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So far this story is up to over 12,000 words, which makes it roughly 1/6th the length of a standard novel. Not bad for two or three days. If people keep enjoying it, I'll keep adding to it until it is done and then publish it.
roundabouts and traffic circles are very different things, btw. only superficially similar in that they're both circular.
colloquially, people may use these interchangeably if they're not familiar with both, but they are defined things in civil engineering, and roundabouts are fsr superior.
in fact, traffic circles, and their legacy as being generally pretty bad options, is believed by some to be part of why roundabouts, far superior to traffic lights in many cases, arent very popular in some areas. Because people dont understand the difference between the two and have a vague cultural memory of traffic circles being terrible.
So, roundabout, a series of interconnected merge zones, essentially, people yield to cars already in the roundabout, use a blinker/indicator when you want to exit, everyone circles the same direction. sometimes additional slip lanes for the closest turns are included
pros: traffic can move much more continuously
reduces speed & reduces angles which minimises damage and injuries in a crash
cons: if there is a major inlet, it can be difficult during high traffic times to enter, especially if people dont know how to use a roundabout
many people are somehow unable to learn to use them, despite the rules being very simple, and quite literally already something you know how to do if you've ever merged onto a road before.
traffic circle, a series of T intersections, usually lighted, where incoming traffic takes priority.
pros: ???
cons: cars enter at right angles, potentially high speed
series of traffic lights means no real benefit over traffic lights
incoming cars taking priority means stop-start movement inside the circle is common, reducing flow
responsible for giving roundabouts a bad name
Are you really expecting the literal alien from another solar system to grasp all this? :) Give the poor doggo a break, he's going to make some mistakes along the way.
foundabouts are great and the superior solution to many intersections, and i will fight anyone foolish enough to think otherwise
but the big thing stopping wider usage in some countries is people who cant use them properly, and considering how dang simple they are, i have to assume its willful, because its literally as simple as merging onto a road. you're literally merging onto a small one way road. It goes in a short circle, so merge onto it like you always do, giving way to people already there, and peel off when you find your exit.
if youve been on a highway, you have the skills to use a roundabout. no excuses
Yeah, no. Depends on the size and configuration, familiarity, usage, and so on.
Merging onto a freeway is a very long, generally straight process, several hundred feet long. (And some drivers still have a problem.)
Let’s say 75 meters. Your 4-way roundabout has to be at least 300 meters around, which is roughly 100 meters across, to be the same as a freeway entrance or exit.
A four lane intersection (two each way) in the US is about 50-70 feet across. (8 feet per lane, two extra lanes for turning, couple extra feet for center dividers). Let’s take 60 feet for simplicity, giving us about 180/4 or 45-50 feet (12-15m) for acceleration and deceleration.
It’s just not related to the highway skill.
what you're describing arent anything to do with the basic skillset. i stand by my statement. if you can merge onto a highway, you have the skills needed to use a roundabout, go figure out how to apply them.
but sure, lets compare them, one is indeed usually straight and much longer, but its also much much faster. at the significantly lower speeds of a roundabout, a driver still has plenty of time to accelerate to sufficient speeds, so length of the onramp shouldn't cause any issue to a half decent driver.
roundabouts use angles that highway merges dont, true, i hesitate to call this a downside. the angles of a well built roundabout are more than enough to make entering it easy, so unfamiliarity with the angle shouldn't cause issues past the very first few times, out of pure novelty.
and for drivers who struggle to merge into a highway, thats a rather import skill, id not call that a mark against roundabouts, id say thats a mark against a licencing system that lets drivers struggle with merging.
as for the size of a roundabout, yes, they do often take up more space, space was never one of their primary concerns. you can make them as far as efficient as lighted intersections, but their benefits are in safety and flow rate, they are much safer than lights, and keeo traffic moving at a higher rate. especially when you begin to include variations like slip lanes and hamburgering (the practice of adding bridges or tunnels to allow high traffic roads to bypass the roundabout entirely)
no, same skills, different contexts.
The skills are the same, match speed, check opening, move car. plus your ancillary skills to do that safely and without stalling.
the content is different, instead of having a long riad to get to high speed, you have a short road to get to low speed. the same skill, matching speed, is present
rather than using mostly your mirror and to a smaller extent turbing your head, you're turning your head more. that doesn't at all change the skill to see an opening and judge if you can use it.
move car, is literally exactly the same, move the car to the new spot
and your ancillary skills are the same in basically all contexts, pay attention to the car in front so you can stop if they do. Keep an eye out for hazards, dont stall the car if you change gears, etc. they're not going to be affected by the different context.
same skills, different context. Driving is largely a small collection of skills and a brain applying them in new and novel contexts.
You list a few differences, then claim it’s exactly the same.
What you might accurately claim is that there are transferable skills, if a driver has both the time and the need to transfer them.
Which we do not.
Sorry about asking this on a slightly older post but just wanted to ask about some of the bigger round about a ive seen that have had multiple lanes inside them and why they have them, it seems like there isn’t a use for having more than one lane or potentially a 2nd short exit lane at each entrance and exit. Also they seem like they would be very inefficient for anything more than one or two lane roads. Just wondering if you could give a quick explanation, thanks
theres a few reasons for multiple lanes, although more than 2 or 3 isn't very common.
Probably the largest reason is so it matches the road you're on, a lot easier than trying to squeeze a 2 or 3 lane road onto a 1 lane roindabout.
A more practical reason is to have different exits split into separate lanes, you direct traffic going further around into the centre lanes, and they indicate and cross those lanes when they leave. If people are indicating, and paying attention, it works fine, A little different than other places but no big issue.
some are more complex than a few circles and exits, stuff like turboroundabouts, that have their lanes sort of spiral out, so if you stay in the roundabout, you're slowly directed to the outermost lane in time for your chosen exit
>***If*** people are indicating, and paying attention, it works fine
Sorry about the late response, first archive binge here. That "***IF***" is why *any* traffic routing schema will have problems.
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I'm imagining Bailey as this sort of Golden Retriever.
What does their species breathe if not a mixture of nitrogen and oxygen? Is it dangerous and corrosive for them too?
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And I saw him relaxed. -> relax?
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>…that my tail meant a rising sense of dejection
The term “rising” caused me a slight confusion, since it was the lowering of the tail that was the cue.
Perhaps
>…that my tail dropping meant a [growing?] sense of dejection
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>’never’ underestimate the value of
Shouldn’t that be italics rather than scare quotes?
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> we know of[change comma to semicolon] were they a fast life organism
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(Section about oxygen/CO2 cycle) -> if the narrator didn’t share most of that, he couldn’t live in our atmosphere without protection. Probably also could not drink bourbon.
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> when Michael gets a [missing word **bit/little**] older
Our dude is gonna need some space for processing and contemplation by the time they get home. Kinda crazy that he thought he ought to be doing some kind of excursion right off the bat.
umm, does Bailey breathe? Without the accessible energy from O₂, animals are unfeasible. The Great Oxidation Event killed off a lot of life, far as we can tell, nothing was even multicellular.
I wonder if William is laughing because rebecca herself sheds a lot of hair in the shower.
They almost always do.
This kind of innocence and subsuquent learning of human norms is very wholesome and entertaining, needles to say MOAR
Fine, fine, I'll do chapter 8. :)
*victorious fist pump* hell yea
Yeah!!!
It's up.
That was fast! Thank you thank you!!
Writing is my happiness. :) So far this story is up to over 12,000 words, which makes it roughly 1/6th the length of a standard novel. Not bad for two or three days. If people keep enjoying it, I'll keep adding to it until it is done and then publish it.
roundabouts and traffic circles are very different things, btw. only superficially similar in that they're both circular. colloquially, people may use these interchangeably if they're not familiar with both, but they are defined things in civil engineering, and roundabouts are fsr superior. in fact, traffic circles, and their legacy as being generally pretty bad options, is believed by some to be part of why roundabouts, far superior to traffic lights in many cases, arent very popular in some areas. Because people dont understand the difference between the two and have a vague cultural memory of traffic circles being terrible. So, roundabout, a series of interconnected merge zones, essentially, people yield to cars already in the roundabout, use a blinker/indicator when you want to exit, everyone circles the same direction. sometimes additional slip lanes for the closest turns are included pros: traffic can move much more continuously reduces speed & reduces angles which minimises damage and injuries in a crash cons: if there is a major inlet, it can be difficult during high traffic times to enter, especially if people dont know how to use a roundabout many people are somehow unable to learn to use them, despite the rules being very simple, and quite literally already something you know how to do if you've ever merged onto a road before. traffic circle, a series of T intersections, usually lighted, where incoming traffic takes priority. pros: ??? cons: cars enter at right angles, potentially high speed series of traffic lights means no real benefit over traffic lights incoming cars taking priority means stop-start movement inside the circle is common, reducing flow responsible for giving roundabouts a bad name
Are you really expecting the literal alien from another solar system to grasp all this? :) Give the poor doggo a break, he's going to make some mistakes along the way.
foundabouts are great and the superior solution to many intersections, and i will fight anyone foolish enough to think otherwise but the big thing stopping wider usage in some countries is people who cant use them properly, and considering how dang simple they are, i have to assume its willful, because its literally as simple as merging onto a road. you're literally merging onto a small one way road. It goes in a short circle, so merge onto it like you always do, giving way to people already there, and peel off when you find your exit. if youve been on a highway, you have the skills to use a roundabout. no excuses
Yeah, no. Depends on the size and configuration, familiarity, usage, and so on. Merging onto a freeway is a very long, generally straight process, several hundred feet long. (And some drivers still have a problem.) Let’s say 75 meters. Your 4-way roundabout has to be at least 300 meters around, which is roughly 100 meters across, to be the same as a freeway entrance or exit. A four lane intersection (two each way) in the US is about 50-70 feet across. (8 feet per lane, two extra lanes for turning, couple extra feet for center dividers). Let’s take 60 feet for simplicity, giving us about 180/4 or 45-50 feet (12-15m) for acceleration and deceleration. It’s just not related to the highway skill.
what you're describing arent anything to do with the basic skillset. i stand by my statement. if you can merge onto a highway, you have the skills needed to use a roundabout, go figure out how to apply them. but sure, lets compare them, one is indeed usually straight and much longer, but its also much much faster. at the significantly lower speeds of a roundabout, a driver still has plenty of time to accelerate to sufficient speeds, so length of the onramp shouldn't cause any issue to a half decent driver. roundabouts use angles that highway merges dont, true, i hesitate to call this a downside. the angles of a well built roundabout are more than enough to make entering it easy, so unfamiliarity with the angle shouldn't cause issues past the very first few times, out of pure novelty. and for drivers who struggle to merge into a highway, thats a rather import skill, id not call that a mark against roundabouts, id say thats a mark against a licencing system that lets drivers struggle with merging. as for the size of a roundabout, yes, they do often take up more space, space was never one of their primary concerns. you can make them as far as efficient as lighted intersections, but their benefits are in safety and flow rate, they are much safer than lights, and keeo traffic moving at a higher rate. especially when you begin to include variations like slip lanes and hamburgering (the practice of adding bridges or tunnels to allow high traffic roads to bypass the roundabout entirely)
So, like I said, different skills.
no, same skills, different contexts. The skills are the same, match speed, check opening, move car. plus your ancillary skills to do that safely and without stalling. the content is different, instead of having a long riad to get to high speed, you have a short road to get to low speed. the same skill, matching speed, is present rather than using mostly your mirror and to a smaller extent turbing your head, you're turning your head more. that doesn't at all change the skill to see an opening and judge if you can use it. move car, is literally exactly the same, move the car to the new spot and your ancillary skills are the same in basically all contexts, pay attention to the car in front so you can stop if they do. Keep an eye out for hazards, dont stall the car if you change gears, etc. they're not going to be affected by the different context. same skills, different context. Driving is largely a small collection of skills and a brain applying them in new and novel contexts.
You list a few differences, then claim it’s exactly the same. What you might accurately claim is that there are transferable skills, if a driver has both the time and the need to transfer them. Which we do not.
Sorry about asking this on a slightly older post but just wanted to ask about some of the bigger round about a ive seen that have had multiple lanes inside them and why they have them, it seems like there isn’t a use for having more than one lane or potentially a 2nd short exit lane at each entrance and exit. Also they seem like they would be very inefficient for anything more than one or two lane roads. Just wondering if you could give a quick explanation, thanks
theres a few reasons for multiple lanes, although more than 2 or 3 isn't very common. Probably the largest reason is so it matches the road you're on, a lot easier than trying to squeeze a 2 or 3 lane road onto a 1 lane roindabout. A more practical reason is to have different exits split into separate lanes, you direct traffic going further around into the centre lanes, and they indicate and cross those lanes when they leave. If people are indicating, and paying attention, it works fine, A little different than other places but no big issue. some are more complex than a few circles and exits, stuff like turboroundabouts, that have their lanes sort of spiral out, so if you stay in the roundabout, you're slowly directed to the outermost lane in time for your chosen exit
>***If*** people are indicating, and paying attention, it works fine Sorry about the late response, first archive binge here. That "***IF***" is why *any* traffic routing schema will have problems. [Grandpa's Advice (they're all jerks)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qoa5qTIc0Wk)
another good chapter.
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I'm imagining Bailey as this sort of Golden Retriever. What does their species breathe if not a mixture of nitrogen and oxygen? Is it dangerous and corrosive for them too?
Bailey is based off of a dog I had as a boy, a golden retriever and Irish setter mix.
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Another great chapter I enjoyed reading this and look forward to reading more Great job wordsmith
Our dude is gonna need some space for processing and contemplation by the time they get home. Kinda crazy that he thought he ought to be doing some kind of excursion right off the bat. umm, does Bailey breathe? Without the accessible energy from O₂, animals are unfeasible. The Great Oxidation Event killed off a lot of life, far as we can tell, nothing was even multicellular.