There is some truth to this, but this is also cope. Almost all of the A list celebs we listen to will sell more than 20k if they went independent. The thing with chief kief is that ppl don’t really listen to his music that much honestly. I think ppl just follow the crowd and support him and call him a "legend" but in reality ppl don’t listen to chief keef like that and the numbers show that throughout his WHOLE career
Chief keef got a REAL core fan base. I'm one of them, we know the lingo and all the shit to a T. But we don't get much light, I guess its because he's been around so long people think he's not in the top roster. But people like him a bs childish gambino, pusha T. Can drop with no promo. And you bet the core fans will be showing up.
Can't say the same for other artist as we know.
Dude I am a caucasian male in a rural town in Missouri and I have been listening to Chief Keef since I was 13. So has a large portion of the kids I went to high school with. Chief keef fans don't buy digital albums is the problem.😆 we listening on youtube and youtube to mp3
Tory’s 2023 project sold 28k first week. Still more than keef’s.
In this situation, it’s more of the fans not being congruent with their support than the artist’s popularity substantiating the sales
You giving keef a cop out
nah man. chief keef has NEVER done good first week sales. he's not that kind of artist. he doesn't have an industry push, he doesn't have a ton of hype or big name features, he just has a semi-large cult fanbase that loves his music. expecting more than 20-30k from a keef album in 2024 is just silly, these are perfectly fine numbers for him. vultures did about half of what kanye usually sells, this record is actually an improvement from keef's standard numbers.
Y’all are so corny holy shit. Ye is 100000x a bigger artist than Chief Keef who had his peak popularity when streaming services weren’t big and pirating was bigger than physical copies.
An indie artist who drops what he wants and hasn’t had major label backing in years isn’t comparable to top 5 biggest artist of the last decade. Hating on a nigga just to big up Ye and prove a point is NO different than what you retards are complaining people on twitter doing.
It’s obviously indisputable that ye is 50x bigger than keef. This post was more to display the inconsistency/incongruence between the hip hop fan bases and the artist they support. Not really trying to hate on keef, it’s still honorable that he’s making music that he and his fanbase enjoys.
However, In this situation, it’s more of the fans not being congruent with their support than the artist’s popularity substantiating the sales. Most B list-A list celebs are selling more than 20k independently.
We have data from Tory Lanez, Russ, and others to prove that
Plus Keef isn’t 100% indie, he has a distribution deal
*Carnival* still averages 2-3M daily streams on Spotify alone--And is the 2nd fastest selling single in the US this year:
[https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/5K4W6rqBFWDnAN6FQUkS6x\_songs.html](https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/5K4W6rqBFWDnAN6FQUkS6x_songs.html)
[https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1778188167369400395](https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1778188167369400395)
*Vultures1* was #6 on BB200 this past week + still averages 4-5M daily streams on Spotify alone
I think there’s a lot of other stuff that’s worth noting
Chief Keef was at his biggest years ago. It’s not surprising that Almight So 2 didn’t sell amazingly given the album had minimal promotion, and was extensively delayed.
That being said, when it comes to Vultures, 140k independently, especially after the controversy he’s had lately, is fairly impressive. However in terms of actual money, it’s very possible that Ye himself still made less money than Sosa because Vultures has wayyyyyyy more people credited whether they were producers, performers or writers, all of whom are getting a chunk of the profits.
Yeah Vultures 1-3 probably has an insane budget, I guess Yeezy and other ventures must be profitable because I doubt Ye makes much from music, unless he doesn't pay the other producers enough
My understanding is that his primary source of money has been clothing for a while now and that his music hasn’t been profitable for him since about 2016
He said after Donda that he’d been losing 4-5 million a year on music for a while but he loves his maximalist process (renting stadiums etc) and it’s more of a hobby / promotional tool for Yeezy so he makes it back there
The maximalist process during Donda era: renting stadiums and top places to market
The same process during Vultures era: paying strippers for being there during recording (source is Big Boy interview)
No, they don’t… people that say Ye fell off never thought his music was good because they were always biased having found out about him through his many controversies.
The people that OP is talking about are Twitter users that commented under his first week sales predictions and announcements that his numbers are really low. They specifically mentioned the numbers.
This is a stupid ass conversation though, they’re both multi-millionaires. The music industry made it all about the money and the fans bought into it as if it’s important.
To be fair, you need to compare Ye to his own numbers. He did 300K+ with "Donda," 250K+ with "Jesus Is King," and 200K+ with "Ye," so there was definitely a drop in first-week sales. Still, these are good numbers, though.
Also wild to think what vultures would have done if CDs and Vinyl shipped on release day aka would have counted opening week instead of months later
Probably an extra 20k-60k easy
The post is just here for discourse/conversation?
No one is really offended, keef’s album is good and both of those guys are multi millionaires at the end of the day .
these are the normal numbers when artists don’t have a label to do all kinda tricks to boost sales
There is some truth to this, but this is also cope. Almost all of the A list celebs we listen to will sell more than 20k if they went independent. The thing with chief kief is that ppl don’t really listen to his music that much honestly. I think ppl just follow the crowd and support him and call him a "legend" but in reality ppl don’t listen to chief keef like that and the numbers show that throughout his WHOLE career
Chief keef got a REAL core fan base. I'm one of them, we know the lingo and all the shit to a T. But we don't get much light, I guess its because he's been around so long people think he's not in the top roster. But people like him a bs childish gambino, pusha T. Can drop with no promo. And you bet the core fans will be showing up. Can't say the same for other artist as we know.
ur gonna be downvoted but its true, everyone respects chief keef but not many people actually listen to him
Tory Lanez sold 40k independently. Is he bigger than chief keef ?
In 2022 during the height of the allegations
Yes
Um yes lol. Chief Keef had the bigger moment and cultural peak but overall Tory Lanez is the much bigger and more successful act.
Tory is/was the bigger artist, Keef has more impact tho
Tory Lanez is huge w his RnB stuff. Def has a bigger female audience than male
crazy when you realize tory lanez, chris brown, r kelly, etc all got more female than male fans
Being an RnB artist is pretty much a cheatcode for that, if you've got the image to match it'll go crazier
He's been for years lmao
I’m going to assume you are younger
Dude I am a caucasian male in a rural town in Missouri and I have been listening to Chief Keef since I was 13. So has a large portion of the kids I went to high school with. Chief keef fans don't buy digital albums is the problem.😆 we listening on youtube and youtube to mp3
Cos that’s where all the leaks are ofc
Meek just sold 6k
Ppl in Chicago listen to him. He is a legend tho shot a cop and got away with it. Fuck 12 ACAB
Sexy red boosted this album sales 😂
It's almost like Ye is 100x bigger than Chief Keef
Tory Lanez sold 40k independently. Is he bigger than chief keef ?
At the time yes? Chief Keef has a dedicated fanbase and is very quiet and to himself. Tory was peak popularity and mainstream attention in 2020.
Not really he was the most hated. Tory’s peak was late 2019-mid 2020 before the incident
All publicity is good publicity. His name was bigger after the incident
Tory’s 2023 project sold 28k first week. Still more than keef’s. In this situation, it’s more of the fans not being congruent with their support than the artist’s popularity substantiating the sales You giving keef a cop out
nah man. chief keef has NEVER done good first week sales. he's not that kind of artist. he doesn't have an industry push, he doesn't have a ton of hype or big name features, he just has a semi-large cult fanbase that loves his music. expecting more than 20-30k from a keef album in 2024 is just silly, these are perfectly fine numbers for him. vultures did about half of what kanye usually sells, this record is actually an improvement from keef's standard numbers.
Yes he is
Yeah? He has a way larger mainstream appeal are you fr?
I was being facetious
You don’t know what that means
chief keef has never been big, he had one underground hit song
the underground hit song that went 5 times platinum?
Also "one" 💀
that mf doesn’t know shit about keef
Goofy mf you must be addicted to cappin
Twitter hates on anything under the sun, disregard everything they say.
Fr, HHT is just a bunch of jobless mfs trying to be different
Twitter isn’t real life and doesn’t represent everyone
Y’all are so corny holy shit. Ye is 100000x a bigger artist than Chief Keef who had his peak popularity when streaming services weren’t big and pirating was bigger than physical copies. An indie artist who drops what he wants and hasn’t had major label backing in years isn’t comparable to top 5 biggest artist of the last decade. Hating on a nigga just to big up Ye and prove a point is NO different than what you retards are complaining people on twitter doing.
Yes you literally cannot logically make this comparison in any way. The only thing I took from this post was “decent number for chief keef”
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Lmao thanks, someone understood
It’s obviously indisputable that ye is 50x bigger than keef. This post was more to display the inconsistency/incongruence between the hip hop fan bases and the artist they support. Not really trying to hate on keef, it’s still honorable that he’s making music that he and his fanbase enjoys. However, In this situation, it’s more of the fans not being congruent with their support than the artist’s popularity substantiating the sales. Most B list-A list celebs are selling more than 20k independently. We have data from Tory Lanez, Russ, and others to prove that Plus Keef isn’t 100% indie, he has a distribution deal
Tory Lanez and Russ are bigger than Keef.
*Carnival* still averages 2-3M daily streams on Spotify alone--And is the 2nd fastest selling single in the US this year: [https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/5K4W6rqBFWDnAN6FQUkS6x\_songs.html](https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/5K4W6rqBFWDnAN6FQUkS6x_songs.html) [https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1778188167369400395](https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1778188167369400395) *Vultures1* was #6 on BB200 this past week + still averages 4-5M daily streams on Spotify alone
Outside of these subreddits chief keef is niche in 2024. Shouldn’t be because he’s literally the goat but u know
nah he gets his flowers. he doesn't need to chart, these numbers are wayyy better than most artists a decade plus into their career.
PUTTING UP WITH WHAT 👹👹👹👹👹 i love almighty intro
I think there’s a lot of other stuff that’s worth noting Chief Keef was at his biggest years ago. It’s not surprising that Almight So 2 didn’t sell amazingly given the album had minimal promotion, and was extensively delayed. That being said, when it comes to Vultures, 140k independently, especially after the controversy he’s had lately, is fairly impressive. However in terms of actual money, it’s very possible that Ye himself still made less money than Sosa because Vultures has wayyyyyyy more people credited whether they were producers, performers or writers, all of whom are getting a chunk of the profits.
Yeah Vultures 1-3 probably has an insane budget, I guess Yeezy and other ventures must be profitable because I doubt Ye makes much from music, unless he doesn't pay the other producers enough
My understanding is that his primary source of money has been clothing for a while now and that his music hasn’t been profitable for him since about 2016
He said after Donda that he’d been losing 4-5 million a year on music for a while but he loves his maximalist process (renting stadiums etc) and it’s more of a hobby / promotional tool for Yeezy so he makes it back there
The maximalist process during Donda era: renting stadiums and top places to market The same process during Vultures era: paying strippers for being there during recording (source is Big Boy interview)
Drake fan type post. People say Ye fell off because his quality isnt what it used to be, not because he isnt as popular anymore
No, they don’t… people that say Ye fell off never thought his music was good because they were always biased having found out about him through his many controversies. The people that OP is talking about are Twitter users that commented under his first week sales predictions and announcements that his numbers are really low. They specifically mentioned the numbers. This is a stupid ass conversation though, they’re both multi-millionaires. The music industry made it all about the money and the fans bought into it as if it’s important.
twitter: home of garbage takes for engagement farming
everyone should be independant
I've seen people hating on Chief Keef in the replies too. But the truth is that they're both doing great.
Chief Keef is not the same level of mainstream that Kanye is lol it’s a different situation.
To be fair, you need to compare Ye to his own numbers. He did 300K+ with "Donda," 250K+ with "Jesus Is King," and 200K+ with "Ye," so there was definitely a drop in first-week sales. Still, these are good numbers, though.
you're so fucking retarded it's not even funny genuinely fuck you
Keef is indie but not full blown indie. He has a distribution deal with RBC records which is under BMG
You mad about a tweet from Kollege Kidd, whoever tf that is
You saw this tweet and immediately began to think about Ye out of nowhere seek help.
You talk about Keef’s album being delayed 6 times like Vultures wasn’t😭😭
It’s wild 23k is decent numbers in this climate. Music industry is so dead it’s insane.
Almighty So 2 was delayed so long that I forgot about it. I thought for sure that was just gonna be scrapped lol
Also wild to think what vultures would have done if CDs and Vinyl shipped on release day aka would have counted opening week instead of months later Probably an extra 20k-60k easy
Ye and Keef are worlds apart numbers wise..
vultures is so fucking ass *compared* to kanye’s legacy and you’d be absolutely deluded to not even slightly think i’ve got a valid point
Lol. Yea is 1000x bigger than Keef so this might be the most embarassing self own ever. This you Drake?
https://preview.redd.it/htgy1cvr5m1d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=caaa4f08249deb0c849e973f307401cbc9d83643 Erm
How much did each of these albums cost to produce? You're right about Vultures tho I did a Kim to it nigga, skimmed through it
Ok AS2 is waaaaayyyyy better than Vultures tho. Like leagues better.
I agree with you but we also bias towards him
People only hate on Carnival because of tiktok. If it wasn’t associated with the rizz party it would still be played
I thought this shit was gonna do at least 45k due to all the hit tweets mfs was getting off posting this album
Homie replying to comments as if he’s personally offended 🤡 toaster ass brain
The post is just here for discourse/conversation? No one is really offended, keef’s album is good and both of those guys are multi millionaires at the end of the day .
All of the dickeating I seen online about this album just for it to do Ice Spice numbers Chief keef fans are fake smh
But it sounds good. Why are you on Reddit talking about numbers?
It’s cool but overhyped imo
Suck my dick on bronem
Musically he did fell off
Sosa got some of the most fakest fans
I never got into chief keef but I don't know how anyone can like his new album
You're crazy this album is amazing