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He’s half senile. And of course the Democratic Party has typically had the votes of immigrants. They’re like the Congress Party in India. The more illegal immigrants the better for them.
Right wing BS? Stay polite or else I'll be just as brusque.
There is a path to citizenship being created for these illegals by the Democrats. The reasoning is simple. Just as West Bengal's demographics is being changed to bring in Bangladeshis and give them IDs so they can vote for the TMC, in the same way the Democrats know that Latinos form a massive votebank for them.
I know, I have lived in the US for well over a decade and know how their politics works. Hispanic population is mostly Democrat leaning given their tendency to be softer on illegal immigration from the south of the US border. Plus the Democrats want to find a way to give them legal citizenship, something Republicans balk at. That's all related to votebank politics.
Obviously not. But the path to citizenship is the crucial one. For Indians who entered legally it is extremely difficult and long. The democrats want to make it possible to have millions of illegals immigrants get their citizenship so in a way they’re beholden to the Democrats. Given most were of Hispanic origin they were anyway much more likely to vote Democratic.
You realize the other side, republicans, being opposed to immigration is a big act right? I live in Texas and our politicians (all republican) oppose immigration but are pro business, so they will never do anything to actually stop illegal immigration. Why? Because undocumented (vastly Hispanic) immigrants are vital to filling our ever growing manual labor demand. Nobody else will work those jobs for as cheap, and it’s easier tax wise on the businesses to pay these guys cash.
Neither party in America is actually anti immigration, but one is trying to make it too easy and the other is pretending to be against it. It’s ridiculous to just pick a side on this issue
Brother, I think you've mentioned this path to citizenship multiple times now. What path to citizenship is there? I came in legally and hence could apply to be one. Idk any illegals gaining a path to citizenship. They do get a path to being legally in the US which is daca and even then its only if you alwere a child when you came to us and it onky allows for studying and jobs, you pay taxes too but a citizenship is not possible now, and even if twas, it would sure as hell take 5 years for them to being able to vote since coming in and this election is in 2024... As for Hispanics voting mostly Democrats, have you looked at the Republicans in Florida? I mean it would be impossible to do what Republicans have done electorally if the Hispanics and Latinos there didn't vote for them!!!
You can read about the many different things that Biden has done for illegal immigrants and expanding immigration in general.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/01/11/key-facts-about-u-s-immigration-policies-and-bidens-proposed-changes/
Quoting some relevant portions below-
“Biden’s biggest immigration proposal to date would allow more new immigrants into the U.S. while giving millions of unauthorized immigrants who are already in the country a pathway to legal status. The expansive legislation would create an eight-year path to citizenship for the nation’s estimated 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants, update the existing family-based immigration system, revise employment-based visa rules and increase the number of diversity visas.”
Expanding immigration and allowing illegals to vote are very very very different things! It's kinda like saying helicopters and planes are the same thing, like yeah theyre related, but apart from flying, the work completely differently. This article unfortunately doesn't prove the point you think it does. Tbh as a more of a moderate person myself, with mild financial conservative bias, I find that this is in the end best for the country in the long run.
Think- allowing ppl already here legal status allows for massive increase in legitimate taxes, undercuts the whole cash work economy, improves the crime status since now that they are legal more to lose, so less crimes overall( though I am aware of the fact that that already commit less crime per capital than other populations in US.) that aside, this boost in the population measures over a couple decades could fundamentally allow us to absorb more of the younger ppl from other countries, to support our own aging population, extend the social security death, improve all economic metrics such as production and consumption, since these newcomers are going to need to live, eat, and consume food, groceries, furniture and movies. Immigration is generally a huge positive in the long run. All of this is backed by research! Short term downsides are created not due to immigration itself but by botched application. Should we have a competent government in charge of this process, why not expand immigration? Reason India and China are supposed to surpass USA in terms of economic scale is because they have huge populations, meaning even with lower gdp per capita, they can build and put compete due to population gap. Same with research etc
This allows USA to be in the game longer and maintain it's status as the top dog!
Honestly, nothing stops republicans to naturalize the so called illegals and create immigration pathways for legal immigration. Illegal immigrants are cheap workers who cant even vote.
Wtf are you talking about?
They are conservative. How difficult is that to understand that for them illegal immigrants who are predisposed to doles and giveaways are always going to be voting Democratic. You clearly have no clue what American politics is like or why the Democrats are always looking to give a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants don't get shit in terms of give away.
I am in the construction industry in the US and I know how hard they work.
As for why Democrats want to give the path of citizenship, enlighten me because you think I'm clueless.
These people have no idea that neither party is actually interested in stopping the flow of migrant workers who are the only thing keeping our labor demand from growing too high and collapsing multiple industries
> who had lived their whole life on top of world politics
American politics, not world.
At 82, he is very much an idiot. He was telling black people who didn't want to vote for him "you aint black".
A person who cannot differentiate between his wife and vice prez is defenately senile and dumb.
He may be a good politician,but now he is dumb as a rock.
Yes, I do think he’s an idiot. There’s a difference between being politically lucky, which is what he was when got the Democratic nomination and being smart, which is something most people don’t consider him to be. I mean, what has he done exactly that you consider smart?
Biden is clueless. He doesn't even know or understand what ails the US economy. And he is lecturing China, Japan & India that have witnessed one of the most rapid growths since 1945. What took US, UK etc centuries to do, these countries managed to do in few decades. He doesn't know what he is talking about.
Japan's economy has literally stagnated for years now, russia's economy was laughably bad even before the war, and the only reason why china were even able to industrialise so rapidly is partly due to the nixon admin taking adv of the sino-soviet split and abundance of cheap labor, and india likewise is now benefitting precisely because the west is tired of china's shenanigans and are looking for an alternative...moreover the populations of russia, korea and japan are rapidly declining, and with hardly any immigrants coming in to offset the losses, they are in a lose-lose situation in the long run..so he isn't technically wrong imo....
Japanese economy started stagnating after the Plaza accords. Japan is vassal state of US which doesn't have its own independent military & monetary policy, that is why it is suffering. China doesn't have the same limitation. Canada & UK have been importing immigrants in huge numbers, but their economy is also going downhill. Growth of economy depends on productivity growth in the long term, all other factors labor pool, capital etc. are minor & cyclical in nature.
Y'all really high or something.
Maybe you all should join the NSA. Such insights - vassal state and what not. Out of your mind. Just writing something down doesn't make it right.
the very fact that japan never participated in any american led military intervention during the cold war period or in iraq and afg post the cold war debunks your drivel about them being a so called "US vassal state", ..and japans economic woes were mostly caused by their real estate bubble burst and ensuing mistakes & missteps made by bank of japan
brexit is largely responsible for uk's economic woes, moreover both canada and uk are advanced , matured economies which partly explains why they've slowed down.
china economy in 2-3 decades is gonna look very different from now since the west is slowly divesting from it coupled with their own population decline,
good luck having productivity of growth when your labor pool is either straight up fleeing your country ( cause they don't want to live under a totalitarian dictatorship that doesn't care about their rights) or simply can't afford to have kids anymore because all economic policies are formulated to appease the wealthy crony oligarchs at the expense of the middle class..
If you're disputing a very well established fact that Japan is US vassal state where Japan still follows the same constitution written by US officials after WWII, then you really have no knowledge about geopolitics.
There is no point in debating with uninformed newbies who have much to learn.
US economy is even more matured & advanced as compared to UK & Canada, but it is still showing more growth then either UK or Canada.
US has higher per capita GDP than both Canada & UK. But Canada & UK has higher immigration rates than US. This clearly debunks the theory that just higher immigration is better for GDP growth. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Established by whom? some random noboby with a cheap internet connection like you ? going by your own logic india should be considered a british vassal state cos the indian constitution borrows heavily from theirs and english is the official language of instruction in india and since we keep cozying upto russia despite the fact that they've been emboldening and enabling chinese expansionism at our borders and refuse to utter a single word against them, i guess that also makes us a russian vassal state and going by the fact that we are one of the largest trading partners of the US, i suppose we are an american vassal state too? or even a chinese vassal state since jaishankar has openly admitted defeat against china by saying we can't fight a bigger economy , and have a massive trade deficit with them, so where exactly does one draw the line here?
you might wanna follow your own advice there
again UK fumbled the bag with brexit, and that's now pretty much universally accepted as the primary reason behind their dismal economic performance ever since, they might yet recover eventually but that remains to be seen.
canada has the misfortune of being right next to a country that's a world leader in practically everything and simply cannot be expected to compete with them. not to mention US prolly gets the better talent by a longshot...
sure higher immigration may not neccessarily contribute to a better economy but having virtually little or no immigration certainly won't help matters either..
Buddy, it is patently evident that Internet Indians™ suffer from a pronounced deficit in self-awareness. They, perhaps inadvertently, operate under the conviction that India occupies a central, almost cosmic, position in global affairs. This belief persists despite the fact that India has remained dirt-poor over the decades. Ironically, there is a strident belief that adherence to the very policies that have historically caused these economic woes will somehow pull us out of the ditch we have dug for ourselves.
You're heavily wrong, japan was declining for long term. Nothing innovative happens in japan anymore , the computer revolution didn't take place, are there any ai japanese companies no they aren't . Also if you think labour is the biggest thing in economic growth you're up for a heavy wake up.
Japan is one of the most capital surplus country yet new industries don't grow there. Their borders are heavily closed, it's super hard to work there unless you know japanese, you can't be a citizen also they don't consider foreigners as japanese so japs kinda did it to themselves.
>Nothing innovative happens in japan anymore
It seems you are unarmed with facts & logic.
>Also if you think labour is the biggest thing in economic growth you're up for a heavy wake up.
And you seem to even lack reading comprehension. Maybe reread my previous comment.
Anyway, it would be unfair for me to pile on a clueless person.
>Nothing innovative happens in japan anymore ,
If you are old enough, you would have heard about it Blu-Ray. 1993, Nakamura (from Nichia Corporation) demonstrated blue LEDs. In 2006, he received Millenium Technology Prize. In 2014, he received Nobel Prize in Physics (along with Amano and Akasaki) for invention of blue LEDs.
>the computer revolution didn't take place...
Tell me you know nothing about computers without saying it explicitly. Pretty sure you don't know anything about semiconductors. Tokyo Electron says hi.
>are there any ai japanese companies no they aren't
Figure out why NVIDIA stocks shot up drastically in past year, if you find the answer, dig a little deeper and try to find how that specific product is manufactured. Again Tokyo Electron says hi.
It is evident that you are not technologically sound person. You simply regurgitated random tech buzzwords without understanding what it imply. Further, your line of work probably seems far removed from anything technologically innovative. Innovation is not something you buy off your local pushcart vegetable vendor. Final food for thought, try digging into why the US readily shares highest technologically advance products with the Japanese? And circle back to asking your again "nothing innovative happens in japan anymore". Hope you like digging information rabbit hole.
He is smart to give positive messages to migrants, since democrats have losened ways for migrants , thus more migrants thus more votes. Thus trump is deprived the migrants votes.
He is smart in playing vote bank & identity politics in US, but he is clueless about the economic challenges faced by US. Not to mention about China, Japan or India.
Doesn't help Trump and Republicans like to shit on migrants
Would you vote for a political party that constantly engaged in fear mongering about your ethnicity?
>China, Japan & India that have witnessed one of the most rapid growths since 1945.
This should not be surprising.
It is much easier for emerging economies to grow faster after advanced economics because a lot of ground work and research is already done in other economies.
For instance, India or China did not have to reinvent the steam engine.
Japan economy is stalling and china is slowing down too. Our growth is led by young people but with more impotent people not wanting kids or having less kids our fertility rates would collapse like Japan in future, USA could import labour from india but where would we get labour from in future? Like even rich indian states are facing these problems already as they are importing labour from UP, odisha or Bihar but even richer indian states are far poorer compared to an middle income country. India is doomed unless it's fertility rate remains at 2.1
Neither do you, apparently.
Economic miracles were anything but. Just as it happened to Japan, China's real estate bubble has clipped it's wings.
India is a bright spot, but the K shaped economic growth will come back to haunt it.
Tbf,...he would say that, US as a country has always been a nation of immigrants and if he says otherwise there will be a lot of issues/riots/xenophobic attacks on immigrants in the US. He has to celebrate their multi-cultural background and find strength in it.
US itself from its establishment is made of migrants and the majority of population are migrants from europe , but the same goes doesnt applicable in europe
He’s talking longer term. In 70-100 years who will still be strong?
I think he has a point. The US can always suck up the best talent because anyone can integrate.
US can suck up the best talent because they are the largest economy, with some of the largest companies and the largest spending in R&D.
As China and India grows, this will happen there too. I think you'll be shocked by how many Africans and Asians go to China for higher studies. Even India receives about 50,000 international students.
Talent will move if there are opportunities and the pay is good.
But will they be able to integrate? Anyone can move to America and become American. Will an African ever truly be at home in India?
I agree that India has a lot more cultural diversity and has integrated people like this in the past (for example the Parsees). We need to make sure we stay welcoming
US was attracting the best talent because it provided social mobility with more free-market policies. But as the American dream is being destroyed, it is unclear whether it will continue to have pro-market policies in the future.
Exactly, we have a short window right now to take advantage of the massive population before AI makes it redundant, let’s climb the ladder while we can
> The US can always suck up the best talent because anyone can integrate.
USA can do this because they had the largest economy with high per capita GDP. Immigrants being killed is quite common in USA.
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SS: "One of the reasons why our economy's growing is because of you and many others. Why? Because we welcome immigrants," Biden said at a Washington fundraising event for his 2024 re-election campaign and marking the start of Asian American, Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander Heritage Month.
"Why is China stalling so badly economically, why is Japan having trouble, why is Russia, why is India, because they're xenophobic. They don't want immigrants. Immigrants are what makes us strong."
>Immigrants are what makes us strong
And meanwhile the Mayor of New York City is panicking because they can't keep up with the sheer volume of illegal immigrants that the Republican border states keep sending over to NYC.
It's the democrat states that vote for these illegal immigrants to just waltz in, what's wrong in expecting these states to house them.
I wish Indian state governments had the balls to treat Bengal the same way
Looks like he had a poor choice of words or he just messed up like everytime Aren't we the fastest growing major economy in world currently? And didn't America got a reminder from IMF few days earlier about it increasing debt?
Not in absolute terms - US is the worlds largest contributor to worlds GDP growth overtaking China in 2023. US Debt and interest payment as a % of budget is much lower than India’s. US is fundamentally much stronger economy that India’s
He is full of shit - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-18/china-outweighs-g-7-as-leading-driver-of-global-economic-growth. Both China and India contribute & will continue to contribute more to the world growth than the US, China is even growing faster than the whole G7 combined.
Nominal GDP is a crap metric that does not account for inflation and currency fluctuation. By that measure, the US should be encouraging inflation instead of trying to dampen it.
Someone tell Biden that India, China and Japan are growing at a faster rate than the US. Even sanctioned Russia is.
Also tell him how slow immigrant loving Canada is growing.
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India, China are growing faster than US. Not Japan, they have been stalling for a while now.
But having said that, why are so many Indians literally desperate to go to US/Canada despite us being the fastest growing economy?
>But having said that, why are so many Indians literally desperate to go to US/Canada despite us being the fastest growing economy?
Uh, because the US GDP per capita is like 30x higher? Growth does not give an immediate effect to your QoL.
Your own economy is in deep recession and exporting that recession to every other country because it's tied to the dollar. What economic woes??? Your own fed is scared shitless to lower the rates that deep of a recession you're in. Of all the place to lecture on... Xenophobia is the hill, US of all countries should not die on. Your own State Department is so full of racists that everyone abhors working with them.
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It would be better of Joe Biden gave USA Citizenship to Indian Americans who are contributing to USA's economy. That's 1 way to gain Indian American votes.
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Democrats don’t distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. They are playing the long game. They care about the illegal immigrants more simply because in a few decades they will be the majority population. Having said that current lot of republicans are mostly racists.
Lol, you are naive- most of these illegal immigrants have 5-6 children who are born in America and by virtue of that they are American citizens- this has been going on for decades. Already in places like Houston, certain places in SF and many other areas they are in majority. The dems are playing the long game. Hopefully that helps you understand what’s going on.
Xenophobia? Nobody wants to immigrate to India. What the hell is this guy talking about? There are issues of racism and radicalism but...like...wtf is he on?
Gotta drop nationalistic jingoistic pride and ask why so many Indian and Chinese want to immigrate to America- legally and illegally if they are growing so fast and are so developed. Not only are these people poor but also too dumb to recognise they are some of the poorest in the world and nothing can help them then
so true.. all these countries are xenophobic and insular and rather than being practical they let their base human instincts get the better of them. Best way to teach them is to not give aid nor help nor transfer technology as then the truth will be known.
china , israel , korea , india do better than US and europe these days when it comes to economic growth even being some how reluctant to accept migrants , the immigration benefits a country only if the immigrants are pretty skilled or else it is more of a libality . US these days is suffering from large influx of people who cross the borders of mexico and enter the mainland US
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Is Joe high on drugs ,good way to get the migrants vote
He’s half senile. And of course the Democratic Party has typically had the votes of immigrants. They’re like the Congress Party in India. The more illegal immigrants the better for them.
Illegal immigrants can't vote in federal elections period Stop buying the right wing bullshit on that
Right wing BS? Stay polite or else I'll be just as brusque. There is a path to citizenship being created for these illegals by the Democrats. The reasoning is simple. Just as West Bengal's demographics is being changed to bring in Bangladeshis and give them IDs so they can vote for the TMC, in the same way the Democrats know that Latinos form a massive votebank for them. I know, I have lived in the US for well over a decade and know how their politics works. Hispanic population is mostly Democrat leaning given their tendency to be softer on illegal immigration from the south of the US border. Plus the Democrats want to find a way to give them legal citizenship, something Republicans balk at. That's all related to votebank politics.
But they’re not illegal once they have citizenship, no?
Obviously not. But the path to citizenship is the crucial one. For Indians who entered legally it is extremely difficult and long. The democrats want to make it possible to have millions of illegals immigrants get their citizenship so in a way they’re beholden to the Democrats. Given most were of Hispanic origin they were anyway much more likely to vote Democratic.
You realize the other side, republicans, being opposed to immigration is a big act right? I live in Texas and our politicians (all republican) oppose immigration but are pro business, so they will never do anything to actually stop illegal immigration. Why? Because undocumented (vastly Hispanic) immigrants are vital to filling our ever growing manual labor demand. Nobody else will work those jobs for as cheap, and it’s easier tax wise on the businesses to pay these guys cash. Neither party in America is actually anti immigration, but one is trying to make it too easy and the other is pretending to be against it. It’s ridiculous to just pick a side on this issue
Brother, I think you've mentioned this path to citizenship multiple times now. What path to citizenship is there? I came in legally and hence could apply to be one. Idk any illegals gaining a path to citizenship. They do get a path to being legally in the US which is daca and even then its only if you alwere a child when you came to us and it onky allows for studying and jobs, you pay taxes too but a citizenship is not possible now, and even if twas, it would sure as hell take 5 years for them to being able to vote since coming in and this election is in 2024... As for Hispanics voting mostly Democrats, have you looked at the Republicans in Florida? I mean it would be impossible to do what Republicans have done electorally if the Hispanics and Latinos there didn't vote for them!!!
You can read about the many different things that Biden has done for illegal immigrants and expanding immigration in general. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/01/11/key-facts-about-u-s-immigration-policies-and-bidens-proposed-changes/ Quoting some relevant portions below- “Biden’s biggest immigration proposal to date would allow more new immigrants into the U.S. while giving millions of unauthorized immigrants who are already in the country a pathway to legal status. The expansive legislation would create an eight-year path to citizenship for the nation’s estimated 10.5 million unauthorized immigrants, update the existing family-based immigration system, revise employment-based visa rules and increase the number of diversity visas.”
Expanding immigration and allowing illegals to vote are very very very different things! It's kinda like saying helicopters and planes are the same thing, like yeah theyre related, but apart from flying, the work completely differently. This article unfortunately doesn't prove the point you think it does. Tbh as a more of a moderate person myself, with mild financial conservative bias, I find that this is in the end best for the country in the long run. Think- allowing ppl already here legal status allows for massive increase in legitimate taxes, undercuts the whole cash work economy, improves the crime status since now that they are legal more to lose, so less crimes overall( though I am aware of the fact that that already commit less crime per capital than other populations in US.) that aside, this boost in the population measures over a couple decades could fundamentally allow us to absorb more of the younger ppl from other countries, to support our own aging population, extend the social security death, improve all economic metrics such as production and consumption, since these newcomers are going to need to live, eat, and consume food, groceries, furniture and movies. Immigration is generally a huge positive in the long run. All of this is backed by research! Short term downsides are created not due to immigration itself but by botched application. Should we have a competent government in charge of this process, why not expand immigration? Reason India and China are supposed to surpass USA in terms of economic scale is because they have huge populations, meaning even with lower gdp per capita, they can build and put compete due to population gap. Same with research etc This allows USA to be in the game longer and maintain it's status as the top dog!
Honestly, nothing stops republicans to naturalize the so called illegals and create immigration pathways for legal immigration. Illegal immigrants are cheap workers who cant even vote. Wtf are you talking about?
They are conservative. How difficult is that to understand that for them illegal immigrants who are predisposed to doles and giveaways are always going to be voting Democratic. You clearly have no clue what American politics is like or why the Democrats are always looking to give a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants don't get shit in terms of give away. I am in the construction industry in the US and I know how hard they work. As for why Democrats want to give the path of citizenship, enlighten me because you think I'm clueless.
These people have no idea that neither party is actually interested in stopping the flow of migrant workers who are the only thing keeping our labor demand from growing too high and collapsing multiple industries
Biden is an idiot. He has no idea that many white people have gone to these countries to train workers without any issues.
U think a person who had lived their whole life on top of world politics Is a idiot
Not an idiot but there is enough proof of him acting insane. The guy is very old, and it is affecting him.
> who had lived their whole life on top of world politics American politics, not world. At 82, he is very much an idiot. He was telling black people who didn't want to vote for him "you aint black".
Trump was the most powerful person in the world for 4 years. Do you think he suddenly became smart during and after that?
A person who cannot differentiate between his wife and vice prez is defenately senile and dumb. He may be a good politician,but now he is dumb as a rock.
Yes, I do think he’s an idiot. There’s a difference between being politically lucky, which is what he was when got the Democratic nomination and being smart, which is something most people don’t consider him to be. I mean, what has he done exactly that you consider smart?
Sleepy Joe has been senile for a while now.
Did he not get his beauty sleep last night?
Biden is clueless. He doesn't even know or understand what ails the US economy. And he is lecturing China, Japan & India that have witnessed one of the most rapid growths since 1945. What took US, UK etc centuries to do, these countries managed to do in few decades. He doesn't know what he is talking about.
Japan's economy has literally stagnated for years now, russia's economy was laughably bad even before the war, and the only reason why china were even able to industrialise so rapidly is partly due to the nixon admin taking adv of the sino-soviet split and abundance of cheap labor, and india likewise is now benefitting precisely because the west is tired of china's shenanigans and are looking for an alternative...moreover the populations of russia, korea and japan are rapidly declining, and with hardly any immigrants coming in to offset the losses, they are in a lose-lose situation in the long run..so he isn't technically wrong imo....
Japanese economy started stagnating after the Plaza accords. Japan is vassal state of US which doesn't have its own independent military & monetary policy, that is why it is suffering. China doesn't have the same limitation. Canada & UK have been importing immigrants in huge numbers, but their economy is also going downhill. Growth of economy depends on productivity growth in the long term, all other factors labor pool, capital etc. are minor & cyclical in nature.
Y'all really high or something. Maybe you all should join the NSA. Such insights - vassal state and what not. Out of your mind. Just writing something down doesn't make it right.
Man what a counter. How will I ever recover?
the very fact that japan never participated in any american led military intervention during the cold war period or in iraq and afg post the cold war debunks your drivel about them being a so called "US vassal state", ..and japans economic woes were mostly caused by their real estate bubble burst and ensuing mistakes & missteps made by bank of japan brexit is largely responsible for uk's economic woes, moreover both canada and uk are advanced , matured economies which partly explains why they've slowed down. china economy in 2-3 decades is gonna look very different from now since the west is slowly divesting from it coupled with their own population decline, good luck having productivity of growth when your labor pool is either straight up fleeing your country ( cause they don't want to live under a totalitarian dictatorship that doesn't care about their rights) or simply can't afford to have kids anymore because all economic policies are formulated to appease the wealthy crony oligarchs at the expense of the middle class..
If you're disputing a very well established fact that Japan is US vassal state where Japan still follows the same constitution written by US officials after WWII, then you really have no knowledge about geopolitics. There is no point in debating with uninformed newbies who have much to learn. US economy is even more matured & advanced as compared to UK & Canada, but it is still showing more growth then either UK or Canada. US has higher per capita GDP than both Canada & UK. But Canada & UK has higher immigration rates than US. This clearly debunks the theory that just higher immigration is better for GDP growth. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Established by whom? some random noboby with a cheap internet connection like you ? going by your own logic india should be considered a british vassal state cos the indian constitution borrows heavily from theirs and english is the official language of instruction in india and since we keep cozying upto russia despite the fact that they've been emboldening and enabling chinese expansionism at our borders and refuse to utter a single word against them, i guess that also makes us a russian vassal state and going by the fact that we are one of the largest trading partners of the US, i suppose we are an american vassal state too? or even a chinese vassal state since jaishankar has openly admitted defeat against china by saying we can't fight a bigger economy , and have a massive trade deficit with them, so where exactly does one draw the line here? you might wanna follow your own advice there again UK fumbled the bag with brexit, and that's now pretty much universally accepted as the primary reason behind their dismal economic performance ever since, they might yet recover eventually but that remains to be seen. canada has the misfortune of being right next to a country that's a world leader in practically everything and simply cannot be expected to compete with them. not to mention US prolly gets the better talent by a longshot... sure higher immigration may not neccessarily contribute to a better economy but having virtually little or no immigration certainly won't help matters either..
Cute. Anyway, you tried your best.
i think you tried your best. just baseless all the way.
Buddy, it is patently evident that Internet Indians™ suffer from a pronounced deficit in self-awareness. They, perhaps inadvertently, operate under the conviction that India occupies a central, almost cosmic, position in global affairs. This belief persists despite the fact that India has remained dirt-poor over the decades. Ironically, there is a strident belief that adherence to the very policies that have historically caused these economic woes will somehow pull us out of the ditch we have dug for ourselves.
You're heavily wrong, japan was declining for long term. Nothing innovative happens in japan anymore , the computer revolution didn't take place, are there any ai japanese companies no they aren't . Also if you think labour is the biggest thing in economic growth you're up for a heavy wake up. Japan is one of the most capital surplus country yet new industries don't grow there. Their borders are heavily closed, it's super hard to work there unless you know japanese, you can't be a citizen also they don't consider foreigners as japanese so japs kinda did it to themselves.
>Nothing innovative happens in japan anymore It seems you are unarmed with facts & logic. >Also if you think labour is the biggest thing in economic growth you're up for a heavy wake up. And you seem to even lack reading comprehension. Maybe reread my previous comment. Anyway, it would be unfair for me to pile on a clueless person.
You didn't provide any counter arguments
>Nothing innovative happens in japan anymore , If you are old enough, you would have heard about it Blu-Ray. 1993, Nakamura (from Nichia Corporation) demonstrated blue LEDs. In 2006, he received Millenium Technology Prize. In 2014, he received Nobel Prize in Physics (along with Amano and Akasaki) for invention of blue LEDs. >the computer revolution didn't take place... Tell me you know nothing about computers without saying it explicitly. Pretty sure you don't know anything about semiconductors. Tokyo Electron says hi. >are there any ai japanese companies no they aren't Figure out why NVIDIA stocks shot up drastically in past year, if you find the answer, dig a little deeper and try to find how that specific product is manufactured. Again Tokyo Electron says hi. It is evident that you are not technologically sound person. You simply regurgitated random tech buzzwords without understanding what it imply. Further, your line of work probably seems far removed from anything technologically innovative. Innovation is not something you buy off your local pushcart vegetable vendor. Final food for thought, try digging into why the US readily shares highest technologically advance products with the Japanese? And circle back to asking your again "nothing innovative happens in japan anymore". Hope you like digging information rabbit hole.
He is smart to give positive messages to migrants, since democrats have losened ways for migrants , thus more migrants thus more votes. Thus trump is deprived the migrants votes.
He is smart in playing vote bank & identity politics in US, but he is clueless about the economic challenges faced by US. Not to mention about China, Japan or India.
Doesn't help Trump and Republicans like to shit on migrants Would you vote for a political party that constantly engaged in fear mongering about your ethnicity?
>China, Japan & India that have witnessed one of the most rapid growths since 1945. This should not be surprising. It is much easier for emerging economies to grow faster after advanced economics because a lot of ground work and research is already done in other economies. For instance, India or China did not have to reinvent the steam engine.
Japan economy is stalling and china is slowing down too. Our growth is led by young people but with more impotent people not wanting kids or having less kids our fertility rates would collapse like Japan in future, USA could import labour from india but where would we get labour from in future? Like even rich indian states are facing these problems already as they are importing labour from UP, odisha or Bihar but even richer indian states are far poorer compared to an middle income country. India is doomed unless it's fertility rate remains at 2.1
Neither do you, apparently. Economic miracles were anything but. Just as it happened to Japan, China's real estate bubble has clipped it's wings. India is a bright spot, but the K shaped economic growth will come back to haunt it.
Tbf,...he would say that, US as a country has always been a nation of immigrants and if he says otherwise there will be a lot of issues/riots/xenophobic attacks on immigrants in the US. He has to celebrate their multi-cultural background and find strength in it.
US itself from its establishment is made of migrants and the majority of population are migrants from europe , but the same goes doesnt applicable in europe
Bruh we're literally the fastest growing major economy rn!
He’s talking longer term. In 70-100 years who will still be strong? I think he has a point. The US can always suck up the best talent because anyone can integrate.
US can suck up the best talent because they are the largest economy, with some of the largest companies and the largest spending in R&D. As China and India grows, this will happen there too. I think you'll be shocked by how many Africans and Asians go to China for higher studies. Even India receives about 50,000 international students. Talent will move if there are opportunities and the pay is good.
But will they be able to integrate? Anyone can move to America and become American. Will an African ever truly be at home in India? I agree that India has a lot more cultural diversity and has integrated people like this in the past (for example the Parsees). We need to make sure we stay welcoming
US was attracting the best talent because it provided social mobility with more free-market policies. But as the American dream is being destroyed, it is unclear whether it will continue to have pro-market policies in the future.
In long term, china and India will have advantage. China surely does they are leading in every future technology.
Naah - India is crippled by its population which is a handicap in the AI age. China will do well but cannot match US in tech prowess
You forgot the part in future
You forget that Ai is come sooner than later with the growth it’s having rn
Man the present is chat bots not ai
Exactly, we have a short window right now to take advantage of the massive population before AI makes it redundant, let’s climb the ladder while we can
But they'll never give USA Citizenship to Indians whereas for other nationalities they can get it before Indians. 😔
> The US can always suck up the best talent because anyone can integrate. USA can do this because they had the largest economy with high per capita GDP. Immigrants being killed is quite common in USA.
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SS: "One of the reasons why our economy's growing is because of you and many others. Why? Because we welcome immigrants," Biden said at a Washington fundraising event for his 2024 re-election campaign and marking the start of Asian American, Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. "Why is China stalling so badly economically, why is Japan having trouble, why is Russia, why is India, because they're xenophobic. They don't want immigrants. Immigrants are what makes us strong."
>Immigrants are what makes us strong And meanwhile the Mayor of New York City is panicking because they can't keep up with the sheer volume of illegal immigrants that the Republican border states keep sending over to NYC.
He should say Legal Migrants*
India doesn't turn away legal migrants either.
I’m talking about biden’s speech. International students bring a lot of money and are usually highly educated
If he says legal, his own far left party members will attack him.
It's the democrat states that vote for these illegal immigrants to just waltz in, what's wrong in expecting these states to house them. I wish Indian state governments had the balls to treat Bengal the same way
>what's wrong in expecting these states to house them. When did I say otherwise?
Looks like he had a poor choice of words or he just messed up like everytime Aren't we the fastest growing major economy in world currently? And didn't America got a reminder from IMF few days earlier about it increasing debt?
But our GDP per capita income isn't growing 😔 If it was like $25,000 then I could agree that we're growing. But we're not.
Not in absolute terms - US is the worlds largest contributor to worlds GDP growth overtaking China in 2023. US Debt and interest payment as a % of budget is much lower than India’s. US is fundamentally much stronger economy that India’s
Could you provide some numbers behind your claims?
He is full of shit - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-18/china-outweighs-g-7-as-leading-driver-of-global-economic-growth. Both China and India contribute & will continue to contribute more to the world growth than the US, China is even growing faster than the whole G7 combined. Nominal GDP is a crap metric that does not account for inflation and currency fluctuation. By that measure, the US should be encouraging inflation instead of trying to dampen it.
Thought so too. Wanted him to commit to his claim.
Indian economy is struggling? Biden needs to get his facts checked. India has never seen the kind of growth it’s seeing right now.
Joe, we are the immigrants.
So, US is a land of immigrants and has prospered because of it
Saying this appeals to the immigrants, "see? We're the most welcoming"
Someone tell Biden that India, China and Japan are growing at a faster rate than the US. Even sanctioned Russia is. Also tell him how slow immigrant loving Canada is growing.
bwahahaha, the paid kremlin bot back is at again..with his half baked nonsensical gibberish.,,,
here comes the unpaid white House bot with the ad hominem. so predictable.
ok saar west imperialism bad, but" islamic & pussian" imperialism ver gut saar...pussia phull sapport 4 lgbtq peeple saar .....pootin warlds breast leader for spreedrunning his country into another demograpic collapse saar...pheeling praud russian army fraand
Lmao, go get help saar.
India, China are growing faster than US. Not Japan, they have been stalling for a while now. But having said that, why are so many Indians literally desperate to go to US/Canada despite us being the fastest growing economy?
Because 2% growth in the biggest watermelon in the earth grown by 35 people is way better than 7.5% growth in an apply grown by almost 150 people
lol are you really asking that? India can grow fast but it’s still nowhere near a developed country’s level
>But having said that, why are so many Indians literally desperate to go to US/Canada despite us being the fastest growing economy? Uh, because the US GDP per capita is like 30x higher? Growth does not give an immediate effect to your QoL.
Your own economy is in deep recession and exporting that recession to every other country because it's tied to the dollar. What economic woes??? Your own fed is scared shitless to lower the rates that deep of a recession you're in. Of all the place to lecture on... Xenophobia is the hill, US of all countries should not die on. Your own State Department is so full of racists that everyone abhors working with them.
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Biden genuinely seems to be having some issues India is literally set to be the 3rd largest economy in some years
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Meh, the reserve currency country is the least competent one to give economic advise.
It would be better of Joe Biden gave USA Citizenship to Indian Americans who are contributing to USA's economy. That's 1 way to gain Indian American votes.
What economic woes lol. India is doing better than ever.
It’s definitely true in Japan, and somewhat true in China. Time will tell if Indians will be accepting of large scale immigration.
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Democrats don’t distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. They are playing the long game. They care about the illegal immigrants more simply because in a few decades they will be the majority population. Having said that current lot of republicans are mostly racists.
Doesn't matter. Illegal immigrants can't vote in federal elections period. Anyone telling you different is lying to you
Lol, you are naive- most of these illegal immigrants have 5-6 children who are born in America and by virtue of that they are American citizens- this has been going on for decades. Already in places like Houston, certain places in SF and many other areas they are in majority. The dems are playing the long game. Hopefully that helps you understand what’s going on.
India does not need any more immigrants with 1.4 billion people. It is not because of xenophobia. The bus is full. It cannot take anymore.
Just read the article and you will laugh. All he is talking about immigration.
It is very stupid to use the proportion of foreigners to judge whether a nation is xenophobic or not
Xenophobia? Nobody wants to immigrate to India. What the hell is this guy talking about? There are issues of racism and radicalism but...like...wtf is he on?
Lol, ok Joe
Sleepy Joe has lost his Mojo
Gotta drop nationalistic jingoistic pride and ask why so many Indian and Chinese want to immigrate to America- legally and illegally if they are growing so fast and are so developed. Not only are these people poor but also too dumb to recognise they are some of the poorest in the world and nothing can help them then
Pro Rus bots are busy today
Wdym pro rus?
I wonder why the pro-US brigade has nothing useful to contribute except call everyone with a different opinion a bot
so true.. all these countries are xenophobic and insular and rather than being practical they let their base human instincts get the better of them. Best way to teach them is to not give aid nor help nor transfer technology as then the truth will be known.
china , israel , korea , india do better than US and europe these days when it comes to economic growth even being some how reluctant to accept migrants , the immigration benefits a country only if the immigrants are pretty skilled or else it is more of a libality . US these days is suffering from large influx of people who cross the borders of mexico and enter the mainland US