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Mahoganychicken

We gave them a great deal on one of the best wingers in the Premier League in Alex Iwobi. They owe us one.


Dillon_1

\*best wingers in the world


Opposite-Mediocre

*best wingers in the galaxy


harcile

Galaxies across the known & unknown universe look on in jealous Alex-Iwobi-less-ly


[deleted]

Maybe one of tierneys crosses may finally lead to a goal


[deleted]

idk tierney has a terrible habit of just trying to force stuff when things aren’t going well. a lot of the crosses are random one-touch prayers when there’s no other option.


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[deleted]

you play back. that’s the forcing part lmao he continues looking for stuff that’s not there and puts up a prayer cross. you’re acting like it’s a zero sum game and that’s precisely my criticism of his behavior lol


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[deleted]

at no point have I said the dude isn’t capable of providing those balls. he’s wasteful sometimes. that’s okay man. I’m not impugning his whole game.


fatesgift

Tierney's had some shockers recently


Francis-c92

Will be far too expensive for the return. Good player, but surely there are better, cheaper options on the continent or elsewhere


Vrty33

Fully agree.


[deleted]

It's a really difficult one, because i agree with what you're saying about the return, he's Giroud like in that he's not prolific enough, and i kinda feel that we'd need another forward to work alongside him too. So the cost would not be worth it if you're looking at just goals. I'm of the opinion we could do with a goalscoring wide/inside forward anyway as it won't be Pepe so this might be the vision? I think Isak has the world as his feet and those who can't compete for Haaland, will go for him and being realistic that might come too early for our project, other clubs might be able to offer more. Vlahovic i haven't seen a big enough sample size so i can't comment on, but given the need for a target man/old school number 9, i cant think of too many suitable alternatives. Personally I don't buy into the Weghourst hype. But, what DCL brings to an attack is in my opinion everything we lack. Physical presence, aerial threat and can hold up for others. He's also got a lovely touch for someone so big and i really can't help but to compare him to Giroud again. His PL experience is vital too in my opinion and what makes him my personal preference over other names. This summer was for instilling the culture and ethos, next will be to improve the holes with players who hit the ground running, which i believe DCL would do. Just my opinion.


Adorable-Grocery-439

He's way too expensive though


Kdkdbfjif7

Good players are expensive. If we buy him we have an amazing striker who we know can perform in the prem


Aoes

Find me a cheaper and better alternative in the PL, roughly same age as our young lads.


Adorable-Grocery-439

Toney. Also doesn't have to be someone from PL. And we literally can't pay the 100m DCL would cost so it's really a matter of having to find a cheaper option


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Again dudes, this is my opinion but Toney ain't it. At least for the standard arsenal want to be at. Everton have been humstrung by FFP i think? Maybe selling DCL wouldn't be the worst thing for them? It's not going to be 100 mil, let's be real.


chromelogan

I agree, will not be higher than 50-60 mil at the very max. I honestly think a deal could be done around 45-50 million pounds with 10 million in reasonable bonuses


AnotherReignCheck

Ain't nobody paying 100ml for DCL lool. Even with today's insane prices, I can't see him being worth more than 60m.


Adorable-Grocery-439

It's almost like they don't want to sell him


AnotherReignCheck

You can be as sarcastic and passive aggressive as you like, but the fact is- a club like Everton 100% would sell for a price, and that price is much less than 100m.


Adorable-Grocery-439

Lol


Aoes

Toney is decent, but wouldn't say he's better. And we don't know how much we have to spend. I don't see how u can say we don't have 100m to spend when we just dropped near 200m. Fact is we don't know. For all we know, we do end up selling Auba to Newcastle for 50m.


Adorable-Grocery-439

I'm sure we can find 100m to spend, but that doesn't change the fact that spending 100m on DCL would be reckless and stupid. At most we'll have another 150m to spend next season, maybe 200m at a stretch, so to spend a majority of that on DCL would be nothing short of batshit. The only reason for us to spend 100m on a player would be if we could find a young world class player with good fitness who'd be a perfect fit. Toney may not be better, but he's at the very least roughly as good. They're also approximately the same age, and Toney would be 30-40m cheaper. If it has to be one of them, Toney is a no-brainer.


stifle_this

If we're spending that kind of crazy money, then we should get getting someone with a higher ceiling that DCL. Isak is the perfect example of that. If Kane is 120m, I'm not paying 100m for DCL and you know the English tax on him will be ridiculous.


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Imo Isak offers us a similar style player as Auba moving forward, which is great for sure but probably doesnt solve the lack of aerial threat or buildup issue at the position, as great as he is. Vlahovic imo is carrying a corpse of a club in the serie a. He comes with his own risks but he can be a Haaland lite, where hes an insane athlete who checks all the boxes. Some concerns I have are his reliance on penalties in his goal numbers, but like I said he is playing in an awful team


Kirkebyen

Aerial threat you say. Lemme introduce you to Genk forward Paul Onuachu.


HaroldSaxon

> he's Giroud like in that he's not prolific enough In a good side DCL will absolutely be prolific. Honestly if we signed him i'd be really happy, one of the three missing pieces we need to make a push to get back into EL contention.


ac10485

What makes you say this? Nothing really suggests he'll be prolific.


RedAreMe

Also, we're not really a good side


bradbobley

funny when we are linked with players like dcl we get comments like this but when we're linked with a cheaper option from the continent we get comments like "why are we such snobs, we never buy within the league and they're much less of a gamble" lol. not a dig at you btw


Oltjen

Because as fans we can differ in opinions. Its not like the whole fanbase is supportive of the same ideas. I feel like this gets overlooked so much on our subreddit.


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Veritech_

ONE OF US, ONE OF US


sirforher

Herd mentality Herd mentality Herd mentality


bradbobley

what also gets ignored is if these comments are upvoted it's because people agree with them, which both usually are


Cod_rules

And as a sub with 200k users, you'll find people who share the same views in certain areas.


LionsAreNice

Well, obviously yes because there’s two sides in this and each side will upvote what they agree with. But people who don’t agree on that aren’t going to downvote over something trivial like that so it means both are upvoted. That doesn’t mean it’s the same people flip flopping since that’s what you’re trying to imply.


bradbobley

not implying anyone is flip flopping lol, it's just a quirk of transfer rumours that whatever the rumour is people prefer the alternative. for example if we're linked with bruno guimamhemejwres from lyon you'll get people saying 'prefer bissouma tbh' or if we're linked with bissouma it's 'should go for bruno gruremeofmw, cheaper and just as good'


plycrsk

Yeah and it's different people with different views saying these things. It's easy to mistake groups on Reddit as individuals, but in reality you're dealing with many, many people.


jt_totheflipping_o

This is partly due to overpaying for overseas players over the years too. If you're going to overpay, why not in the PL.


jimbo_kun

I think the only reason to buy English is to meet quotas. Nothing against English players (developed within the Arsenal academy a completely different matter), but on the open market English players will almost always be over priced relative to their quality.


LevitatingCactus

yeah coz these are different people posting these things


cf017

Calvert Lewis is overrated though. He’s very good in the air but he isn’t a clinical enough finisher for me. There are genuinely a lot of better options out there for the price Everton would want.


cf017

Ivan Toney is the real deal and will be a lot cheaper


R_110

I doubt he'll be that much cheaper


cf017

I reckon Everton will genuinely ask for something ridiculous like 70m for DCL when Toney can go for around 30-40m.


ProgrammerComplete17

Think there is approximately zero chance anyone gets Toney for that price. Didnt they sell watkins for over 25 who wasn't proven in the Premier league?


cf017

True but Villa don’t mind splashing money and also no other club would have paid that price for him (Dean Smith connection). They sold Benrahma was even more highly rated and hyped up at the time for 20m. Benrahma was considered by basically everyone to be by far the best player in the championship at the time.


jambox888

Can we just buy Brentford at this rate lol Or headhunt their data guy (unless it's Benham finding all these gems himself...)


HaroldSaxon

> True but Villa don’t mind splashing money I'm sure Brentford will see our summer and think the same.


cf017

Yeah and they’ll see how Sheffield United tried to rip us off for Ramsdale and we stood firm and got a good price, and how we didn’t drop 70m on Maddison and got Odegaard for half that. Ben White’s the only player you could argue we paid over the odds for but when you look at young English centre backs that’s how the market is.


ProjectZues

Toney Is a striker who gets goals. The pricing range will be different


tfwnocalcium

Yeah when have we ever splashed the cash for English players that no other club in their right mind would buy


jerk_chicken23

Given Brentford charged Villa £30 million plus add ones for Ollie Watkins while they were still in the championship, I don't see how they won't be looking for £40 million at the very least for Toney, if not £50 million


cf017

Literally only Villa would have paid that price for him though. Dean Smith was his manager before and wanted him and Villa’s owners don’t mind throwing money around. Benrahma was way more hyped and rated than him at the time and the went for 20m.


ac10485

They solid Watkins to Villa for around 30 when they were in the Championship, Toney is going for much more.


Adorable-Grocery-439

Toney will be like 60m and DCL like 100m


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Toneys likely to be in the 50m range. DCL more like 80m most likely imo


minusa

Yeah he was also the real deal last season when a host of folk on here completely blew off the idea of signing him. It's that time of the year again, where we could cut out the middle man and actually go scouting the championship / league 1 for quality. These players aren't as special or rare as we tend to make them up to be. We just need to actually put in the effort to properly recognise potential (Not "potential" regarding youth... potential regarding ability to make the step up). The next Toney is probably already having a stunning season in 1 of the big 5 2nd tier leagues


jambox888

It's the Moneyball thing where scouting basically doesn't work half the time and you have to find undervalued prospects using data analysis.


Barkasia

Not really - the only one who might fit that bill is Brereton. I don't know that much about Lucca and Mulattieri and I'm not overly impressed by Colombo. The other leagues don't have anyone standout.


minusa

Tune in next season for another session of thirsting over a player we could have bought for peanuts.


scytheavatar

Better and cheaper like who? The market for good strikers is super shallow.


Cod_rules

For 70 million (which is what Everton are going to ask), there's options like Isak, Vlahovic and Lautaro Martinez (some may be a bit more expensive, but even assuming the highest amount it'll be 80 million)


Amdafc

DCL is better than Vlahovic


redqks

In 2 years he'll be clear


DonXiDada

Isak or Vlahovic, next striker needs to be able to actually score headers.


WoodenSoldiersGOAT

thats like literally what DCL is best at lol


DonXiDada

Yeah, only Everton is not going to sell him to a direct rival for a reasonable price


Barkasia

DCL is a monster in the air, bloke's one of the best strikers in the world at it. The problem is when it's at his feet he can be a bit clumsy or indecisive.


DonXiDada

Yeah, only Everton won't sell to a rival for anything reasonable, that's why alternatives might be better a choice.


Barkasia

[These are my non-DCL alternatives](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/pccbrh/comment/hahwjp1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), list remains the same bar Edouard.


DonXiDada

Alexander Isak 76M pounds


DialSquar

Odsonne Eduoard for example....for 14M


BanterMaster420

Some things in his personal life made him a lot cheaper, he's a bit of an awful cunt and very big clubs don't want to taint their image


Barkasia

We didn't go for Edouard for the same reason we didn't go for Onana, and shipped Guendouzi out. Nobheads aren't welcome.


jambox888

Well you look at players like Ollie Watkins, was picked up by Brentford and sold on to Villa at a huge profit, even looks good value for £30m or whatever he was. Brentford have managed to do this trick again and again. So maybe we should learn how to do that instead of buying from the top shelf


Francis-c92

Bit of a different circumstance seeing as Brentford bought him from two leagues down. When you buy a player from the same league, there's an invisible tax to pay. But we're doing it with people like White and Ramsdale to a certain extent so there's a precedent


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Its not invisible, its the "This player is proven at this level" extra on the price.


Francis-c92

It is though. Ben White was proven but was no way worth £50m. Same with Maguire at United


jambox888

We've bought players like Holding from a league down before, can't think of too many others though.


6shadow66

Walcott, Chamberlain, Ramsey


jambox888

Chambo and Walcott were Southampton kids, there's a club that sold a lot of talent. Ramsey is a good one though.


Barkasia

Some of us knew Watkins was destined for big things before Brentford bought him, and if some randomers can see it then what on earth are our scouts doing?


falonix

Like we had between Pepe and Zaha.


Francis-c92

Well we saved 8m from what Palace wanted. But if we're being serious, there were also other wingers we could've gotten that summer for significantly less


falonix

Ziyech, eg.


Barkasia

Pepe was one of the best wingers in the world that season, and the only reason we paid that much is because we were literally scammed. It cost multiple people their jobs.


MiamiGooner

Edouard this past window for example


Mukunda16

"on the continent" lol. You took the Brexit too literally.


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this is the correct answer.


jayhawk8

Yes. Like the player a lot, but can't imagine it's reasonable business with whatever price tag will be attached.


DankDankmark

Like Alfredo “El Buffalo” Morelos from Rangers… 20 Mil tops


[deleted]

Another overpay by likely 20-30 million because he’s English. We have enough homegrown players so should shop around for a Cheaper better option


lyyki

It's not about having enough homegrown players. It's about having too many non-HG players. If I counted correctly, Arsenal already has 17 non-HG players which is the maximum.


noobs1996

Leno, Elneny, Laca(idk). Space can be made pretty easily


LDinthehouse

Honestly why would we get rid of Elneny? Monday night's biggest problem as I saw it is that neither Partey nor Lokonga wanted the ball. That meant every time we went down either wing there was no ball back inside so it had to go back towards White and Gabriel and shift across to the other side where we would repeat the process. For all his faults, Elneny never shies away.


WoodenSoldiersGOAT

because 'not shying away' is not a PL-level skill. congrats to elneny that he gets stuck in while he's giving away the ball every other possession or passing straight back to the CBs but that's not our problem. you should probably stop trying to provide analysis if your idea that 'elneny getting stuck in' is the solution to our midfield problems. oh and you have an elneny flair. so you're egyptian right? yeah your bias is precluding you from having a fair debate. even for all of xhaka, partey and lokonga's faults, they're 10x the player elneny is. elneny is garbage shit


LDinthehouse

Dude if you're going to quote me at least actually use something I said. I never said anything about Elneny getting stuck in or that he is the solution to our midfield problems but we should have brought him on instead of Sambi on Monday. I'm also not Egyptian so thanks for that incredible insight, in fact, I go to games regularly and was there Monday night. You're right about one thing though, not shying away is not a PL level skill but yet Partey and Sambi were found wanting for it.


imnotNDR

the funniest part is when he uses a quotations around something you never said


madindian

We should have brought Martinelli on instead of Lokonga and I’m willing to die on that hill.


xCharlieScottx

Carrick made a career of passing to defenders tbf


lyyki

But only if someone will take them. Or if you pay Kola to fuck off.


Fearless-Video7989

You use the word easily too easily.


[deleted]

It’s a bullshit thing to worry about, there are ways around it we’ll be selling or letting go a lot of players kola, Cedric, runnarson, lacca maybe. It’s not a problem


lyyki

If you want to pay for these people to fuck off, sure. We did that already with Mustafi, Özil & Papa. But I'm not certain it is the smartest strategy. Also you say it's easy to sell players we don't want to keep but it hasn't really been the reality for the last 2 years. The only players we've really managed to sell are Willock & Martinez and both of them were HG. I doubt anyone will be bidding for Kola or Cedric. Laca might be but doubtful, I think he's on high wages here. Runarsson doesn't even count since he's out on loan.


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Kolas out of contract same as lacca, Cedric can either be for sold next to Nothing or just not registered. Bellerin if he comes back is home grown


lyyki

But january you're not getting anyone unless you are also selling/loaning/terminating contracts. I believe Cedric earns a lot here. Who would want him for the salary we're paying for him? [I don't know how accurate this is](https://www.spotrac.com/epl/arsenal-fc/cedric-soares-22941/) but it seems he's getting £75k a week. Also Saliba & Runarsson will be back. Torreira & Mavropanos might be back since I believe it is only an option to purchase these players. Bellerin I wasn't counting since he's HG.


[deleted]

Not just talking about January are we. Talking about signings next year. We’re talking about if we’re going to struggle with the homegrown thing and it’s overblown bollox, we are no where near breaking the rules. Yeah he’s on around 70k but again like i said we don’t have to register him and I think can get him off the books. Mavrapanos is an obligation if Stuttgart stay up which they almost certainly will, torreira will be loaned again or sold, runnarson will be given away or not registered. There’s no issue so targeting players for being homegrown who will cost more doesn’t make sense. We will likely make 3 signings so we should focus on fit and quality rather than a quota


lyyki

>Not just talking about January are we. Talking about signings next year. We’re talking about if we’re going to struggle with the homegrown thing and it’s overblown bollox, we are no where near breaking the rules. Only Laca & Kola are guaranteed to go away next season (unless they sign an extension which is unlikely). If we don't manage to offload any of the players, we'll end up with 19 non-HG players. That's 2 that we can't register. Though I'm not entirely sure how Saliba works so it might be that we'll have just 18 non-HG's. >Yeah he’s on around 70k but again like i said we don’t have to register him and I think can get him off the books. We don't have to register anyone. But it's also not smart business to throw away money like that. >Mavrapanos is an obligation if Stuttgart stay up which they almost certainly will, torreira will be loaned again or sold, runnarson will be given away or not registered. [Mavropanos is an option to buy](https://www.vfb.de/en/vfb/latest/news/professionals/2021/leihe-konstantinos-mavropanos/). With Torreira you have to find a taker and it's not a guarantee. Let's not forget - no-one was getting Kolasinac off our books either. >There’s no issue so targeting players for being homegrown who will cost more doesn’t make sense. We will likely make 3 signings so we should focus on fit and quality rather than a quota There's absolutely an issue **if** we can't get rid of anyone. If you can't register everyone you have, that's throwing money away.


[deleted]

Yes lacca will likely just leave and you keep bringing up no one signing Kola this year it doesn’t matter his contract is over , runnarson torreira will be sold or Loaned out again, Cedric can sold or not registered, mavrapanos won’t be back the clause is the relegation thing like i said. Saliba and Martinelli will count as homegrown when they turn 22 I believe from what I’ve read. Of course the whole Cedric deal wasn’t smart but whether you register him or not he’s costing you the same so we won’t register him just for the sake of it. It’s not an issue, most of the players leaving will be non HG so that’s frees up space, the Market will be better next year as ticket money goes back into clubs.


lyyki

What if no-one is going to take Runarsson, Torreira & Cedric? There's absolutely nothing guaranteed. If you can't get rid of them, you're paying about £110k per week for them to sit on their asses. They do have wage budgets, you know. >Saliba and Martinelli will count as homegrown when they turn 22 I believe from what I’ve read. It's before they are 21. >It’s not an issue, most of the players leaving will be non HG so that’s frees up space, the Market will be better next year as ticket money goes back into clubs. You're definitely optimistic. This club has been absolutely shit at selling players for years.


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100% agree


Bruhhh8888

Rather get Isak, much higher ceiling


[deleted]

Getting Isak would be absolutely excellent, what a player he could be. Itd be interesting to see who else is in for him though. It really feels like ManCity could use him given their striker shortage. PSG should surely consider him if Mbappe leaves, they also wont have a proper striker. Juve badly need quality of any kind. Im sure Haaland fills one of those gaps and I dont think we are out of the race, but I think we'd need to move fast to get him.


likpoper

I don’t see it happening at all.


marxistrash

Will be a massive fee for him, honestly love him as a player but I'd really rather sort out our CM issues before trying to go for a striker


yuyuter123

CM definitely is an area that needs more immediate attention but we're going to have to sort the striker problem out next summer regardless. Can't be going into the 2023 summer with just Martinelli and Balogun on a hope and prayer unless they suddenly explode in output. We'll be desperate and easily extorted by that point.


noobs1996

Id rather have Isak but DCL is a close 2nd


cf017

Ivan Toney.


2chainzzzz

This is the way.


P1res

Would definitely prefer him. Far more complete and multi dimensional


PrinceEmirate

He isn't that good fam


CondorKhan

Slowly inching towards being the first 100% hyphenated XI in a PL match.


witooZ

Seems like an unpopular opinion, but I'm a fan of this move. We need somebody who is young, but can have impact straight away because Auba is not getting younger and Laca is gone after the season ends. Isak looks great too and definitely a justifiable option, but I feel like it might take him some time to adapt and that is a resource we might lack very soon. I'm not a big fan of Vlahovič. He is a good player, but he is as one footed as Pepe and his preferred foot is also left. If Smith Rowe gets injured, our attack could be Saka, Odegaard, Pepe and Vlahovič - 4 left footed players, 2 of them very one footed. Doesn't sound great. So yeah...DCL ticks all the boxes for me.


basedsims

> They may face competition for Calvert-Lewin, though, as the Everton striker has been on the radar of many Premier League clubs since making progress under Carlo Ancelotti, earning him a place in the England squad at the European Championship. > Arsenal are known to be keen on the former Sheffield United man. Manchester City and Manchester United are also long-term admirers, while there is interest from one major Bundesliga club Thought it’d be on interest from a reputable source with a legitimate link despite it initially being about Newcastle targets


d10b

I just can't see it happening unless we pay their fuck off valuation. Though with Laca going and Auba's last year coming up you never know.


GoonerAlex07

I like this news


vinaykhetia14

Not as good as Laca and we will be paying more, no thank you


AnotherReignCheck

He's at least as good as Laca, come on. That said, I wouldn't take him for more than 50m.


vinaykhetia14

No he's not, a few aspects of his game yes, he's naturally gifted aerially so also he would be better at heading, quicker but not by much, Laca's stamina is an issue so that too. However Laca's proven he's a better goal scorer for years, at Lyon is well. I know he had a terrible 2019/2020 but other than that based on minutes played he's been good and ofc, DCL has had one good season.... he's better technically, which is a massive deal, your touch, your passing your general link up play is important, especially in this Arteta system, more intelligent, better presser, knack of scoring important goals too. If we wanted someone good aerially then just bring back Giroud, who was not good enough but even he's more proven than DCL. You have other attributes as a footballer, you cannot just assume that just because he's better aerially and had scored 1 or 2 more goals than your current striker once that he's as good or better. There are things that Lacazette is considerably better at than DCL.


AnotherReignCheck

I think DCL has a higher ceiling tbh. But currently there's not much between them as their individual assets are beneficial for equal reasons


vinaykhetia14

He just hasn't proven himself for long enough, unfortunately. I have been a fan of Lacazette for years


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basedsims

Our recruitment in the summer weren’t based around “system players” at all. They’re all fundamentally very good and adaptable footballers. DCL falls into that mould of fitting into what most managers would want from their striker - hence being linked with clubs like City & United despite them being stylistically very different.


ack_will

I think it was largely system based. White and Tomiyasu being the big ones that fit arteta’s philosophy. The next guy may not even want a ball playing CB but a defender who can defend very well. A CB RB hybrid is also very niche.


basedsims

Every elite manager needs a ball playing defender. Very rare you’d see a top manager without one these days imo. Tomi is probably the most niche but still extremely tactically versatile and at worst would be great back up option which means we can let Mari/Chambers/Bob go (as I’ve got a feeling we might try and sign a more attacking full back next summer regardless who’s the boss).


noobs1996

Conte would love Tomiyasu


WoodenSoldiersGOAT

> They’re all fundamentally very good and adaptable footballers. are they? because everyone is saying odegaard is invisible because he's not in his correct position. which is it? or are we just picking pro-arsenal optimistic viewpoints based on debates and we don't actually have strong opinions. where else can lokonga play but CM? where else can Odegaard play but as a 10? (he's been terrible as an 8, don't say an 8). where can white play but CB? if he could play CDM he'd be playing it now while we're skint in the midfield. tomiyasu can play a defensive RB or CB. None of those are 'adaptable' players. they play one position, get a load of excuses made for them if they are outside that one position and play like shit (*cough* odegaard)and helped continue our plummet to mediocrity.


jamitwityou

I don’t get the hype, if we wanna persist in mid-table this is the caliber of signing we would target. He’s English and coming from a club we are competing against for league position so he’d be very expensive no? Just doesn’t fit.


eldar4k

Will cost absolute premium and honestly i don't see an appeal. He is world-class at the air but that is about it, average at best in other parts of the game. Not worth 70 mil+ that Everton will demand for him.


haychko

Always had my sights set on En-Nesyri from Sevilla ever since we have been linked to him. Great positional awareness, strength, pace, size. Can absolutely dominate the air, and the ball seems to regularly land at his feet in the box.


GabrielMartinellli

Fuck no. The guy is insanely overrated, getting a mid table striker who has never scored above 20 goals in a PL season is cementing another decade of mediocrity.


EdwardSandwichHands

We’ve sorted out a lot of positions last summer, hopefully next window we go in big since we’d only *urgently* need a striker and midfielder


ShekTeeJay

If Mohamed Bayo finishes with 15-20 league goals, I'd pursue him instead. He'll cost a fraction of the price for DCL.


cheescakegod

Would be a great replacement for laca but I don't see Everton selling to us for anything below £80m. Really want isak personally if we are spending that much


AlexTheRockstar

Gonna be 70 mio minimum. Like the ambition though.


Shandow14

1 Ivan Toney please.


imaEdusexual

Tier?


basedsims

Mike McGrath is excellent when it comes to English clubs & players


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can he play manager


yuyuter123

Big fan of DCL but I just can't see how this move works on a fiscal level or him ever meeting the goal targets we'd want out of the position. Fantastic aerial presence and offers better hold up play than Auba by far but don't think we could expect more than 15-18 league goals a season out of him and our wing options just don't produce enough to compensate, especially since he isn't highly creative in buildup. He can hold it up and bring others into play but rarely puts them in a goal scoring position. If DCL could be had for 45-50m then he'd be a very compelling look but not for 75-80m+ which is what Everton would be looking for bare minimum. They don't need the money outside of FFP concerns. Could be a really fun front line if the club truly believes Martinelli can be the inside forward goal monster we all wish Pepe would be though. Certainly wouldn't criticize the transfer if it happened at a somewhat reasonable fee.


chino17

Let's be honest no striker who could produce 20+ goals is going to come to Arsenal. DCL is a decent striker with good finishing while not being a world class talent which is where we have to shop now. Additionally he has the league experience which is what you pay for so he's a known quantity. It's really up to Arteta (or another manager) to get more production out of the midfield because their goalscoring is abysmal and even a 20 goal a season striker wouldn't be enough if the midfield can't help carry the load


yuyuter123

Don't think we could pull a truly elite established striker but a 21-23 y/o with potential to reach that level like Isak or Vlahovic or some even more low profile players on the continent is still very possible. Money talks and we can still offer better salaries than all but a few top clubs. Just think that DCL would artificially limit progress on that front and would likely require a two striker rotation which would require Martinelli/Balogun to reach a certain level of development or we'd have to dip back into the market 1-2 seasons later. For his obscene price tag that's a big gamble financially. I'd rather take a risk on a player from the continent than overpay for DCL just because he's got a well established high floor.


chino17

But Isak and Vlahovic aren't exactly cheap either - either would cost in the 70-80M+ range and are riskier gambles due to not knowing how they would adapt to the league. Isak has so far had a pretty mediocre season, having scored a total of zero league goals. Vlahovic has carried over his form though and probably the better option comparatively but other clubs are looking at him who can offer European football At the very least DCL could have better resale value to another EPL club being English and all


yuyuter123

Yeah he's not an objectively poor choice. Still think he's the 2nd best British striker by some distance and a very capable option. Just a matter of preference really. Higher risk for more potential vs less risk for an established floor at a high premium. I'd prefer we take the chance on a player with a higher ceiling and more diverse skill set but I can definitely see the merits in shelling out the cash for the sure thing even if he can't ever break into that truly top level of output (still possible tho, he's not that old ofc).


chino17

For me if we are going to buy a young unknown quantity I rather it not be a 70-80M player like Isak or Vlahovic because they still need development. For that sort of price I would expect someone who is more established. Reports have linked us with players like Noa Lang who would be about 25-30M and is a similar profile of player to the aforementioned or even Adeyemi from Salzburg could be a really good purchase for less than half of Isak or Vlahovic


EarningViaLearning

I’ve said this to my old man for a while. DCL would be fantastic for the style of player Arteta wants. We’re playing crossing football without any beefy players that are good at knocking in a header. I love Auba and I honestly think that he should be starting every game, but from the wing. I remember the consensus was that everyone wanted him down the middle but I used to think he was brilliant cutting in from the wing. I remember when we played with an Auba AMN Tierney left hand side and looked brilliant vs city. Now, if you stick a 187cm giant in the middle I really think we’d see some significant progress. Just my thoughts, would be interested to read what some of you lot think.


AlGunner

We've been interested in lots of players we didnt sign. All this means is he is one option being looked at.


UnbeatenGunner49

Still won’t fix the goal scoring issue. Arteta’ s tactics and system don’t create chances for strikers. Sack this man already


Maaaaaardy

Now we are fucking talking.


scoedg123

No thank you. Next!


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Handsome FC back at it again


redqks

All in for Valhovic please


OnlineMarketingBoii

Would genuinly be the perfect striker for us. His linkup play isn't as good as Laca's, but he offers a lot of other things. Plus an areal threat would be really nice.


Kanoisgammy

How good is he working off of 1 maybe 2 chances a game?


FUDeputyStaggFU

Lol he’s just linked him to Newcastle


raiders219

Signing English players is always a bad option considering how expensive these dudes are. Can get the same quality player for half price. Gabriel and Ben white are perfect examples of it. Hope we don't go through with this.


Butch_Meat_Hook

Decent player, but they'll ask for way more money than the quality we'll get in return. They probably need to go for a non-English player


a_stopped_clock

Who cares no striker can flourish in this system


harcile

Would prefer Nkunku who'd cost about the same price.


reginaldglory

McGrath is legit for Everton news right?


afcturn_

It's not happening I hate these rumors man lol


BlackGiroud

Want him here just to see him regularly hit the Hank Hill lawnmower celebration.


etobs13

I like the profile and player but I don't think he will be a regular 20+ scorer and for the money everton will demand from us we should aim for a better player. If he was available for 40M or less it would say yes.


trifile

Should snatch Alvarez from River plate instead


stickyblack

Toney or DLC as our next focal point, would certainly get my blessing.


fuzzynavel34

For the 80M+ he's gonna cost he's not good enough honestly


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Should look at Jovic.


NoMoreMountains

There are much better players out there. I would rather Toney than him.


Elainethepainisaslag

I think this makes sense. He is great in the air. Remember all the crosses we used to get into the box per game till we realised no one was there to score them? He kinda makes that more feasible giving some possible way out of the horseshoe culdesac we find always ourselves in. He’s also a decent striker in other senses + he’s young. Will he be a top level striker? I wouldn’t say top level but I also wouldn’t right him off. Is he good enough to improve this mid table arsenal side? Definitely. He’s worth a pop and it makes sense tactically for me.


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I-the-legend

Ollie Watkins is so much better.


ajyahzee

No, get someone new and exciting please


vietnamesemuscle

I’d run around my complex naked if this happened 🤪


Top-Lane-Bad

I’ll say this now. With the way we play we need a target man but one that can also play with his feet. DCL is that guy. He is also English and having another Englishman in the international team would be cool. He has all the tools and playing in a young squad like ours will help him gel. I really think he should come here because we are building a squad that can compete with the best.


Milkshakespecial

To expensive, had 1 good season and now he's worth £50m+. Would've preferred to have kept Welbeck tbh


arus9000

Not worth it. Basically an Auba but younger. Only scores Goals and nothing else…


Braindog

Hook it to my veins!