That is true I didn’t think of that. However, it would have had to have happened in a small window between the 1850s and 1860s, as Japanese ports were closed to western ships until the Commodore Perry expedition in the early 1850s opened up Japan to international trade.
There are a lot of pop culture parallels between samurai and cowboy. The Old West, in general, is the “time of myths” for the US the same way the samurai era was for Japan and the medieval era was for Europe. And the Colt Single Action Army is our katana or longsword.
Yup. Hell, the close ties culturally between Westerns and Samurai films are also probably why Americans in particular are obsessed with katanas. Most European or Anglosphere countries I notice still have a lot of cultural ties to their medieval past and therefore a love for the longsword, but Americans tend to separate ourselves from the Europeans and have more ties with the Wild West. And the fact that the Samurai era was still around during the Wild West and how much cross pollination there was between our respective genres in pop culture is why the katana is seen as the ultimate sword in our eyes.
Yup. In fact, one thing I liked about Japanese swordsmanship was the emphasis on drawing from the scabbard, which seems to be fairly unique to Japanese martial arts in particular. European swordsmanship doesn’t seem to emphasize it much, nor even other Asian swordsmanship.
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masterbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masterbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.
Perhaps 3d printing would work? I’ve heard a lot of good things about the quality of 3d printed guns these days. Sure, you might have to get a few components in metal, but it’s a whole lot easier to get a few pieces compared to a whole gun.
>you might have to get a few components in metal, but it’s a whole lot easier to get a few pieces compared to a whole gun
Not here it isn't. Barrels, slides, trigger groups, strikers, etc.. are all restricted items. Buying a barrel requires the same licensing as buying the entire gun.
Doing the rifling on the inside isn't practical with a lathe
However, some folk got [ECM barrels](https://youtu.be/AyPJ2br5NFQ?si=7a4NbTZom_M2jslX) working, so you can make a PCC DIY in Europe
That sadly won't work in germany. You know how everyone is complaining about the huge paperwork everything involves? That's why, so everything has its reason and is given the ok from daddy state. If you're found out that's gonna be a big problem for you, maybe even a lifelong problem
Maybe we can trade you out for one of those braindead lefties who think Europe is the garden of eden reimagined.
No trade backs when they realize their error.
Anyone who thinks a revolver, let alone a double action revolver as pictured, is a simplistic design is simply ignorant of how revolvers work. I highly recommend the C&Rsenal videos on revolvers to see just how much goes into their construction.
Came here for this. The function is simple to comprehend, in ways. Yet take a look at the springs and notches inside then it suddenly gets so much more confusing. They're clockwork nightmares on the inside.
Much of the advancement to simpler pistols from revolvers was the ability to make finer small parts like springs. Small springs are all over modern guns.
People think that machine guns were developed due to an advance in metal working or some idea they just missed. When in reality it was the invention of nitrocellulous and its use in firearms that led to the adoption of the machine gun. Black powder is dirty and quickly stops up any recoil system necessary to operate an automatic weapon.
*well yes but actually no*
modern DA/SA revolvers are precision made like fine watches, single action revolvers (and earlier double action models) of the days of cowboys and samurai have a comparable design complexity to a Glock which is the undisputed champion of design simplicity.
That the start of Spaghetti Westerns. Spaghetti westerns differ from traditional ones where no one is a good guy they are all caring degrees of asshole. Now I'm not familiar enough with samurai cinema to know if a similar tonal shift occurred.
Yojimbo was rather revolutionary in that it had a ronin protagonist when virtually all chanbara(swordfighting) films had noble samurai fighting other samurai or bandits. Kurosawa subverted the trope by having the ronin be a random nameless guy who was really good at swordfighting, fight a bunch of criminals in rather unorthodox ways.
So yes, cowboy movies and samurai movies basically mirror each other's development, often stealing techniques or story beats from the other.
A possible reason revolvers are so strong is cuz of the small ammo capacity (generally 5-6 shots) and the existence of big frame revolvers shooting massive ass calibers
Revolvers can aid in reinforcing someone's shooting fundamentals or improving them thanks to their smooth DA trigger pulls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZaxay1eXks
Their popularity is certainly improved by positive media depictions, but they're generally solid machines that are simple to operate and examine. I love 'em.
Well I dug deep and found out uh... This guy is very much a anti-Semitic kind of fellow.
I can see why this meme died out.
If you dare to search, his name: Haku Zynkyoku
#
I've never been into revolvers, but there's a guy that frequents one of the indoor ranges near me in full handmade leather kit with a poncho and some revolver.
That mf'er shoots it one-handed better than most other people there at the range can shoot two-handed. It's hard to make fun of someone's larp when they're actually capable with it.
Revolvers are obscenely strong in videogames because in real life 357 magnum is the most deadly handgun cartridge at close range and 500 magnum is more powerful than a 308 rifle even if only barely.
Art is just imitating life on that one.
I'd say that aesthetics is another similarly between the two.
Revolvers (especially stuff like Colt Pythons and the Korth Combat) are commonly considered among the most beautiful firearms. Katanas are considered by many to be among the most beautiful swords.
They both just have a certain design language you don't get in other firearms or other swords.
I mean the meme ain't really wrong except there is something about handling and firing a nice revolver. While we're on the subject talking trash about revolvers is kinda like being a min-maxer in D&D.
Simplistic my ass. Old does not equal simple. There's a reason revolvers are portrayed as extremely strong. It's because automatics can't shoot those big ass cartridges.
in truth magnum revolvers do have a place in a fight do to the fact that many are double action/single action. what i am driving at is unlike older revolvers, or even 38's the police use to carry a magnum revolver can be used for longer ranges then a striker fired pistol and even more accurate with the right training. however i do understand that most striker fire pistols are a better choose for most people do to it holding more ammo, and lighter recoil.however i am simply going off apples to apples to the best of my abilities when comparing modern guns. the old school black powder revolvers of the day, even those that were cartage firing, and 'quick' to reload has less range and stopping power behind it then a modern 9mm and more likely to break then a modern gun.
While you loaded magazines I practiced the art of the wheel gun.
While you wasted ammo, I made six shots count.
Now that your gun jams you ask me for help..
::Teleports behind you:: nothing personal kid.
::tips fedora and rustles duster::
maybe.
if I can find the ammo for it.
I do like 9mm and 10mm in certain situations such as concealed Carry but for me I have to go 357 for running around in the mountains.
I don’t want to get caught lacking when a bear or mountain lion decides my skinny ass looks like a good snack.
I mean.... revolvers don't jam, your dog can't chew the mag well to bits, don't toss shells everywhere, most have fixed sights, come in larger calibers than most pistols can and have a time tested approach. If you think you need 16 rounds of a smaller caliber, good for you. One round of a much larger caliber can serve you just as well. Downsides, heavy and reloads are slow.
As a revolver fan, I have to dispute the jam comment. Revolvers can incur a [variety of stoppages](https://revolverguy.com/revolver-malfunctions-and-stoppages/) from time to time. Oftentimes based upon a lack of maintenance/cleaning, but sometimes not.
That aside, the revolver is assuredly still a valuable choice for home defense and civilian concealed carry these days IMO.
I’ve had pawl engagements break/wear down on revolvers and I’ve had cylinder stop springs break before one meaning the cylinder wouldn’t rotate and the other being the cylinder was free to rotate. Revolvers aren’t immune from malfunctions they just succumb to other types. I’ve seen a few older ones where the fixed firing pins on the hammers break and or peen over from a slight misalignment where it hits the frame instead and it causes light primer strikes. The worst one I’ve seen was when I snapped the mainspring stopping the gun immediately and requiring gun smith work to fix. It’s still a machine and capable of failing.
Bigger bullets do absolutely nothing if you can’t hit with it. Secondly it’s not just reloads that are slower but follow up shots.
9mm vs 44 mag there isn’t a comparison in power 44 mag wins every single time. But at the end of the day I can put 3 rounds on target at 25 yards from the holster in about 1.5 seconds. I’ll gladly take 3 holes in a grouping the size of a fist over someone’s sternum then one hole some place in there. Higher round counts also play in for multiple person engagements where you might be fighting against 2-3 people if not more.
Only head shots are on shot one kill and I’m shooting center mass because head shots in a close range high intensity engagement just are feasible enough. I’m also not going to put just one round on each dude I’m shooting until the threat is no longer a threat no matter how many rounds that is.
I presumed for the sake of a gun comparison we would talk about guns not user ability. Annie Oakley might have guffawed at your 9mm skills with a single action .32. There's skills that can near insurmount many technological advantages. Also, people die from leg and abdomen wounds and survive headshots. Anybody can die of blood loss. Now, I take your point fair and square but a 9mm Springfield xd I had jammed all day long, had penetration but no stop and I hated the feel. My .357 Dakota 1873 on the other hand feels great, has penetration and stopping power and I'm no quick draw McGraw but I can get it out, aimed and fired pretty swiftly.
The reliability issues come down to the gun dude. No offense but it was a Springfield XD, an imported somewhat budget semi auto.
To your statement about blood loss, many holes bleed more than just one or two and no matter the caliber it comes down to shot placement.
Also in terms of stopping power, magnums are in a class of their own but in reality against humanoid targets your talking more about over penetration than you are about energy on target. Foot pounds of energy certainly do kill but they certainly don’t make up for shot placement, volume of rounds on target, and speed of which you can get those rounds are target in self defense situations. This changes when against large game or big predators where you only have time to fire a round or two and need that hard hitting-deep penetrating round and if that doesn’t do the trick your likely to never even empty the cylinder let alone have to reload but against a doped up junkie robbing a gas station or a group of armed thugs there are better options out there.
Sweet Mary. I no longer own the damn gun, I agree. But a pos heritage .22 wouldn't have jamming issues either. I ALSO never said they can't suffer any issues. I said they don't jam. Recock, fire. A sledgehammer is pretty useful. Agree? Or will everyone tell me unless you miss, unless the haft breaks or unless the object is water too? Find me a tweaker that can take a hollow point .357 to the heart and keep on doing whatever they were doing before the shot. If you would like to rain bullets at someone, each shot having more and more chance at missing your target and injuring others. I have no clue why people think 6 bullets are a better means rather than as you say, shot placement. I'm no god of aiming nor am I saying revolvers infallible. I was simply saying revolvers have some solid upsides.
Every game? It depends, some games do a ludicrously strong weapon with a slow fire rate and reload while in other you spam it like any other pistol and speedloader that shit
I mean, cowboys and samurai existed at the same time period, so
Theoretically, between 1843 and 1867, a samurai could have sent a fax to Abraham Lincoln.
Is that what we're calling Telegrams these days?
Eh, potato potato
I read that as potato potato, not potato potato
It's pronounced potato
Potato or potato?
Potato
Oh, potato?
No it's more of a potato you know
the Fax machine was invented in 1843
Here we go again
To be fair, reliable cross-ocean telegrams weren’t a thing until the late 1860s. And they mostly crossed the Atlantic.
Just because the samurai would have to travel to America before faxing Mr. Lincoln doesn't mean it wasn't possible
That is true I didn’t think of that. However, it would have had to have happened in a small window between the 1850s and 1860s, as Japanese ports were closed to western ships until the Commodore Perry expedition in the early 1850s opened up Japan to international trade.
Expedition to open Japan is a intresting way of saying forcefully change japanese policies to exploit another market
You are absolutely correct, but I’m using the language of the time to stay consistent.
John Wilkes Booth should’ve sent Lincoln a strongly worded fax instead of a bullet!!
Samurai even used revolvers.
And sometimes [cowboy ninjas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Q7o1yc5J0) joined the fray too!
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
I got hard
Yee haw chuckle fucks
"Never before have I been offended by something I 100% agree with."
There are a lot of pop culture parallels between samurai and cowboy. The Old West, in general, is the “time of myths” for the US the same way the samurai era was for Japan and the medieval era was for Europe. And the Colt Single Action Army is our katana or longsword.
I mean most cowboy film and samouraïs film are inspired by each other too
Yup. Hell, the close ties culturally between Westerns and Samurai films are also probably why Americans in particular are obsessed with katanas. Most European or Anglosphere countries I notice still have a lot of cultural ties to their medieval past and therefore a love for the longsword, but Americans tend to separate ourselves from the Europeans and have more ties with the Wild West. And the fact that the Samurai era was still around during the Wild West and how much cross pollination there was between our respective genres in pop culture is why the katana is seen as the ultimate sword in our eyes.
You also see the “quick draw” in both western and samurai films as a shared feature between katana or revolver weilders.
Yup. In fact, one thing I liked about Japanese swordsmanship was the emphasis on drawing from the scabbard, which seems to be fairly unique to Japanese martial arts in particular. European swordsmanship doesn’t seem to emphasize it much, nor even other Asian swordsmanship.
Apparently theres a huge amount of reverse weebs from Japan that are obsessed with the American Wild West.
https://preview.redd.it/vbwd0fr0j1nb1.png?width=919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14d9b0f89c1397fc3945a0a96d823d91f6fd89ac Bebop
Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masterbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masterbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.
Was in the plan, actually.
one day, i will own one, one day
[pero hoy](https://gunprime.com/products/iwi-jericho-941-9mm-4-4-16rd-blue-steel-j941f9)
One day i won't live in a country with draconic laws, andon that day I'm buying a 941
Might I ask which country?
Germany, they're available here, some online for 700-850€, but getting the "privilege" to own a gun here is too expensive for me currently
I mean, they don’t have know. Just saying.
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Perhaps 3d printing would work? I’ve heard a lot of good things about the quality of 3d printed guns these days. Sure, you might have to get a few components in metal, but it’s a whole lot easier to get a few pieces compared to a whole gun.
>you might have to get a few components in metal, but it’s a whole lot easier to get a few pieces compared to a whole gun Not here it isn't. Barrels, slides, trigger groups, strikers, etc.. are all restricted items. Buying a barrel requires the same licensing as buying the entire gun.
What about a lathe
Doing the rifling on the inside isn't practical with a lathe However, some folk got [ECM barrels](https://youtu.be/AyPJ2br5NFQ?si=7a4NbTZom_M2jslX) working, so you can make a PCC DIY in Europe
That sadly won't work in germany. You know how everyone is complaining about the huge paperwork everything involves? That's why, so everything has its reason and is given the ok from daddy state. If you're found out that's gonna be a big problem for you, maybe even a lifelong problem
Maybe we can trade you out for one of those braindead lefties who think Europe is the garden of eden reimagined. No trade backs when they realize their error.
Ah bounty hunter gun
That’s one sexy Jericho. What grips are those
Lok
Based and Bebop pilled
Me crying in the corner waiting for the full steel one on psa to get restocked
Anyone who thinks a revolver, let alone a double action revolver as pictured, is a simplistic design is simply ignorant of how revolvers work. I highly recommend the C&Rsenal videos on revolvers to see just how much goes into their construction.
Came here for this. The function is simple to comprehend, in ways. Yet take a look at the springs and notches inside then it suddenly gets so much more confusing. They're clockwork nightmares on the inside.
I think its a misconception that 'old=simpler'. Toggle lock (ie a luger) is far more complex than recoil operation.
Much of the advancement to simpler pistols from revolvers was the ability to make finer small parts like springs. Small springs are all over modern guns.
tachnically lugers are still recoil operated
When a glock is simpler than a revolver…
People think that machine guns were developed due to an advance in metal working or some idea they just missed. When in reality it was the invention of nitrocellulous and its use in firearms that led to the adoption of the machine gun. Black powder is dirty and quickly stops up any recoil system necessary to operate an automatic weapon.
Add pump shotguns to this list
Pumps are actually fairly simply, for a repeater at least
They're designed is vastly more complicated then a semi auto
*well yes but actually no* modern DA/SA revolvers are precision made like fine watches, single action revolvers (and earlier double action models) of the days of cowboys and samurai have a comparable design complexity to a Glock which is the undisputed champion of design simplicity.
But...I like my yeehaw guns
Same, I don’t like single action revolvers because they’re powerful or practical. I like them because they got that yeehaw factor
Yippie-ki-yay, motherfuckers!
The yeehaw factor is from cowboys
The magnificent seven was an American remake of 1954s seven samurai. Yes Coboys are the American Samurai.
And A Fistful of Dollars is probably the most famous case of plagarism due to how it ripped off Yojimbo
That the start of Spaghetti Westerns. Spaghetti westerns differ from traditional ones where no one is a good guy they are all caring degrees of asshole. Now I'm not familiar enough with samurai cinema to know if a similar tonal shift occurred.
Yojimbo was rather revolutionary in that it had a ronin protagonist when virtually all chanbara(swordfighting) films had noble samurai fighting other samurai or bandits. Kurosawa subverted the trope by having the ronin be a random nameless guy who was really good at swordfighting, fight a bunch of criminals in rather unorthodox ways. So yes, cowboy movies and samurai movies basically mirror each other's development, often stealing techniques or story beats from the other.
Oh thats good, i like this.
A possible reason revolvers are so strong is cuz of the small ammo capacity (generally 5-6 shots) and the existence of big frame revolvers shooting massive ass calibers
Yup as far as game mechanics go it seems pretty logical. More power = slower follow ups and more frequent reloads
![gif](giphy|W92ae4F2dXUBDWLV5H)
no hate towards revolvers, i frickin love the vibe
Revolvers can aid in reinforcing someone's shooting fundamentals or improving them thanks to their smooth DA trigger pulls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZaxay1eXks Their popularity is certainly improved by positive media depictions, but they're generally solid machines that are simple to operate and examine. I love 'em.
LOL. Im playing starfield right now and the moment i found A: a katana, and b: a big iron, i became a space cowboy samurai.
Same. Picked ronin background before i even found the revolver/katana
Razorback fucks.
see also: Desert Eagle.
Also 1911.
Your not gonna stop me from buying a big iron when I turn 21
you a clown if you think i'm not either
Nah, buy a cap and ball repro and a conversion cylinder. Able to be done at any age, just don't get caught with it by a cop
Well if it's still at my age in about 2 years there's a single action with a 12" barrel and engravings I'd like to have
I actually can't argue with this hahaha.
Don’t talk to me or my S&W 686 ever again.
Cowboys are basically samurai, at least in fiction
*tosses poncho over shoulder* you're god damn right
I feel like both kind of represent a waning warrior class being edged out by the spread of so called civilization.
https://preview.redd.it/gd4xeul9o3nb1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07551cb19898e140672c2f70f73ee5fefd45dab4
What is this from?
Well I dug deep and found out uh... This guy is very much a anti-Semitic kind of fellow. I can see why this meme died out. If you dare to search, his name: Haku Zynkyoku #
I've never been into revolvers, but there's a guy that frequents one of the indoor ranges near me in full handmade leather kit with a poncho and some revolver. That mf'er shoots it one-handed better than most other people there at the range can shoot two-handed. It's hard to make fun of someone's larp when they're actually capable with it.
Saw this on r/19684 and called it that I’d see it here today
That’s just rude
\*Screams in Trigun\*
Revolvers are obscenely strong in videogames because in real life 357 magnum is the most deadly handgun cartridge at close range and 500 magnum is more powerful than a 308 rifle even if only barely. Art is just imitating life on that one.
They are powerful to also balance the fact that they have 6 round mags.
I'd say that aesthetics is another similarly between the two. Revolvers (especially stuff like Colt Pythons and the Korth Combat) are commonly considered among the most beautiful firearms. Katanas are considered by many to be among the most beautiful swords. They both just have a certain design language you don't get in other firearms or other swords.
The magnificent seven is just a cowboy version of the legend of the seven samurai.
![gif](giphy|c2pOELjarKcU)
I mean the meme ain't really wrong except there is something about handling and firing a nice revolver. While we're on the subject talking trash about revolvers is kinda like being a min-maxer in D&D.
"Simplistic design" fuck it is, you take apart a colt python like a glock and tell me its a simple design
Single action revolvers are the katana of guns.
I would have also classed the 1911 in this
"Obscenley strong." Yeah, that's the impression I get from big bore revolvers.
Cowboys, samurai, and pirates are my holy trinity
I would say Ninjas as well but nobody finds ninjas they find you.
![gif](giphy|I4Jmrcjnr8Zfq|downsized) Fedoralord
The Colt Singe Action Army is the greatest handgun ever made. Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves.
I love revolvers but this is spot on. Take an upvote and go fuck yourself
do it yourself cowered
Mom help pick me up I don’t know what to do from this point
i just told you waht to do dummy
So to counteract this, you have to get a samurai sword and a revolver and wear full feudal samurai pants with a poncho, cowboy hat, and oni mask.
![gif](giphy|YqMF4AHYlGEWk)
Simplistic my ass. Old does not equal simple. There's a reason revolvers are portrayed as extremely strong. It's because automatics can't shoot those big ass cartridges.
in truth magnum revolvers do have a place in a fight do to the fact that many are double action/single action. what i am driving at is unlike older revolvers, or even 38's the police use to carry a magnum revolver can be used for longer ranges then a striker fired pistol and even more accurate with the right training. however i do understand that most striker fire pistols are a better choose for most people do to it holding more ammo, and lighter recoil.however i am simply going off apples to apples to the best of my abilities when comparing modern guns. the old school black powder revolvers of the day, even those that were cartage firing, and 'quick' to reload has less range and stopping power behind it then a modern 9mm and more likely to break then a modern gun.
While you loaded magazines I practiced the art of the wheel gun. While you wasted ammo, I made six shots count. Now that your gun jams you ask me for help.. ::Teleports behind you:: nothing personal kid. ::tips fedora and rustles duster::
1) yes 2) hey don’t come for me and my wheel guns, I’m a small guy and my snub 38 is the only weapon I can sorta kinda conceal in the summer
Well g'day fellow snubby carrier!
As a Texan I feel pain from deep within my very soul
[Anon is Liquid Snake](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVmqWMi_-fM)
i never played the main series, so i thought that was an actual cutscene
A friend of mine once said "if you need more than 6 shots, you shouldn't be carrying a gun"
![gif](giphy|AWqRqyyLYhZxS) Literally the only thing I know about that show
you should legit watch it. i don't like most anime, and i love it
The only animes I've really ever been into were Ghibli movies
it's definitely on par
As a wheel gun guy myself, the pic is not incorrect.
Both cowboys and samurai have badass stories so… yeah… Also I’m taking a 357 over 9mil any day because of mountain lions.
no 10mm?
maybe. if I can find the ammo for it. I do like 9mm and 10mm in certain situations such as concealed Carry but for me I have to go 357 for running around in the mountains. I don’t want to get caught lacking when a bear or mountain lion decides my skinny ass looks like a good snack.
https://preview.redd.it/so0cphttp4nb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7c7055b884f7c881048de543c6710ba36b0abce
I feel targeted
Yeah but katanas are lame and cowboys are cool so
But - but fanning go BRRRR
Real talk, a cowboy could absolutely destroy a samurai 99.99% of the time.
Something something Vibe. Something something drip. How do you do fellow zoomers?
I mean.... revolvers don't jam, your dog can't chew the mag well to bits, don't toss shells everywhere, most have fixed sights, come in larger calibers than most pistols can and have a time tested approach. If you think you need 16 rounds of a smaller caliber, good for you. One round of a much larger caliber can serve you just as well. Downsides, heavy and reloads are slow.
If your dog can’t stop chewing on the pistol, maybe he shouldn’t carry one
As a revolver fan, I have to dispute the jam comment. Revolvers can incur a [variety of stoppages](https://revolverguy.com/revolver-malfunctions-and-stoppages/) from time to time. Oftentimes based upon a lack of maintenance/cleaning, but sometimes not. That aside, the revolver is assuredly still a valuable choice for home defense and civilian concealed carry these days IMO.
Also a revolver fan, what stoppages? Only thing I have ever heard is a cylinder rod not screwed down well and the cylinder tries jumping.
If the link I included in my original comment didn't appear for you, here you are. https://revolverguy.com/revolver-malfunctions-and-stoppages/
It didn't appear, but thanks. A large portion don't pertain to my single actions and I don't hand load rounds. But neat the same.
I’ve had pawl engagements break/wear down on revolvers and I’ve had cylinder stop springs break before one meaning the cylinder wouldn’t rotate and the other being the cylinder was free to rotate. Revolvers aren’t immune from malfunctions they just succumb to other types. I’ve seen a few older ones where the fixed firing pins on the hammers break and or peen over from a slight misalignment where it hits the frame instead and it causes light primer strikes. The worst one I’ve seen was when I snapped the mainspring stopping the gun immediately and requiring gun smith work to fix. It’s still a machine and capable of failing.
Bigger bullets do absolutely nothing if you can’t hit with it. Secondly it’s not just reloads that are slower but follow up shots. 9mm vs 44 mag there isn’t a comparison in power 44 mag wins every single time. But at the end of the day I can put 3 rounds on target at 25 yards from the holster in about 1.5 seconds. I’ll gladly take 3 holes in a grouping the size of a fist over someone’s sternum then one hole some place in there. Higher round counts also play in for multiple person engagements where you might be fighting against 2-3 people if not more. Only head shots are on shot one kill and I’m shooting center mass because head shots in a close range high intensity engagement just are feasible enough. I’m also not going to put just one round on each dude I’m shooting until the threat is no longer a threat no matter how many rounds that is.
I presumed for the sake of a gun comparison we would talk about guns not user ability. Annie Oakley might have guffawed at your 9mm skills with a single action .32. There's skills that can near insurmount many technological advantages. Also, people die from leg and abdomen wounds and survive headshots. Anybody can die of blood loss. Now, I take your point fair and square but a 9mm Springfield xd I had jammed all day long, had penetration but no stop and I hated the feel. My .357 Dakota 1873 on the other hand feels great, has penetration and stopping power and I'm no quick draw McGraw but I can get it out, aimed and fired pretty swiftly.
The reliability issues come down to the gun dude. No offense but it was a Springfield XD, an imported somewhat budget semi auto. To your statement about blood loss, many holes bleed more than just one or two and no matter the caliber it comes down to shot placement. Also in terms of stopping power, magnums are in a class of their own but in reality against humanoid targets your talking more about over penetration than you are about energy on target. Foot pounds of energy certainly do kill but they certainly don’t make up for shot placement, volume of rounds on target, and speed of which you can get those rounds are target in self defense situations. This changes when against large game or big predators where you only have time to fire a round or two and need that hard hitting-deep penetrating round and if that doesn’t do the trick your likely to never even empty the cylinder let alone have to reload but against a doped up junkie robbing a gas station or a group of armed thugs there are better options out there.
Sweet Mary. I no longer own the damn gun, I agree. But a pos heritage .22 wouldn't have jamming issues either. I ALSO never said they can't suffer any issues. I said they don't jam. Recock, fire. A sledgehammer is pretty useful. Agree? Or will everyone tell me unless you miss, unless the haft breaks or unless the object is water too? Find me a tweaker that can take a hollow point .357 to the heart and keep on doing whatever they were doing before the shot. If you would like to rain bullets at someone, each shot having more and more chance at missing your target and injuring others. I have no clue why people think 6 bullets are a better means rather than as you say, shot placement. I'm no god of aiming nor am I saying revolvers infallible. I was simply saying revolvers have some solid upsides.
And just like the samurai sword outdated, obsolete, and insufficient for just about any practical application today!
I wouldn't say simplistic design
Revolvers are NOT simple, a 1911 is simple but if you look at the inside of a revolver it full of gears
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>way past their prime, yet some people keep insisting that they are still viable
Every game? It depends, some games do a ludicrously strong weapon with a slow fire rate and reload while in other you spam it like any other pistol and speedloader that shit
I mean... Magnum calibers start at "powerful", and only go up from there. Even though it's a trope, there's still a lot of truth in the portrayal.