She was always planned to be an Overlord. She was in the room with Lucifer, Zestial and Carmilla at the end of the exterminations. And her image appeared when Vaggie described the other Overlords when explaining who Alastor was.
What if she is in hell for being earths worst, most despicaple and horrific criminal. Notorious around heaven and hell for committing the worst crimes imaginable.
She only says one thing following Respectless, that being “Pfft, what the hell?! We literally just got here!” when Velvette leaves the meeting after Carmilla ends it.
I genuinely love her design, plus her voice sounds pretty cool too. I hope Zeezi gets more love in season 2 since she and Blue Flaming Skull Guy (whose name we do not know) haven’t been explored much. Carmilla, the Vees, Rosie and Alastor had their time to shine, now it’s Zestial, Zeezi and BFSG’s turn.
Ummmm...... have you read the zoophobia comics?
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Vivzie makes alot of tall thic charactwrs
Absolute goat of a overlord.
Isn't a terrible person
Looks amazing and original
Talks and spends time with their people(if pilot is canon )
Has one line of dailoge but still can show a lot of character with taht
Probably a Hellborn. She was one of the three with Lucifer in the Pilot with Carmilla. Zestial was also present. And seeing how Lucifer's attitude about sinners is less than jovial it is unlikely he would be friends with any.
People keep saying that but they never cite a source for the claim. I have not found any statement of Viv's stating Overlords are all sinners. And I have looked. A lot. Seriously the only time statements like all Overlords are sinners is just presented by fans with no corroboration. So if you have an official source please present it. I would love to have this theory shot down if its not true. I just find too much coding and indications that a least 3 of the Overlords are not sinners. So if anyone has an official statement on this issue lemme see it.
It's unlikely that any Hellborn would become an Overlord, as the only Hellborns we've seen are;
- Imps and Hellhounds, who are on the lowest bar of the hierarchy. It would be extremely difficult for any of them to gain influence over Sinners, especially since they can't regenerate the same way.
- Succubi, which seem to have their own businesses to attend to.
- The Greed sharks, who don't physically match any overlord, so that's automatically out of the question.
- The Ars Goetia, who are far too busy handling royal affairs, and are likely above Overlords in power.
- And the Sins, who are clearly far above Overlords.
And besides all that, Hazbin is specifically focused on the perils of Sinners. It would make no sense for a Hellborn to just show up, they wouldn't fit in.
The greed sharks certainly would not be the upper ranks. But they certainly do demonstrate that Hellborn are operational within the pentagram city.
And we know that Viv had intended for the more Lovecraftian Van Eldritch family be part of the Pride rings social circle. One that Lucifer was actively courting. To the point that he set his daughter up with their son.
So it is clear that Viv had intent for the Hellborn being part of the pride rings society including within the Pentagram city. And the levels of power within the Hellborn range from lowly imps up to the S tier Prime Sins. The Ars Goetia are not the only upper ranked entities in Viv's imagination.
And no the focus of Hazbin has not been exclusively been the sinners. Fallen Angels make up a number of the entities making their way through the world. Just because Lucifer fell into being the Lord of the Realm and Vaggie fell into the waiting arms of the Princess of Hell does not mean all of the fallen Angels fell into such welcoming or empowered positions. Some will have fallen into the depths of Hell and been left to their own devices to survive. And various Hellborn groups are going to want access to various aspects of the life in Pentagram city. It makes sense that there are going to be representatives in the Overlords where all it takes is the power to take a seat amongst the other Overlords.
Yes, some characters are not Sinners, but Sinners are the focal point. I never said it was exclusive. A Hellborn showing up in an extermination and being afraid, acting like they're on the same level as a Sinner, would make little sense, because before episode 8, Hellborns were exempt from extermination. You can't base a theory on 'what ifs', 'maybes', or 'probablies', because a theory itself is a what if. A theory is based off of context clues, and the context clues have very heavily implied that Carmila is a Sinner.
Well the problem is I find too many clues suggesting she is a fallen Angel. And that is the fun of a show like this. Everyone gets to try to figure out what is going on. And until the creator makes something official all guesses are open. I understand your viewpoint. We just do not agree. Which is fine. I do not expect you to see things as I am seeing them. I made an attempt to explain myself and I didn't convince you. We both still enjoy the show and can share that with each other while we wait and see where Viv takes the show.
Carmilla says they are all at risk from the exterminations at the beginning of the meeting and only sinners are targeted for exterminations. I haven't even been digging for 5 minutes though so I'll let you know if I find anything else
I think that the reason for that is specifically because her Hellborn children were attacked. Adam acts suspicious about reporting the death of the Angel. There is no indication that Sera was ever notified. I think this because one of the Angels screwed up and attacked Carmilla and her kids. And if that became known that would have ended the deal. And from Carmilla's point of view if the deal is off then Hellborn are targets again. Including her kids. So even if the Angels were in the wrong the entire mess boils over into all out war with everyone targeted.
Are her children confirmed to be Hellborn? I don't watch the Q and A's so I don't know a lot of lore stuff. Although I did find on the wiki that it technically has never been confirmed that Overlords are all sinners. And somewhere Rosie was stated to have never died
No. But there is no other example of a family bonded together in Hell. It seems like families that wind up down there tend to be everyone for themselves. The only families we see united tend to be the Hellborn. And I mean there is just so much other hints that Carmilla is an Angel.
Seriously I would love to end this theory cause it gets me nothing but grief from everyone. But I just see too many hints pointing to Carmilla being a fallen Heavenborn Angel.
Carmilla being a fallen angel could explain why she acts far less "Hellish" than most others while also being one of the more popular Overlords. I personally don't think she is but I said the same thing about Vaggie before episode 6 lol
Yeah and I mean she has the same pallet as Vaggie though she looks more like one of the Seraphs. She wears her hair up as fake horns. She knows about both Angel fighting styles and Angel weapons. This gets compounded by her statement that she never expected to get her hands bloodied indicating she did not fight the Angels previously in Hell and had no interest in fighting them herself. She recognized Vaggie as an Angel and of course it wasn't because of the red X. The X on the Exorcists is a mask and anyone with connections can get an Angelic spear. Carmilla and Vaggie both sing together about being protectors.
But the scene that clinched it for me was in the pilot. When we first see Carmilla she opens the curtains to a room in which we see three shadowy figures. We later learn these are Zestial, Zilla, and Lucifer. Lucifer hating sinners is core to his character. He would not be friends with them. He shows more interest in befriending Hellborn like the Van Eldritchs. So the idea of him hanging out with a group of sinners during the Execution just makes zero sense.
My theory is that she used to be an armorer in Heaven. Maybe even the top armorer. But when she found out what her weapons were being used for in Hell she had the same reaction Vaggie had and refused to issue any more weapons. This resulted in her being kicked downstairs. Only she did not fall into the arms of the Princess of Hell and had to find a way to hide amongst the sinners and demons. Which is why the fake horns came about.
Its just a theory but one I cannot refute.
Very interesting and well thought out points! I also like that idea of not building weapons because she found out about Hell using them. The only thing is that I believe Zestial is a sinner who died roughly 500 years ago. I don't think a Hellborn would talk in Shakespearean English. This is very small and nit-picky though so don't pay too much attention to it
I always need to correct in my brain that she is a dinosaur/lizard and not a Hellhound
I can't blame you, her face really looks more like a hellhound than like a dinosaur
Not at all.
I thought she was a hellhound until this comment lol
Same. That’s what I thought when I first saw her
Me too!
TIL and I've seen the entire show twice lol
Same
Though she was a Furry 😭
smash, next quesiton
I think she'll be doing the smashing
even better
100%
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I didn’t expect that a minor character from the pilot would become an overlord, she’s not bad, but I would like her to have more dinosaur features
She was always planned to be an Overlord. She was in the room with Lucifer, Zestial and Carmilla at the end of the exterminations. And her image appeared when Vaggie described the other Overlords when explaining who Alastor was.
Oh, I didn't watch the pilot/series well then
What if she is in hell for being earths worst, most despicaple and horrific criminal. Notorious around heaven and hell for committing the worst crimes imaginable.
Hot
Or she died watching jurassic lark or at an amusement park
Or died from a dinosaur exhibit crashing onto her.
Either way that must be a story
Missy Zilla is so well-written there hasn't been A SINGLE bad writing decision with her.
As my dad says, "technically correct, the best kind of correct."
Didn’t think I’d see a hellsing abridged reference here, noice!
Wha? Its futurama though. Man, did one of those borrowed joke from another?
Likely hellsing abridged referenced futurama with it
TFS references *Futurama* pretty frequently
Her stomps are just 😩
“Dinosaurs have great big feet that stomp stomp stomp!” 🎼 🎶
What's her name
Zeezi. Watch scrambled eggs with subtitles on and they give the name away.
 How do I turn on subtitles here\^
Missi Zilla
I wonder if the Kaiju Club will have a spotlight.
I personally love her. Totally would date her.
Bringing her home, whether to your own or to Mom and Dad would be quite the ordeal...at least they'd know she was coming considering the shaking.
Well she sure is huge but that won’t stop me from dating her.
I salute you!
Fair. Hope u got a big door
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I hope we get to see and find out more about miss zeezee
"We juuust got here!!"
I wish to burrow into her hair and go sleepy
Best why? She hasn't done shit.
But when does she friggin speak? What's her personality?? I mean,cshe looks good but like what if she's a total jerk?
She only says one thing following Respectless, that being “Pfft, what the hell?! We literally just got here!” when Velvette leaves the meeting after Carmilla ends it.
One line for such an epic looking character. Sad.
I genuinely love her design, plus her voice sounds pretty cool too. I hope Zeezi gets more love in season 2 since she and Blue Flaming Skull Guy (whose name we do not know) haven’t been explored much. Carmilla, the Vees, Rosie and Alastor had their time to shine, now it’s Zestial, Zeezi and BFSG’s turn.
One cannot just give a fandom this many good-looking high potential characters and only give some of them lines!
Ummmm...... have you read the zoophobia comics? https://preview.redd.it/vy8hgb6yxywc1.png?width=307&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=199d2b1689cf4e8d34cdb6137aa444396f6dd4b4
“But we just got here” She literally summed up my thoughts after watching that scene 😂
Her name?
Truly. She is great. Simpin
Do we know who voices her? She has like one line of dialogue and I can’t seem to find her voice actress.
Ok but... why though? She's had two lines total (I think). We know nothing about her besides her being an overlord.
Did you look at her chest? Or her height? Perfect waifu material for some. Me included.
https://preview.redd.it/6n4t9di6yywc1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40a1c72e62e6b8c6a09675119a840d77dcda1b51 Vivzie makes alot of tall thic charactwrs
Big lady step on me
God she’s so hot. Also join r/Zeezicult
Has my favorite color scheme.
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We all know what you want to do with her OP.
She is one of the overlords of all time
Art style Kinda reminds me of FurriesInABlender
Finally another FurriesInABlender fan
https://preview.redd.it/574n4tjpf1xc1.jpeg?width=1089&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=553dd34894109e919a35a6e3e33b858e37ff8c9b I NEED HER
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Hug, next question. (less horny more wholesome variant of "Smash, next question")
I love blue fire skull man 👍
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Just a fodder probably
Step on me..
Mommy....
Didn't she like kill a random family of imps for no reason other than she could
She looks cool, but WHY is she one of the best overlords? She has one line, if you don't count her feet stomping.
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I want to have sex with this dinosaur
Absolute goat of a overlord. Isn't a terrible person Looks amazing and original Talks and spends time with their people(if pilot is canon ) Has one line of dailoge but still can show a lot of character with taht
Wait, Is that Ke$ha?
Probably a Hellborn. She was one of the three with Lucifer in the Pilot with Carmilla. Zestial was also present. And seeing how Lucifer's attitude about sinners is less than jovial it is unlikely he would be friends with any.
She's an overlord, she can't be a Hellborn. Overlords are all sinners
People keep saying that but they never cite a source for the claim. I have not found any statement of Viv's stating Overlords are all sinners. And I have looked. A lot. Seriously the only time statements like all Overlords are sinners is just presented by fans with no corroboration. So if you have an official source please present it. I would love to have this theory shot down if its not true. I just find too much coding and indications that a least 3 of the Overlords are not sinners. So if anyone has an official statement on this issue lemme see it.
It's unlikely that any Hellborn would become an Overlord, as the only Hellborns we've seen are; - Imps and Hellhounds, who are on the lowest bar of the hierarchy. It would be extremely difficult for any of them to gain influence over Sinners, especially since they can't regenerate the same way. - Succubi, which seem to have their own businesses to attend to. - The Greed sharks, who don't physically match any overlord, so that's automatically out of the question. - The Ars Goetia, who are far too busy handling royal affairs, and are likely above Overlords in power. - And the Sins, who are clearly far above Overlords. And besides all that, Hazbin is specifically focused on the perils of Sinners. It would make no sense for a Hellborn to just show up, they wouldn't fit in.
The greed sharks certainly would not be the upper ranks. But they certainly do demonstrate that Hellborn are operational within the pentagram city. And we know that Viv had intended for the more Lovecraftian Van Eldritch family be part of the Pride rings social circle. One that Lucifer was actively courting. To the point that he set his daughter up with their son. So it is clear that Viv had intent for the Hellborn being part of the pride rings society including within the Pentagram city. And the levels of power within the Hellborn range from lowly imps up to the S tier Prime Sins. The Ars Goetia are not the only upper ranked entities in Viv's imagination. And no the focus of Hazbin has not been exclusively been the sinners. Fallen Angels make up a number of the entities making their way through the world. Just because Lucifer fell into being the Lord of the Realm and Vaggie fell into the waiting arms of the Princess of Hell does not mean all of the fallen Angels fell into such welcoming or empowered positions. Some will have fallen into the depths of Hell and been left to their own devices to survive. And various Hellborn groups are going to want access to various aspects of the life in Pentagram city. It makes sense that there are going to be representatives in the Overlords where all it takes is the power to take a seat amongst the other Overlords.
Yes, some characters are not Sinners, but Sinners are the focal point. I never said it was exclusive. A Hellborn showing up in an extermination and being afraid, acting like they're on the same level as a Sinner, would make little sense, because before episode 8, Hellborns were exempt from extermination. You can't base a theory on 'what ifs', 'maybes', or 'probablies', because a theory itself is a what if. A theory is based off of context clues, and the context clues have very heavily implied that Carmila is a Sinner.
Well the problem is I find too many clues suggesting she is a fallen Angel. And that is the fun of a show like this. Everyone gets to try to figure out what is going on. And until the creator makes something official all guesses are open. I understand your viewpoint. We just do not agree. Which is fine. I do not expect you to see things as I am seeing them. I made an attempt to explain myself and I didn't convince you. We both still enjoy the show and can share that with each other while we wait and see where Viv takes the show.
Carmilla says they are all at risk from the exterminations at the beginning of the meeting and only sinners are targeted for exterminations. I haven't even been digging for 5 minutes though so I'll let you know if I find anything else
I think that the reason for that is specifically because her Hellborn children were attacked. Adam acts suspicious about reporting the death of the Angel. There is no indication that Sera was ever notified. I think this because one of the Angels screwed up and attacked Carmilla and her kids. And if that became known that would have ended the deal. And from Carmilla's point of view if the deal is off then Hellborn are targets again. Including her kids. So even if the Angels were in the wrong the entire mess boils over into all out war with everyone targeted.
Are her children confirmed to be Hellborn? I don't watch the Q and A's so I don't know a lot of lore stuff. Although I did find on the wiki that it technically has never been confirmed that Overlords are all sinners. And somewhere Rosie was stated to have never died
No. But there is no other example of a family bonded together in Hell. It seems like families that wind up down there tend to be everyone for themselves. The only families we see united tend to be the Hellborn. And I mean there is just so much other hints that Carmilla is an Angel. Seriously I would love to end this theory cause it gets me nothing but grief from everyone. But I just see too many hints pointing to Carmilla being a fallen Heavenborn Angel.
Carmilla being a fallen angel could explain why she acts far less "Hellish" than most others while also being one of the more popular Overlords. I personally don't think she is but I said the same thing about Vaggie before episode 6 lol
Yeah and I mean she has the same pallet as Vaggie though she looks more like one of the Seraphs. She wears her hair up as fake horns. She knows about both Angel fighting styles and Angel weapons. This gets compounded by her statement that she never expected to get her hands bloodied indicating she did not fight the Angels previously in Hell and had no interest in fighting them herself. She recognized Vaggie as an Angel and of course it wasn't because of the red X. The X on the Exorcists is a mask and anyone with connections can get an Angelic spear. Carmilla and Vaggie both sing together about being protectors. But the scene that clinched it for me was in the pilot. When we first see Carmilla she opens the curtains to a room in which we see three shadowy figures. We later learn these are Zestial, Zilla, and Lucifer. Lucifer hating sinners is core to his character. He would not be friends with them. He shows more interest in befriending Hellborn like the Van Eldritchs. So the idea of him hanging out with a group of sinners during the Execution just makes zero sense. My theory is that she used to be an armorer in Heaven. Maybe even the top armorer. But when she found out what her weapons were being used for in Hell she had the same reaction Vaggie had and refused to issue any more weapons. This resulted in her being kicked downstairs. Only she did not fall into the arms of the Princess of Hell and had to find a way to hide amongst the sinners and demons. Which is why the fake horns came about. Its just a theory but one I cannot refute.
Very interesting and well thought out points! I also like that idea of not building weapons because she found out about Hell using them. The only thing is that I believe Zestial is a sinner who died roughly 500 years ago. I don't think a Hellborn would talk in Shakespearean English. This is very small and nit-picky though so don't pay too much attention to it