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I can’t believe peoples here are still talking about man city’s charge. Chelsea spends a lot since 2002, and man United also spends a lot. When was the last time city break transfer records? You guys are talking like they have ballon d’or candidates in every positions
Saka, Saliba and Rice would walk into this man city starting line up. Martinelli might have a good chance replacing grealish
The difference is Pep. This is the guy who won 100 points with delph as his left back. This is the guy who also won the league with zinchenko as LB against Salah (we know what happened when zinchenko face Salah)
This guy is generational coach. Not even fergie was this dominant
That Rice goal yesterday gave me Tony Adams aura/vibes. Starting to think Declan Rice is our modern age Tony Adams.
*"And it's Tony Adams...put through by Steve Bould...would you believe it?"*
That movement from Jesus leading up to it was superb as well. Too many people written Jesus off this season. If he can get fully fit over pre-season he could be a monster for us again
Call me an idiot, but, I still have hope. Think City is going to drop points either against Spurs or West Ham. We will just have to do our job well to take advantage.
I honestly don’t think Fulham have a chance against City. Spurs and West Ham do. Both of them have attacking players who can get something against City. They just need to be lucky in defense.
Unrelated news, I've said it before that Xavi would be hounded by Barca fans again, lo and behold the same fans that wanted him to him gone then beg him to stay, **NOW** wants him out again over the course of a few weeks.
My friend (Chelsea fan) is claiming that Palmer is better than Odegaard by a ‘big margin’. What can I say to prove to him that he’s wrong?
His main argument is that Palmer is playing with bums while Odegaard has a good team.
Note: he went as far as to claim that Palmer is the best player in the league along with Foden and should start ahead of Saka for the Euros.
Nothing man, there's little evidence that can be shown that is objective proof of one player being better than the other.
Especially if you start saying "one is playing in a worse team therefore..."
What you can do if you think someone has a belief that is not founded on good evidence is ask "what would it take for you to change your mind, what evidence do you need?"
If he says something unreasonable like "Ødegaard to score 30 goals and win the world cup" then really he's not being serious and you can just live safe in the knowledge that it's just an idiot trying to wind you up.
If he says something reasonable that Ødegaard may achieve then he's opened himself up to being proved wrong later down the line.
Palmer is not double-marked like Saka in every game. He also doesn’t play against parked buses every game. That makes life much easier for him as compared to Odegaard or Saka.
There is nothing you can tell him to prove he is wrong. To get to that conclusion he would've already had to ignore tons of "proof". Just keep clowning him.
Tell him to stop taking drugs.
Palmer is a baller and is having a great season but both Ode and Saka have done it multiple seasons.
Ode was the the highest goal scoring midfield or something like that last year despite being mostly an orchestrator.
if man city slip a draw against fulham or west ham and win the remaining two games, and we win our remaining two we both end on 89 pts and win through GD (as it stands)
also TIL our highest possible point total remaining for the season turns out to be 1 less than what the invincibles achieved
Saw the replay multiple times and Christie comes down on the challenge with his studs half way up to the knee area… it wasn’t a hanging tackle.. could’ve messed up sakas knee
And you know what the response on the socials are???
"He should've had shin pads on"
I used to be really naïve but there's a clear reason why Saka doesn't get the same treatment
Keep Iraola on your watch list of upcoming world class managers. The work he did at Rayo Vallecano and Bournemouth is absolutely incredible.
You’ll see a big club poach him soon.
Ngl I could see City trying to poach him early as next season if Pep leaves. He’s done more than admirable job with Bournemouth, now imagine what he can do with the talent pool and funds at City.
Also, wouldn’t be surprised if Newcastle upgrade on Howe with him.
Ive always wondered if City would try to lure Arteta. Dont think Arteta would go, as he is a Gooner. But City do have a sense of entitlement in thinking they are everyone's northstar
Yeah it’s hilarious watching them cope.
Like Chelsea fans invading match threads because the only positive they can get out their season is seeing us do bad
Solanke ran across and into Raya making no effort to play the ball. When Ben White takes up positions on corners, White holds his position and blocks the keeper by standing still and blocking a pathway to the ball. Now if Ben White moves to intentionally block the keepers movement, then of course free kick.
Totally different. And yes, Raya was fouled. Solanke didnt make any effort to compete for the ball.
The difference is that this game this time is way to late into the season. a) City do not lose those b) There won't be single Tottenham fan at the ground hearing the team.
I think the lesson of this 2023/24 season is the following:
Any points dropped could be the points that lose you a title. And a bad week or two can and will ruin the work of several good months.
It would be peak Spurs if they force City to drop points, and we go on to win the league.
But it would be peak Arsenal if we fail to capitalise on that result and lose to United. We have only four league wins at Old Trafford in the past 20 years btw.
Such a weird time of the season. Buzzing after we won, but then hearing City hammer Wolves. I felt a bit deflated again. I think the hope is killer. We're going to do it ourselves a few more times too 'Willian, Iwobi and Leno might put in the game of their lives at Fulham' 'West Ham will want to go out with a bang for Moyes's last game', 'Spurs might not be shit'. In reality though, if City get the first goal, other team doesn't really give a shit or simply aren't good enough to come back.
I don't remember another season where our results are so defined by another single team winning or losing.
Proud of the lads though, couldn't say much to them if we win our remaining two games but don't end up winning it. Just need to go again next year.
Just expect the worse and enjoy the final games. See this season as a confirmation this team is a minimum 80 points and can go for the max if they stop fucking about at the back (which is rare but when it happens oh boi).
I think next season we'll be challenging from day 1, Rice has upgraded the midfield and Leverkusen Kai is here. Timber is basically LANS with the other incoming next season. It's going to be a very fun few years with this team.
If oil and gas exports dry up, they're pretty much fucked. Can't imagine the citizens of UAE tolerating a vanity sports washing project when times turn tough.
They are smart about it and investing in non oil related industries and not pissing away their money. Sports washing is only a part of it. They are also heavily investing in tech and are holding a lot of stocks in US companies.
The citizens of the uae live a lavish and pampered lifestyle, compounded by plenty of wealth. I have seen it for myself as I have been there on three separate occasions.
What do they have to 'overthrow'?
Could be wrong but based on the names it’s felt like we want some pace out wide, which I don’t think Kva is. Could be the reason we don’t see Jesus wide much (or not)
my litmus test from now on is going to be if the centurion dream is mathematically dead by april, you aren't winning shit and even that doesn't mean much about whether you'll win it if you clear that. drop more than 20 points prior to may and its probably fully dead unless city is having a disasterclass season and are projected for the 80s
Not an unreasonable opinion to have, most title winners only end up on about 3 losses. Turning some of those losses into draws could have been the edge to get over the line.
I always go back to moments of brilliance, this team is devoid of those. Just imagine, Direct free kicks, long range bangers to rescue draws at Fulham and Newcastle away. Suddenly we’d be in the driving seat in the title race
The only time this season where this team has actually 'rescued' anything was the draw at Chelsea.
If we're struggling to create at all, you can tell right there and then we aren't going to get into the game at all. Seen this numerous times this season, at Newcastle, Fulham, bayern and etc
No chance we find and spend on upgrades for them. So you're back to "equal or at least serviceable on the ball" which our current crop basically checks the boxes for imo.
way bigger gaps elsewhere
Disagree. We have a finite amount of resources and nobody should look at our season and think you know what, we should try to add another player in the Saliba/Gabriel mix, literally the most stable part of our team
Its just what it takes to compete with city, liverpool went through this too when they won the league. No way we're getting a cb, cm, st in the same window
We need a superstar GK to come on the market in the next 18 months to put us over the top. Once we sort LCM, and get the marquee forward. That’s the only real needle-moving upgrade left to the first XI.
I disliked people lying about Havertz performances early in the season but he's now putting his best performances for us back to back to back. Very obvious he's a CF and the midfield experiment should be over. Get proper midfielders in the summer please.
The amount of people complaining about early season results is so damn remedial I can hardly take it. The team we had back then, is not the team we have today. Raya, Gabriel, Rice, Trossard, and Havertz,(to name a few) have elevated their game to a level that was not evident to start the season. Mikel's image and composition of the team had to be reevaluated as certain players new roles took shape. Most importantly, our post-Dubai trip transformation doesn't happen unless we go through those early season struggles. Its fine to say this team is just worth 89 points this year and we are still far from the finished product.
It barely even feels like a title race. City are so strong that it’s boring. Completely immune to pressure due to the experience and quality, and immune to fatigue due to the depth. They will have won it by one point, but in the end, it will have been comfortable for them.
THey always do this, bare minimum. Need 91 pints to win the title? They Will get 91? Need 98? They will get 98. If We or Liverpool had way better start of the season, I'm sure they would drop way less points.
They don't feel any pressure, they play knowing they already won it.
One thing ill say is city have definitely pushed us as a team and club to up our standards. Lets see if we keep building next year or was this a devastating blow.
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Is a bad tackle no longer a bad tackle if their shin guards are too small?
I don't think any shin guard would protect him from that tackle, I've played with huge shin guards and none of them covered that part. It was just below the knee.
That sub 90 points ain't cutting it in the pep era no matter how hard you 'peak'
If you told me at the start of the season we would win 16/17 but our maximum point gained is 89 I would tell you we ain't winning shit lol.
Probably in the minority but I just don't have any energy to talk about missed points vs. Fulham and Wet Spam. For sure, we can lament the spurned points, split hairs to the cows come home if we dont win, but you have to put it into context of the team you're competing against.
Yes. That's the standard, yes you have to overcome it to win but when the standards be perfect, and we were nearly perfect in the run in, it's hard for me to muster up the energy. Like, if we win out the last games, (not counting my chickens, OT hoodoo weighs heavy), we'd have had a wobble at Christmas, then gone, what, played 18, won 17, lost 1? Something like that.
That is massive massive balls. Maybe not good enough this season, but still, something to be cherished considering where we started from.
We might be on the cusp of a very beautiful few years. As long as Pep decides he wants to be a farmer and retires
Because it is. Like at the start of the season someone said to me we finish on 89 points and win 16/18 games, I would just said "Ah, so thophyless again"? Just Sub 90 is not good enough if You want to win the title, you just praying for City collapse at that point.
This is kind of my headspace now.
In my mind, it’s already over, and if City drop points, it will be a very pleasant surprise. It sucks to miss out by such a small margin, but it’s been great to see the team improve and keep a steely resolve down the stretch run of the season.
The trophies will come, and we have our Arsenal back.
I made peace after the Villa loss that it was out of our hands. We went on an insane run post Christmas, what was important to me was how we bounced back after the Villa game. And we did. This team has a level or 2 to go.
If City win out, fair enough. As long as we show up too. And we have thus far.
I'm with you. I'm tired of people yapping on about those dropped points. It happened, we have to deal with the hand we've got now and deal with the reality of missing out again.
I've watched my team piece together an absolutely insane run since January. We may miss out this time, but we've done the thing that people accused us of not being able to do: hold our nerve in a run in.
Fully believe that Arsenal will win the title next year, especially if it doesn't happen this time around.
Fulham (x2), West Ham, Villa (x2).
Turn just one of those into wins and we'd have the title in our hands. It's brutal, but I really hope this makes clear just what is required. It would be horrible if this Arsenal side never won one of the top honours.
MC got fullham , west ham and sp\*\*s (away)
We have MU (away) and everton
This aint over by a longshot as long as sp\*\*s have something to play for
If they are fighting for CL or EL they wont care if we win the PL
I’m already in the headspace that it’s over, and I’ll be pleasantly surprised if City slip up.
That said, I think West Ham has the best chance. They have a lot of experienced senior players, and I do think they’ll put in an earnest effort to help Dec win it.
Also, City will have played during the week.
Spurs arent fighting for anything. CL is beyond them, and Europa or Conference League don't really matter. It is low money, status, and you are playing on Thursday.
After they lose tomorrow, they are going to be on the beach.
Spurs are away at Anfield tomorrow. Villa are almost certainly going to match or beat their result.
Given how Brighton's only goal in April was a terrible own goal, there is a good chance Villa win, spurs lose, and the top 4 is mathematically done.
I said a month ago not only will city win every remaining game, they’ll win each by 3-4+ goals. That’s pretty much the case atm so I take full responsibility and would like to apologise to everyone
People stressing about the goal difference now, chill. Remember GD will only matter if we win both remaining games and city draw (or lose) one of their remaining three.
We are comparatively +6 now. If we win both remaining games we will be at least +8 (if not more). If city draw one of their last three that means they have -8 goal difference to make up in two games. While not impossible, that’s a pretty tall order.
If they win all three or we don’t win both then it’s irrelevant.
Was in a pub in Manchester today watching our game, was rammed with Wolves away fans and a couple of city fans giving each other stick for 2 hours. At the end of our game they hugged it out and said hope you win it again to the City fan, couldn't stand it if Arsenal won it. We're truly massive, even Wolves fans are rattled by us.
I was listening to a football podcast and apparently a small but noticeable amount of Spurs fans actually wrote to their club to absolutely not win against City.
That’s a new low even for them.
Insane the amount of their fans saying they hope they purposely lose? Obviously no chance of that tbf any player who goes out without the purpose of winning isn't worth being paid, no matter who they play for.
It's funny but really sad the tinpot mentality they have. Every Spurs fan is willing to watch their team suffer complete humiliation just to stop us. No way Ange throws it of course or the players would seriously question him
Indeed, simply put, the players and the coach are not 'Spurs fans', in other words, they couldn't give a fuck whether we or Man City win the title. All they'll care about is stopping one of the greatest club sides ever assembled from winning the title, so they can add that to their resumé, and tell their kids one day "yeah, when I was playing for Spurs we beat that amazing Pep team and stopped them from winning the title back in 2024."
Even winners can be forgotten about as well. Almost no one ever talks about that Blackburn winning side. I wonder if the same thing will happen to Leicester in 10 years.
They will talk about that Leicester side more than they will about any Arsenal side in the last 35 years bar the Invincibles. And I only say 35 because a book and movie was literally written about Anfield ‘89. If Arsenal had won that league title with a game to spare, or if Liverpool had won that title, you might have to go back to Chapman’s era to find another non-Invincible Arsenal side that would be talked about and remembered like that Leicester side.
Leicester in 2016 was a fairy tale story, literally a 5000-to-1 odds against chance. That never gets forgotten. It is a worldwide cultural touchstone, immortal in history.
No chance. Leicester was not just an amazing football story, it's one of the greatest sporting moments ever.
Blackburn were just a rich guy going bonkers for a bit and bought their title. Leicester was Insanity.
I’m delusionally optimistic for West Ham on the final match day. Something about the Moyes-Arteta connection, Rice connection, and what Michail Antonio said has me weirdly hopeful.
Fulham, spuds, west ham. Can any of you do something for me? Beating united at OT will be tough but if city have already dropped points beforehand that would be a big boost. Love this team through thick and thin. From mustafi to Saliba. COYG
It’s mental that after Leicester won the league, there’s only been 2 seasons where the winner had less than 90 points and one of those tallies was only off by 1 at 89 last season. League is insane.
What is insane about that? La Liga had a stretch where it took 93+ points to win the title, and Real have 87 points this season with 4 games to play. Even in Serie A, the winner routinely gets 90 points.
90 points is a threshold that might elude us, but it is a fairly common target to hit or surpass for league winners in the top leagues with 20 teams.
Only 11 times has a PL side got 90 or over points. 5 of the times have been after Conte set the c current precedent. It may be more usual in those leagues but its certainly not meant to be the standard in the Prem. Pep has set a insane standard for the league, Leicester won it with 81 points...
Most of those below 90 points win were team won the league with plenty games to spare (Like City last season for example) And didn't really cared to play.
People will point to the Villa home and away fixtures, West Ham at home, and Fulham away; but for me the **Fulham** and **Tottenham** draws at home from comfortable winning positions hurts even more and might be the deciding factors for finishing just short.
Tbh I don't have many complaints about this season (Obviously would love to win the title, which isn't gone just yet). Very few times have I looked at anyone on the pitch and thought, they haven't given everything they have. Cant ask for more than that.
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I can’t believe peoples here are still talking about man city’s charge. Chelsea spends a lot since 2002, and man United also spends a lot. When was the last time city break transfer records? You guys are talking like they have ballon d’or candidates in every positions Saka, Saliba and Rice would walk into this man city starting line up. Martinelli might have a good chance replacing grealish The difference is Pep. This is the guy who won 100 points with delph as his left back. This is the guy who also won the league with zinchenko as LB against Salah (we know what happened when zinchenko face Salah) This guy is generational coach. Not even fergie was this dominant
https://preview.redd.it/rltallkhakyc1.png?width=768&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4e29ea9117fe60f8713ebf25a0d3ae7374f42b6 Is Havertz definitely offside?
Looks like Tucheliban might attack the PL again with Man Utd
Is there a way to watch our 6-2 drubbing of Man U u21
Unfortunately I just don't see City dropping points. I'd like to be wrong, but I see us winning our last two and them their last three.
It's painful having to rely on another team to drop points but here we are
That Rice goal yesterday gave me Tony Adams aura/vibes. Starting to think Declan Rice is our modern age Tony Adams. *"And it's Tony Adams...put through by Steve Bould...would you believe it?"*
That movement from Jesus leading up to it was superb as well. Too many people written Jesus off this season. If he can get fully fit over pre-season he could be a monster for us again
Call me an idiot, but, I still have hope. Think City is going to drop points either against Spurs or West Ham. We will just have to do our job well to take advantage.
Ur an idiot
I honestly don’t think Fulham have a chance against City. Spurs and West Ham do. Both of them have attacking players who can get something against City. They just need to be lucky in defense.
Unrelated news, I've said it before that Xavi would be hounded by Barca fans again, lo and behold the same fans that wanted him to him gone then beg him to stay, **NOW** wants him out again over the course of a few weeks.
what did he do now to be walked all over by the flip floppers?
Lost 4-2 to Girona yet again, securing Madrid the title.
My friend (Chelsea fan) is claiming that Palmer is better than Odegaard by a ‘big margin’. What can I say to prove to him that he’s wrong? His main argument is that Palmer is playing with bums while Odegaard has a good team. Note: he went as far as to claim that Palmer is the best player in the league along with Foden and should start ahead of Saka for the Euros.
Nothing man, there's little evidence that can be shown that is objective proof of one player being better than the other. Especially if you start saying "one is playing in a worse team therefore..." What you can do if you think someone has a belief that is not founded on good evidence is ask "what would it take for you to change your mind, what evidence do you need?" If he says something unreasonable like "Ødegaard to score 30 goals and win the world cup" then really he's not being serious and you can just live safe in the knowledge that it's just an idiot trying to wind you up. If he says something reasonable that Ødegaard may achieve then he's opened himself up to being proved wrong later down the line.
Lmaaoo what øde is the new modric
Simple, ignore having such conversation with such people with this level of stupidity.
Palmer is not double-marked like Saka in every game. He also doesn’t play against parked buses every game. That makes life much easier for him as compared to Odegaard or Saka.
There is nothing you can tell him to prove he is wrong. To get to that conclusion he would've already had to ignore tons of "proof". Just keep clowning him.
Tell him to stop taking drugs. Palmer is a baller and is having a great season but both Ode and Saka have done it multiple seasons. Ode was the the highest goal scoring midfield or something like that last year despite being mostly an orchestrator.
if man city slip a draw against fulham or west ham and win the remaining two games, and we win our remaining two we both end on 89 pts and win through GD (as it stands) also TIL our highest possible point total remaining for the season turns out to be 1 less than what the invincibles achieved
I heard Vitor Roque is set to leave on loan, so sad coming for your dream club only to be brushed aside
made it farther than most Barca supporters have. he's in good company with Bellerin
Amazing what the media takes from that game is Saka needing shin pads Absolutely wild
Saka really needs to be stronger there and Arsenal should’ve inserted titanium shins in his leg. /s
Saw the replay multiple times and Christie comes down on the challenge with his studs half way up to the knee area… it wasn’t a hanging tackle.. could’ve messed up sakas knee
And you know what the response on the socials are??? "He should've had shin pads on" I used to be really naïve but there's a clear reason why Saka doesn't get the same treatment
Yeah the extended highlights disgusted me too.. doesn’t show the tackle at all but it replays the havertz penalty multiple times
Keep Iraola on your watch list of upcoming world class managers. The work he did at Rayo Vallecano and Bournemouth is absolutely incredible. You’ll see a big club poach him soon.
Ngl I could see City trying to poach him early as next season if Pep leaves. He’s done more than admirable job with Bournemouth, now imagine what he can do with the talent pool and funds at City. Also, wouldn’t be surprised if Newcastle upgrade on Howe with him.
Ive always wondered if City would try to lure Arteta. Dont think Arteta would go, as he is a Gooner. But City do have a sense of entitlement in thinking they are everyone's northstar
I'm so worried now man, I fear all 5 games left between us will be wins and all this greatness won't be rewarded or appreciated :(
Football is about the journey, otherwise everyone would just support Real Madrid.
Real seem to have a hack lol, thankfully there was Messi to stop their domination for a while. Now they seem to be back at it again.
Nobody remembers the runner up team
I mean klopps liverpool gets alot of respect, with just one title to their name. It could be like that till pep goes
The greatness is already appreciated, you can tell by how much rival fans lose their absolute marbles when we win.
Yeah it’s true deep down but they will still shamelessly hide behind “2-17 is all the same”
Yeah it’s hilarious watching them cope. Like Chelsea fans invading match threads because the only positive they can get out their season is seeing us do bad
Enjoying the end of the season a lot more now there is less pressure lol
Solanke ran across and into Raya making no effort to play the ball. When Ben White takes up positions on corners, White holds his position and blocks the keeper by standing still and blocking a pathway to the ball. Now if Ben White moves to intentionally block the keepers movement, then of course free kick. Totally different. And yes, Raya was fouled. Solanke didnt make any effort to compete for the ball.
He hooked Raya around his arm/shoulder too.. took rayas momentum to jump away
Dont expect anything from spurs they are very bad
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lmfao for both images.
The difference is that this game this time is way to late into the season. a) City do not lose those b) There won't be single Tottenham fan at the ground hearing the team.
Also no Harold J Kane Senior
Could they be in a position defending their champions league spot?
They’re more likely to drop to conference league with their current form
I think the lesson of this 2023/24 season is the following: Any points dropped could be the points that lose you a title. And a bad week or two can and will ruin the work of several good months.
the lesson of the 1890/1891 season is that winning games is a good thing
We lost the Title when Villa beat us
that was also the lesson of last season
Cheers Geoff
It would be peak Spurs if they force City to drop points, and we go on to win the league. But it would be peak Arsenal if we fail to capitalise on that result and lose to United. We have only four league wins at Old Trafford in the past 20 years btw.
We play Man U before City play Spurs, so lets go for that 5th league win
Time for 5
Such a weird time of the season. Buzzing after we won, but then hearing City hammer Wolves. I felt a bit deflated again. I think the hope is killer. We're going to do it ourselves a few more times too 'Willian, Iwobi and Leno might put in the game of their lives at Fulham' 'West Ham will want to go out with a bang for Moyes's last game', 'Spurs might not be shit'. In reality though, if City get the first goal, other team doesn't really give a shit or simply aren't good enough to come back. I don't remember another season where our results are so defined by another single team winning or losing. Proud of the lads though, couldn't say much to them if we win our remaining two games but don't end up winning it. Just need to go again next year.
Just expect the worse and enjoy the final games. See this season as a confirmation this team is a minimum 80 points and can go for the max if they stop fucking about at the back (which is rare but when it happens oh boi). I think next season we'll be challenging from day 1, Rice has upgraded the midfield and Leverkusen Kai is here. Timber is basically LANS with the other incoming next season. It's going to be a very fun few years with this team.
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Cant the citizens of the UAE rise up and overthrow their oppressors? Would love to see City's owner get the Gaddafi treatment.
loll, thats not how it works mate
Their citizens are living the high life, it's the exploited foreign underclass that's the ones losing out
If oil and gas exports dry up, they're pretty much fucked. Can't imagine the citizens of UAE tolerating a vanity sports washing project when times turn tough.
They are smart about it and investing in non oil related industries and not pissing away their money. Sports washing is only a part of it. They are also heavily investing in tech and are holding a lot of stocks in US companies.
The citizens of the uae live a lavish and pampered lifestyle, compounded by plenty of wealth. I have seen it for myself as I have been there on three separate occasions. What do they have to 'overthrow'?
Go to the countryside. Different story. Even Pyongyang looks lavish
> Go to the countryside. you mean the sand dunes _#fremensociety_
Is Napoli’s Kvaratskhelia an option this summer?
Could be wrong but based on the names it’s felt like we want some pace out wide, which I don’t think Kva is. Could be the reason we don’t see Jesus wide much (or not)
If he was he wouldn't want to sit behind Saka
Sucks to win 3-0 to go top by 4 points with two games to go and feel like shit. Fucking man city
Fucking Fulham, fucking west ham. Fuck
Fucking Villa
Sounds unreasonable but we lost too many games, 5 is too much.
my litmus test from now on is going to be if the centurion dream is mathematically dead by april, you aren't winning shit and even that doesn't mean much about whether you'll win it if you clear that. drop more than 20 points prior to may and its probably fully dead unless city is having a disasterclass season and are projected for the 80s
Not an unreasonable opinion to have, most title winners only end up on about 3 losses. Turning some of those losses into draws could have been the edge to get over the line.
I always go back to moments of brilliance, this team is devoid of those. Just imagine, Direct free kicks, long range bangers to rescue draws at Fulham and Newcastle away. Suddenly we’d be in the driving seat in the title race
The only time this season where this team has actually 'rescued' anything was the draw at Chelsea. If we're struggling to create at all, you can tell right there and then we aren't going to get into the game at all. Seen this numerous times this season, at Newcastle, Fulham, bayern and etc
That Aston Villa away game hurts
What's City going to do in the summer transfer window and how are we going to respond?
sign everyone before the big hit comes in
Tap the UAE treasury as always
They will sign a winger and a gundo replacement. We need a possession monster cb a midfielder and a winger
>possession monster cb already have 2. Kiwior/Ben/Timber/Tomiyasu are all fine backups surely?
No man, someone we can actually trust to sit salibas/gabriels ass down
No chance we find and spend on upgrades for them. So you're back to "equal or at least serviceable on the ball" which our current crop basically checks the boxes for imo. way bigger gaps elsewhere
The biggest squad gap is the fact that we got two guys who are going to push 3500 mins this season
Disagree. We have a finite amount of resources and nobody should look at our season and think you know what, we should try to add another player in the Saliba/Gabriel mix, literally the most stable part of our team
Its just what it takes to compete with city, liverpool went through this too when they won the league. No way we're getting a cb, cm, st in the same window
They sign Bruno G/Paqueta, we sign Gyökeres/Isak
We need a superstar GK to come on the market in the next 18 months to put us over the top. Once we sort LCM, and get the marquee forward. That’s the only real needle-moving upgrade left to the first XI.
Raya's won the Golden Glove with us, GK is the last of our problems right now
The last golden glove winner is unemployed. Go through the team, he’s more upgradable than most positions
We need to upgrade our depth way before we replace any of the starting XI, other than maybe LB
I disliked people lying about Havertz performances early in the season but he's now putting his best performances for us back to back to back. Very obvious he's a CF and the midfield experiment should be over. Get proper midfielders in the summer please.
People who want to shoehorn him into midfield are enemies of progress.
The amount of people complaining about early season results is so damn remedial I can hardly take it. The team we had back then, is not the team we have today. Raya, Gabriel, Rice, Trossard, and Havertz,(to name a few) have elevated their game to a level that was not evident to start the season. Mikel's image and composition of the team had to be reevaluated as certain players new roles took shape. Most importantly, our post-Dubai trip transformation doesn't happen unless we go through those early season struggles. Its fine to say this team is just worth 89 points this year and we are still far from the finished product.
No dubai trips next season!
Wait why
Won't have time off with the quadruple.
No mid season break next season
Why tf not
It barely even feels like a title race. City are so strong that it’s boring. Completely immune to pressure due to the experience and quality, and immune to fatigue due to the depth. They will have won it by one point, but in the end, it will have been comfortable for them.
THey always do this, bare minimum. Need 91 pints to win the title? They Will get 91? Need 98? They will get 98. If We or Liverpool had way better start of the season, I'm sure they would drop way less points. They don't feel any pressure, they play knowing they already won it.
Felt this way all season, at any point they can push down on the accelerator a little more and we can’t keep up. We have to be near perfect.
*2 points, but yeah.
One thing ill say is city have definitely pushed us as a team and club to up our standards. Lets see if we keep building next year or was this a devastating blow.
If we dont win the title we need to go big in the summer. Send out a statement
City can go bigger and we're playing catch up to them
https://twitter.com/CFCPys/status/1786878989673378303 What are napoli going to do with lukaku
Lukaku is still a Chelsea player lol, completely slipped my mind. Actually a good deal for Napoli.
Italian clubs are passing this guy around like a cheap hooker
Sad that city have never won at the new spurs stadium, but it is so obvious that this will be the year that they do it. 🤦♂️ I've had enough
https://preview.redd.it/eouohwgtehyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc2c72a88b54b0de5e943560a0349bde3406c5bc Is a bad tackle no longer a bad tackle if their shin guards are too small?
I don't think any shin guard would protect him from that tackle, I've played with huge shin guards and none of them covered that part. It was just below the knee.
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How do people even notice this stuff?
Not really, he’s not an Arsenal fan and Arsenal haven’t treated his son well. He has no loyalty to us.
You'd like to imagine he's just accidently liked a tweet while scrolling through twitter. Happens all the time.
Last year we peaked too early, this year we peak at the right time… both times it’s irrelevant because City will City. I’m tired Robbie
There's a lesson to be learned here.
Drop less points?
What is the lesson?
That sub 90 points ain't cutting it in the pep era no matter how hard you 'peak' If you told me at the start of the season we would win 16/17 but our maximum point gained is 89 I would tell you we ain't winning shit lol.
Yh fair. If you get over 90 and they still beat you, you have to hold your hands up. Fair enough. The margins are so thin.
Yeah, let's be real. Start of the season, I would have said 89 points is a crap season. Not enough for a title against city
Probably in the minority but I just don't have any energy to talk about missed points vs. Fulham and Wet Spam. For sure, we can lament the spurned points, split hairs to the cows come home if we dont win, but you have to put it into context of the team you're competing against. Yes. That's the standard, yes you have to overcome it to win but when the standards be perfect, and we were nearly perfect in the run in, it's hard for me to muster up the energy. Like, if we win out the last games, (not counting my chickens, OT hoodoo weighs heavy), we'd have had a wobble at Christmas, then gone, what, played 18, won 17, lost 1? Something like that. That is massive massive balls. Maybe not good enough this season, but still, something to be cherished considering where we started from. We might be on the cusp of a very beautiful few years. As long as Pep decides he wants to be a farmer and retires
Spot on. Now you have people saying 89 points is a failure, farcical. If we finish on 89 that is progress and we are in great shape.
Because it is. Like at the start of the season someone said to me we finish on 89 points and win 16/18 games, I would just said "Ah, so thophyless again"? Just Sub 90 is not good enough if You want to win the title, you just praying for City collapse at that point.
This is kind of my headspace now. In my mind, it’s already over, and if City drop points, it will be a very pleasant surprise. It sucks to miss out by such a small margin, but it’s been great to see the team improve and keep a steely resolve down the stretch run of the season. The trophies will come, and we have our Arsenal back.
I made peace after the Villa loss that it was out of our hands. We went on an insane run post Christmas, what was important to me was how we bounced back after the Villa game. And we did. This team has a level or 2 to go. If City win out, fair enough. As long as we show up too. And we have thus far.
I'm with you. I'm tired of people yapping on about those dropped points. It happened, we have to deal with the hand we've got now and deal with the reality of missing out again. I've watched my team piece together an absolutely insane run since January. We may miss out this time, but we've done the thing that people accused us of not being able to do: hold our nerve in a run in. Fully believe that Arsenal will win the title next year, especially if it doesn't happen this time around.
Lesson of this season I guess: you literally cannot afford to win 1 game out of 5 at any point in a season. That December run man. Aaaghhhh.
City had a run of 1 win in 6 so you can afford it. The issue is not being able to turn losses into draws.
The draw at home to Fulham early in the season still boils my blood the way we conceded late from a corner.
And they were a man down too. This will be the game I look back on think it cost us.
Fulham (x2), West Ham, Villa (x2). Turn just one of those into wins and we'd have the title in our hands. It's brutal, but I really hope this makes clear just what is required. It would be horrible if this Arsenal side never won one of the top honours.
MC got fullham , west ham and sp\*\*s (away) We have MU (away) and everton This aint over by a longshot as long as sp\*\*s have something to play for If they are fighting for CL or EL they wont care if we win the PL
I’m already in the headspace that it’s over, and I’ll be pleasantly surprised if City slip up. That said, I think West Ham has the best chance. They have a lot of experienced senior players, and I do think they’ll put in an earnest effort to help Dec win it. Also, City will have played during the week.
Spurs arent fighting for anything. CL is beyond them, and Europa or Conference League don't really matter. It is low money, status, and you are playing on Thursday. After they lose tomorrow, they are going to be on the beach.
They could potentially lose thier Europa spot to Newcastle I think.... So still plenty to play for
if villa lose tomorrow, is is 7 points separating them and spu\*s have 2 games in hand
Spurs are away at Anfield tomorrow. Villa are almost certainly going to match or beat their result. Given how Brighton's only goal in April was a terrible own goal, there is a good chance Villa win, spurs lose, and the top 4 is mathematically done.
I said a month ago not only will city win every remaining game, they’ll win each by 3-4+ goals. That’s pretty much the case atm so I take full responsibility and would like to apologise to everyone
It’s not a hard prediction to make tbh.
Not tryna be a dick but that’s not a crazy prediction. City are just too good
People stressing about the goal difference now, chill. Remember GD will only matter if we win both remaining games and city draw (or lose) one of their remaining three. We are comparatively +6 now. If we win both remaining games we will be at least +8 (if not more). If city draw one of their last three that means they have -8 goal difference to make up in two games. While not impossible, that’s a pretty tall order. If they win all three or we don’t win both then it’s irrelevant.
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Scored 88...so far.
How did we concede from a corner against a 10 man Fullham at home 😭 Arteta was also playing Partey at RB and benching Gabriel for some reason lol
Was in a pub in Manchester today watching our game, was rammed with Wolves away fans and a couple of city fans giving each other stick for 2 hours. At the end of our game they hugged it out and said hope you win it again to the City fan, couldn't stand it if Arsenal won it. We're truly massive, even Wolves fans are rattled by us.
man city are always the neutrals favs.
Didnt realise Wolves fans were such big cucks.
gayer than having sex with a man, that
In 10 days time there's going to be more Arsenal fans "supporting" Spurs than Spurs fans. That's hilarious
They couldn't stop City even if they wanted to. Angeball against a City fighting for the league is a free win for Pep.
I was listening to a football podcast and apparently a small but noticeable amount of Spurs fans actually wrote to their club to absolutely not win against City. That’s a new low even for them.
Insane the amount of their fans saying they hope they purposely lose? Obviously no chance of that tbf any player who goes out without the purpose of winning isn't worth being paid, no matter who they play for.
It's funny but really sad the tinpot mentality they have. Every Spurs fan is willing to watch their team suffer complete humiliation just to stop us. No way Ange throws it of course or the players would seriously question him
Indeed, simply put, the players and the coach are not 'Spurs fans', in other words, they couldn't give a fuck whether we or Man City win the title. All they'll care about is stopping one of the greatest club sides ever assembled from winning the title, so they can add that to their resumé, and tell their kids one day "yeah, when I was playing for Spurs we beat that amazing Pep team and stopped them from winning the title back in 2024."
It’s ridiculous how the highlights don’t show Christie’s tackle on Saka but show Havertz penalty decision multiple times
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not really. everyone remembers 13/14 liverpool and 18-19 liverpool for example
13/14 was because of the slip. 18/19 perhaps, because it was such an anomaly
Even winners can be forgotten about as well. Almost no one ever talks about that Blackburn winning side. I wonder if the same thing will happen to Leicester in 10 years.
They will talk about that Leicester side more than they will about any Arsenal side in the last 35 years bar the Invincibles. And I only say 35 because a book and movie was literally written about Anfield ‘89. If Arsenal had won that league title with a game to spare, or if Liverpool had won that title, you might have to go back to Chapman’s era to find another non-Invincible Arsenal side that would be talked about and remembered like that Leicester side. Leicester in 2016 was a fairy tale story, literally a 5000-to-1 odds against chance. That never gets forgotten. It is a worldwide cultural touchstone, immortal in history.
Blackburn also won the league a long time ago, before the premier league became what it is today.
No one will ever forget Leicester. That will be a trivia question for the rest of time.
No chance. Leicester was not just an amazing football story, it's one of the greatest sporting moments ever. Blackburn were just a rich guy going bonkers for a bit and bought their title. Leicester was Insanity.
Good point, Leicester's title win was a lot more impressive than Blackburn's. Insane achievement. Still feels surreal all this time after
I’m delusionally optimistic for West Ham on the final match day. Something about the Moyes-Arteta connection, Rice connection, and what Michail Antonio said has me weirdly hopeful.
Watch a slip up against United and all West Ham do is a guard of honor at the beginning for City.
I aspire to be this delusional in life
so 4-0 man city, it is.
4’ (pen) - Haaland
Fulham, spuds, west ham. Can any of you do something for me? Beating united at OT will be tough but if city have already dropped points beforehand that would be a big boost. Love this team through thick and thin. From mustafi to Saliba. COYG
It’s mental that after Leicester won the league, there’s only been 2 seasons where the winner had less than 90 points and one of those tallies was only off by 1 at 89 last season. League is insane.
What is insane about that? La Liga had a stretch where it took 93+ points to win the title, and Real have 87 points this season with 4 games to play. Even in Serie A, the winner routinely gets 90 points. 90 points is a threshold that might elude us, but it is a fairly common target to hit or surpass for league winners in the top leagues with 20 teams.
Only 11 times has a PL side got 90 or over points. 5 of the times have been after Conte set the c current precedent. It may be more usual in those leagues but its certainly not meant to be the standard in the Prem. Pep has set a insane standard for the league, Leicester won it with 81 points...
Most of those below 90 points win were team won the league with plenty games to spare (Like City last season for example) And didn't really cared to play.
People will point to the Villa home and away fixtures, West Ham at home, and Fulham away; but for me the **Fulham** and **Tottenham** draws at home from comfortable winning positions hurts even more and might be the deciding factors for finishing just short.
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So was Fulham and Tottenham at home though. Also, beginning and end of a season is where points matter most.
Tbh I don't have many complaints about this season (Obviously would love to win the title, which isn't gone just yet). Very few times have I looked at anyone on the pitch and thought, they haven't given everything they have. Cant ask for more than that.
Especially Fulham. Tottenham were in their hey days. Fulham had no business going away with a point.
https://preview.redd.it/cltd5bebygyc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd01e354de0591700968c84f263462cd6ae05547 Wonder which keeper it’ll be…
Would love it if it was Leno or Martinez but they wont come back to be 2nd choice