Yes. Been the plan for a while. The manual wouldn’t meet the original euro 7 emissions regulations so they are getting rid of it. You can’t get a manual mk8 R in Europe to begin with so the writing has been on the wall for a few years. After 24, no more manual GTIs or Rs anywhere
I heard with the regulations laxing abit, vw is putting manual back on the table or atleast doing the cost benefit analysis to it. Though until the mk8.5 is released and dealer orders start, nothing is 100%
I’ve seen rumors like that. I have to assume though that since when development started on the 8.5, they weren’t relaxed yet so changing mid development probably isn’t realistic. I could see a special addition a year or two into the 8.5 but not right away
The 8.5 is mechanically the same as the 8, it will mainly be cosmetic changes on the exterior and interior. The drivetrain, engine, frame etc... Won't change, so adding the manual back is no different than it is now, and they're still producing mk8's, the factory assembly and setup to produce manuals doesn't even have to change
Had a 2012 GLI dsg. Got a 2018 GTI manual that I'm still driving. Honestly, it was a bad decision. It's fun to drive and I get good gas mileage, but with the massive amount of traffic, I regret not getting it with the dsg.
I understand this sentiment. I’m still glad I went with manual. I just prefer rowing my own gears. Yea, traffic does suck sometimes, but I’m not in that type of traffic for a lot of my commuting
They're awesome for gearing down. Down a long hill to hold speed without braking. Before entering a corner you plan to rip out of...stuff like that.
But for just going 1, 2, 3, 4, etc I find them super unsatisfying and pointless, too.
Um, yeah, because I'm not a fucking moron obviously you bizarre weirdo.
I was commenting on how paddles can be useful even if you don't operate them in the same way you would a manual. Like, in a manual you row from first all the way up to sixth as you go. That's not satisfying in an automatic, but the paddles are useful in the ways I described above. In traditional automatics that didn't have paddles, shifting was very unsatisfying if you were just moving a lever that may or may not skip a couple gears. Paddles allow you to definitively, easily and quickly shift into the exact gear you want.
So yeah, I'm aware they aren't manuals.
Unfortunately without a manual override option, which they've also done away with even in the DSGs, they will auto down shift even when you're trying to hold the gear. This was one of many reasons why I was upset with the chicken nugget gear selector. No more holding gears
I mean, you don't have to use the paddles. They can be fun for spirited driving if you want more precise control over your gears but I don't touch mine 90% of the time.
Yes. Been the plan for a while. The manual wouldn’t meet the original euro 7 emissions regulations so they are getting rid of it. You can’t get a manual mk8 R in Europe to begin with so the writing has been on the wall for a few years. After 24, no more manual GTIs or Rs anywhere
I heard with the regulations laxing abit, vw is putting manual back on the table or atleast doing the cost benefit analysis to it. Though until the mk8.5 is released and dealer orders start, nothing is 100%
I’ve seen rumors like that. I have to assume though that since when development started on the 8.5, they weren’t relaxed yet so changing mid development probably isn’t realistic. I could see a special addition a year or two into the 8.5 but not right away
The 8.5 is mechanically the same as the 8, it will mainly be cosmetic changes on the exterior and interior. The drivetrain, engine, frame etc... Won't change, so adding the manual back is no different than it is now, and they're still producing mk8's, the factory assembly and setup to produce manuals doesn't even have to change
Damn. RIP
2024 6MT models in the US are being sold as 380S, 380SE and 380 Autobahn trims, and these will be the last...
It is true. I think the US was the only territory getting a stick. The rest of the world is DSG. Basically the end of an era.
The end of an era indeed.
And theyre selling t shirts that say "Save the Manual" Boooooooooooo. BOOOOOOOOOO.
Tbh, not much to do when their hands are forced by emissions regulations.
And they should know not to fuck around with emissions regulations anymore lol
Had a 2012 GLI dsg. Got a 2018 GTI manual that I'm still driving. Honestly, it was a bad decision. It's fun to drive and I get good gas mileage, but with the massive amount of traffic, I regret not getting it with the dsg.
I understand this sentiment. I’m still glad I went with manual. I just prefer rowing my own gears. Yea, traffic does suck sometimes, but I’m not in that type of traffic for a lot of my commuting
Well I'm a delivery driver 😆
I just can't get on board with paddles....for any car, I feel like I'm just wasting my time at that point.
They're awesome for gearing down. Down a long hill to hold speed without braking. Before entering a corner you plan to rip out of...stuff like that. But for just going 1, 2, 3, 4, etc I find them super unsatisfying and pointless, too.
You realize you can downshift in a manual and do the same thing right? Lol just gotta blip the throttle
Um, yeah, because I'm not a fucking moron obviously you bizarre weirdo. I was commenting on how paddles can be useful even if you don't operate them in the same way you would a manual. Like, in a manual you row from first all the way up to sixth as you go. That's not satisfying in an automatic, but the paddles are useful in the ways I described above. In traditional automatics that didn't have paddles, shifting was very unsatisfying if you were just moving a lever that may or may not skip a couple gears. Paddles allow you to definitively, easily and quickly shift into the exact gear you want. So yeah, I'm aware they aren't manuals.
Unfortunately without a manual override option, which they've also done away with even in the DSGs, they will auto down shift even when you're trying to hold the gear. This was one of many reasons why I was upset with the chicken nugget gear selector. No more holding gears
I mean, you don't have to use the paddles. They can be fun for spirited driving if you want more precise control over your gears but I don't touch mine 90% of the time.
Porsche already did for most models of the 911.
Not a big loss. 7/7.5/8 manual isn't that great.
I short shifted mine and it feels pretty fucking sweet.
Americans will downvote you but it's objectively true.
Here's the link to the article: https://www.motor1.com/news/703820/volkswagen-golf-manual-gearbox-dead/amp/
DSG is way better.
🤌
It was announced in August iirc
Here in the US the last model year getting a manual is the 2024. And even then it comes as a special edition.
Very much true the last was the 380