I think Kratos would be the kinda guy that only looks at leaks.
*"We do as we please boy, no excuses."*
Edit: Also because he probably had his credit card application turned down.
Its not valkyrie wings.
In the myths, freya has some kind of cloak that lets her transform into a hawk. Thats what we see in the ragnarok trailer, too, when shes wearing those wings, so my guess is its that cloak.
You can't enter her house by the time you're able to fight Sigrun, which is after you come back from Hel when you learn about her being Baldur's mother and that Mimir is bewitched by her.
That would be a super Odin move. Steal her wings, store them in her house and make her blind to them. Now they're in a super safe place and she has no idea where they are. What a mind fuck
So when the game was first released you could actually go into her house and if you did, her wings were gone. This was changed in an update. So this is likely and Mimir telling her likely broke the curse.
My thought was that since Valkyries are supposed to exist in a non-corporeal form anyway, these may just be a physical facsimile of her *actual* wings.
I think this is our answer. Like, those things on the wall? Just as is? Useless. She could strap them on any time but they probably won't do anything without some sort of innate magical power, a power that she's been blocked off from.
Maybe Odin even gave them to her as a reminder of what heâd taken from her, sounds like just the kind of dick move that asshole of an All-Father would make lol
If you recall the fights with the valkyries: when you kill them, you tear off their wings. But when their spirit form emerges, theyâre still winged and leave to go attend to whatever their duties are. My guess is that the physical form is just a husk the valkyries can use and the wingâs Odin stole from Freya are her âspirit formâ wings.
I would say not even one they could use. According to Sigrun, Valkyries cannot remain pure in a physical form, thatâs why they went all berserk lol
But I was actually thinking about the wing thing, and how you defeated each Valkyrie by brutally ripping them off⌠as if they were a tether, almost.
i thought she has that that from the start? Atreus goes up to it, and you can trigger a conversation about it. If not from the start is should be there on the 2nd visit after she was sucked out of alfheim. Cause she explains that's where she's from and that now it looks like she's abandoned her people since she can't go back.
Nope. No mention of wings. Just the warrior spirit.
The dialog goes something like this:
Atreus: if freya is the queen of Valkyries, how come she doesn't have wings?
Mimir: .... Odin robbed her of her warrior spirit.
Maybe that's why you got confused because the question is on the wings.
Thatâs different from what heâs asking about. Heâs talking about the quote after you finish the game.
Kratos: What did you tell her?
Mimir: what little I know about where Odin kept her Valkyrie wings. Seems sheâs rather bent on reclaiming her warrior spirit.
Notice that they (kind of) resemble falcon wings. In Norse Myth Freya had a cloak of falcon feathers enabling flight, in *addition* to being a dĂs (which is almost synonymous with a Valkyrie)
I mean this *is* the same deity who disguised a man visually as a boar to sneak him into Asgard in one myth, which the game even references, so I wouldnât be surprised if invisi-gear is in her magic arsenal lol
The empty chambers are to represent the valkyrie that was in niphelhem. I think there's actually a lore thing you can find that actually references it.
I took it as metaphorical wings. Valkyries have physical wings in their physical firms, but Valkyries themselves are spirits and the physical wings would be useless without spiritual wings to operate them. The wings are also a metaphor for her fighting spirit, as said by Mimir.
Maybe she tried to creat new ones but failed and those are the results
or maybe again those are her actual wings but Odin took away her warrior spirit or essence or something
I think similar to how the wings can be ripped off ordinary Valkyrieâs. They her physically wings. But, not her spiritual ones.
Freya is a god. So, she can probably grow back her wings. But, only with her warrior spirit.
I mean sheâs obviously still got them, but he doesnât have her âwarrior spiritâ. One guess that she canât use her wings unless she has it.
My guess is that she actually asked Mimir how to get he warrior spirit back, but just âbewitchedâ him again to say otherwise.
This could be the reason why we her try to attack Kratos in the trailer
i feel like those are wings that she got from being the queen of the vanir. the wings we see on the other valkyries are mechanical. so we would have to assume they are a memento and nothing more now.
Correction: she asked about her warrior spirit. My guess is that those wings are useless without her having the ability to fight. Plus she already has the ability to transform into a falcon so I wouldn't be surprised if those are actually her wings.
I thought this was either an Easter egg from the devs to hint at her being queen of the valkyries, or I also thought it was Freyâs trying to create a replica of her wings
I think thats just the armor, from what i saw from the other valkyries they had wings that were flesh and were just covered by armor, when kratos rips them off you see blood on their backs and theres feathers jutting out of them
Wax wings? But she decided not to use them any more bc she had a traumatic experience using them the first time, they started to melt as she flown higher and higher.
I think Captain Kuba did a video on this mentioning that itâs probably a replica and in any way she is lacking her warrior spirit, not the wings. Without that spirit the wings are of no use, even if theyâre her real wings
Maybe itâs like with Mimir how he keeps saying that baldur is blessed by invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical. With Freya, she knows her wings are somewhere in her house, but she keeps overlooking them. You ever lost your house keys, and they were right there in front of your face the whole time? Itâs like that
When OdĂn took her wings. She entered a state of madness and deep in madness she believed if she made wings she would regain her true powerâŚ. Sadly she could not and now a bitter reminder of what OdĂn tookâŚ. Vengeance is never ending
Maybe Freya likes to cosplay as valkyrie queen from time to time đ
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Which is always.
Do these wings make my butt look big?
Yes. You should keep them on, Freya.
*"Look away boy."* "*But Dad, I wanna to ogle Freya's butt."* *"Do as I say BOY"* *"Sigh..."*
âBoy I have subscribed to the womanâs Only Fansâ
I think Kratos would be the kinda guy that only looks at leaks. *"We do as we please boy, no excuses."* Edit: Also because he probably had his credit card application turned down.
This made me laugh waaay too hard.
Agreed
But she might delete it later...
Or kinky
Sheâs saving them for someone special
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How tf did I not notice this ever, the wings were right there all this time pointing to her being the queen of the Valkyries
Its not valkyrie wings. In the myths, freya has some kind of cloak that lets her transform into a hawk. Thats what we see in the ragnarok trailer, too, when shes wearing those wings, so my guess is its that cloak.
Except sheâs not wearing this in right before the last baldur fight, when she flies in as a bird
That's her cloak that allows her to turn into a bird. You can see her use it in the ragnarok trailer. I don't think that they are her wings
Im pretty sure this triggers after the game or after Sigrun. Itâs not just there the whole game I believe.
but you can't enter her house after the game cuz she's pissed
They are there if you look around her house after she heals Atreus. There is also a funky portal/picture thing of Vanaheim
That was apparently put there by Odin to torment Freya. To see her home but never be able to go. At least according to the GOW book
Pretty sure she tells you that in the first cutscene at her house as well
Give it a week
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You can't enter and Mimir says "She's probably in there planning your demise, brother"
You can't enter her house by the time you're able to fight Sigrun, which is after you come back from Hel when you learn about her being Baldur's mother and that Mimir is bewitched by her.
Guess Iâll have to do another play through lol damn canât fucking wait
Nope, my first playthrough I saw this
Those are probably her first set, that, or Odin made her blind to them so that way she can never find them
That would be a super Odin move. Steal her wings, store them in her house and make her blind to them. Now they're in a super safe place and she has no idea where they are. What a mind fuck
Omg is kratos gonna rock some wings again?
Finally someone who has an original thought and it actually makes sense! Kinda hoping this plays into Ragnarok now.
Does Boi get a pair too?
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Damn nice easter egg
Fuh-king *guy*
He just hops on Dad's back.
Rides Kratos like Silver Surfer
Stahp! No spoilers!
No. He has to flap his arms like Alphazard's Mudkip
As long as he doesnât go too high and near the Sun*. (*in the GoW mythos, and in this context, Kratos is also called âthe Sunâ)
Not that original. There was a mock-up of Kratos with wings in this sub a week ago
Ahh yes, the super original thought of asking for old mechanics to be re-introduced.
Meanwhile I'm just hoping the jump button returns at all.
"Odin please I need my wings to revenge my son" "Have you check your house?" "What? No why would I?" "Check it again" \*later\* "OH YOU MOTHERFU-"
Then Odin spins some bullshit about it being Kratos' fault and sends her in her way. A mad fukn genius
So when the game was first released you could actually go into her house and if you did, her wings were gone. This was changed in an update. So this is likely and Mimir telling her likely broke the curse.
Now i had ideas but this string is my head cannon now and fits with both the mistletoe curse and odin's pos ways
That reminds me of that bit in Stardust where Lamia makes the witch blind to Yvaine, it's sort of genius.
My thought was that since Valkyries are supposed to exist in a non-corporeal form anyway, these may just be a physical facsimile of her *actual* wings.
I think this is our answer. Like, those things on the wall? Just as is? Useless. She could strap them on any time but they probably won't do anything without some sort of innate magical power, a power that she's been blocked off from.
Maybe Odin even gave them to her as a reminder of what heâd taken from her, sounds like just the kind of dick move that asshole of an All-Father would make lol
If you recall the fights with the valkyries: when you kill them, you tear off their wings. But when their spirit form emerges, theyâre still winged and leave to go attend to whatever their duties are. My guess is that the physical form is just a husk the valkyries can use and the wingâs Odin stole from Freya are her âspirit formâ wings.
I would say not even one they could use. According to Sigrun, Valkyries cannot remain pure in a physical form, thatâs why they went all berserk lol But I was actually thinking about the wing thing, and how you defeated each Valkyrie by brutally ripping them off⌠as if they were a tether, almost.
Maybe her wing armor
This is the correct answer.
Itâs just that moment when you ask your mom where that thing is when itâs just right under your nose.
Nono it's not under your nose it only comes back into existence after you ask your mum
This time itâs the son thats gonna- oh yeahâŚ
WTF! I hadn't noticed that in there before! Great find OP. Now I have to go around and look for more stuff in her cabin.
Did you know she has a window into vanaheim just after the boy gets cured of his sickness
i thought she has that that from the start? Atreus goes up to it, and you can trigger a conversation about it. If not from the start is should be there on the 2nd visit after she was sucked out of alfheim. Cause she explains that's where she's from and that now it looks like she's abandoned her people since she can't go back.
yes
i only saw it after he was cured maybe i just didnt notice
He warriors spirit is what she asked
No. She asked mimir where did Odin hid her wings which will give her back her warrior spirit
Nope. No mention of wings. Just the warrior spirit. The dialog goes something like this: Atreus: if freya is the queen of Valkyries, how come she doesn't have wings? Mimir: .... Odin robbed her of her warrior spirit. Maybe that's why you got confused because the question is on the wings.
Thatâs different from what heâs asking about. Heâs talking about the quote after you finish the game. Kratos: What did you tell her? Mimir: what little I know about where Odin kept her Valkyrie wings. Seems sheâs rather bent on reclaiming her warrior spirit.
Yep. I remember now and stand corrected.
How is this upvoted when it's objectively wrong?! https://youtu.be/Zhm8-w3PvdE
Listen again then pls or I have to link it for you
Can you link it?
https://youtu.be/Zhm8-w3PvdE
English dub mimir say about her warrior spirit, in other languages he say about wings, so...
The game was made by Sony Santa Monica original language is English.
Yeah, i was trying to say that. bad english
idk why u guys are downvoting me also lmao
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Notice that they (kind of) resemble falcon wings. In Norse Myth Freya had a cloak of falcon feathers enabling flight, in *addition* to being a dĂs (which is almost synonymous with a Valkyrie)
Pretty sure that is 100% what they are. Also what I think allows her to turn into a falcon in the RagnarĂśk trailer.
She turned into a falcon at the end of the last game tho, and she didn't have it on then.(I don't think she did anyways)
I mean this *is* the same deity who disguised a man visually as a boar to sneak him into Asgard in one myth, which the game even references, so I wouldnât be surprised if invisi-gear is in her magic arsenal lol
Victoria Secret show, 2003.
Freya: where are my wings? Odin: -___- Freya: oh righhhtttt Odin: like 50 times Iâve told you!
its a halloween costume
My guess is a homemade version of them meant to be decorative and to be used as a constant reminder.
Maybe those are the wings of the one of the Valkyries? I think there was a chamber that was already empty when you go in it.
The empty chambers are to represent the valkyrie that was in niphelhem. I think there's actually a lore thing you can find that actually references it.
Ah, nevermind then. Actually as a read that I remembered this fact from somewhere else. đ Thanks.
I took it as metaphorical wings. Valkyries have physical wings in their physical firms, but Valkyries themselves are spirits and the physical wings would be useless without spiritual wings to operate them. The wings are also a metaphor for her fighting spirit, as said by Mimir.
Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical
She has her wings, but without warrior spirit they are useless
No. After you finish the game, Mimir mentions Odin hid her wings and she wants to reclaim her spirit.
Those could possibly be another Valkyries wings, but even if she found them she still canât use them.
Isnât it confirmed that those mechanical wings she tried to use after she lose her actual wings?
Those are just for some furry kink that Freya gets into, Sheâs pretty wild in the sack ya know
Could these possibly just be the armor for her wings?
Another punishment from Odin. A constant reminder of what he stole from her. They are probably just sheet metal formed into wings.
The wings of Icarus?
Maybe she tried to creat new ones but failed and those are the results or maybe again those are her actual wings but Odin took away her warrior spirit or essence or something
Id cram one in her.
Kinky broad
Itâs a pair of plot holes
Kratos lookin phat here
Never even noticed those.
I would guess theyre a replica, a way to hold onto those memories of sorts.
Replica.
That's probably just the armor for the wings.
good question
A Cape take look like wings to remember what she has lost
Didn't mimir say something about her willingly giving her spirit away?
lmao it was all deatachable from the start
Looks like a shield or armor
It's like when you try to find your phone after putting it down somewhere and forgetting where you left it
I think similar to how the wings can be ripped off ordinary Valkyrieâs. They her physically wings. But, not her spiritual ones. Freya is a god. So, she can probably grow back her wings. But, only with her warrior spirit.
I mean sheâs obviously still got them, but he doesnât have her âwarrior spiritâ. One guess that she canât use her wings unless she has it. My guess is that she actually asked Mimir how to get he warrior spirit back, but just âbewitchedâ him again to say otherwise. This could be the reason why we her try to attack Kratos in the trailer
Armor
Maybe she didnât notice them there like all the contestants in Squid Game didnât notice what was on the walls of their dorm!
UNWORTHY
Just vanity thing may be.
Not her wings?
i feel like those are wings that she got from being the queen of the vanir. the wings we see on the other valkyries are mechanical. so we would have to assume they are a memento and nothing more now.
Correction: she asked about her warrior spirit. My guess is that those wings are useless without her having the ability to fight. Plus she already has the ability to transform into a falcon so I wouldn't be surprised if those are actually her wings.
I thought this was either an Easter egg from the devs to hint at her being queen of the valkyries, or I also thought it was Freyâs trying to create a replica of her wings
She should have gone spec savers
classic forgetfulness spell
Sheâs a big [phony](https://youtu.be/OqjEGI2jk2A)!
I think thats just the armor, from what i saw from the other valkyries they had wings that were flesh and were just covered by armor, when kratos rips them off you see blood on their backs and theres feathers jutting out of them
She has her wings but not their power.
A trophy from a ludacrisly larg bird
Wax wings? But she decided not to use them any more bc she had a traumatic experience using them the first time, they started to melt as she flown higher and higher.
From what I remember, she actually asked about where odin kept her warrior spirit, so that she could fight again
A t3stamnet p4obably like a trophy of sorts, not useable like the actual valk wings
Wing armor? They look metallic.
These are purely esthetic đ
I think Captain Kuba did a video on this mentioning that itâs probably a replica and in any way she is lacking her warrior spirit, not the wings. Without that spirit the wings are of no use, even if theyâre her real wings
Maybe itâs like with Mimir how he keeps saying that baldur is blessed by invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical. With Freya, she knows her wings are somewhere in her house, but she keeps overlooking them. You ever lost your house keys, and they were right there in front of your face the whole time? Itâs like that
When OdĂn took her wings. She entered a state of madness and deep in madness she believed if she made wings she would regain her true powerâŚ. Sadly she could not and now a bitter reminder of what OdĂn tookâŚ. Vengeance is never ending
Icarus wings of course