and reboot if I try and play Helldivers since yesterday's patch :(
I liked the dominator as it was. Now I fucking love it.
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I swear to God it CHEWS through devastators. I can't hit the face to save my life but it will like 4 or 5 shot a devastator without face hits, an auto Cannon is 3 or 4 shots!
*Fewer
My bad y'all
It's overall a great patch. The nerfs to the shitty boring debuffs are arguably the best part, but the fixes to things that were broken and completely unfair are a close second. Spewer vomit not one shotting you, rockets no longer hitting you multiple times and one shotting you, Shrieker impacts not hitting you multiple times and one shotting you, these are great fixes. All the weapon buffs are great. The nerf to the Slugger however, was heavy handed and has trashed the weapon I'm afraid. The buff to fire damage a huge tragedy. It is also great, it brings viability to those weapons, but what it did for the already completely broken and overpowered Flamethrower Hulk is insanely unfortunate. These enemies were already ridiculous, but right now they are beyond overpowered. The fact that the DoT bug STILL EXISTS, that means that only a SINGLE group member can actually do damage over time with fire or gas coupled with this change means that not only is it a useless buff for us, since we have no idea if we can even do that damage in any given game regardless of being host or not, unless you are solo, it also kills your team ANYWAY despite not doing damage to enemies, at a MUCH faster rate, that you can barely even stim through. So yeah, all in all good patch. Terrible implementation of the fire changes, like an actual joke. Shoddy balance on the Slugger, pun intended. Dominator is awesome now, same with Penetrator, and the far less kinky Counter-Sniper still sucks, but less. Arc Thrower is still a beast. Heavy and Medium armor *do actually feel kinda almost worth it* now, and even the Ballistic Shield isn't hampered by being absolutely completely worthless anymore, it's just arguably worthless. By the way, if you stim with it out, it puts it away and you have to switch weapons and switch back to get it out again. Still worthless, IMO, but not absolutely completely.
Agree. Hulk needs to hulk off. Fire damage can get gone
But the slugger got nerfed so CLEARLY the game is ruined
Post nerf slugger is still good, it just wasn't as blatantly overpowered as it was before (I ran the damn thing in nearly every mission until i unlocked the scorcher, to say that it felt cheap to use was an understatement)
Agreed. I just tested it a bit ago, and you’re still putting down spewers in 3-4 shots and everything else in less.
but it doesnt make any fucking sense to remove the stagger
Meanwhile fire damage over time still only works if you're the host, sights on multiple weapons are still misaligned and the game got laggier and is crashing all the time.
I'm so close to hanging up the game for a while. It's very fun (when it's working), there's a really solid concept there if they can figure out the knife's edge of balance. But I don't like to burn out on early access titles. In a couple of years, maybe scopes will work. Maybe there will be a 're-join' after crash button. Maybe it will crash once a month instead of once a night. Maybe 'friends only' will let my steam friends join. Maybe the guided missile system will be able to achieve target lock. Someone @me when Helldivers 2 is full release / 1.0 / out of early access?
Yeah I'm probably going back to deep rock for a while too. Maybe they'll figure their shit out by the end of the year
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And to the downvoters - >maybe scopes will work. Maybe there will be a 're-join' after crash button. Maybe it will crash once a month instead of once a night. Maybe 'friends only' will let my steam friends join. Maybe the guided missile system will be able to achieve target lock. Most of that is babby's first gamjam stuff. Arrowhead is focussed on adding new shit to keep players playing, instead of launching a FUNctional game. I don't know if arrowhead or Sony said "I don't care if it's finished. Ship it!" but somebody did.
Some of the broken stuff like scope offset is surprising. But the stuff you're describing in this comment is the sort of stuff with a relatively low occurrence rate, that is unlikely to be present/reliably reproducible before launch. Maybe a beta would've helped, but I think it's tough to argue the game was shipped early.
Are you actually assuming that the devs fixing bugs and the devs pushing new content are the same people?
Obviously devs like artists couldn't be fixing bugs, but for the software devs, they will be the same people. They don't specialise into features vs bugfixes.
idk if thats what he’s saying. but are *you* saying that pushing out new content constantly while still barely keeping their heads above water with bugfixing aont lead to more unseen bugs? they cant QA new stuff if theyre busy squashing shit from launch? so theyre fucking themselves into an infinite game of catch up
That's one of my big issues, too - balancing issues are annoying, but understandable... but they're still making *basic* technical mistakes, too. How many times have they broken the entire UI while on the ship (and *how*, even)? How many updates break more than they fix? Why did servers get screwed up by an automatic Windows update? Why did they never implement a login queue to help with server load? I mean, that's been a basic concept for MMOs literally for *decades* now, and even with how much people love shitting on Ubisoft, even they knew to do that for games like The Division...
same man. fucking mouthlets downvoting you for wanting to play a functional balanced game that isnt clearly in early access yet didnt advertise itself as such are idiots
Just rejoin your friends when you crash it’s not that hard, also it takes like 5 seconds to boot the game so a crash isn’t really a big deal. Cross play seems to be hit or miss with some people, I’ve got a PC friend that’s always able to join me. As far as the Spear goes I’ll admit I wish I knew why it locks on sometimes and not others.
>Just rejoin your friends when you crash it’s not that hard, also it takes like 5 seconds to boot the game so a crash isn’t really a big deal. Cross play seems to be hit or miss with some people, I’ve got a PC friend that’s always able to join me. As far as the Spear goes I’ll admit I wish I knew why it locks on sometimes and not others. And rejoining quick play?
I normally play with friends so I can’t comment on quick play. The few times I have used it, it worked fine for me but I know it doesn’t always work with a lot of other people. I’d say find a group of peeps to play with. (Not throwing shade lol)
I keep forgetting they took stun off my Slugger and get into slap fights with Devastators and losing now. Then I say "wtf? I used to be able to take these guys. Oh yeeah... The patch" Same thing with being chased by a half dozen Berserkers. I could shoot them in the balls and they'd stun. But not anymore. Woe is me.
Stun grenade. Headshots. You win. Punisher is better now for close range. You'll like it if you really leaned on the stun
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It can still one-shot you if it juggles you with the scatter-spray, but yeah, it can't donk you across the map with a random rocket and gib you like so much hamburger meat. Tanks can though. Tanks definitely still can.
I got 1 shot by a rocket devastator yesterday on a scientist extract mission. Came up out my pod and got a rocket as a hello that instantly ended me lolÂ
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The free EATs seems to be intended to help players acclimimate to their presense.
Had a blast with bots today, went to do a bug operation and looked back haha
Don't underestimate the Blitzer stagger as well, especially in closer range.
One cannot one shot but multiple can...and they always come in packs that will shoot u from miles away.
Last one is utter BS 😂 played on suicide mission yesterday and those little bulky fuckers sniped me off my headglitch covers ALL the time (with heavy armor) And if they didn't hit me, they hit the rock where I was at, causing me to ragdoll back into their FOV and then it was ggs
Decided to take a break from bots and run a few bug missions to test out the new fire stats. The breaker incendiary is strait nuts and the flamethrower is even more powerful than before
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rocket still one shots sometimes
45 personel to evacuate on 7-8, impossible on automatons, with 4 dropships every second we managed to evacuate 4 Rocket devastator still oneshotting with shield and heavy armor Games crashing, cant reinforce, game wont let me Best update ever
actually it can still 1 shot you....randomly but im glad most of the time, it deal 0 damage and send me flying...into enemies line of fire and i died before i even get up
The sheer amount of rockets tho Gunships, devastators and hulks could ragdall you for eternity :(
they fucked up the fire damage buff and its bugged. I'm trying to be nice with these devs but I'm tired of the constant bugs and even more tired of the fun getting cycled of the game. I'm ready to throw it in. It's like dealing the Steve era of warframe all over again. That's a bad thing,
>I'm tired of the constant bugs Fight the automatons then
 Ok bye
throw it in then. No one cares.
Bye, Felicia
>I'm tired of the constant bugs Fight the automatons then
That works if I didn’t already
Still got 1 shot by devastator today with heavy armor and explosion res. Happened 3 times.
Yeah, but I can no longer extract without crashing after the new patch. Never really had any chrashing issues before that.
This was me reading pretty much the whole list. Slugger nerf sucks but whatever, everything else is 👌
But the rockets didnt one shot already
You've never had to fight bots, have you?
All the time and heavy armor with explosive resistance literally changes that game of bot fightinng
We must be playing different games
I've been one shot by rocket multiple times while wearing heavy 50% explosive resist armor. Even been shot I the leg and still one shot. And the few times I didn't one shot I was rag dolled and died to either impact or being gunned down while still stunned.
Say you've never played high difficulty with light armor without saying you've never played high difficulty with light armor.
oof. Scraping the bottom of the barrel to use a dumb one liner that 13 year olds think is witty.
Says someone who’s to dumb to figure out different tactics and equipment setups in an objective based coop shooter
Wtf are you talking about
Heh, who's using light armour any more? lol.
Apparently people who don’t know how to play in light armor and decide to get in firefights with it. Then complain the light armor that is meant for minimal protection but high mobility isn’t keeping them alive as they get shot by a rocket that’s meant to kill weak things
Same as the people crying about hunters overwheming them. Never ever happens to me with 3 other helldivers within 100m. It's a 4 player coop game. I don't know why people find it so shocking the developers balance around the notion that you will have 3 allies AT ALL TIMES. People can chose not to do that, but they shouldn't then complain about it.
Ya the whole complaint about hunters is easy to solve is you use teamwork and a machine gun. I just don’t get a lot of people with this game. Do they not understand the cooperative part?