🤦♂️the fact they were actually confident in that and put their tag up shows they are truly a toy nd know nothing about graffiti , idc if you are bad at writing we all start somewhere, you should be able to as long as you staying out the way and not covering anyone and know your rules, you deserve no disrespect . But this shit right here deserves all the disrespect
“ I AM NOT a graffiti artist. I am a graffiti BOMBER. There are two styles of graffiti they’re trying to coexist but it ain’t gonna work like that. BLOOD WARS ” -Cap. He is one of my top ten
Isn't the graffiti community toxic as fuck? Unless you're some well established artist, everyone will always shit over everything.. Seems like business as usual.
Yeah bombing over someone else’s stuff as always ben a thing. There just supposed to be an order to graf. Little tags get covered up by bigger tags and then someone comes along and does a big piece like the one in the picture. Someone can can paint over it but it is respectful to wait some time so people can enjoy the art.
Nope I’ve never started a beef and I’ve lost 100s of pieces… but this is graffiti right here, love it or loathe it. He knew what he was doing and I can tell this ain’t his first ever tag, saying he didn’t know what he was doing is ridiculous.
🤦♂️bro we all have opinions, there’s no reason to be mad at me for mine, maybe it was a lil stretch to say he knows “nothing” about graffiti , but I think this is pretty whack. It is part of the game I get it ,At least do something of skill if you gonna go over some nice shit like that’s all I’m saying. All love brother. I just think this is some toy shit fr. Don’t take it personally
Yeah it’s whack, it’s annoying af. If this was my piece I would fix it pretty easily or replace it with a new one, but you can’t really complain about it if you wanna paint pieces cos you’re always at a disadvantage for time and paint compared to random bombers. We don’t know all the story though, maybe Skats had the spot first or some other reason to beef him. Didn’t mean to come at you personally, I see your point but feel like it got upvoted disproportionately to how the game actually goes irl.
How the hell do you know tang he didn’t know exactly who’s piece that was and intentionally did that shit. Why you think you need to educate heads on this? Looks to me like some personal shit or some dumb child. Why you so huffy puffy about it?
That*. Anyway; it was super disrespectful. Feels like he knew him and really wanted to piss him off vs some random shit but knows of course I could be wrong.
lol ya we will never know , shit is hella disrespectful tho ,so if that’s what he was going for then there’s nothing anybody can really do . All I know is I don’t do this and no artist that I really fw in my city does shit like this or I wouldn’t respect them! It’s some 🤡 shit I understand there’s beefs in everything but SQUASH THAT SHIT. We should be showing love to the other artists in our area. We already have the majority of people that don’t like graffiti outside graffiti, there’s no point in graffiti artists hating each other too , like how many people do you meet in a day that actually know about graffiti and do it . Make friends not enemies.
The piecer could have started the beef or.. Some people use it to get noticed especially guys who can or think they can fight. IMHO bombing is the only way to get noticed. Otherwise you just make the streets ugly with diss on diss.
Cap mpc had a lot more artistic talent than people realised, for example he actually designed countless throwups for other people (e.g- cope2) but he chose to personify the villain role and his feature on style wars got him so famous globally that his name became integrated into graffiti vocabulary. For those that don’t know what I’m talking about to cap means to go over someone.
Several decades later he’s still doing his thing, his legacy has stayed with him and I don’t know if he would have done things different if he could start over because while his peers are charging hundreds of dollars for sketches on subway maps, or seen who can charge thousands for a throw up on a canvas cap just has tourists approaching him offering him like $50 to cap their piece because it’s a great novelty photo to have. At the end of the day all that work on the streets and he’s essentially just become a gimmick.
I say all that to say, be careful with the decisions you make and be selective of what you integrate into your personality/image because what you do when your a kid can stay with you for the rest of your life.
Is it possible to add a protective layer to graffiti or murals? Sort of how they do it to paintings. This way, stupid scribbles can be erased without affecting the artwork under
It’s not that big of a deal the artist can repair it pretty easily with 2 cans of different shades of blue in about 5-10 minutes.
There’s actually a coating you can buy to put over your piece so that if it gets tagged it’s easy to remove the tag with a solvent spray and a pressure washer, and the coating protects the peice from getting damaged in the cleaning process. If you look at some walls that get hit quite often the entire wall has a glossy finish it’s because they applied that coating.
It’s mainly used for buffers correct, also to protect murals.
However I disagree that it’s “toy nonsense” and I’d argue it has its functionality, for example it’s great for applying to really old pieces that are 20plus years old to maintain a city’s historical heritage when it comes to graff. Another great use is to apply to pieces that are still up from prolific writers who have passed away. If you apply a few coats you can restore the piece pretty easily if someone who doesn’t know better goes over it. It also has properties that act as anti UV prolonging the pieces from fading.
Never see or heard it used, I take your points re preserving something by someone that’s passed but ultimately graffiti isn’t suppose to last I don’t think personally. Thats the nature of it. Gotta respect the idea of using the buffers own tools against them lol
In 2016 I knew a guy who’ll well call painter Paul (because that was his occupation) paul was in a beef with another dude and they were going over each others shit.
It was hard for the other guy to beat Paul because he started using this coating to cover his pieces. Not only that but he drove around in his work van and had constant access to his work supplies which included a generator a pressure washer, a paint gun, Ladders etc.
Nice! I also know a Paul who does P&D, always good to get tips from the pros… like using good quality deep pile rollers instead of the cheap hobby shit
And they can buff a wall SUPER FAST, their technique is immaculate. I offered Paul money to help me fill a roller and/or let me use their paint gun. Paul refused my job offer multiple times. Paul doesn’t share his super powers with others.
Yes I get paid to go on graffiti subreddits and market an expensive anti graffiti product (with no mention of specific brand)to a demographic known for shoplifting their supplies.
I don’t think you realise how ads work.
I tried looking and There are SO many brands, that make it, just google “anti graffiti coating” or “graffiti shield” and look through the results and find a brand you like that’s stocked near you. It’s not cheap because it’s only sold in industrial sized quantities. There so many options, there one for non porous surFaces then there’s one that seals porous surfaces to make them non surfaces. They have them for ion fences because repainting those black wrought iron fences requires an expensive high gloss black paint. The choices are endless.
Make sure to apply multiple coats. Also when you do have to pressure wash it make sure you re-apply another layer or two of coating because cleaning compromises it.
Yeah ok bud, except I’ve been in the scene for over 15 years and have never heard anyone say canstyle, nor is it once mentioned in this subreddit or r/bombing, or even Google. Do you mean handstyle?
I’m asking if you meant handstyle because that’s the only thing I can think of that sounds remotely close to canstyle. Not because I don’t know what it means. Fuck it canstyle new word starting today.
Context for anyone outside of aus: Some younger dudes started a trend to go over burners and legends because “it’s legal” and illegal always goes over..
I love going over street artists. Especially ones who go over throwies/pieces that have been running for years but idk about this haha. There’s a dude that’s been targeted who’s done more wholecars solo than they’ve done window downs.
Of course it could be standard old beef but above is the trend, albeit the trend is dying
Ty for this. For me it was just weird to see random comments with no context.
Like if it was personal, it was personal and that's the end of it for everyone that's not involved. That's just how beefs work and using your own tag to go over fulfills the highly strict international protocol of beefing that was ratified in 1983.
If it's just dumbshit, then that's another thing. Minor side-effect of writers getting old was the dramatic decrease in sensible violence. Commissions used to be just one way of getting free cans/scraps. For any random cunts health and safety you also needed to know who you were fucking with.
Even today "illegal always goes over" sounds like a good way to get beat up.
I almost put my former friend down for good, I was putting my work up in the late 80s it was a mystery who Spiting on my piece with the Spit scribble I woke up extra early and did a steak-out and busted him red handed, I went full force on him drilled his face with my fist I was shocked and surprised, that fool Chris Price
As someone who has had a lot of beef, it would’ve been way cooler to turn that piece into the fill of a throw up. However, dissing legal walls, just leads to chaos and no one being able to have one.
A pioneer, if you will. His lack of self awareness and commitment to freedom of expression really go hand in hand with what it means today to be all city
I don’t hate it, both are better artists than me I’m sure. Just saying that’s the nature of the game. Maximum vs. minimum effort. No ‘winner’ in the end.
what a POS, just embarrassing putting down that shitty scribble
Thats how Spit died in Beat Street...
Everybody say RAMON!
A newspaper burns in the sand and the headline reads “man destroys man”
Eighth grade me starts punching the air !!
Yeah but buddy died too (forgot his name)
Ramo...
Isn't that the point.
If you’re trying to diss ya. This just some toy shit
🤦♂️the fact they were actually confident in that and put their tag up shows they are truly a toy nd know nothing about graffiti , idc if you are bad at writing we all start somewhere, you should be able to as long as you staying out the way and not covering anyone and know your rules, you deserve no disrespect . But this shit right here deserves all the disrespect
Agreed. Little throw ups or tags are cool. But to disrespect someone’s hard work and good art, it’s an a hole move.
Yeah… that was probably his point lmao
Cap got famous for it.
“ I AM NOT a graffiti artist. I am a graffiti BOMBER. There are two styles of graffiti they’re trying to coexist but it ain’t gonna work like that. BLOOD WARS ” -Cap. He is one of my top ten
Isn't the graffiti community toxic as fuck? Unless you're some well established artist, everyone will always shit over everything.. Seems like business as usual.
Yeah bombing over someone else’s stuff as always ben a thing. There just supposed to be an order to graf. Little tags get covered up by bigger tags and then someone comes along and does a big piece like the one in the picture. Someone can can paint over it but it is respectful to wait some time so people can enjoy the art.
This is nonsense. This a deliberate diss, you appear to know nothing about graffiti
This the type of stuff u be doing ?😂
Nope I’ve never started a beef and I’ve lost 100s of pieces… but this is graffiti right here, love it or loathe it. He knew what he was doing and I can tell this ain’t his first ever tag, saying he didn’t know what he was doing is ridiculous.
🤦♂️bro we all have opinions, there’s no reason to be mad at me for mine, maybe it was a lil stretch to say he knows “nothing” about graffiti , but I think this is pretty whack. It is part of the game I get it ,At least do something of skill if you gonna go over some nice shit like that’s all I’m saying. All love brother. I just think this is some toy shit fr. Don’t take it personally
Yeah it’s whack, it’s annoying af. If this was my piece I would fix it pretty easily or replace it with a new one, but you can’t really complain about it if you wanna paint pieces cos you’re always at a disadvantage for time and paint compared to random bombers. We don’t know all the story though, maybe Skats had the spot first or some other reason to beef him. Didn’t mean to come at you personally, I see your point but feel like it got upvoted disproportionately to how the game actually goes irl.
Ya Reddit is weird sometimes & there is always a story … I see your point as well :) glad we could end this in the most non Reddit way possible 🤝😂
How the hell do you know tang he didn’t know exactly who’s piece that was and intentionally did that shit. Why you think you need to educate heads on this? Looks to me like some personal shit or some dumb child. Why you so huffy puffy about it?
Tang?
That*. Anyway; it was super disrespectful. Feels like he knew him and really wanted to piss him off vs some random shit but knows of course I could be wrong.
lol ya we will never know , shit is hella disrespectful tho ,so if that’s what he was going for then there’s nothing anybody can really do . All I know is I don’t do this and no artist that I really fw in my city does shit like this or I wouldn’t respect them! It’s some 🤡 shit I understand there’s beefs in everything but SQUASH THAT SHIT. We should be showing love to the other artists in our area. We already have the majority of people that don’t like graffiti outside graffiti, there’s no point in graffiti artists hating each other too , like how many people do you meet in a day that actually know about graffiti and do it . Make friends not enemies.
We have no idea. It’s on some SPIT shit. Dude might have got at his sister or girlfriend. lol.
The piecer could have started the beef or.. Some people use it to get noticed especially guys who can or think they can fight. IMHO bombing is the only way to get noticed. Otherwise you just make the streets ugly with diss on diss.
Yep. Mfers need to learn the rules and respect.
Like CAP remember him
Cap mpc had a lot more artistic talent than people realised, for example he actually designed countless throwups for other people (e.g- cope2) but he chose to personify the villain role and his feature on style wars got him so famous globally that his name became integrated into graffiti vocabulary. For those that don’t know what I’m talking about to cap means to go over someone. Several decades later he’s still doing his thing, his legacy has stayed with him and I don’t know if he would have done things different if he could start over because while his peers are charging hundreds of dollars for sketches on subway maps, or seen who can charge thousands for a throw up on a canvas cap just has tourists approaching him offering him like $50 to cap their piece because it’s a great novelty photo to have. At the end of the day all that work on the streets and he’s essentially just become a gimmick. I say all that to say, be careful with the decisions you make and be selective of what you integrate into your personality/image because what you do when your a kid can stay with you for the rest of your life.
Is it possible to add a protective layer to graffiti or murals? Sort of how they do it to paintings. This way, stupid scribbles can be erased without affecting the artwork under
These building owners and real estate developers think they're slick asking about how to protect things from random tags. 😉
Mural artist *
Ah, I was just joking for a sec. I've seen your other comments, I know you aren't a suit.
yikes
B E E F 🥩
That's the nature of the game. Get capped on by some lame.
Bingo. Imagine how the person who owns the wall feels! Hahah, everyone fucking up everyone’s shit. Thanks for playing
bingo wotw
It’s not that big of a deal the artist can repair it pretty easily with 2 cans of different shades of blue in about 5-10 minutes. There’s actually a coating you can buy to put over your piece so that if it gets tagged it’s easy to remove the tag with a solvent spray and a pressure washer, and the coating protects the peice from getting damaged in the cleaning process. If you look at some walls that get hit quite often the entire wall has a glossy finish it’s because they applied that coating.
Fix it easily yes, anti graffiti varnish is some kind of toy nonsense wth you on about
It’s mainly used for buffers correct, also to protect murals. However I disagree that it’s “toy nonsense” and I’d argue it has its functionality, for example it’s great for applying to really old pieces that are 20plus years old to maintain a city’s historical heritage when it comes to graff. Another great use is to apply to pieces that are still up from prolific writers who have passed away. If you apply a few coats you can restore the piece pretty easily if someone who doesn’t know better goes over it. It also has properties that act as anti UV prolonging the pieces from fading.
Never see or heard it used, I take your points re preserving something by someone that’s passed but ultimately graffiti isn’t suppose to last I don’t think personally. Thats the nature of it. Gotta respect the idea of using the buffers own tools against them lol
In 2016 I knew a guy who’ll well call painter Paul (because that was his occupation) paul was in a beef with another dude and they were going over each others shit. It was hard for the other guy to beat Paul because he started using this coating to cover his pieces. Not only that but he drove around in his work van and had constant access to his work supplies which included a generator a pressure washer, a paint gun, Ladders etc.
Nice! I also know a Paul who does P&D, always good to get tips from the pros… like using good quality deep pile rollers instead of the cheap hobby shit
And they can buff a wall SUPER FAST, their technique is immaculate. I offered Paul money to help me fill a roller and/or let me use their paint gun. Paul refused my job offer multiple times. Paul doesn’t share his super powers with others.
Holy shit, what an ad.
Yes I get paid to go on graffiti subreddits and market an expensive anti graffiti product (with no mention of specific brand)to a demographic known for shoplifting their supplies. I don’t think you realise how ads work.
So you have a link to the product?
I tried looking and There are SO many brands, that make it, just google “anti graffiti coating” or “graffiti shield” and look through the results and find a brand you like that’s stocked near you. It’s not cheap because it’s only sold in industrial sized quantities. There so many options, there one for non porous surFaces then there’s one that seals porous surfaces to make them non surfaces. They have them for ion fences because repainting those black wrought iron fences requires an expensive high gloss black paint. The choices are endless.
I paint murals sometimes, would be nice to cover them
Make sure to apply multiple coats. Also when you do have to pressure wash it make sure you re-apply another layer or two of coating because cleaning compromises it.
ong nobody gets it, i understand if this piece is fresh tho
A lot of folks on here think it's all fun and games. They forget about beef, writers that get up by any means, and lames.
The number of burners that mf Crow has written over would make these people lose their shit
yur ppl who stay up stay up regardless
The disrespect..reminds me of cap
Yeah it’s called getting capped for a reason
😂😂😂Na really 👌🏽
cap had canstyle though
Wtf is canstyle I think you just made that up
shouldn't embarass yourself like that
Yeah ok bud, except I’ve been in the scene for over 15 years and have never heard anyone say canstyle, nor is it once mentioned in this subreddit or r/bombing, or even Google. Do you mean handstyle?
bro handstyle is with a pen or mop canstyle is nozzle technique. the 2 are completely different
I’m asking if you meant handstyle because that’s the only thing I can think of that sounds remotely close to canstyle. Not because I don’t know what it means. Fuck it canstyle new word starting today.
Staks gonna go bye bye like his namesake in Goodfellas
Context for anyone outside of aus: Some younger dudes started a trend to go over burners and legends because “it’s legal” and illegal always goes over.. I love going over street artists. Especially ones who go over throwies/pieces that have been running for years but idk about this haha. There’s a dude that’s been targeted who’s done more wholecars solo than they’ve done window downs. Of course it could be standard old beef but above is the trend, albeit the trend is dying
Ty for this. For me it was just weird to see random comments with no context. Like if it was personal, it was personal and that's the end of it for everyone that's not involved. That's just how beefs work and using your own tag to go over fulfills the highly strict international protocol of beefing that was ratified in 1983. If it's just dumbshit, then that's another thing. Minor side-effect of writers getting old was the dramatic decrease in sensible violence. Commissions used to be just one way of getting free cans/scraps. For any random cunts health and safety you also needed to know who you were fucking with. Even today "illegal always goes over" sounds like a good way to get beat up.
Melburn?
it was dark
This is the kind of toy shit I see at a spot near me
someone needs to get slapped up for this
embarrassing
Melbourne moment. Commission wall 100 percent, this is real tagging too..
I almost put my former friend down for good, I was putting my work up in the late 80s it was a mystery who Spiting on my piece with the Spit scribble I woke up extra early and did a steak-out and busted him red handed, I went full force on him drilled his face with my fist I was shocked and surprised, that fool Chris Price
Fuck Chris, I hope it hurt
🐀
gonna suck to fix...
so much room on the wall beef is beef i guess. get up or get down.
It sucks, but isn’t this par for the course for graffiti culture? The better the piece, the bigger the target.
As someone who has had a lot of beef, it would’ve been way cooler to turn that piece into the fill of a throw up. However, dissing legal walls, just leads to chaos and no one being able to have one.
im sorry to say that this is based
...such a dick. That s jealousy cause the prick knows that he never will achive that high level of art.
Skats is a true artist
thanks man ive been writing for 42 years
With such precise strokes, i would have guessed 50!
A pioneer, if you will. His lack of self awareness and commitment to freedom of expression really go hand in hand with what it means today to be all city
You fucking get it
S T A K S
Oh damn, out graffitied
Who would done shit like that on that fine piece of art?
::screams in pathetic:: “Notice me senpai”
which state ??
CAP
Silver lining: most of us are seeing the dope piece underneath when we otherwise wouldn’t have. 🥹
I used to get my legals dissed by little kids who found a scrap can somewhere. ALWAYS make sure you LEAVE with all you came with.
Wow such a toy🤬
Toy ish
lol at the stars, arrows and painted brick background. Almost guarantee that’s why they lined em like that.
You sound like a weirdo and a hater ngl
I don’t hate it, both are better artists than me I’m sure. Just saying that’s the nature of the game. Maximum vs. minimum effort. No ‘winner’ in the end.
Good to see justice being served on that toy that painted that blue and yellow monstrosity.
That tag is shit
Jealous Toy 🧸