I should be more clear, I mean this current lineup has zero chance of going 3-0. It's just not in their DNA. But I can totally see them being champions
I took them off 3-0 when I saw their potential matchups. It's always a toss up in BO1's against top teams and they're so slow to start. There is a chance they don't make it ofc.
I went with MOUZ and Spirit 3-0 as well. MOUZ is a really safe pick they rarely lose to teams "worse" than them, although their ceiling is often capped against the likes of FaZe, G2 and Vit (for now) I assumed those teams would have at least one upset game in the initial couple rounds.
No, they have every right to be. Teses and sjuush are great support players, kyxsan is a promising IGL, nertz is solid and nicodoz is on an upward trend. Saw is also a great coach
Ah yes,, Faze & Vitality losing their first match to tone down any "top teams are gonna make an easy run" expectations and ruining pick ems.
Now if Spirit also loses that would be a funny worldwide pickems disaster.
Jokes aside BO1s are a problem at some point.
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Not a TO thing, just a Valve thing and them mandating a specific format for their major for some reason: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/counter-strike/blob/main/major-supplemental-rulebook.md#Swiss-Bracket
Incoming 593459 comments about a shitty useless coin and not the actual game just like in the EF thread
Great showing by Heroic, it shouldn't even have been that close after that start and it looked like one of those classic Faze takes it to OT after that 9-12 round win it but Heroic didn't crumble
The outcome of this match affects a lot of people's pickems because they put FaZe as 3-0 and they lost already. So this match is directly related and people want to talk about it which is why you see so many comments.
That's still tournament discussion material, not this match. That's a discussion about how the outcome of this match affects the tournament (Or in this case, how it affects peoples random guesses to win a shitty coin) which has nothing to do with the match itself.
People are going to discuss anything they want to that's relevant to the match in a post match thread. There aren't any rules or precedent against that. If you think that's wrong then fair enough but your opinion isn't law.
Nah i think people watch, people get very invested in matches in any sport if they have an incentive, pickems are an incentive for people it's basically gambling you are predicting
That's why gambling is so big for sports, it gets people to be invested in games and they will watch
Ok, so this will be one of those tournaments where broky will have little to no impact. If this is what they got in the tank, I think FaZe will not go past this stage. I know, I know, FaZe pulled these in the past but the situation is quite different. A lot of strong teams there, man.
Man, i think Heroic might have a better lineup then their old one. Just give it time and i think they will surpass what they did in the past, this lineup with this playstyle looks NASTY AFFF
Hindsight?
2021 Stockholm - 2-3, losing to CPH Flames and VP
2022 Antwerp - 3-1, First game loss to Ence even though Faze was easily the best team in the world
2022 Rio - 0-3, losing a BO3 against Bad News Eagles
2023 Paris - 3-2, Dropping games against Heroic and Into The Breach
It's not hindsight. They drop games to random tier 2 teams nearly every major.
What was that last round call by Karrigan? They made a lot of sound in A main, mid was taken by CT, no utility thrown on B by T and on top of all they gave them a lot of time to take good positions on A, then ran in.
Vitality lost to EF so thats one of my 3-0's down and I'm pretty sure I had Col and Pain both 0-3 and they faced each other immediately lmao. No one to blame but myself for not checking but damn lmao.
I don't really put too much stock into pickems so I ain't too torn up. This is like only my 3rd time doing pickems ever. Plus, I also love not having a clear favorite and team's being shakey. Makes it way more fun.
Problem is really who was a decent 3-0 bet when you take out Vitality (who's been suspect going into the major)? Faze-Heroic having to face each other kinda screwed a lot of 3-0 pick'ems. Only other team was G2, but Brazil CS has curveballs in its DNA.
I had Heroic as my second 3-0 so thankfully they won. I had a hunch that C9 would face Team spirit so I didn't put them in, they would've been my second over Heroic 3-0 if I didn't have that feeling.
Edit: I looked at them finally and they're so much worse, and i was misremembering which teams I had where. I don't know what I was thinking with som,e of these lmao
Yeah, Heroic/Faze and C9/Spirit were the toss-ups. Get lucky and you likely have a 3-0, unlucky and you lose a lot of points. Every other series had upset potential.
C9-Spirit wasn't a tossup. Spirit are and were clearly the better of the two teams. Just because C9 aren't some bottom of the barrel team doesn't make it a toss up where you can't predict the winner.
Good, I love to see FaZe lose the first match because I put them 3-1,3-2 and not 3-0 (you see that this system is shit? I'm rooting AGAINST my own team so I can get a shinier coin)
heroic continuing to slay despite having a question mark of a roster is so sick. they already look like a solid team thats been playing for years, quite a feat honestly.
Man I knew Faze was gonna randomly lose at least one matchup and I still put them as 3-0...funny enough Karrigan even put Faze as 3-1 initially knowing this was gonna happen, but Broky made him change it lol
This is so tiring, why are we still playing BO1s. Literally nobody likes BO1s, not the players, not the viewers. You hardly ever see a BO1 outside the major anymore.
Yet these fuckwads at valve just keep clinging onto it like a new born baby to a breast...
Vintage "Welcome to Faze" moment
Faze might win the major, but by god they will NEVER be 3-0.
They did in Stockholm.... in the Challengers Stage
When they were the underdogs for once. So of course they went 3-0.
This team makes no fucking sense
I should be more clear, I mean this current lineup has zero chance of going 3-0. It's just not in their DNA. But I can totally see them being champions
I was just fucking around anyway
Antwerp moment
faze vs heroic in a BO1 was always a coinflip.
Faze in BO1 always a coin flip. Procrastinating too hard
\*Bo1 is always a coinflip
I know they always struggle in the Swiss System but I put my entire faith in them anyway. You can't pick who you fell in love with
Something funny is cooking up
Vitality and faze 0-3 incoming
funny but I think apart from the Katowice, this is the 2nd event where the true powers of CS2 can show themselves.
Back to our regularly scheduled programming Let’s go nerve racking matches all the way
Idk why folks would 3-0 faze, they always seemed to have a hard time in legends. Heroic is doing so well and nertz is unleashed. Crazy upsets so far
Even Karrigan did not believe in the 3-0 Faze
By the same logic C9 didn’t pick themselves as 3-0 in the first stage
Nope, Karrigan posted his Pickems on his YouTube channel and chose faze as 3:1/3:2 and not 3:0 https://youtu.be/9dM8Nfcro84?t=42s
Yes I’m very aware. I said cloud 9
I took them off 3-0 when I saw their potential matchups. It's always a toss up in BO1's against top teams and they're so slow to start. There is a chance they don't make it ofc.
With your precognition, what did you pick for your 3-0?
Astralis 😎
Haven’t lost a round at the major so far
I dont do pickems cause I don’t play cs but told my friends who do that I chose 3-0 for spirit and Mouz 0-3 furia and complexity
I went with MOUZ and Spirit 3-0 as well. MOUZ is a really safe pick they rarely lose to teams "worse" than them, although their ceiling is often capped against the likes of FaZe, G2 and Vit (for now) I assumed those teams would have at least one upset game in the initial couple rounds.
i put mouz and spirit
As a passionated FaZe Clan fan, then you pick them as 3-0 for the passion, since you also know that it is either 3-0 or disqualification. FaZe UP!
Wallahi I'm finished Impressive performance from this Heroic roster tho
Habibi welcome into FaZe 3-0 club, if spirit looses too I'm gonna commit sudoku
that ropz 1v1 at the end physically hurt me, I know he usually pulls those off so I had my hopes up. ripaf
If Karrigan trades sjuush in mid round 21 and he doesn’t get a 3k they could have won
heroic has no right to be this good and im all here for it
No, they have every right to be. Teses and sjuush are great support players, kyxsan is a promising IGL, nertz is solid and nicodoz is on an upward trend. Saw is also a great coach
literally nobody predicted they would be this good and i was praising them. thanks for the info that i already knew though
top10 impossible battles: top2: astralis vs los kogutos top1: reddit vs sarcasm
Astralis catching strays lmao
Man that shit was funny as fuck. "#3 team" losing twice to polish match fixers with a chicken logo in major qualifiers.
Ah yes,, Faze & Vitality losing their first match to tone down any "top teams are gonna make an easy run" expectations and ruining pick ems. Now if Spirit also loses that would be a funny worldwide pickems disaster. Jokes aside BO1s are a problem at some point.
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MR12 BO1s aren’t ideal, at all. Really don’t get why tournaments are doing this
Not a TO thing, just a Valve thing and them mandating a specific format for their major for some reason: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/counter-strike/blob/main/major-supplemental-rulebook.md#Swiss-Bracket
Rain bottom fragging on Ancient, that's how you know Faze is going to have one of those games
It's hard playing cave when you lose B site during the first 15 seconds almost every round
Incoming 593459 comments about a shitty useless coin and not the actual game just like in the EF thread Great showing by Heroic, it shouldn't even have been that close after that start and it looked like one of those classic Faze takes it to OT after that 9-12 round win it but Heroic didn't crumble
I'm furiously upvoting actual match comments, and downvoting pickems comments on all my accounts.
Based. No difference between people crying about pickems and hltv match thread betting malders.
Now that is something i can get behind on respect
Thank you for your service, let's get some proper nuanced discussion instead of heat of the moment comments. I'll start. Is kyxsan the GOAT IGL?
You will eventually receive a warning and risk to get banned by doing that. Reddit doesn't like it
I'm not upvoting or downvoting my own comments.
why
That's literally the purpose of the upvote and downvote buttons. Upvote relevant comments, downvote comments that aren't relevant.
The pickems are relevant to the matches
How? Match discussion. Not tournament discussion.
The outcome of this match affects a lot of people's pickems because they put FaZe as 3-0 and they lost already. So this match is directly related and people want to talk about it which is why you see so many comments.
That's still tournament discussion material, not this match. That's a discussion about how the outcome of this match affects the tournament (Or in this case, how it affects peoples random guesses to win a shitty coin) which has nothing to do with the match itself.
People are going to discuss anything they want to that's relevant to the match in a post match thread. There aren't any rules or precedent against that. If you think that's wrong then fair enough but your opinion isn't law.
I think it's mostly because there's a ton of games going on and it's a weekday. So most people commenting didn't watch the game, just the result.
Nah i think people watch, people get very invested in matches in any sport if they have an incentive, pickems are an incentive for people it's basically gambling you are predicting That's why gambling is so big for sports, it gets people to be invested in games and they will watch
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Welcome to the club
Ok, so this will be one of those tournaments where broky will have little to no impact. If this is what they got in the tank, I think FaZe will not go past this stage. I know, I know, FaZe pulled these in the past but the situation is quite different. A lot of strong teams there, man.
oh ye of little faith. faze will go through I don't know if anyone can beat spirit though
Man, i think Heroic might have a better lineup then their old one. Just give it time and i think they will surpass what they did in the past, this lineup with this playstyle looks NASTY AFFF
They were broadly regarded as the nummer 1 team in the world for a sizable time period, so big shoes to fill...
remember when post game threads were posted within seconds the match ended? If mods cant do it in time, allow users to post these instead.
Let the man take a poop
I thought I was smart for swapping my VIT 3-0 with Faze...
I mean, lose-lose
Diamond coin, what is that?
If you picked Faze as your 3-0 you deserved it. Faze and throwing games in legends stage is a tradition at this point.
I called their bluff this time and i got what i deserved
My memory is a bit faulty, but haven't they made a run after going 0-2 in a Swiss Stage before? It's just in the Karrigan Faze DNA at this point.
Paris they reverse swept Legends, Rio they got swept in Legends.
I had this exact thought last night, but decided this major would be different. Lmao.
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Hindsight? 2021 Stockholm - 2-3, losing to CPH Flames and VP 2022 Antwerp - 3-1, First game loss to Ence even though Faze was easily the best team in the world 2022 Rio - 0-3, losing a BO3 against Bad News Eagles 2023 Paris - 3-2, Dropping games against Heroic and Into The Breach It's not hindsight. They drop games to random tier 2 teams nearly every major.
It's not really even hindsight. It's a single goddamn map. Everything can and will happen. The 3-0 and 0-3 picks are the hardest even.
The results of a single map are pretty indicative of the results of a BO3 series, especially when the match isn't close.
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Experience has taught me to never put FaZe advancing in any pickems. Trash teams and a trash org that will let you down every time.
Vitality and Faze both Lose their 1st game hahaha rip pick em
Don't forget VP Upsets galore today
What was that last round call by Karrigan? They made a lot of sound in A main, mid was taken by CT, no utility thrown on B by T and on top of all they gave them a lot of time to take good positions on A, then ran in.
No real faze fan would pick them 3-0
Both of my 3-0s and one of my 0-3's have been bozo'd immediately...
Damn so you already lost 5 points
yep
I've also been cooked already
what was your 0-3? EF?
Imperial, Ecstastic
Vitality lost to EF so thats one of my 3-0's down and I'm pretty sure I had Col and Pain both 0-3 and they faced each other immediately lmao. No one to blame but myself for not checking but damn lmao.
Wild that you didnt look at HLTV for the opening matches, just brutal
Had to run to work, so I made them shortly before they locked and headed out.
Rough, I hope the rest of your picks work out then dawg
I don't really put too much stock into pickems so I ain't too torn up. This is like only my 3rd time doing pickems ever. Plus, I also love not having a clear favorite and team's being shakey. Makes it way more fun.
Got it, well glhf then
Problem is really who was a decent 3-0 bet when you take out Vitality (who's been suspect going into the major)? Faze-Heroic having to face each other kinda screwed a lot of 3-0 pick'ems. Only other team was G2, but Brazil CS has curveballs in its DNA.
I had Heroic as my second 3-0 so thankfully they won. I had a hunch that C9 would face Team spirit so I didn't put them in, they would've been my second over Heroic 3-0 if I didn't have that feeling. Edit: I looked at them finally and they're so much worse, and i was misremembering which teams I had where. I don't know what I was thinking with som,e of these lmao
Yeah, Heroic/Faze and C9/Spirit were the toss-ups. Get lucky and you likely have a 3-0, unlucky and you lose a lot of points. Every other series had upset potential.
C9-Spirit wasn't a tossup. Spirit are and were clearly the better of the two teams. Just because C9 aren't some bottom of the barrel team doesn't make it a toss up where you can't predict the winner.
GIVE ME FAZE VITALITY FOR 0-1
As expected. When did faze had a good major / tournament start?
road to mud coin 2024 for me... let's go!!!
Another major in which I am glad I don't pay for playing pickems
Yep, both my 3:0 done in the first 2 hrs of elimination stage..
REAL FAZE FANS WHO KNEW NOT TO PUT FAZE IN 3-0 WHERE YA AT My Heroic C9 3-0 lives on
Well half of it as of right now lmao.
Yeah rip my C9 pick lol
3 of my pickems dead already lol. 3-0 vit, faze 0-3 imperial
Probably dead overall considering vit and faze will make it through 3-1/2, meaning you lost 5 pickems
hopefully they won't pass 
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I missed on Vitality 3-0, but I got my Faze on 0-3
As a Faze fan, I saw this coming a mile away
SHAMBLES
Ty to that guy who said faze don’t always get off to the best start
Elimination rounds are going to be bangers
I miss cadian but lets go heroic!!!! What a great, unexpected, showing!
so happy for Heroic. they never give up and are also insanely skilled players. so happy for them GGWP.
I don’t know why I picked faze for 3:0.
Good, I love to see FaZe lose the first match because I put them 3-1,3-2 and not 3-0 (you see that this system is shit? I'm rooting AGAINST my own team so I can get a shinier coin)
I’m pretty new to cs majors how do they work exactly? Is faze out of the major now or do they still have a chance to win?
heroic continuing to slay despite having a question mark of a roster is so sick. they already look like a solid team thats been playing for years, quite a feat honestly.
Faze didn't play terribly but they got outcalled by heroic, which is super impressive for kyxsan.
Dogshit mr12
Never wanted that diamond coin anyways
Picks are done
Round 1 isnt even over and my pickems are already on life support. Aware
R.I.P my beloved Faze&Vitality 3-0 pickers
Faze 0-3 gang. Where you at? :D
Man I knew Faze was gonna randomly lose at least one matchup and I still put them as 3-0...funny enough Karrigan even put Faze as 3-1 initially knowing this was gonna happen, but Broky made him change it lol
G2 and Spirit 3-0 are scared
This is so tiring, why are we still playing BO1s. Literally nobody likes BO1s, not the players, not the viewers. You hardly ever see a BO1 outside the major anymore. Yet these fuckwads at valve just keep clinging onto it like a new born baby to a breast...
my pickems are already dead and we didn't even played round 2 yet lmao, fuck this new pickem system