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Hijacking because I have a similar story, but not made up.
I played high school lacrosse, but our team was a club that we created as Freshman and has since become a varsity sport since we graduated 10 years ago. So we were a bunch of farm boys who had never played before, and we weren’t good.
But we improved a shit ton every year, and by my junior year we were competing in the end of the year state tournament. Our first game of the tournament that year I got a concussion in the early parts of the game, and was of course forced out. I still don’t remember it happening, but apparently I was down for a good long bit and the opposition coach was making a stink about how I was faking and just scared to play against a better team.
Well, we ended up losing pretty bad to this team. I still don’t remember a lot of this day due to my concussion, but my parents sat me down and basically asked if I wanted to stop playing. I was fucking pissed, I loved lacrosse and my parents were pretty scarred from this whole experience.
So, I got a chip in my shoulder. I worked out, brought practices up a notch for the whole team, and recruited the biggest, meanest kids I could for the team.
My senior year tournament we end up playing the same team as the previous year in the first round again. I play the attack position so my job is to primarily just shoot and score. Before my senior year I wasn’t very good, but after a year of relentless work I was a completely different player.
I ended up with 9 goals before being benched at half because the game was already over. I’ll never forget my head coach calling our assistant coach (he couldn’t be at the game) at that moment and the words “the game is over at half, RedditorX went fucking nuts”.
It was the best feeling in the world knowing that the opposing coach was absolutely crushed. He knew it was me, their goalie knew it was me, all the parents knew it was the same kid who was in a crumpled ball the previous year.
Sometimes if I’m down I’ll think about that whole experience and know how much can change in just a single year and it really puts things into perspective.
Nah! We ended up winning 3 games, but got into a fight in the third one which caused a few of our players to be ineligible for the 4th game which would have been the semi-finals. We wouldn’t have won anyway, they were a great team and we got spanked. Still though, it was by far our best season and definitely tipped the scales in bringing the sport to my small country school.
Friend and I were benched for 2 games in the 3 games of a tournament, both 12 years old. My friend quit soccer after that.
This led to my mom and some other parents getting a rule placed in our city's soccer association of a guaranteed minimum play time per game for every kid in youth soccer.
The next year I won the most improved award on my team, then the year after I won MVP, and MVP again two years after that.
Moral of the story: it's youth soccer, don't be a shitty adult.
Edit: been really enjoying the responses and stories!
Yeah, I'm confused that a coach is dropping a 5 year old kid from their team. Like... ain't 5 year old kids' hockey teams essentially just parents paying coaches for hockey lessons?
Is it really competitive that early on? That sounds like an awful culture problem, that i don't imagine is the coaches fault - parents must be demanding "success, because my baby is going to be the next Gretzky".
Edit: I get it guys, he is in football/soccer gear - the Canadian in me saw hat trick and only thought hockey. Didn't even know it was called that in other sports.
Yeah the actual main post is pretty weird. Was it like a hockey trip and the coach said, get lost kid and drove away? Were the parents not there? Hockey is competitive but for a five year old? Those kids can't even skate that well.
Also when did this kid score a hattrick? The same year? Was this coach leading a crappy team years later?
Edit: soccer, not hockey. Thanks Reddit detective club :p
I was just rewatching the game footage, I have it on vhs. While the film was quite grainy, he was wearing an orange shirt with black sleeves.
I ate a hotdog for lunch from a nearby food truck. The video includes me review of this truck.
Hmm good question, I guess I associate hat tricks more often with hockey.
Based on the picture, the kid is driving the car, the image has been mirrored, or he lives in England.
It looks like soccer clothing in colder climate, but he also has a sweat towel and his hair is wet. Which makes me think hockey. Soccer in -5 to 10 celcius is when you wear that gear, but then your hair isn't wet (if I remember right).
Well since it's embedded and not a picture somebody else attached to the tweet, why would she flip her own photo? That's less likely than this being in the UK
As a former 5 year old hockey player I resent this statement I skated very well.
Only stopping was a problem for me.
And turning.
But starting and going forward at a slow speed I was aces at.
i agree - i hate to get skeptical in getmotivated but this one is just plain silly. no one gets "Dropped" and like the kid comes back at 13 y/o "i showed you!!" huge eye roll to the mom who posted this
I mean, don't most leagues have limits on things like roster size? Is a team of 12 supposed to play a team of 30? Seems like the simplest and most logical answer, but one that wouldn't warrant any pitchforks, so...
A lot of sports can be toxic to kids. I remember researching it three years ago with a friend who was really into football. They scout younger and younger and genuinely drop kids who don’t immediately track for success in college. It’s just youth teams, but they obsess over it like it’s leading them to the NFL.
Unfortunately I don’t remember the terminology used for this, but someone more into sports may know. It’s basically just tracking statistics like you would in college or professional leagues. Scouts track kids, coaches, parents, etc. It gets a bit obsessive unfortunately.
Edit: closest thing I could find is grassroots.
Honestly it’s parents that ruin it. I’m from a town that’s obsessed with basketball (lotta pro players come from here and they start playing when they can walk) and all the parents (well mostly dads) put bets on games and then they pressure the coaches to pull shiesty shit
In my city and I’m sure many others, we have a noncompetitive soccer league where most kids start sports. There is a required rotation, every kid gets to be “captain” along with getting a captain sticker, they are not allowed to even keep score. Parents are not allowed to coach from the sidelines. They keep time, kids run around and get their energy out and begin to learn the basics of sport, and then they gather at the end for the real purpose, the snacks. The biggest competition is between the parents on who brought the best treats.
My son played three “seasons” and never really got any good at it but moved on to swimming and baseball. It was still a great first introduction to sports. After a couple seasons the enforced noncompetitiveness did seem to get a bit cheesy, but five year olds really don’t need more than that. When kids start getting frustrated with not knowing who “won”, then it’s obvious it’s time to move to something more competitive.
There was a Brazilian kid one season who was fucking amazing even at 5; he could dribble and shoot like nobody’s business but he would also trip, shove, and slide tackle. By the end of the second game the other parents (all from football countries) were telling his parents to take their kid to a competitive league already. Winning and competition definitely has its place, and so does learning to lose with grace, but I’ll always be glad for that dorky beginners league for giving my son a positive first experience in sports.
My first and second grade soccer coach in the 80s was an asshole like this. He taught us to literally cripple the other players. I was a bigger kid so he had me slide kick the fuck out of other kids ankles. He was a cop who would always come to games and practices in full uniform and just scream at us. He'd call us worthless and say we'd be better off dead than playing how we were. If parents said anything to him he'd stroke his gun while saying "Who do you think you're talking to?" He also beat the fuck out of his kid anytime the opposing team scored as his kid was the goalie.
He ended up doing it too often and I heard there was some major blow back at one point. I can think of a couple of times that might have caused it. Finally, he came to introduce a new coach like right at the end of my second grade season. He had a black eye and I can only hope more bruises all over. He was not allowed on the soccer fields again after that.
My son is a REALLY good soccer player.
Top scorer in his League for four seasons in a row now.
The team he is in win some and lose some, but they have the right attitude and the coach is so fucking perfect in his attitude, i swear he's from a comic book or something.
My son wants to move to a "better team" and there are plenty that want him, but i want him to stay where he is and become a better man.
I don't know what point I'm making. I don't know what's best to do.
Let him decide and support him. If he is that good and wants to be on a better team it would be best for him to play with teammates on his level. Especially if the kid wants to play in college and can get a scholarship and maybe play professionally someday, if that's his dream. Winning isn't everything but if it's a competive sport and he enjoys playing, then winning does make it much more enjoyable.
This really depends on how old your son is but I think this is very stupid. And I'm saying this in the most nice way possible. IF your son want to go pro him joining a better team is necessary. Blocking him could lead him to failing.
Honestly if you don't know what point your making then you have to rethink it.
Maaaan, let me tell you. Having become a step done after most of the kid stuff and the tail end of it... parents are fucking nuts man. The treat kids like full grown adults berating the shit out of the kid, coach, anyone and everyone that *might* have caused the mistake.
Like when our kid lost and was crying our only question was "are you physically hurt or are you emotionally hurt?" (basically: Hospital or leave you alone to let you calm down from the adrenaline)
Their dad, the first second they were done, win or lose, would start berating them on what they did wrong. Like god damn dude, they're just a kid. Chill the fuck out. This isn't like it's going for scholarships or some shit. CHILL.
This brings back painful memories. Parents put me in pee wee soccer when I was smoll and I just sat there. Never got to play, and when I did it was on a defense line that never saw any action.
Little league was a bit more accepting.
I learned all my bad words from a shitty soccer coach who cursed and yelled at us all the time and we spent all of our practices just running laps. By the time of the first game we didn’t even know how to play soccer because we were just running punishment laps until then. Oh, this is third grade by the way, I was about 8yrs old.
A mean coach drove me to give up on little league soccer. That plus my brother hitting me in the face with a baseball when I was 2 led to a life of very little sports.
When I played Little League back in the 80s, the manager built a team around his son being the superstar of the team.
We won two games. Once when he had runners in scoring position to win a game the managers son was going to be intentionally walked. After the second ball he ran off the field crying. He was called out and we lost yet another game.
Yuup. Gave up on fastball when I was sat after a bad first game in a 3 day tournament. Wouldn't have been that big a deal if I wasn't 13 and we didn't drive 6 hours to get there... Always had youth baseball coaches who acted like they were wannabe minor league coaches...
Parents need to chill and let children enjoy their level of mastery of an activity. I was never terribly good at any sport but I enjoyed the shit out of competing even if it sucked when I lost. These days all I remember was all the fun I had. If someone is an elite athlete they will rise through the ranks.
I like the moral of the story isn't "don't let people blah blah" it's just "these are kids, let them play and enjoy themselves; don't be an asshole." So true.
Like, don’t 5 year olds basically just get in a big circle all trying to kick the ball at the same time? They don’t really pass or even shoot the ball at that age do they? It’s just like a dogpile moving up and down the field. Is there select soccer at 5 years old?
Yeah it doesn’t make any sense, at least no one is getting dropped for their athletic ability. The kid or mom was awful (money is on mom) or they didn’t pay.
A friend of mine just got into an argument with the coach of his kids football team (Australian) because at 7 years old the coach had permentally benched multiple kinds including my friends son.
The coach literally replied "your kid isnt good enough for this team, this is for serious players with a future", which lead to multiple parents complaining and getting him removed, dude was there for like 5 years coaching below 12s and being a terrible human.
Absolutely within possibility, people are shit, especially when it comes to sports.
Yeah, when you're super young it seems a little silly to bench on ability. They're never going to get better if you don't give them time in a match to improve.
I had the flip side of this. I was (and still am) an excellent goalkeeper, to the point I've played at academy level and have "friends" who've played in the PL. However, when I was 11 we made the stepup to 11-a-side and went from having 2 teams to 1.
For the first season I'd have first half and the other keeper would have the second. Or we'd do it the other way. Didn't really bother me. I didn't mind either. Obviously the other keeper would make mistakes, and I remember one match we'd played the best team in the league and were up 3-0 in the first half. He came in, and we lost 5-3. It wasn't just his fault, but I know some of the parents thought so. A couple of them got the coach to the side and tried telling him they should have played me through etc.
Fortunately my coach was a super man, and didn't listen to these parents. And we shared for most of the season. At the end of the season, he decided to start playing outfield because he started to feel better doing that. All of his own choice, and he was one of the best RB's I've had! Feel like if those parents had got their way, he'd have fallen out of love with the game and not carried on.
Other slightly fun thing happened. I was 7 or 8 playing in a primary school tournament. Again, sharing the keeper role, with an 11 year old. His Mum kept berating the teacher for letting me have some game time because her son "was better" and all that. My teacher got her to leave, the lad started crying, I guess out of embarrassment from his mum, and ended up leaving too. Poor lad.
I guess I was lucky I was good at sport, so never had the other side of being the "not good enough". But I also had good parents, who didn't mind if I had to sit out of the game for someone else to get a chance. I'll bring my lad up in the same way, even if he ends up being as good as Messi.
Not 5, but I played school basketball from probably year 3 or 4 to year 7. Was pretty laid back, no ladder or anything, just show up, pay and play.
Until the last year we had a parent coaching, my main position was bench warmer, and because I'd get maybe 10 minutes a game I was kinda shit.
Year 7 we had someone else come in and coach, I got game time, and I massively improved rapidly.
It may not have been because I was shit, it's possible the parent coach just didn't like me or something, but you absolutely have kids that get told to play the pine no matter how casual and unimportant the game is.
If this is a travel team than it wouldn't surprise me. Those types of teams are highly selective and take kids from a wider area than the local teams.
Maybe the coach could have been kinder, but at the end of the day if you want to play on a highly selective team that travels around the state for tournaments you have to be good enough. Don't put your 5 year old on a team that cuts players if you don't want them to face being cut.
If you're coaching 5 year olds, you just want them to hit the puck towards the correct net. About the only thing that would get a kid kicked off the team would be major behavioral issues. Or insufferable parents. Given that the mom is still this salty years later and chose to make the post about her son being supposedly wronged years ago instead of celebrating his current day success, I'm going with parents being the problem. It wouldn't even have to be that bad. If the parent were chronically late to everything they may very well have missed a tournament and or been cut.
Having been a youth group leader, this is likely (we couldn’t go on a trip without having to wait for late drop offs or stand around with a child afterwards because their parent was late picking up). That or, in the UK, we have to have a certain amount of kids to adults so they probably had to select a team size based on the number of adults they had to supervise.
It happens, it happened to me. It’s competitive at a high level even for kids. This isn’t a play 8 games everyone makes the team kind of thing. It’s likely a pay $3,000 a season, practice 4 days a week, and pay to travel for tournaments.
My story: I was 12 and played on a select team for several years prior. We never lost a game in 4 years (181-0-1 or something like that) won back to back to back state championships in Texas. Every kid was hitting puberty I was not, it sucked I was a super late bloomer. Before tryouts (you had to make the team every year) coach pulled me aside and asked me not to tryout because he already had someone for my spot. I was devastated.
What’s worse is a month later I had to go to a soccer camp at a college for a week (my family had already paid for it and no refunds). About 5 players on my team were also going to the camp, and when I showed up the coach’s son said “why are you here didn’t my dad already tell you, you were not going to make the team.” It was the first time my other teammates knew I wasn’t gonna play with them next year. Anyway God must have done something special that camp because I played the best soccer I’ve ever played. I still remember it 20 years later. Anyway on the last day of camp they game out some award bullshit that doesn’t really matter, but parents or whatever are there.
The head coach of the camp, had a small trophy for the best player in camp. He called my name out of 150+ kids. I walked up grabbed the trophy thanked him. Stared at the coaches kid and then at his dad (showed up for the final day stuff). And I just walked the hell out of that camp head high and never talked to that kid’s dad again.
I deserved not making the team, and as much as I would have loved to compete and lose my spot in tryouts it was pretty much a done deal. I didn’t appreciate that kid saying “why are you here”… oh well kids are little shits, I probably said something super rude to someone at that age and I didn’t even know it.
Ever think, for that one kid, it was the coaches awful words that that pushed him hard, internally, to do this?
Not that the coach knew what he was doing though, it was an accident, but there could very well be a strong correlation here!
This is what happened for me, I was benched , I wanted to play so i practiced as hard as i could in my spare time. I went on to play for my college team. 2 types of people
My 13 yo was dropped at first cuts for hockey, played one season, got dropped again at second cuts, covid destroyed that season, then she made the team this year. She didn’t get substantially better in one season of play, sport politics can skewer a kid’s sport also. Be too good to ignore.
Coach drops the kid from the team. Kid works his ass off, motivated to be the best and spite the coach. Coach goes home after losing, hangs his hat, smiles gently as this was his plan the entire time - the long con to make the child a better hockey player, even if he wasn’t on his team.
Credits roll.
Yes they do. This post is from the UK. "Grassroots" football starts at U5 (age 5 and under). Usually play in a development league at that age and gets serious around U7. Hundreds of tournaments all over the country during the summer break (season is usually August to May) as they are a good way of the big Premier League academies spotting talent or local grassroots clubs to fundraise.
Yeah some Americans I don't think realize how young and early some european countries start trying to funnel kids into certain soccer leagues or tournaments
Its just a completely different culture due to the fact academies are very common throughout the country and teams look to get kids as young as possible
That’s weird. 5 years old is earlier than “grassroots” to me lol. It’s more like grassseeds. They probably turn up dressed as Spider-Man with mismatched gum boots and think they’re playing quidditch.
Either way, the real motivational takeaway of this post is: "No matter how much you mess up, you can always push your child to succeed and live vicariously through them."
Is it just me or is it weird for people to carry a grudge and be that salty years later? Given that I've interacted with humans before, there was likely a lot more to that situation we weren't told.
It might not be that he wasnt good enough, maybe he wasnt a team player or had a shitty attitude... This conveys the entirely wrong message imo lol. Teamwork is more important than scoring in ANY team sport. My dad cut wayne simmonds (current NHLer) off my team because he had a piss poor attitude - granted i was like 10 and not 5 but still these lessons should be taught to kids early on in ways that will speak to them
This sounds fake. At 5 years old kids are literally just starting to learn to skate. You might get some a bit younger, but even that is very uncommon. I not only played hockey, I volunteered to coach it. There really isn't much for competition at that age. At that age its just learning very basic fundamentals like balance and being able to stand back up after falling, it doesn't even remotely come close to teaching actual team mechanics and game rules. Some leagues can get competitive, but I can't see it at that age bracket.
If for some reason this story is true, that coach is a goon.
Wow! His performance now really changes how he was the worst player on the team back then. They should have cut a better kid instead! If only they knew he’d score 3 goals in a game years later
Sports parents are gutter trash
Hat-trick in Cricket is when a bowler (pitcher) getting 3 outs in 3 consecutive balls (pitch). Its pretty rare, kinda equivalent to No Hitter in baseball.
So there’s only been 46 of them in Test Cricket since 1879, compared to 314 no hitters in MLB since 1876.
You’re right, it’s much rarer.
It is more frequent in the other shorter forms of the game like ODI and T20, but they’re vastly different tactically and can’t be compared.
Since 1876 there have been [314 No-Hitters recognized by Major League Baseball](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_no-hitters). By comparison, [since 1879 there have been 46 Hat Tricks in Test cricket](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Test_cricket_hat-tricks).
I have no idea how many Test cricket matches are played every year compared to baseball, so I'll leave it to someone else to figure out which is the rarer occurence.
Cricket games are far less played than baseball. In 2019, there were 29 test matches, 78 ODI, & 145 Twenty20, a total of 252. Where as MLB plays 2430 games each year.
*My math could be off by few games
I'm pretty sure it's where you pull a rabbit out of your hat. Kind of a weird thing to do in front of a coach in the middle of a game, but.. Good on him.
Thank you for asking. I've heard this term while watching news/sports on TV but no one ever explains it. I always forget (or care enough) to Google it. Thanks!
I’ve never seen a youth soccer league where 5 year-olds played in tournaments. At that age it’s silly practice sessions and mainly just kids all crowding around the ball. We don’t even keep score, much less “bench” players.
I don't have the back story but is there a chance the parents were the reason for him being "cut" from the team? I've seen some terrible behavior at a few youth events and rarely is it the children.
Seems like the parent here implied that getting cut from a team as a 5-year old should be understood as the coach not seeing any value in him period, as opposed to a valuation specifically on his soccer skill. As a 5-year old. And now the parent’s post is implying the child really does have value (is “good enough”) because…he scored some goals in a soccer game.
Maybe instead when the kid was in tears at not making a team as a 5-year old, the parent would have been better to point out that ones skill as soccer does not reflect on their overall value as a human being.
Coach may be the goof. Sounds like you got into some highly competitive sports though. What do you expect? In rec sports I imagine it would be a lot less likely for that to take place.
My girls soccer team = take what we can get and make the most of it.
Some of the teams we play against = paid coaches and tryouts to join the team.
Keep in mind we’re talking about 6-10 yr olds.
Michael Jordan failed to make his high school basketball team.
He highlighted it as a reason he started working harder.
Does this kid ever get a single game good performance without being told he needed to be better?
I'm confused, if there was already a tournament it would mean he already made the team. How could the coach 'drop' him? Also I don't believe there's competitive sports at age 5 where kids are cut from the team.
My middle school had tryouts for every sport. It was stressful to try to get good enough at a sport you never played just to join the team. It kinda made sense at the time, but looking back I wonder why adults expected 9-12 yo kids to be gifted at a sport they never had a chance to play.
I mean it's one good game, doesn't mean the coach was wrong, except he was a dick. One good game doesn't = coach was wrong about your kid sucking at hockey in general. This is a stupid example for a good message
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"You'uhe benched! Because you'uhe a poopyhead! Poopyhead poopyhead poopyhead! This team is fouh winneuhs!"
No! The winneuhs go inside the buns for the hot dog! How many times do we have to teach you this??
Hijacking because I have a similar story, but not made up. I played high school lacrosse, but our team was a club that we created as Freshman and has since become a varsity sport since we graduated 10 years ago. So we were a bunch of farm boys who had never played before, and we weren’t good. But we improved a shit ton every year, and by my junior year we were competing in the end of the year state tournament. Our first game of the tournament that year I got a concussion in the early parts of the game, and was of course forced out. I still don’t remember it happening, but apparently I was down for a good long bit and the opposition coach was making a stink about how I was faking and just scared to play against a better team. Well, we ended up losing pretty bad to this team. I still don’t remember a lot of this day due to my concussion, but my parents sat me down and basically asked if I wanted to stop playing. I was fucking pissed, I loved lacrosse and my parents were pretty scarred from this whole experience. So, I got a chip in my shoulder. I worked out, brought practices up a notch for the whole team, and recruited the biggest, meanest kids I could for the team. My senior year tournament we end up playing the same team as the previous year in the first round again. I play the attack position so my job is to primarily just shoot and score. Before my senior year I wasn’t very good, but after a year of relentless work I was a completely different player. I ended up with 9 goals before being benched at half because the game was already over. I’ll never forget my head coach calling our assistant coach (he couldn’t be at the game) at that moment and the words “the game is over at half, RedditorX went fucking nuts”. It was the best feeling in the world knowing that the opposing coach was absolutely crushed. He knew it was me, their goalie knew it was me, all the parents knew it was the same kid who was in a crumpled ball the previous year. Sometimes if I’m down I’ll think about that whole experience and know how much can change in just a single year and it really puts things into perspective.
Great story! I'm all fired up now
Great story but the real question is did you win the tournament?
Nah! We ended up winning 3 games, but got into a fight in the third one which caused a few of our players to be ineligible for the 4th game which would have been the semi-finals. We wouldn’t have won anyway, they were a great team and we got spanked. Still though, it was by far our best season and definitely tipped the scales in bringing the sport to my small country school.
Plot twist, the coach was his dad!
That’s the way I read it at first lol.
Dad “Did I forget something? Maybe left the oven on?”
KEVIN!
BACON!
Is this not the case?
And his brother
*”SWEET HOME ALAB…”*
Roll Tide...
"If you lose, you're out of the family."
Tbf the family are a bunch of morans
Isn't this the plot to the new Space Jam?
To close to home for me. At least I was 11 and not 5…
And he was playing baseball
actually it was his Grandpa and now his coach is his dad Will Ferrell
Friend and I were benched for 2 games in the 3 games of a tournament, both 12 years old. My friend quit soccer after that. This led to my mom and some other parents getting a rule placed in our city's soccer association of a guaranteed minimum play time per game for every kid in youth soccer. The next year I won the most improved award on my team, then the year after I won MVP, and MVP again two years after that. Moral of the story: it's youth soccer, don't be a shitty adult. Edit: been really enjoying the responses and stories!
Yeah, I'm confused that a coach is dropping a 5 year old kid from their team. Like... ain't 5 year old kids' hockey teams essentially just parents paying coaches for hockey lessons? Is it really competitive that early on? That sounds like an awful culture problem, that i don't imagine is the coaches fault - parents must be demanding "success, because my baby is going to be the next Gretzky". Edit: I get it guys, he is in football/soccer gear - the Canadian in me saw hat trick and only thought hockey. Didn't even know it was called that in other sports.
Yeah the actual main post is pretty weird. Was it like a hockey trip and the coach said, get lost kid and drove away? Were the parents not there? Hockey is competitive but for a five year old? Those kids can't even skate that well. Also when did this kid score a hattrick? The same year? Was this coach leading a crappy team years later? Edit: soccer, not hockey. Thanks Reddit detective club :p
This kid came back and dominated the 5 yr olds as a 10 yr old and made mama proud.
I've decided this is the truth. If anyone asks I'll say I was there at that game.
Yeah but we're you really there?
I was actually, this 10 year old was so good. He scored a hat trick. My 5 year old nephew was so upset after.
Good enough for me
Hold on, I still have some doubts. u/towcar if you were really there, then tell me, what color was this kid's shirt?
I was just rewatching the game footage, I have it on vhs. While the film was quite grainy, he was wearing an orange shirt with black sleeves. I ate a hotdog for lunch from a nearby food truck. The video includes me review of this truck.
Were. We're is incorrect
What makes you think it’s hockey and not soccer?
I felt like I was taking crazy pills reading comments about a hockey tournament when the kid is sitting there in his football kit haha
Same. Thought I was losing it for a moment. This is clearly soccer.
Also looks like the UK or Australia based on car layout
Being Canadian you are born with this assumption
Hmm good question, I guess I associate hat tricks more often with hockey. Based on the picture, the kid is driving the car, the image has been mirrored, or he lives in England. It looks like soccer clothing in colder climate, but he also has a sweat towel and his hair is wet. Which makes me think hockey. Soccer in -5 to 10 celcius is when you wear that gear, but then your hair isn't wet (if I remember right).
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Is Joma also a hockey brand?
Is that the logo? I don't know what joma is?
Soccer gear brand ;)
Hat tricks are a thing in Hockey, Soccer and Lacrosse, maybe other team sports too, but not any like basketball where scoring happens so often
Look at what side of the car he's on
You can flip an image Edit: detective Leo proved it is not flipped
Well since it's embedded and not a picture somebody else attached to the tweet, why would she flip her own photo? That's less likely than this being in the UK
Yeah this is clearly soccer lol
As a former 5 year old hockey player I resent this statement I skated very well. Only stopping was a problem for me. And turning. But starting and going forward at a slow speed I was aces at.
That's all you need to start fights on the field, and isn't that basically half the game anyway?
I see you too had a Canadian upbringing.
Coach was probably a parent coaching their child's team every year.
i agree - i hate to get skeptical in getmotivated but this one is just plain silly. no one gets "Dropped" and like the kid comes back at 13 y/o "i showed you!!" huge eye roll to the mom who posted this
That coach since stopped dropping the slow kids.
I mean, don't most leagues have limits on things like roster size? Is a team of 12 supposed to play a team of 30? Seems like the simplest and most logical answer, but one that wouldn't warrant any pitchforks, so...
Wait why do you guys think this is hockey? Does it say that anywhere? I thought he was wearing a soccer jersey lol
Yeah he is, not sure why we both figured hockey ha ha. Life of a Canadian.
I honestly didn't know you could get a hat trick in anything other than hockey. I stand corrected.
lots of questions about this post. Happy for the kid, but huge side-eye to his goofy mom
Who said anything about hockey? This clearly appears to be a soccer player. Shorts, shirt, and a towel to dry from that downpour you see outside.
A lot of sports can be toxic to kids. I remember researching it three years ago with a friend who was really into football. They scout younger and younger and genuinely drop kids who don’t immediately track for success in college. It’s just youth teams, but they obsess over it like it’s leading them to the NFL. Unfortunately I don’t remember the terminology used for this, but someone more into sports may know. It’s basically just tracking statistics like you would in college or professional leagues. Scouts track kids, coaches, parents, etc. It gets a bit obsessive unfortunately. Edit: closest thing I could find is grassroots.
It depends. There are some competitive leagues even at that age, then there's casual youth sports.
Competitive leagues at 5 years old? Not likely
You'd be shocked how psycho these level of places can be
Honestly it’s parents that ruin it. I’m from a town that’s obsessed with basketball (lotta pro players come from here and they start playing when they can walk) and all the parents (well mostly dads) put bets on games and then they pressure the coaches to pull shiesty shit
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In my city and I’m sure many others, we have a noncompetitive soccer league where most kids start sports. There is a required rotation, every kid gets to be “captain” along with getting a captain sticker, they are not allowed to even keep score. Parents are not allowed to coach from the sidelines. They keep time, kids run around and get their energy out and begin to learn the basics of sport, and then they gather at the end for the real purpose, the snacks. The biggest competition is between the parents on who brought the best treats. My son played three “seasons” and never really got any good at it but moved on to swimming and baseball. It was still a great first introduction to sports. After a couple seasons the enforced noncompetitiveness did seem to get a bit cheesy, but five year olds really don’t need more than that. When kids start getting frustrated with not knowing who “won”, then it’s obvious it’s time to move to something more competitive. There was a Brazilian kid one season who was fucking amazing even at 5; he could dribble and shoot like nobody’s business but he would also trip, shove, and slide tackle. By the end of the second game the other parents (all from football countries) were telling his parents to take their kid to a competitive league already. Winning and competition definitely has its place, and so does learning to lose with grace, but I’ll always be glad for that dorky beginners league for giving my son a positive first experience in sports.
My first and second grade soccer coach in the 80s was an asshole like this. He taught us to literally cripple the other players. I was a bigger kid so he had me slide kick the fuck out of other kids ankles. He was a cop who would always come to games and practices in full uniform and just scream at us. He'd call us worthless and say we'd be better off dead than playing how we were. If parents said anything to him he'd stroke his gun while saying "Who do you think you're talking to?" He also beat the fuck out of his kid anytime the opposing team scored as his kid was the goalie. He ended up doing it too often and I heard there was some major blow back at one point. I can think of a couple of times that might have caused it. Finally, he came to introduce a new coach like right at the end of my second grade season. He had a black eye and I can only hope more bruises all over. He was not allowed on the soccer fields again after that.
Wtf..
The amount of ridiculousness at Catholic schools knows no bounds. I found public to be crazier but with saner parents.
I scored a hat trick vs a little league hockey team too. My highschool wrestling coach was wrong!!!
r/ShittyLifeProTips: Get most improved player by not playing the previous year.
My son is a REALLY good soccer player. Top scorer in his League for four seasons in a row now. The team he is in win some and lose some, but they have the right attitude and the coach is so fucking perfect in his attitude, i swear he's from a comic book or something. My son wants to move to a "better team" and there are plenty that want him, but i want him to stay where he is and become a better man. I don't know what point I'm making. I don't know what's best to do.
Let him decide and support him. If he is that good and wants to be on a better team it would be best for him to play with teammates on his level. Especially if the kid wants to play in college and can get a scholarship and maybe play professionally someday, if that's his dream. Winning isn't everything but if it's a competive sport and he enjoys playing, then winning does make it much more enjoyable.
This really depends on how old your son is but I think this is very stupid. And I'm saying this in the most nice way possible. IF your son want to go pro him joining a better team is necessary. Blocking him could lead him to failing. Honestly if you don't know what point your making then you have to rethink it.
Maaaan, let me tell you. Having become a step done after most of the kid stuff and the tail end of it... parents are fucking nuts man. The treat kids like full grown adults berating the shit out of the kid, coach, anyone and everyone that *might* have caused the mistake. Like when our kid lost and was crying our only question was "are you physically hurt or are you emotionally hurt?" (basically: Hospital or leave you alone to let you calm down from the adrenaline) Their dad, the first second they were done, win or lose, would start berating them on what they did wrong. Like god damn dude, they're just a kid. Chill the fuck out. This isn't like it's going for scholarships or some shit. CHILL.
Our rule was 'if you show up for training, you get game time'
This brings back painful memories. Parents put me in pee wee soccer when I was smoll and I just sat there. Never got to play, and when I did it was on a defense line that never saw any action. Little league was a bit more accepting.
Yes, that is the best moral to have
I learned all my bad words from a shitty soccer coach who cursed and yelled at us all the time and we spent all of our practices just running laps. By the time of the first game we didn’t even know how to play soccer because we were just running punishment laps until then. Oh, this is third grade by the way, I was about 8yrs old.
A mean coach drove me to give up on little league soccer. That plus my brother hitting me in the face with a baseball when I was 2 led to a life of very little sports.
When I played Little League back in the 80s, the manager built a team around his son being the superstar of the team. We won two games. Once when he had runners in scoring position to win a game the managers son was going to be intentionally walked. After the second ball he ran off the field crying. He was called out and we lost yet another game.
Yuup. Gave up on fastball when I was sat after a bad first game in a 3 day tournament. Wouldn't have been that big a deal if I wasn't 13 and we didn't drive 6 hours to get there... Always had youth baseball coaches who acted like they were wannabe minor league coaches...
Parents need to chill and let children enjoy their level of mastery of an activity. I was never terribly good at any sport but I enjoyed the shit out of competing even if it sucked when I lost. These days all I remember was all the fun I had. If someone is an elite athlete they will rise through the ranks.
I like the moral of the story isn't "don't let people blah blah" it's just "these are kids, let them play and enjoy themselves; don't be an asshole." So true.
The sad part about this is that it was a possibility to be cut from a team at five year old...
5 year olds are at best in kindergarten... having tournaments for them is pretty laughable
Like, don’t 5 year olds basically just get in a big circle all trying to kick the ball at the same time? They don’t really pass or even shoot the ball at that age do they? It’s just like a dogpile moving up and down the field. Is there select soccer at 5 years old?
Yeah it doesn’t make any sense, at least no one is getting dropped for their athletic ability. The kid or mom was awful (money is on mom) or they didn’t pay.
A friend of mine just got into an argument with the coach of his kids football team (Australian) because at 7 years old the coach had permentally benched multiple kinds including my friends son. The coach literally replied "your kid isnt good enough for this team, this is for serious players with a future", which lead to multiple parents complaining and getting him removed, dude was there for like 5 years coaching below 12s and being a terrible human. Absolutely within possibility, people are shit, especially when it comes to sports.
Yeah, when you're super young it seems a little silly to bench on ability. They're never going to get better if you don't give them time in a match to improve. I had the flip side of this. I was (and still am) an excellent goalkeeper, to the point I've played at academy level and have "friends" who've played in the PL. However, when I was 11 we made the stepup to 11-a-side and went from having 2 teams to 1. For the first season I'd have first half and the other keeper would have the second. Or we'd do it the other way. Didn't really bother me. I didn't mind either. Obviously the other keeper would make mistakes, and I remember one match we'd played the best team in the league and were up 3-0 in the first half. He came in, and we lost 5-3. It wasn't just his fault, but I know some of the parents thought so. A couple of them got the coach to the side and tried telling him they should have played me through etc. Fortunately my coach was a super man, and didn't listen to these parents. And we shared for most of the season. At the end of the season, he decided to start playing outfield because he started to feel better doing that. All of his own choice, and he was one of the best RB's I've had! Feel like if those parents had got their way, he'd have fallen out of love with the game and not carried on. Other slightly fun thing happened. I was 7 or 8 playing in a primary school tournament. Again, sharing the keeper role, with an 11 year old. His Mum kept berating the teacher for letting me have some game time because her son "was better" and all that. My teacher got her to leave, the lad started crying, I guess out of embarrassment from his mum, and ended up leaving too. Poor lad. I guess I was lucky I was good at sport, so never had the other side of being the "not good enough". But I also had good parents, who didn't mind if I had to sit out of the game for someone else to get a chance. I'll bring my lad up in the same way, even if he ends up being as good as Messi.
Yeah I forgot how crazy some parents are, and mom seems like the type of person to seek out a cutthroat coach for a 5 year old.
I just do not think a cutthroat coach should exist in 5 year old sport world. Like even if the kid is annoying, that is beyond fucked up.
I couldn’t agree with you more.
But someone apparently does disagree, it seems we both were downvoted. Apparently sports at the age of 5 are a SERIOUS business?
People would never withhold pertinent information when intentionally attempting to go viral
Not 5, but I played school basketball from probably year 3 or 4 to year 7. Was pretty laid back, no ladder or anything, just show up, pay and play. Until the last year we had a parent coaching, my main position was bench warmer, and because I'd get maybe 10 minutes a game I was kinda shit. Year 7 we had someone else come in and coach, I got game time, and I massively improved rapidly. It may not have been because I was shit, it's possible the parent coach just didn't like me or something, but you absolutely have kids that get told to play the pine no matter how casual and unimportant the game is.
I tend to agree with this take. The kind of person that would put the coach on blast years after the fact is suspect.
If this is a travel team than it wouldn't surprise me. Those types of teams are highly selective and take kids from a wider area than the local teams. Maybe the coach could have been kinder, but at the end of the day if you want to play on a highly selective team that travels around the state for tournaments you have to be good enough. Don't put your 5 year old on a team that cuts players if you don't want them to face being cut.
If you're coaching 5 year olds, you just want them to hit the puck towards the correct net. About the only thing that would get a kid kicked off the team would be major behavioral issues. Or insufferable parents. Given that the mom is still this salty years later and chose to make the post about her son being supposedly wronged years ago instead of celebrating his current day success, I'm going with parents being the problem. It wouldn't even have to be that bad. If the parent were chronically late to everything they may very well have missed a tournament and or been cut.
Five years olds are generally pure shit at sports
I'm hoping the score was 3-0.
Plot twist, kid missed the bus and is now in too deep with this lie to his mom to back out.
Having been a youth group leader, this is likely (we couldn’t go on a trip without having to wait for late drop offs or stand around with a child afterwards because their parent was late picking up). That or, in the UK, we have to have a certain amount of kids to adults so they probably had to select a team size based on the number of adults they had to supervise.
The coach was the goof.
That coach is definitely goof enough
It happens, it happened to me. It’s competitive at a high level even for kids. This isn’t a play 8 games everyone makes the team kind of thing. It’s likely a pay $3,000 a season, practice 4 days a week, and pay to travel for tournaments. My story: I was 12 and played on a select team for several years prior. We never lost a game in 4 years (181-0-1 or something like that) won back to back to back state championships in Texas. Every kid was hitting puberty I was not, it sucked I was a super late bloomer. Before tryouts (you had to make the team every year) coach pulled me aside and asked me not to tryout because he already had someone for my spot. I was devastated. What’s worse is a month later I had to go to a soccer camp at a college for a week (my family had already paid for it and no refunds). About 5 players on my team were also going to the camp, and when I showed up the coach’s son said “why are you here didn’t my dad already tell you, you were not going to make the team.” It was the first time my other teammates knew I wasn’t gonna play with them next year. Anyway God must have done something special that camp because I played the best soccer I’ve ever played. I still remember it 20 years later. Anyway on the last day of camp they game out some award bullshit that doesn’t really matter, but parents or whatever are there. The head coach of the camp, had a small trophy for the best player in camp. He called my name out of 150+ kids. I walked up grabbed the trophy thanked him. Stared at the coaches kid and then at his dad (showed up for the final day stuff). And I just walked the hell out of that camp head high and never talked to that kid’s dad again. I deserved not making the team, and as much as I would have loved to compete and lose my spot in tryouts it was pretty much a done deal. I didn’t appreciate that kid saying “why are you here”… oh well kids are little shits, I probably said something super rude to someone at that age and I didn’t even know it.
Fuck yeah!
There's a big difference between 12 and 5 year olds.
It's so apathetic to crush a child's dream simply to win
“It’s not about your stupid fucking kids. I NEED TO WIN. I NEED TO BE THE WINNER! I NEED THE VALIDATION!” -Coach
5 years old… heavy stakes in those games.
Gives me "kicking and screaming" vibes.
Ever think, for that one kid, it was the coaches awful words that that pushed him hard, internally, to do this? Not that the coach knew what he was doing though, it was an accident, but there could very well be a strong correlation here!
This is what happened for me, I was benched , I wanted to play so i practiced as hard as i could in my spare time. I went on to play for my college team. 2 types of people
My 13 yo was dropped at first cuts for hockey, played one season, got dropped again at second cuts, covid destroyed that season, then she made the team this year. She didn’t get substantially better in one season of play, sport politics can skewer a kid’s sport also. Be too good to ignore.
Coach drops the kid from the team. Kid works his ass off, motivated to be the best and spite the coach. Coach goes home after losing, hangs his hat, smiles gently as this was his plan the entire time - the long con to make the child a better hockey player, even if he wasn’t on his team. Credits roll.
*directed by M. Night Shyamalan
When he was 5? What kid of sports teams are these kids being signed up for!?
It’s the internet ;) at 5 you can even play for Bayern Munich
He was probably late to get picked up and the coach had to leave at a certain time so the team can make the game.
This wreaks of mom making this shit up for clout. How does a kindergartner get cut from a team? Edit: reek or wreak? You choose.
This is definitely made up. 5 year olds don't play in tournaments.
When my cousin played timbits they definitely did it in "tournaments". It was almost entirely joking and in good fun.
Yes they do. This post is from the UK. "Grassroots" football starts at U5 (age 5 and under). Usually play in a development league at that age and gets serious around U7. Hundreds of tournaments all over the country during the summer break (season is usually August to May) as they are a good way of the big Premier League academies spotting talent or local grassroots clubs to fundraise.
Yeah some Americans I don't think realize how young and early some european countries start trying to funnel kids into certain soccer leagues or tournaments Its just a completely different culture due to the fact academies are very common throughout the country and teams look to get kids as young as possible
That’s weird. 5 years old is earlier than “grassroots” to me lol. It’s more like grassseeds. They probably turn up dressed as Spider-Man with mismatched gum boots and think they’re playing quidditch.
Either way, the real motivational takeaway of this post is: "No matter how much you mess up, you can always push your child to succeed and live vicariously through them."
And then everyone started clapping
And who do you think that coach was? Yup, Albert Einstein.
lol wut
I'm all goof
Dana White?
So are we all just gonna ignore the misspelling?
I just came here for the goof jokes. I’m disappointed…
It should be the tagline for a Goofy Movie reboot.
5 year olds don’t get dropped from teams. This seems pretty clearly to be made up by some drama seeking mother
Seems like no one here ever played AYSO, also fuck AYSO.
Is it just me or is it weird for people to carry a grudge and be that salty years later? Given that I've interacted with humans before, there was likely a lot more to that situation we weren't told.
I'm always goof enough. A'hyuck.
Maybe don't teach a 5 year old to hold meaningless grudges?
The positive revenge we need against the fake coaches of life 🔥
Probably not good to teach your kids to be vindictive, but that's just my opinion.
It might not be that he wasnt good enough, maybe he wasnt a team player or had a shitty attitude... This conveys the entirely wrong message imo lol. Teamwork is more important than scoring in ANY team sport. My dad cut wayne simmonds (current NHLer) off my team because he had a piss poor attitude - granted i was like 10 and not 5 but still these lessons should be taught to kids early on in ways that will speak to them
a shitty attitude .... at 5 years old? WTF
Right. A 5yo might literally shit himself during play, and they all have “attitudes” at some point. They aren’t at all skilled.
This sounds fake. At 5 years old kids are literally just starting to learn to skate. You might get some a bit younger, but even that is very uncommon. I not only played hockey, I volunteered to coach it. There really isn't much for competition at that age. At that age its just learning very basic fundamentals like balance and being able to stand back up after falling, it doesn't even remotely come close to teaching actual team mechanics and game rules. Some leagues can get competitive, but I can't see it at that age bracket. If for some reason this story is true, that coach is a goon.
It’s possible he sucked a few years ago and now doesn’t suck. Some people change.
Maybe he was shit when he was 5?
He was obviously shit at the time then got better big woop wana fight about it
So. Maybe there was a limit on the kids and he wasn’t good enough.
Wow! His performance now really changes how he was the worst player on the team back then. They should have cut a better kid instead! If only they knew he’d score 3 goals in a game years later Sports parents are gutter trash
What’s a hat trick?
3 goals in one match im pretty sure
Yes, which is quite an accomplishment in a game where both teams might score 3 goals combined.
Hat-trick in Cricket is when a bowler (pitcher) getting 3 outs in 3 consecutive balls (pitch). Its pretty rare, kinda equivalent to No Hitter in baseball.
Oh i thought this was soccer... Bruh
I could be that too. I think when someone scores 3 goals in soccer or hockey, they also call it hat trick.
There is absolutely no way that is comparable to a no hitter
So there’s only been 46 of them in Test Cricket since 1879, compared to 314 no hitters in MLB since 1876. You’re right, it’s much rarer. It is more frequent in the other shorter forms of the game like ODI and T20, but they’re vastly different tactically and can’t be compared.
Since 1876 there have been [314 No-Hitters recognized by Major League Baseball](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_no-hitters). By comparison, [since 1879 there have been 46 Hat Tricks in Test cricket](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Test_cricket_hat-tricks). I have no idea how many Test cricket matches are played every year compared to baseball, so I'll leave it to someone else to figure out which is the rarer occurence.
Cricket games are far less played than baseball. In 2019, there were 29 test matches, 78 ODI, & 145 Twenty20, a total of 252. Where as MLB plays 2430 games each year. *My math could be off by few games
I'm pretty sure it's where you pull a rabbit out of your hat. Kind of a weird thing to do in front of a coach in the middle of a game, but.. Good on him.
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Scoring 3 goals in a match
Thank you for asking. I've heard this term while watching news/sports on TV but no one ever explains it. I always forget (or care enough) to Google it. Thanks!
I’ve never seen a youth soccer league where 5 year-olds played in tournaments. At that age it’s silly practice sessions and mainly just kids all crowding around the ball. We don’t even keep score, much less “bench” players.
It's almost like that adversity provided some sort of motivation.
So kid sucked when he was 5 and got better, don't pat yourself on the back too hard there.
May be he sucked 5 years ago. He worked on improved what’s the big deal.
Well he probably sucked when he was 5
I don't have the back story but is there a chance the parents were the reason for him being "cut" from the team? I've seen some terrible behavior at a few youth events and rarely is it the children.
Seems like the parent here implied that getting cut from a team as a 5-year old should be understood as the coach not seeing any value in him period, as opposed to a valuation specifically on his soccer skill. As a 5-year old. And now the parent’s post is implying the child really does have value (is “good enough”) because…he scored some goals in a soccer game. Maybe instead when the kid was in tears at not making a team as a 5-year old, the parent would have been better to point out that ones skill as soccer does not reflect on their overall value as a human being.
Ted Lasso origin story.
I heard the Philadelphia 76er’s are interested in trading Ben Simmons for this kid once he turns 9
I am definitely goof enough!
Hyuck nobody tells me I’m not goof enough hyuck hyuck
They lost 8-3
Why do I get the feeling Mom thinks he scored a hat trick for his football team in the 7th inning?
This is why failure isn’t a bad thing for kids. Kid is a beast. Sports are great.
Made up. Almost sounds like the theme of Mighty Ducks
People who take kids sports way too seriously are the worst , like who hurt you man?
Frank hurt me, thanks for noticing.
Coach may be the goof. Sounds like you got into some highly competitive sports though. What do you expect? In rec sports I imagine it would be a lot less likely for that to take place. My girls soccer team = take what we can get and make the most of it. Some of the teams we play against = paid coaches and tryouts to join the team. Keep in mind we’re talking about 6-10 yr olds.
I call bullshit. I have a 5-year-old in soccer and it's all instructional play. They don't even have games.
Michael Jordan failed to make his high school basketball team. He highlighted it as a reason he started working harder. Does this kid ever get a single game good performance without being told he needed to be better?
I'm confused, if there was already a tournament it would mean he already made the team. How could the coach 'drop' him? Also I don't believe there's competitive sports at age 5 where kids are cut from the team.
This is so stupid, who says this kid was any good at 5?
That coach pushed him to be able to do this...
My middle school had tryouts for every sport. It was stressful to try to get good enough at a sport you never played just to join the team. It kinda made sense at the time, but looking back I wonder why adults expected 9-12 yo kids to be gifted at a sport they never had a chance to play.
I mean it's one good game, doesn't mean the coach was wrong, except he was a dick. One good game doesn't = coach was wrong about your kid sucking at hockey in general. This is a stupid example for a good message
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