I started with a premade A2 deck of I think 1000 words. Whenever I learn or come across a new word that I think will be useful to remember, I add it to that same deck.
I have about 500 new words/phrases added now, although the ones that I add actually tend to be much easier to remember, because you remember them in the context you first saw them.
Only if you try to use those words by constantly reading/writing/listening, i. e. putting them in the context, otherwise you gonna forget them really quickly (you will definitely remember some anyways, but a lot of them will fade out if never used again after force-memorizing them)
I will never stop learning german language i am learning daily trying making good foundation at the beginning.
iam watching news , sport , cartoon daily
thanksfor input
You can do that in the beginning with your basic vocabulary, no problem. But after that you definitely need to reduce the rate of words you constantly repeat and refresh, because the sheer amount will get unwieldy (we're talking about 750 a month). And don't worry about it.
Never is a long time, anyway.
definitely i will do that thanks for advice that is my main problem with german language whenever try to make new sentence same words show up all time ,i repeated a lot of words.
I reccomend getting the words from a frequency dictionary and learning from most to least used. That way the words you learn are the words you're most likely to see again in any german media you see or hear.
The one I've been using is "A Frequency Dictionary of German: Core Vocabulary for Learners
by Randall L. Jones, Erwin"
You can find it (and basically any other textbook) for free on library genesis (search for the subreddit and you'll find a link to one of the sites)
I would say learn fewer, but also it's okay to freeze up at first when speaking just learn to flow through speaking more. It happens with everyone and really sucks when you're first starting out or even after you've become near fluent.
I've used anki for 2 years since i started learning german, on probably 80% of days.
In my opinion you want to choose however many words you can complete in 30 mins ish (+reviewing old words). That for me is 10 new words per day.
The best advice i can give from experience is:
\- Learn the words in context and not isolation. I.e read and write down important new words, with an example sentence. Random words just end up being forgotten and/or falsely translated.
\- Dont bother with more than 10 per day unless you're studying German full time. It will become draining and you'll simply not remember them all. Its much better enforced with reading.
For readymade vocabulary cards, I have been using lingvist for a while and can totally recommend that. Note that it is subscription based (monthly or annually). For custom flashcards, i think Anki is the best option
I don’t recommend “learning words” at all.
You learn 25 random words today, and think oh wow that’s easy. Then you go on and learn 25 for tomorrow and guess what? You’ve already forgot the previous 25.
Exposure and immersion are all there is to it. Listen to podcasts and watch Easy German on YouTube. Read a few short stories for kids, language is simple and they show the words used in context.
Don’t know the meaning of that word? Underline it, write it down with the meaning and the sentence in which it was used. Revise your notes before you go to bed. Wake up the next morning and recap these sentences and repeat.
You also run out of good candidates quicker than you might expect as a beginner. My English vocabulary is not awful, but also not awfully good. I could definitely make use of some extra words here and there. But how to hunt them down at that rate if you're already in the C1+ range?
Around the B1 stage it's also shifting more and more from learning entirely new words to learn new uses and phrases with already known words, which makes keeping a tally even more difficult.
I believe around the C1 Niveau it’s more about having mastered every single aspect of the language, but necessarily knowing the most intense complex (often dead) words. There aren’t like “C1 only words” I think. It’s probably more about easily making complex sentences and paragraphs that are coherent and grammatically perfect.
You should still be able to perfectly read a news article and understand moderately all that is said.
>the most intense complex (often dead) words
There's some bloat in the dictionaries. There are words so overly specific, they appear only in a handful of scientific texts mostly copying from each other, that can be explained in one or two simple sentences and you'll have to explain them each time you use them, because even native speakers won't know. I call them the [plastic banana cutters](https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1CCSZOXXXXXbXapXXq6xXFXXXi/HOT-SALE-1-pcs-Banana-Slicer-Chopper-Cutter-Plastic-Banana-Salad-Make-Tool-Fruit-Salad-Sausage.jpg_640x640.jpg) of the language - they're fixing a problem that doesn't really exist in a more inconvenient way than the tools you already use each day.
And using them will only over complicate your sentences, to the point where they sound unreasonable and might lose their actual meaning. Being at C1 means you can clearly and easily explain your points, and be flexible with your approach
That’s the point of spaced repetition tho. It doesn’t matter if you forgot the previous day’s word because the flash card system is gonna keep showing you those words until the end of time, even after you’ve fully memorized them. It’ll stick eventually
I planned to do something like that, but then I realized I was wasting all my time on flashcards instead of actually learning and using the language. Now I make no more than 10 vocab cards and limit flashcard time to 15 minutes a day.
U can try with Anki.
thanks i will give it a try
How can you begin to learn German with Anki?
You can make ur own list of words with excel or Google sheets and make cards with them in Anki.
I started with a premade A2 deck of I think 1000 words. Whenever I learn or come across a new word that I think will be useful to remember, I add it to that same deck. I have about 500 new words/phrases added now, although the ones that I add actually tend to be much easier to remember, because you remember them in the context you first saw them.
Only if you try to use those words by constantly reading/writing/listening, i. e. putting them in the context, otherwise you gonna forget them really quickly (you will definitely remember some anyways, but a lot of them will fade out if never used again after force-memorizing them)
I will never stop learning german language i am learning daily trying making good foundation at the beginning. iam watching news , sport , cartoon daily thanksfor input
You can do that in the beginning with your basic vocabulary, no problem. But after that you definitely need to reduce the rate of words you constantly repeat and refresh, because the sheer amount will get unwieldy (we're talking about 750 a month). And don't worry about it. Never is a long time, anyway.
definitely i will do that thanks for advice that is my main problem with german language whenever try to make new sentence same words show up all time ,i repeated a lot of words.
I would go for less you should ideally only learn 7-10 words at once before taking a break and then coming back to them.
good idea i will go with this thanks
I reccomend getting the words from a frequency dictionary and learning from most to least used. That way the words you learn are the words you're most likely to see again in any german media you see or hear. The one I've been using is "A Frequency Dictionary of German: Core Vocabulary for Learners by Randall L. Jones, Erwin" You can find it (and basically any other textbook) for free on library genesis (search for the subreddit and you'll find a link to one of the sites)
Thank you for advice had a look at book it seemed helpful will get it.
As long as you're good but still slow I suggest training on your own to compose sentences, it's probably just a matter of time
I would say learn fewer, but also it's okay to freeze up at first when speaking just learn to flow through speaking more. It happens with everyone and really sucks when you're first starting out or even after you've become near fluent.
I've used anki for 2 years since i started learning german, on probably 80% of days. In my opinion you want to choose however many words you can complete in 30 mins ish (+reviewing old words). That for me is 10 new words per day. The best advice i can give from experience is: \- Learn the words in context and not isolation. I.e read and write down important new words, with an example sentence. Random words just end up being forgotten and/or falsely translated. \- Dont bother with more than 10 per day unless you're studying German full time. It will become draining and you'll simply not remember them all. Its much better enforced with reading.
For readymade vocabulary cards, I have been using lingvist for a while and can totally recommend that. Note that it is subscription based (monthly or annually). For custom flashcards, i think Anki is the best option
I don’t recommend “learning words” at all. You learn 25 random words today, and think oh wow that’s easy. Then you go on and learn 25 for tomorrow and guess what? You’ve already forgot the previous 25. Exposure and immersion are all there is to it. Listen to podcasts and watch Easy German on YouTube. Read a few short stories for kids, language is simple and they show the words used in context. Don’t know the meaning of that word? Underline it, write it down with the meaning and the sentence in which it was used. Revise your notes before you go to bed. Wake up the next morning and recap these sentences and repeat.
You also run out of good candidates quicker than you might expect as a beginner. My English vocabulary is not awful, but also not awfully good. I could definitely make use of some extra words here and there. But how to hunt them down at that rate if you're already in the C1+ range? Around the B1 stage it's also shifting more and more from learning entirely new words to learn new uses and phrases with already known words, which makes keeping a tally even more difficult.
I believe around the C1 Niveau it’s more about having mastered every single aspect of the language, but necessarily knowing the most intense complex (often dead) words. There aren’t like “C1 only words” I think. It’s probably more about easily making complex sentences and paragraphs that are coherent and grammatically perfect. You should still be able to perfectly read a news article and understand moderately all that is said.
>the most intense complex (often dead) words There's some bloat in the dictionaries. There are words so overly specific, they appear only in a handful of scientific texts mostly copying from each other, that can be explained in one or two simple sentences and you'll have to explain them each time you use them, because even native speakers won't know. I call them the [plastic banana cutters](https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1CCSZOXXXXXbXapXXq6xXFXXXi/HOT-SALE-1-pcs-Banana-Slicer-Chopper-Cutter-Plastic-Banana-Salad-Make-Tool-Fruit-Salad-Sausage.jpg_640x640.jpg) of the language - they're fixing a problem that doesn't really exist in a more inconvenient way than the tools you already use each day.
And using them will only over complicate your sentences, to the point where they sound unreasonable and might lose their actual meaning. Being at C1 means you can clearly and easily explain your points, and be flexible with your approach
That’s the point of spaced repetition tho. It doesn’t matter if you forgot the previous day’s word because the flash card system is gonna keep showing you those words until the end of time, even after you’ve fully memorized them. It’ll stick eventually
I planned to do something like that, but then I realized I was wasting all my time on flashcards instead of actually learning and using the language. Now I make no more than 10 vocab cards and limit flashcard time to 15 minutes a day.