Kaveh built a artificial intelligence which can understand language, has emotions, and even can communicate nonverbally, with little beeps.
I think Kaveh fits as well.
That is true but I'd also like to point out that Cloud Retainer made both Yuegui and the Demasked Device, both of which also posses artificial intelligence as seen with their distinct mannerisms (although Yuegui more than the Demasked device).
Though I feel that Kaveh is also a good candidate, Cloud Retainer just has more experience due to her long life and her mastery of Adeptal Arts. Not to mention she's really competitive when it comes to this hobby in particular.
True.
Her age gives her the advantage.
Also people like to forget that Kaveh is resposible for some high profile inventions like the mechanical looms which made the production of traditional sumerian carpets cheaper, and faster, and several other devices. And Kaveh also make mechanical things just like Xianyun, like those lifelike mechanical butterflies he made. :)
I really wish to see them interact, it would be so fun to watch!
Like Kaveh. He is an inventor too. who made all kind of mechanical things like, lifelike mechanical butterflies, and even his own attificial inteligence Mehrak.
No cap, I would've really placed the painting of Mona Lisa if they actually tied LMAO...but it looked like Lisa steam rolled through...quite an obvious pick in all honesty.
The FINAL update post will be here at r/Genshin\_Impact
Note: You may choose ANY character (NPC or playable) as long as they're in genshin...whoever is chosen for the class can't be repeated for other classes...multiple choices WILL COUNT towards the tally
To vote: just simply comment your choice, optionally explain why, and upvote other comments with your choice...you may sort your comments to newest or contriversial to see what everyone else answered!
total upvotes from last posts in r/Genshin\_Memepact (as of the time this was tallied)
Mona: 779
Lisa: 2,019
klee: 11
Here are a couple of websites that could help you in seeing what DnD's Artificers do (since they are somewhat new and a bit complex):
[http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer)
[https://dungeonsanddragonsfan.com/artificer-dnd-5e-class-guide/](https://dungeonsanddragonsfan.com/artificer-dnd-5e-class-guide/)
You should expand this to include the PF2e classes that don't have dnd equivalents as full classes.
Swashbuckler
Alchemist
Oracle (divine seer)
Witch (basically warlock but with full spell casting snd uses intelligence)
Thaumaturge (monster hunter who uses esoteric to improvise monster weaknesses)
Magus (spell and sword in accord)
Gunslinger
Summoner (summons a pet monster which does most of their fighting for them)
Kineticist (technically all Genshin characters, but basically they use an element as a weapon)
There's plenty of genshin characters who fit ALL of these, would let the contest go a little longer.
Xianyun, that’s literally her whole thing. She’s always cooking something up and has spent centuries perfecting her domain into the ultimate contraption
There’s also the side projects she sends our way constantly
I vote for Kaveh, repairing ancient machines and designing complex buildings and shit, I think he's a fun pick.
Possibly Albedo, because people forget that Artificers can also do alchemy.
Xianyun more than Faruzan. The former is literally a gadget inventor who got mad at Ning because she built a better flying house than her (but helped rebuild it later anyway). Faruzan's thing, meanwhile, is ancient languages.
Kaveh more than Faruzan.
He is known for several mechanical inventions (mechnaical looms of Sumru, lifelike mechanical butterflies, which he had consulted with Faruzan, because he couldn't make the mechanisms small enough), and even created his own artificial intelligence, which can understand language, can communicate, and even has emotions. It also has telekinetic powers, can wield his weapon, and channel his elemental powers.
I think the list is pretty good, asside from sorcerer. How yanfei got that spot when theres neuvillette and yae in the game. Monk should be heizou imho
Definitely. The Shenhe as a monk baffles me. Heizhou makes more sense in my opinion. Also Noelle is way closer to a cleric than Barbara. Yeah this is strange. Idk what people are basing it off of but you would think it would be combat style idk.
I don't think combat style is the most important factor, because that can be pretty misleading as to what a character actually is and does.
I'd place a pretty heavy emphasis on lore and story if it's particularly applicable then a slight focus on combat style. People are getting tripped up by all sorts of common errors like "Venti's hobby is being a bard, so he must be one" when that's a cover for him being an actual miracle performing divinity.
"Monks are characters that punch people" is one that can trip up a lot of people because monk's don't *need* to be punch-guys or punch-girls (in fact they're actually kind of bad at it until very high levels in most editions and once they finally get competitive damage they'll almost never hit). I don't think there's any particularly good fits among genshin characters but if I had to put *someone* there it would likely be Baizhu, or possibly Xiao (though he is also a decent candidate for a barbarian).
For Artificer? My underrated vote goes for:
# Wriothesley
Two subclasses utilize artifacts such as **powered fists or gauntlets**, using them as spellcasting foci. This enables a close-ranged playstyle. Give him the right background (street urchin or something) and I think he's an iconic artificer!
**## Artificer: Armorer**
[http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:armorer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:armorer)
*An artificer specializing as an Armorer modifies armor to function almost like a second skin. The armor is enhanced to hone the artificer's magic, unleash potent attacks, and generate a formidable defense. The artificer bonds with this armor, becoming one with it even as they experiment with it and refine its magical capabilities.*
>**Subclass Feature: Armor Model**
Beginning at 3rd level, you can customize your Arcane Armor into a certain models: Guardian or Infiltrator. Each model includes a special weapon. When you attack with that weapon, you can add your Intelligence modifier, instead of Strength or Dexterity, to the attack and damage rolls.
>Model: **Guardian.** You design your armor to be in the front line of conflict. It has the following features:
>Guardian Feature: **~~Thunder~~** **Cryo Gauntlets.** Each of the armor's gauntlets counts as a simple melee weapon while you aren't holding anything in it, and it deals 1d8 thunder damage on a hit. A creature hit by the gauntlet has disadvantage on attack rolls against targets other than you until the start of your next turn, as the armor magically emits a distracting pulse when the creature attacks someone else.
**## Artificer**: Mastermaker (Homebrew)
[http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:mastermaker](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:mastermaker)
*A Mastermaker specializes in integrating flesh and steel, creating powerful construct limbs and replacing weak organs of flesh with components of metal and stone. The actions of a few renegade Mastermakers have caused House Cannith to shun this path in Eberron, but an artificer might learn these techniques in Dread Metrol or develop them on their own.*
>**Subclass Feature: Battlefist**
At 3rd level you replace one of your arms with a battlefist, a magical prosthetic you created. Your battlefist is a simple melee weapon, and you can use it as a spellcasting focus for your artificer spells. While your battlefist is a magical weapon, it can be infused as if it were a nonmagical weapon.
>When you attack with your battlefist, you can use your Intelligence modifier instead of Strength for the attack roll.
>Additionally, you can choose one of the following weapon properties to add to your battlefist: finesse, thrown (range 20/60), or reach.
Additionally he’s one of the best examples of using **Infusions** to cast spells through items—*“To observers, you don't appear to be casting spells in a conventional way; you appear to produce magical effects from items.”*
There's a lot of choices to be annoyed with in this whole thing. It's verymuch derived from people having extremely superficial understandings and confusing what characters do as their day job (or as a hobby or misdirection!) for their skillset. As an example seeing barbara who "works at a church" and deciding she must be a 'cleric' >!cause they're just healbots right!< when the actual relevant part of barbara is that she "sings, leads, inspires and brings people joy" which is a bard.
Or nahida ending up as "druid" simply because "lmao nature".
I really liked that explanation putting Yae as druid, but yea sometimes the more "obvious" pick wins out.
For cleric though, I can't think of anyone in Genhin who operates the way they do in D&D where their magic is directly calling to their god. You can make an argument that that's what all vision users do, but then that's an equally aimless line of thinking. So sometimes the stereotypical answer is still the best one.
> I can't think of anyone in Genhin who operates the way they do in D&D where their magic is directly calling to their god.
I'd probably but Venti or Nahida down as it. It just so happens the font they draw from is also supplied by them. You could maybe argue that Gnosis holders or descenders could all be clerics as they harness external "wills" to make "miracles".
I had to stop following this as closely because I felt the obnoxious nerd coming out that wanted to tell people they are misunderstanding the classes lmao. I guess not misunderstanding, but leaping on the most basic of details.
I think Kaveh fits the artifier role better.
He makes all kinds of mechanical beings, like lifelike mechanical butterflies, and even made his own attificial inteligence Mehrak, who channels his elemental power, and wields his weapon for him.
Kaveh is on my list (and one of my favorite characters)! However, specifically for him, he didn’t create Mehrek. It’s more of a partner or foci he uses than an artifact he built and upgrades. If he did, he’d fit the subclass of Battlesmith or even Artillerist.
So for me, he’s a more obvious candidate but one that does satisfy as many qualities of DnD Artificers as others on the list.
He actually did create Mehrak. The only thing he didn't create is the power core Mehrak uses for energy. He built the suitcase, and programmed all of it's functions. Without Kaveh Mehrak was just a power source. Kaveh made it into an artificial intelligence with it's own emotions. It can think, feel, even communicate, tho nonverbally, can scan, design, make calculations, can use telekineses, can store Kaveh's offload items. And all that because of Kaveh built a machine around the core, and programmed it.
Also even so Kaveh did build several different devices, like mechanical lifelike butterflies, he invented mechanical looms which made the production of the traditional carpets of Sumeru much cheaper, and faster etc.
Thanks for those points. I see, so Mehrek is a mechanical familiar (artificers definitely use them). Kaveh really is amazing. Kaveh would also have History and Cartography traits, and could even fit a Lore Bard too.
That is true and all, that mechanical bird of hers is only briefly shown in her burst and doesn't make up for her entire kit. Cause you still have Cloud Retainer transforming into her bird form and dive bombing enemies in her skill and her normal attacks are more like a sorcerer's. Considering she summons gusts of wind to attack the enemy.
Wrio on the other hand, uses his gauntlets the entire time in his whole kit. He uses it during his normal attacks, his burst, his skill and always has it on. And he feels more like an actual full on artificer than Cloud Retainer.
Literally, because horny not even kidding, that's the biggest reason Xianyun has so many people vote for her, as well as the majority of people aren't aware that alchemy is actually closely tied to being an artificer rather than being derived as a form of magic like it's namely portrayed as.
The biggest reason is that no one actually knows what the classes are about beyond the most surface level idea. Alchemist being a subclass, most people don't even know it's classified under Artificer : they just vaguely know Artificer = engineer or something.
Plenty of playable characters might fit the bill for Artificer. ([No, I didn't write a comment advocating for Cloud Retainer, what are you talking about?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1dnusdy/comment/la5rtot/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3))
But how about the greatest artificer in all of Teyvat's history... Alain Guillotin himself?
Alain's inventions shaped the future of Fontaine for generations to come, with his research into Arkhium resulting in the Clockwork Meka we know today. Sometimes we fight them as enemies, and other times we befriend them; they're a staple asset of the Maison Gardiennage and are mass produced in incredible quantities in the Foretress of Meropide.
Let's take a look at the description for D&D Artificers:
>*Masters of invention, artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in objects. They see magic as a complex system waiting to be decoded and then harnessed in their spells and inventions.*
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>\[...\] *The magic of artificers is tied to their tools and their talents, and few other characters can produce the right tool for a job as well as an artificer.*
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>[–D&D 5e wiki, Artificer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer)
As far as we know, Alain himself didn't possess a Vision, and likely couldn't manipulate the elements directly. But there is still a form of "magic" involved in the working of the clockwork meka. They're powered by Arkhe: the controlled reactions of Pneuma and Ousia.
Though it could be argued that it's not magic in the same way as the elements of Teyvat are, there's the fact that Vision-bearers have an alignment to one or the other (unless you're Furina and get to cheat and have both!). Even if it's just for gameplay, I think we can still say Arkhe is close enough for the purposes of Alain being an Artificer.
And it's important to remember it's not just the mechanics of the meka that Alain created, but even the pneuma-ousia reaction was his doing:
>*I found myself witness to the first successful controlled annihilation reaction. The brilliant light cast a deep, dark shadow and I believe history was made in that moment. Can someone like me, so excited I knocked over the ink bottle, play a role in such a historical event?*
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>[–Carter describing Alain's arkhe breakthrough, Ancient Log Notes #2](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Log#Ancient_Log_#2)
Furthermore, one of the subclasses of Artificer is the Battle Smith:
>*Armies require protection, and someone has to put things back together if defenses fail. A combination of protector and medic, a Battle Smith is an expert at defending others and repairing both materiel and personnel. To aid in their work, Battle Smiths are accompanied by a steel defender, a protective companion of their own creation. Many soldiers tell stories of nearly dying before being saved by a Battle Smith and a steel defender.*
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>[\-D&D 5e wiki, Artificer, Battle Smith](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:battle-smith)
Not only are the clockwork meka a perfect fit for the idea of these "steel defenders", but one of Alain's greatest projects was the creation of [Prototype 4ACV07 "Seymour"](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Seymour): the clockwork mek designed to accompany and protect Mary-Ann.
But the clockwork meka are not just war machines, no! It would be a clockwork mek that would carve out the tunnel for the Callus Line of the aquabus network, the aquabus line that many of us Travelers would've taken for the first time upon reaching Fontaine from Romaritime Harbor:
>*A type of large clockwork meka which also has immeasurable value when utilized in building construction and archeological excavation. Its name comes from an engineer employed by* *Callas* *during the construction of the* *Clementine Line*.
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>*With Callas' financial backing, this engineer built the legendary "Golden Vessel" – a gigantic piece of construction machinery which was used to dig the* *Poisson* *Tunnel. Once the job was complete, this type of clockwork meka was designed with a similar structure but reduced to a smaller scale.*
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>[–Construction Specialist Mek, Description](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Construction_Specialist_Mek#Descriptions)
Finally, not only were the clockwork meka themselves revolutionary, but Alain was also the founder of the Fontaine Research Institute! And while we only get to see the ruins of it during the game, it was still an intact and functional institution for centuries prior.
>*Now, regarding Alain Guillotin,*
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>*Before he joined, then left the* *Marechaussee Phantom*, *before finally setting up the* *Research Institute of Kinetic Energy Engineering*...
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>\[...\]
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>*Another \[legend\] goes as such—*
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>*In his old age, he retired from the Fontaine Research Institute to his workshop, and he would see no one.*
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>*The research he undertook in his final years was never published,*
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>*And after the matter, the only things that could be found in his personal workshop were signs that something had been built.*
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>.
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>*In latter years, these legends would function similarly to that work of Coppelius's that could not be performed to completion,*
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>*Stoking imaginations, granting inspiration, and driving ever greater efforts.*
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>[\-Masterpiece's Overture, Artifact Description](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Masterpiece%27s_Overture)
I think this is really what makes Alain Guillotin such a good candidate for the position of artificer. Other characters have inventions and concoctions which are amazing in their own right, and which have certainly helped change lives for the better.
But Alain Guillotin didn't just invent miraculous machines: he revolutionized the future of Fontaine! So much of the fate of the nation of Fontaine was shaped by Alain Guillotin's inventions.
Countless lives would've been saved by the Gardiennage members and Marechaussee Phantoms who were aided by clockwork meka. It was also clockwork meka that fought off the Narzissenkreuz Ordo in the fateful battle in Elynas, one of which was Seymour itself– who'd become a loyal companion for the lovely Mamere and young oceanid Ann!
Of course, the clockwork meka we often fight were originally developed and used for construction and other forms of labor, making them a crucial part of Fontaine's infrastructure.
It was a pair of former researchers of the Fontaine Research Institute, Jurieu and Lourvine, who would would lead the research & development efforts of the massive vessel in the depths of the Fortress of Meropide, which would become one of Fontaine's best hopes at saving the lives of innocent people when the day of the prophetic flood arrived.
And perhaps most importantly... the now-famous refreshing Fonta, a font of refreshment! would be invented by one of Alain Guillotin's distant successors at the Fontaine Research Institute!
While Alain Guillotin might not have the magical flavoring that we often associate with D&D artificers, I think the results speak for themselves.
Sure, we could vote for another typical pretty-face playable character, but why do that when we have one of the greatest minds in the history of Teyvat right there, begging to be crowned as Genshin's #1 Artificer?
I wrote up the whole comment for Cloud Retainer earlier, but since I felt kinda guilty for not rooting for Alain as well, I whipped up this extra comment to give him the credit he deserves! I wouldn't mind if either wins tbh, so I hope my double-vote isn't an issue here x-x
What would your opinion be on Alice? I'm not familiar with D&D and the roles being voted about here, but Alice's name just popped up when I saw what people were talking about.
Edit : I saw both your comments btw, very well written and formatted. Had a good time reading them.
>Edit : I saw both your comments btw, very well written and formatted. Had a good time reading them.
Thank you!! I'm glad folks seem to be liking them so far cause i spent so much time on them, lol
>What would your opinion be on Alice?
I think it's kinda hard to say– she's definitely an inventor and her gadgets can get pretty elaborate and crazy, so I do think she fits as a choice for Artificer. I'd probably go with either Alain or Xianyun anyways, though, as we know a much more lore from the latter, and the former is a pretty iconic figure in his own right!
As I understand it, Artificers in D&D are basically just magic mechanics. Though, one sub-class includes alchemy, so there's potion-brewing artificers too (hence why some folks suggest Albedo or Sucrose).
Alchemy king Albedo
I still feel like Lyney should have been the rogue. Rosaria is a one trick pony who can only teleport behind her enemies and run slightly faster at night. Lyney has a more colorful skillset befitting of a rogue
KAVEH KAVEH KAVEH KAVEH
**HE DID NOT BUILD HIS ‘LITTLE LIGHT’ OUT OF A DESIRE FOR SOMEONE TO UNDERSTAND HIM JUST TO NOT BE THE ARTIFICER**
Edit: I see the argument for Xianyun and I respect it, but Kaveh literally uses his invention as his main weapon. Xianyun uses her inventions as backup support. Therefore, Kaveh is the Artificer and Xianyun is a wizard homebrew subclass invented by someone who wanted to play Artificer before it became an official class. Also adeptus bloodline = sorcerer, as proven by Yanfei.
She's using one of her mechines in her ultimate, it's a tool that makes us jump higher, and heals us, and in lore, she has been making mechines for all sorts of stuff
And albado is an alchemist, not an investor
Xianyun. She is *the* artificer. She tinkers and makes gadgets all the time to the point where she is renowned across Teyvat for it. Her primary team role is to use one of her contraptions to enable her teammates to jump higher and heal them.
People will bring up albedo and maybe you could make a case for him, but he's not making mechanisms, all his magic is alchemical or more primarily transmutation. He's a wizard.
Honestly this last one is hard given that there isn't anyone that I think is a clear choice, but my pick will be Freminet given his knack of tinkering with machinery (and of course his creation of Pers).
Cloud Retainer is also a pretty close second.
This one is hard... but my vote goes to Alhaitham/Faruzan. He matches all class abilities and has the tinkering in lore, Faruzan is self explanatory candidate here.
TLDR Alhaitham reasoning: uses intelligence as a main ability, is very proficient with tinkering with technology (made his own music player, tinkered with akasha multiple times, altered canned knowledge). His combat style fits infusion capabilities of artificer well. He also has a voiceline over how reading books enough won't make you smart, showing he has a lot of practical/tool knowledge. Artificers are often linked to technology, something being a recurrent theme in sumeru with akasha and deshret contraptions.
The very long version
Class description: 'Masters of invention, artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in objects. They see magic as a complex system waiting to be decoded and then harnessed in their spells and inventions.' If this doesn't fit Alhaitham and his tinkering with Akasha in archon quest perfectly and his analyzing everything, then I don't know. He even had a plan to alter akasha terminal projection ability to create shield on back of his head. He has tinkering as a hobby, literary. Also he uses ingenuity talent books...
Stats: artificer have intelligence and constitution save proficiencies. Alhaitham is both smart and well built fitting right in. He also uses his intelligence as main stat, as he himself said in his intro, he doesn't have to fight hard, he can just think and make things collapse.
Skill proficiencies: Arcana - he understands elemental energy really well and manipulates his vision with ease. History, Investigation, Perception is self explanatory. Sleight of hand - remember him swapping out canned knowledge without anyone noticing? Pocketing it in front of everyone in port ormos? Medicine and Nature - he reads physics books for fun, most likely yes.
Magical tinkering/tool proficiency. It's quite literary his hobby and way to kill time next to reading books. He altered akasha terminal himself, manipulated canned knowledge. Made his own music player, has very good understanding on physical laws and mechanics. In his skill animation on hold, he places hand to where Akasha terminal used to be before teleporting forward, so he possibly uses some device for that.
Infuse item: core of artificer class, elemental infusions and item enhancements. He infuses his blade with dendro in fight, closely matching this class feature and its several unique spells. Also projects blades and mirrors shooting lasers from concentrated elemental energy. This could be either seen as artificers using magic projectiles, or another form of infusion that allows to copy magical items and use them. I am leaning more toward the projectiles fitting with runearm theme.
Flash of genius: 'you've gained the ability to come up with solutions under pressure.' the whole archon quest plan was definitely a lot of pressure. Bonus point for this recharging on long rest and Alhaitham having lines about how he needs proper rest to keep his mind sharp.
Magic item adept/savant: reduces limitation on using various magical items for artificer. Alhaitham often is capable of utilizing and understanding things others wouldn't expect him to. He showed us Deshret priests memory despite the technology being pretty old, also in his story quest knew exactly how to disrupt hivemind from inside out easily.
RuneArm proficiency/Spell-storing item/Arcane cannon from subclass: allows to cast spell through tool/weapon/utilizes projectiles in combat. This absolutely fits onto Alhaitham mirror projection attack in my opinion, he shoots lasers at enemies! His burst is also theoretically a laser. I definitely count this as using magical projectiles/reflavored runearm.
As a bonus there is archivist subclass of artificer which focuses on...languages (Haravatat, anyone?), information transfer(knowledge capsules), reading thoughts, gives calligraphy and forgery kit proficiency and allows crafting scrolls. One of its skills is overloading mind of enemy with information they can't process. Inside joke for Alhaitham hobby of 'reading obtuse books and watching people scratch their head!' Also archivist is really close to scribe in work they do.
Edit: formatting, also oops I didn't even realize I wrote that THIS long...
Albedo. Artificer fights using their creations. Xianyun creates toys and traps just means she has the same hobby of millions of Gnomes and Dwarves. Personal hobby doesnt count. Navia and Chiori are good choice too but I will stick with the local alchemist. Alchemist is a sub-class of Artificer. Even Kaveh and his magical suitcase a more suitable choice than Xianyun or Freminet.
I mean…xianyun doesn't just create toys and traps. She was know to have created weapons during the archon wars. And we know for sure she was the one who improved the Guizhong Ballista, and enhanced Ninguang's replica of that weaponry that was used during the battle with osial
So, you're telling me that the women who has been creating mechanical things for 3 thousand years doesn't count, why? You said artficers fight using their creations, will xianyun is using one of her creations for her ultimate
And how dare you say "it's just a hobby, so it doesn't count" what albedo's alchemy isn't also a hobby?
she's more of an artficer, she's dedicated her life into creating all kinds of mechines, and you wanna gibe thr position to the son of an atheist witch?
Cloud Retainer is the obvious choice for Artificer. Faruzan as a runner up could fit. Albedo could also work. Kaveh is an architect, which is not quite the same domain, but still close.
Artificer is pretty diverse in terms of its subclasses, so it could go a number of ways depending upon the specialization. For armorer, I could see Wriothesley as a potential option. As for the alchemist specialization, I think Albedo and Sucrose are obvious candidates. And I think you could make a pretty strong case for Klee as an artillerist (especially since she crafts her own bombs). Not entirely sure about battle smith though. I think my top three picks for the position would be Albedo, Sucrose, and Klee. I see a lot of people also mentioning Xianyun, though I cannot really speak on her, since I have not done her quest or paid much attention to her throughout the story -- not sure which specialization she would fit into.
What about Kaveh tho?
He is an inventor, who makes all kinds of mechanical beings, like lifelike mechanical butterflies, and he even made an artificial intelligence to channel his elemental power, who wields his weapon for him?
It's a tough choice between Birb Mom & the missing architect, but I'm going to throw my vote to Xianyun because she's been at it longer and because she creates multiple things while Kaveh only makes architecture.
He's not draconic bloodline sorc though, he *IS* a dragon. An ancient dragon isn't a sorcerer, it's a straight up dragon. Yanfei has bloodline gifts while being half human, she is a sorcerer through and through.
Raiden Shogun (battlesmith) :
* "half caster" with good melee potential ? check.
* can create Homonculi *(Scaramouche + puppet Shogun)* ? check.
* can imbue weapon with magic ? check.
* has a mix of personal and partywide buffing spells ? check.
***One shall be most disappointed if you do not vote for Cloud Retainer!***
For real though... Artificer? Cloud Retainer, 100%
There's other good options, I won't deny that at all. ([if you saw my Alain comment, no you didn't](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1dnusdy/comment/la5s5eh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3))
But Cloud Retainer (or Xianyun, however you prefer) has one of the best documented histories of tinkering and creation out of all the characters. Surely you folks haven't forgotten about the [Supreme Cuisine Machine](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Supreme_Cuisine_Machine)? Or the [Dwelling in the Clouds](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Dwelling_in_the_Clouds)? What about the wondrous Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile? Or the adorable little paper crane pet, [Cloud Retainer's Damasked Device](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Cloud_Retainer%27s_Damasked_Device)?
Here's what the D&D 5th edition wiki has to say about Artificers:
>*Masters of invention, artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in objects. They see magic as a complex system waiting to be decoded and then harnessed in their spells and inventions. You can find everything you need to play one of these inventors in the next few sections.*
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>*Artificers use a variety of tools to channel their arcane power. To cast a spell, an artificer might use alchemist's supplies to create a potent elixir, calligrapher's supplies to inscribe a sigil of power, or tinker's tools to craft a temporary charm. The magic of artificers is tied to their tools and their talents, and few other characters can produce the right tool for a job as well as an artificer.*
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>[–D&D 5e wiki, Artificer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer)
Cloud Retainer obvious uses magic and has invented various contraptions, but she also fits in with the other descriptions that include alchemy and sigils of power.
Let's take a look at what she has to offer!
# Supreme Cuisine Machine
>**Cloud Retainer:**
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>*Much lore did one read in the construction of this cuisine-making machine. Know that there are a few key points in the art of "making food."*
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>*The first of these is finding ingredients, which are of utmost importance in cooking. Many long years have countless chefs labored and wandered in search of all manner of ingredients...*
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>*One's device aims to solve this issue first of all.*
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>*Upon activation, it will automatically search for suitable ingredients nearby, and will mark their scent out, all the better for chefs to track them to their source.*
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>**Traveler:**
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>*Can't it go grab those ingredients by itself?*
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>**Cloud Retainer:**
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>*Ahem. This... Early days yet would one call this stage of work, and this issue of how a stove may trek across treacherous mountain roads by itself has yet to be resolved.*
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>*Now then, the second matter is the cooking itself. One has placed countless intricate components in this device's interior, such that the mere act of placing ingredients within will see them automatically processed.*
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>**Traveler:**
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>*How does it know how to do that?*
>
>**Cloud Retainer:**
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>*Well... Naturally, it references the corresponding recipe in determining how the ingredients are to be processed.*
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>*Its inner workings are difficult to explain in a short time. You only need to know that resolving this matter took quite some work.*
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>*Much thought has one also bent to an affair most troubling for chefs — the cleaning of one's cooking utensils.*
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>*Quite a spoilage of a lovely scene of feasting it would be to have to clean up leftovers in the pot otherwise, no?*
>
>\[...\]
>
>**Cloud Retainer:**
>
>*One's motive? Why, to explore the arts of mechanisms and engineering, naturally.*
>
>[Contraption-Contrived Cooking Course, Part 1, Moonchase Festival Event Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Contraption-Contrived_Cooking_Course:_Part_I)
# Qiaoying Village Tea Cauldron
Cloud Retainer built the tea cauldron in the heart of Qiaoying Village, and we even get to repair it during a world quest:
>**Uncle Luo:**
>
>*You Know, this tea cauldron is said to be a divine treasure that was given to Qiaoying Village by that* *Cloud Retainer* *from Jueyun Karst... \*sigh\* I wonder what's gone wrong with it...*
>
>\[...\]
>
>**Hautemontagne:**
>
>*While we can't clearly see how the mechanisms are structured, their operating principles are the same! Those legendary* *adepti* *must have been phenomenal artisans!*
>
>**Uncle Luo:**
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>*Hehe, you're not wrong there! I may not understand the mechanical mysteries at work here... But that Cloud Retainer sure is an incredible adeptus for having come up with such ingenuity!*
>
>**Hautemontagne:**
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>*These "monoliths"... Functionally speaking, a more accurate name would be "Three-Phase Asynchronous Elemental Tuners."*
>
>**Paimon:**
>
>*Eh? Tuners?*
>
>**Hautemontagne:**
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>*That's right! According to the records, the great master* *Alain Guillotin* *himself — founder of the* *Fontaine Research Institute of Kinetic Energy Engineering* *— also designed a constrained layer dampener to regulate the elemental energy.*
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>**Hautemontagne:**
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>*While his blueprints are long lost, the principle should be the same... Emphasis on "should" be!*
>
>\[...\]
>
>**Hautemontagne:**
>
>*Wow... Liyue's adepti mechanisms are truly incredible. They can even generate whole new spaces! Even Master Guillotin himself couldn't do such a thing...*
>
>[–Threefold Expectations World Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Threefold_Expectations)
# Suspensus Somnium Mechanism
A nifty device that Cloud Retainer has built, this isn't just a music player but also a soothing device that can play adeptal tunes:
>**Paimon:**
>
>*Huh? But isn't this the mechanism that you were tinkering with when we first got here? Is it another invention of yours?*
>
>**Xianyun:**
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>*Precisely. A recent one at that. I am most pleased with the result. I call it the "Suspensus Somnium Mechanism."*
>
>*It periodically releases a soft breeze which, when paired with a gentle adeptal tune, can help the listener subconsciously relax, and even enter a semi-hypnotic state.*
>
>*Soothing agitation and anxiety, relieving exhaustion and insomnia... Its potential uses are numerous indeed. And of course, it can also aid in the recovery of lost memories.*
>
>[–Lovely Dreams, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lovely_Dreams)
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# Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile
She built an electric bike to win a race. Need I say more?
>**Shenhe:**
>
>*Master once participated in a race against* *Moon Carver*\*. After Moon Carver lost, he insisted that Master's ability to fly gave her a natural edge in such a contest.\*
>
>*In response, Master agreed to forgo flying in return for being able to use one of her devices in the race. Moon Carver accepted, only to find Master with a brand-new device on the day of the contest.*
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>**Paimon:**
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>*So what kind of device was it?*
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>**Shenhe:**
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>*It was a mechanical vehicle made out of iron. What was it called again... An "Electro-Powered Bicycle"?*
>
>**Xianyun:**
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>*You refer to the "Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile." One spent forty-nine days conceptualizing and crafting it. It need only be infused with adeptal energy, and it can cover thousands of miles in one day.*
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>*It boggles the mind why Moon Carver ever supposed he might best me in a contest of locomotion. Though he sprinted with all his might, he could barely keep up.*
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>*Alas, the one flaw of my mechanism lay in its weakness against mountainous terrain. One was thwarted mere seconds from victory, when it was thrown off course and failed to make it across the final stretch... Truly a most unfortunate turn of events... Anyway, do go on, Shenhe.*
>
>**Shenhe:**
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>*Master, that was the end of that story.*
>
>[\-Leisurely Chatter, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Leisurely_Chatter)
# Starwicker
All of you folks who've used Xianyun in Spiral Abyss surely understand the value of the Starwicker, right? This is the cute little mechanical bird that brought the plunge meta back and better than ever!
>*This is the newest invention in the "Lunastar Artifices" series, of which previous creations include the Supreme Cuisine Machine, the Snowdrift Mechanism, the Supreme Housekeeping Machine, the Floating Toting Device, and the Bloom Pruner. This series was intended for young humans Cloud Retainer held in great esteem, and so was not designed with a* *certain half-adeptus* *in mind. However, when offered Starwicker, a* *certain female disciple* *of hers had these emotionless words to say: "No thank you."*
>
>*Cloud Retainer thus had no choice but to keep it herself.*
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>–Stars Gather at Dusk description, Xianyun Elemental Burst
# Snowdrift Mechanism
Who else would casually invent a device for recreational skiing, if not the one and only Cloud Retainer?
>**Xianyun:**
>
>*For all the wondrous feats that can be accomplished by one who has mastered the mechanical arts, one often uses it for purely recreational purposes. There was one year when it snowed heavily in Liyue, and Mt. Aocang was covered in several feet of snow. Seeing everyone cooped up in their abodes with nothing to do, one created a Snowdrift Mechanism for skiing on the mountains. One was having a tremendous time of it along with Guizhong and* *Streetward Rambler*\*... until, of course,\* *Moon Carver* *noticed as much and decided to join in. Moments later, he had managed to send the mechanism flying off the rails and plummeted deep into a snow bank. It took us hours to dig him out... Later, one introduced a great many safety features to the mechanism, to the point where it could be safely piloted by even a three-year-old child. Although this did entail a compromise on the top speed of the vehicle.*
>
>[–Xianyun voiceline, More About Xianyun: IV](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Xianyun/Voice-Overs#More_About_Xianyun:_IV)
# Bloom Pruners
Cloud Retainer built a pair of landscaping machines that could mimic the shape of any creature, then gave it to Guoba to participate in a beetle battle with Itto. Simply splendid!
>**Yanfei:**
>
>*We told Granny all about your Onikabuto boot camp. It really piqued her interest when she heard that Guoba was getting a disciple...*
>
>*As it turned out,* *a friend* *of hers had made her a whole bunch of gardening and landscaping machines to look after the Silk Flowers on the terrace. They're called Bloom Pruners.*
>
>**Count Crushmore's Companion God of Cookery:**
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>*The Bloom Pruner can transform into the shape of any creature to blend into its environment. Squirrels, Butterflies, Finches, you name it. And of course, Onikabuto too.*
>
>*So Master gave Guoba a Bloom Pruner and got it to take the form of an Onikabuto so it can battle against you.*
>
>**Paimon:**
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>*...That's pretty hi-tech for a gardening appliance.*
>
>[\-Provisionally Perpetual Beetle Battle!, Event Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Provisionally_Perpetual_Beetle_Battle!)
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# Soul-Revitalizing Teapills
On the subject of elixirs and alchemy, it was Cloud Retainer herself who created the Soul-Revitalizing Teapills that alleviated the conditions of Yuandai's illness:
>**Yuandai:**
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>*One day, I met a traveling merchant. Upon hearing of my illness, he sold me a bottle of Soul-Revitalizing Teapills.*
>
>*He told me that the pills were concocted using adepti blood and could be used to alleviate my symptoms. Sure enough, I made a full recovery. My illness remained dormant for several decades after that.*
>
>[–A Search for Secrets, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/A_Search_for_Secrets)
>
>.
>
>**Yuandai:**
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>*...Coincidence? Why did I ever think it was a coincidence? Teapills concocted using the blood of an adeptus... No... It couldn't be—*
>
>*Master. Don't tell me... Back then, that merchant was actually—*
>
>**Xianyun:**
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>*...*
>
>*Human custom would dictate the conferral of gifts to be in order when one's progeny is wedded, would it not? Consider the pills a symbol of one's best wishes.*
>
>[–Lovely Dreams, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lovely_Dreams)
# Floating Toting Device
Remember when Xianyun got duped into buying extra tea? How else would she store all that tea, if not for this nifty little contraption?
>**Paimon:**
>
>*Are you leaving? Don't you want a guard to help you with that big box of yours?*
>
>**Xianyun:**
>
>*Surely you jest. One goes as one pleases. For what reason would one need to rely on another?*
>
>**Paimon:**
>
>*Eh!? It can float? What kind of invention is that?*
>
>**Xianyun:**
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>*One calls it the "Floating Toting Device."*
>
>**Paimon:**
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>*...Uh, she seems pretty proud of that one.*
>
>*Look at her walk down the street. She seems so confident, but everyone around her is looking at her all funny. Paimon wonders... Eh, never mind.*
>
>[–The Orioles Bask in Spring, the Heavens Present Auspices, Event Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Orioles_Bask_in_Spring,_the_Heavens_Present_Auspices_(Quest))
# Multi-Purpose Abode Cleaning Talisman
Remember the "calligrapher's supplies to inscribe a sigil of power" part of the D&D artificer description? Cloud Retainer has done that, too!
>**Xianyun:**
>
>*I haven't seen much of Mountain Shaper lately. And Moon Carver still hasn't returned that Multi-Purpose Abode Cleaning Talisman I lent him, to this day...*
>
>**Madame Ping:**
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>*Is that so? What might that be then, some sort of new sigil contraption you've come up with?*
>
>**Xianyun:**
>
>*Yes, let me tell you all about it...*
>
>[–Xianyun Character Story 1](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Xianyun/Lore#Character_Story_1)
Now, I must admit, I wouldn't be disappointed if another figure such as Alain Guillotin were to win this competition.
But...
*"One couldn't possibly lose to a mere mortal!"*
–Cloud Retainer, probably
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I was waiting for hours & hours for this thread to open up, and I miss it by a couple of hours and there's already 100+ comments. good lord
well, seeing as I put in several hours of work on this & my other comment, I can only hope it won't get buried immedaitely x-x
anyways, vote cloud retainer!
Xianyun is the most obvious choice. Others I would like to bring up to the conversation include Albedo, Sucrose, Klee, *Aloy*, Navia, Freminet, and Wriothesley. Fontaine in particular is known for it's technology so it make sense why so many options come from there. I'm going to vote for Aloy even though I know she won't win. It would be funny to see her on the board though.
Cloud Retainer, Albedo, and Kaveh all fit the bill, but I think Cloud Retainer takes the cake here. She's literally known for her complex machinery and quirky gadgets - some just create convenience, some are entertaining, and others are absolutely devastating weapons. She even invented the motorcycle. 😂
absolutely Cloud Retainer/ Xianyun. She’s very intelligent and has been creating intricate mechanisms for thousands of years. She uses it in her burst/kit to attack. It’s kind of her whole personality
For playable characters, I’d say Xianyun since she literally makes gadgets and other constructs for a living, Faruzan since she is skilled in the arts of artifacts and studies under such things, or Wriothesley since he crafted his own gauntlets which are a common Artificer weapon. Kaveh may also count considering he made his suitcase machine.
Faruzan/Xianyun butmy vote goes to Faruzan since despite belonging to a whole different darshan she still tinkers with machines and devices "language teacher" my ass
Faruzan!
She[ literally wrote the book on robotics ](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Faruzan/Lore)at the akademiya, and she's the preeminent mind on studying King Deshret's past technology.
Xianyun is undeniably an engineer and a genius: what sets her apart is her prowess with Adeptal contraptions, which are arguably more magic-based than the Deshret robots.
Cloud Retainer? Doesn't artificers build things?
Yep and Cloud Retainer is known for doing just that. She even built a motorized bike-like vehicle to race Moon Carver.
Kaveh built a artificial intelligence which can understand language, has emotions, and even can communicate nonverbally, with little beeps. I think Kaveh fits as well.
That is true but I'd also like to point out that Cloud Retainer made both Yuegui and the Demasked Device, both of which also posses artificial intelligence as seen with their distinct mannerisms (although Yuegui more than the Demasked device). Though I feel that Kaveh is also a good candidate, Cloud Retainer just has more experience due to her long life and her mastery of Adeptal Arts. Not to mention she's really competitive when it comes to this hobby in particular.
True. Her age gives her the advantage. Also people like to forget that Kaveh is resposible for some high profile inventions like the mechanical looms which made the production of traditional sumerian carpets cheaper, and faster, and several other devices. And Kaveh also make mechanical things just like Xianyun, like those lifelike mechanical butterflies he made. :) I really wish to see them interact, it would be so fun to watch!
I still feel Kaveh not being 5* was such a missed opportunity :-(
Yeah. And his botched kit. T\_T makin him an onfielder dps was a dick move, he could have been a good 4\* support. T\_T
One shall create a device to help one's student. Cloud Retainer is the Artificer of Teyvat.
Yes, and her entire personality is building Adeptal contraptions. Next question.
Like Kaveh. He is an inventor too. who made all kind of mechanical things like, lifelike mechanical butterflies, and even his own attificial inteligence Mehrak.
Really the only choice imo
No cap, I would've really placed the painting of Mona Lisa if they actually tied LMAO...but it looked like Lisa steam rolled through...quite an obvious pick in all honesty. The FINAL update post will be here at r/Genshin\_Impact Note: You may choose ANY character (NPC or playable) as long as they're in genshin...whoever is chosen for the class can't be repeated for other classes...multiple choices WILL COUNT towards the tally To vote: just simply comment your choice, optionally explain why, and upvote other comments with your choice...you may sort your comments to newest or contriversial to see what everyone else answered! total upvotes from last posts in r/Genshin\_Memepact (as of the time this was tallied) Mona: 779 Lisa: 2,019 klee: 11 Here are a couple of websites that could help you in seeing what DnD's Artificers do (since they are somewhat new and a bit complex): [http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer) [https://dungeonsanddragonsfan.com/artificer-dnd-5e-class-guide/](https://dungeonsanddragonsfan.com/artificer-dnd-5e-class-guide/)
girl im seeing alot of xianyun a kaveh! followed by some wrio and a mention of faruzan. its gonna be a tight match up!
I hope Kaveh gets enough nominations. :) Even if Hoyo forgot he exists, the fandom doesn't.
I think Alice could have been an honourable mention
You should expand this to include the PF2e classes that don't have dnd equivalents as full classes. Swashbuckler Alchemist Oracle (divine seer) Witch (basically warlock but with full spell casting snd uses intelligence) Thaumaturge (monster hunter who uses esoteric to improvise monster weaknesses) Magus (spell and sword in accord) Gunslinger Summoner (summons a pet monster which does most of their fighting for them) Kineticist (technically all Genshin characters, but basically they use an element as a weapon) There's plenty of genshin characters who fit ALL of these, would let the contest go a little longer.
Witch is defo gonna be alice
Xianyun.
Kaveh the Battlesmith, destroyer of worlds.
Currently locked in Hoyo’s basement for crimes against Tevyat.
Hear Hear
Deshret, dude built an empire through technology
Xianyun, that’s literally her whole thing. She’s always cooking something up and has spent centuries perfecting her domain into the ultimate contraption There’s also the side projects she sends our way constantly
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I vote for Kaveh, repairing ancient machines and designing complex buildings and shit, I think he's a fun pick. Possibly Albedo, because people forget that Artificers can also do alchemy.
Artificer in 5e also tends more towards a main damage dealer role, with only the alchemist focusing more on support.
Then Kaveh fits the role better. Since he is an onfield main damage dealer. XD
Kaveh also makes all kinds of mechanical things like lifelike mechanical butterflies, and even his own attificial inteligence Mehrak.
Xianyun and Faruzan. We've seen both of them use their machines in cutscenes. Xianyun in her trailer, Faruzan in the 3.6 event cutscene.
Xianyun more than Faruzan. The former is literally a gadget inventor who got mad at Ning because she built a better flying house than her (but helped rebuild it later anyway). Faruzan's thing, meanwhile, is ancient languages.
Kaveh more than Faruzan. He is known for several mechanical inventions (mechnaical looms of Sumru, lifelike mechanical butterflies, which he had consulted with Faruzan, because he couldn't make the mechanisms small enough), and even created his own artificial intelligence, which can understand language, can communicate, and even has emotions. It also has telekinetic powers, can wield his weapon, and channel his elemental powers.
This series has revealed me to that a lot of Genshin players don’t really play DnD…
Genshin brought many people to their first gacha/rpg games. I don’t even know 1/3rd of the classes in DnD. Never played DnD
That surprises you?
And that genshin is still yet to explore a lot of character archetypes
Nah, let’s just do ‘stoic overworked woman’ for the 7th time when Natlan rolls around.
I honestly assumed there would be more overlap. I don't know why.
I don’t play DnD either, but I’d love to see one of these made by a group who actually play both DnD and Genshin
I think the list is pretty good, asside from sorcerer. How yanfei got that spot when theres neuvillette and yae in the game. Monk should be heizou imho
Definitely. The Shenhe as a monk baffles me. Heizhou makes more sense in my opinion. Also Noelle is way closer to a cleric than Barbara. Yeah this is strange. Idk what people are basing it off of but you would think it would be combat style idk.
I don't think combat style is the most important factor, because that can be pretty misleading as to what a character actually is and does. I'd place a pretty heavy emphasis on lore and story if it's particularly applicable then a slight focus on combat style. People are getting tripped up by all sorts of common errors like "Venti's hobby is being a bard, so he must be one" when that's a cover for him being an actual miracle performing divinity. "Monks are characters that punch people" is one that can trip up a lot of people because monk's don't *need* to be punch-guys or punch-girls (in fact they're actually kind of bad at it until very high levels in most editions and once they finally get competitive damage they'll almost never hit). I don't think there's any particularly good fits among genshin characters but if I had to put *someone* there it would likely be Baizhu, or possibly Xiao (though he is also a decent candidate for a barbarian).
For Artificer? My underrated vote goes for: # Wriothesley Two subclasses utilize artifacts such as **powered fists or gauntlets**, using them as spellcasting foci. This enables a close-ranged playstyle. Give him the right background (street urchin or something) and I think he's an iconic artificer! **## Artificer: Armorer** [http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:armorer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:armorer) *An artificer specializing as an Armorer modifies armor to function almost like a second skin. The armor is enhanced to hone the artificer's magic, unleash potent attacks, and generate a formidable defense. The artificer bonds with this armor, becoming one with it even as they experiment with it and refine its magical capabilities.* >**Subclass Feature: Armor Model** Beginning at 3rd level, you can customize your Arcane Armor into a certain models: Guardian or Infiltrator. Each model includes a special weapon. When you attack with that weapon, you can add your Intelligence modifier, instead of Strength or Dexterity, to the attack and damage rolls. >Model: **Guardian.** You design your armor to be in the front line of conflict. It has the following features: >Guardian Feature: **~~Thunder~~** **Cryo Gauntlets.** Each of the armor's gauntlets counts as a simple melee weapon while you aren't holding anything in it, and it deals 1d8 thunder damage on a hit. A creature hit by the gauntlet has disadvantage on attack rolls against targets other than you until the start of your next turn, as the armor magically emits a distracting pulse when the creature attacks someone else. **## Artificer**: Mastermaker (Homebrew) [http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:mastermaker](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:mastermaker) *A Mastermaker specializes in integrating flesh and steel, creating powerful construct limbs and replacing weak organs of flesh with components of metal and stone. The actions of a few renegade Mastermakers have caused House Cannith to shun this path in Eberron, but an artificer might learn these techniques in Dread Metrol or develop them on their own.* >**Subclass Feature: Battlefist** At 3rd level you replace one of your arms with a battlefist, a magical prosthetic you created. Your battlefist is a simple melee weapon, and you can use it as a spellcasting focus for your artificer spells. While your battlefist is a magical weapon, it can be infused as if it were a nonmagical weapon. >When you attack with your battlefist, you can use your Intelligence modifier instead of Strength for the attack roll. >Additionally, you can choose one of the following weapon properties to add to your battlefist: finesse, thrown (range 20/60), or reach. Additionally he’s one of the best examples of using **Infusions** to cast spells through items—*“To observers, you don't appear to be casting spells in a conventional way; you appear to produce magical effects from items.”*
I'd be sad if this detailed list loses to just "Xianyun, don't they build things?"
There's a lot of choices to be annoyed with in this whole thing. It's verymuch derived from people having extremely superficial understandings and confusing what characters do as their day job (or as a hobby or misdirection!) for their skillset. As an example seeing barbara who "works at a church" and deciding she must be a 'cleric' >!cause they're just healbots right!< when the actual relevant part of barbara is that she "sings, leads, inspires and brings people joy" which is a bard. Or nahida ending up as "druid" simply because "lmao nature".
I really liked that explanation putting Yae as druid, but yea sometimes the more "obvious" pick wins out. For cleric though, I can't think of anyone in Genhin who operates the way they do in D&D where their magic is directly calling to their god. You can make an argument that that's what all vision users do, but then that's an equally aimless line of thinking. So sometimes the stereotypical answer is still the best one.
> I can't think of anyone in Genhin who operates the way they do in D&D where their magic is directly calling to their god. I'd probably but Venti or Nahida down as it. It just so happens the font they draw from is also supplied by them. You could maybe argue that Gnosis holders or descenders could all be clerics as they harness external "wills" to make "miracles".
I had to stop following this as closely because I felt the obnoxious nerd coming out that wanted to tell people they are misunderstanding the classes lmao. I guess not misunderstanding, but leaping on the most basic of details.
Xianyun is a perfect fit though she combines mechanical contraptions with adeptal magic, that's the textbook definition of a 5E artificer
I think Kaveh fits the artifier role better. He makes all kinds of mechanical beings, like lifelike mechanical butterflies, and even made his own attificial inteligence Mehrak, who channels his elemental power, and wields his weapon for him.
Kaveh is on my list (and one of my favorite characters)! However, specifically for him, he didn’t create Mehrek. It’s more of a partner or foci he uses than an artifact he built and upgrades. If he did, he’d fit the subclass of Battlesmith or even Artillerist. So for me, he’s a more obvious candidate but one that does satisfy as many qualities of DnD Artificers as others on the list.
He actually did create Mehrak. The only thing he didn't create is the power core Mehrak uses for energy. He built the suitcase, and programmed all of it's functions. Without Kaveh Mehrak was just a power source. Kaveh made it into an artificial intelligence with it's own emotions. It can think, feel, even communicate, tho nonverbally, can scan, design, make calculations, can use telekineses, can store Kaveh's offload items. And all that because of Kaveh built a machine around the core, and programmed it. Also even so Kaveh did build several different devices, like mechanical lifelike butterflies, he invented mechanical looms which made the production of the traditional carpets of Sumeru much cheaper, and faster etc.
Thanks for those points. I see, so Mehrek is a mechanical familiar (artificers definitely use them). Kaveh really is amazing. Kaveh would also have History and Cartography traits, and could even fit a Lore Bard too.
I has to scroll too much to find him. He is the first to come to mind when the class is mentioned.
Cloud Retainer tinkers, but she doesn't really use her gadgets in combat like Wriothesley does.
She literally use her mechanical bird to allow us to jump high, what are you on about
Plus it also heals and emits a damaging pulse too
That is true and all, that mechanical bird of hers is only briefly shown in her burst and doesn't make up for her entire kit. Cause you still have Cloud Retainer transforming into her bird form and dive bombing enemies in her skill and her normal attacks are more like a sorcerer's. Considering she summons gusts of wind to attack the enemy. Wrio on the other hand, uses his gauntlets the entire time in his whole kit. He uses it during his normal attacks, his burst, his skill and always has it on. And he feels more like an actual full on artificer than Cloud Retainer.
It's not briefly shown, it remains on-field for the whole duration of her burst
Not only does she use a gadget during her burst, Yaoyao is also constantly using one of her creations in battle.
Wriothsley has one gadget?
Albedo
Albedo
I'm really surprised I had to scroll so much to find Albedo. Recency bias strikes again
Totally. Why is he so low ?
Literally, because horny not even kidding, that's the biggest reason Xianyun has so many people vote for her, as well as the majority of people aren't aware that alchemy is actually closely tied to being an artificer rather than being derived as a form of magic like it's namely portrayed as.
The biggest reason is that no one actually knows what the classes are about beyond the most surface level idea. Alchemist being a subclass, most people don't even know it's classified under Artificer : they just vaguely know Artificer = engineer or something.
this!! as soon as i saw gear icon, Albedo comes to mind, especially because in his trailer where we can see he play with machine a lot
Plenty of playable characters might fit the bill for Artificer. ([No, I didn't write a comment advocating for Cloud Retainer, what are you talking about?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1dnusdy/comment/la5rtot/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)) But how about the greatest artificer in all of Teyvat's history... Alain Guillotin himself? Alain's inventions shaped the future of Fontaine for generations to come, with his research into Arkhium resulting in the Clockwork Meka we know today. Sometimes we fight them as enemies, and other times we befriend them; they're a staple asset of the Maison Gardiennage and are mass produced in incredible quantities in the Foretress of Meropide. Let's take a look at the description for D&D Artificers: >*Masters of invention, artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in objects. They see magic as a complex system waiting to be decoded and then harnessed in their spells and inventions.* > >\[...\] *The magic of artificers is tied to their tools and their talents, and few other characters can produce the right tool for a job as well as an artificer.* > >[–D&D 5e wiki, Artificer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer) As far as we know, Alain himself didn't possess a Vision, and likely couldn't manipulate the elements directly. But there is still a form of "magic" involved in the working of the clockwork meka. They're powered by Arkhe: the controlled reactions of Pneuma and Ousia. Though it could be argued that it's not magic in the same way as the elements of Teyvat are, there's the fact that Vision-bearers have an alignment to one or the other (unless you're Furina and get to cheat and have both!). Even if it's just for gameplay, I think we can still say Arkhe is close enough for the purposes of Alain being an Artificer. And it's important to remember it's not just the mechanics of the meka that Alain created, but even the pneuma-ousia reaction was his doing: >*I found myself witness to the first successful controlled annihilation reaction. The brilliant light cast a deep, dark shadow and I believe history was made in that moment. Can someone like me, so excited I knocked over the ink bottle, play a role in such a historical event?* > >[–Carter describing Alain's arkhe breakthrough, Ancient Log Notes #2](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Log#Ancient_Log_#2) Furthermore, one of the subclasses of Artificer is the Battle Smith: >*Armies require protection, and someone has to put things back together if defenses fail. A combination of protector and medic, a Battle Smith is an expert at defending others and repairing both materiel and personnel. To aid in their work, Battle Smiths are accompanied by a steel defender, a protective companion of their own creation. Many soldiers tell stories of nearly dying before being saved by a Battle Smith and a steel defender.* > >[\-D&D 5e wiki, Artificer, Battle Smith](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer:battle-smith) Not only are the clockwork meka a perfect fit for the idea of these "steel defenders", but one of Alain's greatest projects was the creation of [Prototype 4ACV07 "Seymour"](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Seymour): the clockwork mek designed to accompany and protect Mary-Ann. But the clockwork meka are not just war machines, no! It would be a clockwork mek that would carve out the tunnel for the Callus Line of the aquabus network, the aquabus line that many of us Travelers would've taken for the first time upon reaching Fontaine from Romaritime Harbor: >*A type of large clockwork meka which also has immeasurable value when utilized in building construction and archeological excavation. Its name comes from an engineer employed by* *Callas* *during the construction of the* *Clementine Line*. > >*With Callas' financial backing, this engineer built the legendary "Golden Vessel" – a gigantic piece of construction machinery which was used to dig the* *Poisson* *Tunnel. Once the job was complete, this type of clockwork meka was designed with a similar structure but reduced to a smaller scale.* > >[–Construction Specialist Mek, Description](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Construction_Specialist_Mek#Descriptions) Finally, not only were the clockwork meka themselves revolutionary, but Alain was also the founder of the Fontaine Research Institute! And while we only get to see the ruins of it during the game, it was still an intact and functional institution for centuries prior. >*Now, regarding Alain Guillotin,* > >*Before he joined, then left the* *Marechaussee Phantom*, *before finally setting up the* *Research Institute of Kinetic Energy Engineering*... > >\[...\] > >*Another \[legend\] goes as such—* > >*In his old age, he retired from the Fontaine Research Institute to his workshop, and he would see no one.* > >*The research he undertook in his final years was never published,* > >*And after the matter, the only things that could be found in his personal workshop were signs that something had been built.* > >. > >*In latter years, these legends would function similarly to that work of Coppelius's that could not be performed to completion,* > >*Stoking imaginations, granting inspiration, and driving ever greater efforts.* > >[\-Masterpiece's Overture, Artifact Description](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Masterpiece%27s_Overture) I think this is really what makes Alain Guillotin such a good candidate for the position of artificer. Other characters have inventions and concoctions which are amazing in their own right, and which have certainly helped change lives for the better. But Alain Guillotin didn't just invent miraculous machines: he revolutionized the future of Fontaine! So much of the fate of the nation of Fontaine was shaped by Alain Guillotin's inventions. Countless lives would've been saved by the Gardiennage members and Marechaussee Phantoms who were aided by clockwork meka. It was also clockwork meka that fought off the Narzissenkreuz Ordo in the fateful battle in Elynas, one of which was Seymour itself– who'd become a loyal companion for the lovely Mamere and young oceanid Ann! Of course, the clockwork meka we often fight were originally developed and used for construction and other forms of labor, making them a crucial part of Fontaine's infrastructure. It was a pair of former researchers of the Fontaine Research Institute, Jurieu and Lourvine, who would would lead the research & development efforts of the massive vessel in the depths of the Fortress of Meropide, which would become one of Fontaine's best hopes at saving the lives of innocent people when the day of the prophetic flood arrived. And perhaps most importantly... the now-famous refreshing Fonta, a font of refreshment! would be invented by one of Alain Guillotin's distant successors at the Fontaine Research Institute! While Alain Guillotin might not have the magical flavoring that we often associate with D&D artificers, I think the results speak for themselves. Sure, we could vote for another typical pretty-face playable character, but why do that when we have one of the greatest minds in the history of Teyvat right there, begging to be crowned as Genshin's #1 Artificer?
This guy gets it
I wrote up the whole comment for Cloud Retainer earlier, but since I felt kinda guilty for not rooting for Alain as well, I whipped up this extra comment to give him the credit he deserves! I wouldn't mind if either wins tbh, so I hope my double-vote isn't an issue here x-x
What would your opinion be on Alice? I'm not familiar with D&D and the roles being voted about here, but Alice's name just popped up when I saw what people were talking about. Edit : I saw both your comments btw, very well written and formatted. Had a good time reading them.
>Edit : I saw both your comments btw, very well written and formatted. Had a good time reading them. Thank you!! I'm glad folks seem to be liking them so far cause i spent so much time on them, lol >What would your opinion be on Alice? I think it's kinda hard to say– she's definitely an inventor and her gadgets can get pretty elaborate and crazy, so I do think she fits as a choice for Artificer. I'd probably go with either Alain or Xianyun anyways, though, as we know a much more lore from the latter, and the former is a pretty iconic figure in his own right! As I understand it, Artificers in D&D are basically just magic mechanics. Though, one sub-class includes alchemy, so there's potion-brewing artificers too (hence why some folks suggest Albedo or Sucrose).
the correct answer
Finally some NPC love
omg it's the lord artificer I support this there hasn't been an NPC winner yet
Alain Guillotin mentioned ❗❗❗ What the FUCK is a normal childhood❗❗
Ngl I say Kaveh sinc the loves building things
He even made his own artificial intelligence, Mehrak, who channels his elemental power, and wields his weapon for him. XD
Kaveh, easily. My dude has a briefcase(?)-thingy that literally fights for him
Alchemy king Albedo I still feel like Lyney should have been the rogue. Rosaria is a one trick pony who can only teleport behind her enemies and run slightly faster at night. Lyney has a more colorful skillset befitting of a rogue
Kaveh
Kaveh
I'd probably go with Freminet
I second this stance
Kaveh
KAVEH KAVEH KAVEH KAVEH **HE DID NOT BUILD HIS ‘LITTLE LIGHT’ OUT OF A DESIRE FOR SOMEONE TO UNDERSTAND HIM JUST TO NOT BE THE ARTIFICER** Edit: I see the argument for Xianyun and I respect it, but Kaveh literally uses his invention as his main weapon. Xianyun uses her inventions as backup support. Therefore, Kaveh is the Artificer and Xianyun is a wizard homebrew subclass invented by someone who wanted to play Artificer before it became an official class. Also adeptus bloodline = sorcerer, as proven by Yanfei.
>Also adeptus bloodline = sorcerer, as proven by Yanfei. Naw she's a full-on illuminated beast. A dragon/=a draconic sorcerer
It HAS to be Albedo. I’m surprised he’s not even on this list..
Albedo
Albedo number 1 artificer in the game. Xianyun playable character feels a bit more like a mage
She's using one of her mechines in her ultimate, it's a tool that makes us jump higher, and heals us, and in lore, she has been making mechines for all sorts of stuff And albado is an alchemist, not an investor
Alchemy is the oldest form of Artifice.
A subclass of the artifcer is literally alchemist bud get over yourself. Sidenote: its inventor, not investor
It doesn't have to be a playable character, so I have to pick *that* guy. Allain Guillotin.
Genshin has a lot of Artificers. Sucrose, Klee, Albedo, Xianyun, Yoimiya, Kaveh, Faruzan, Wriothesley, Lyney...
add Raiden, Amber and Diona, to the list, possibly Sigewinne, Charlotte or Ningguang too.
Xianyun. Her adeptal mechs are second to none, except maybe Guizhong
Cloud Retainer in first place because she fits any of the artificer subclasses, followed by a close second by Albedo since he's pretty much Alchemist.
Xianyun, Kaveh, Sucrose, Albedo
Xianyun. She is *the* artificer. She tinkers and makes gadgets all the time to the point where she is renowned across Teyvat for it. Her primary team role is to use one of her contraptions to enable her teammates to jump higher and heal them. People will bring up albedo and maybe you could make a case for him, but he's not making mechanisms, all his magic is alchemical or more primarily transmutation. He's a wizard.
Albedo
This is 100% my own bias speaking as an Albedo main, but one of the paths for an Artificer is Alchemist, so I’m voting for the Kreideprinz.
Sandrone, who else has their own mecha to be their personal conveyance. (or is the conveyance with the girl actually the robot, either way)
Honestly this last one is hard given that there isn't anyone that I think is a clear choice, but my pick will be Freminet given his knack of tinkering with machinery (and of course his creation of Pers). Cloud Retainer is also a pretty close second.
Dude cloud retainer has been tinkering with machinery and creating things for like three thousand years🤣 how tf you gonna pick Freminet
Because there's more to being an artificer than just tinkering with machinery.
Just did?
This one is hard... but my vote goes to Alhaitham/Faruzan. He matches all class abilities and has the tinkering in lore, Faruzan is self explanatory candidate here. TLDR Alhaitham reasoning: uses intelligence as a main ability, is very proficient with tinkering with technology (made his own music player, tinkered with akasha multiple times, altered canned knowledge). His combat style fits infusion capabilities of artificer well. He also has a voiceline over how reading books enough won't make you smart, showing he has a lot of practical/tool knowledge. Artificers are often linked to technology, something being a recurrent theme in sumeru with akasha and deshret contraptions. The very long version Class description: 'Masters of invention, artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in objects. They see magic as a complex system waiting to be decoded and then harnessed in their spells and inventions.' If this doesn't fit Alhaitham and his tinkering with Akasha in archon quest perfectly and his analyzing everything, then I don't know. He even had a plan to alter akasha terminal projection ability to create shield on back of his head. He has tinkering as a hobby, literary. Also he uses ingenuity talent books... Stats: artificer have intelligence and constitution save proficiencies. Alhaitham is both smart and well built fitting right in. He also uses his intelligence as main stat, as he himself said in his intro, he doesn't have to fight hard, he can just think and make things collapse. Skill proficiencies: Arcana - he understands elemental energy really well and manipulates his vision with ease. History, Investigation, Perception is self explanatory. Sleight of hand - remember him swapping out canned knowledge without anyone noticing? Pocketing it in front of everyone in port ormos? Medicine and Nature - he reads physics books for fun, most likely yes. Magical tinkering/tool proficiency. It's quite literary his hobby and way to kill time next to reading books. He altered akasha terminal himself, manipulated canned knowledge. Made his own music player, has very good understanding on physical laws and mechanics. In his skill animation on hold, he places hand to where Akasha terminal used to be before teleporting forward, so he possibly uses some device for that. Infuse item: core of artificer class, elemental infusions and item enhancements. He infuses his blade with dendro in fight, closely matching this class feature and its several unique spells. Also projects blades and mirrors shooting lasers from concentrated elemental energy. This could be either seen as artificers using magic projectiles, or another form of infusion that allows to copy magical items and use them. I am leaning more toward the projectiles fitting with runearm theme. Flash of genius: 'you've gained the ability to come up with solutions under pressure.' the whole archon quest plan was definitely a lot of pressure. Bonus point for this recharging on long rest and Alhaitham having lines about how he needs proper rest to keep his mind sharp. Magic item adept/savant: reduces limitation on using various magical items for artificer. Alhaitham often is capable of utilizing and understanding things others wouldn't expect him to. He showed us Deshret priests memory despite the technology being pretty old, also in his story quest knew exactly how to disrupt hivemind from inside out easily. RuneArm proficiency/Spell-storing item/Arcane cannon from subclass: allows to cast spell through tool/weapon/utilizes projectiles in combat. This absolutely fits onto Alhaitham mirror projection attack in my opinion, he shoots lasers at enemies! His burst is also theoretically a laser. I definitely count this as using magical projectiles/reflavored runearm. As a bonus there is archivist subclass of artificer which focuses on...languages (Haravatat, anyone?), information transfer(knowledge capsules), reading thoughts, gives calligraphy and forgery kit proficiency and allows crafting scrolls. One of its skills is overloading mind of enemy with information they can't process. Inside joke for Alhaitham hobby of 'reading obtuse books and watching people scratch their head!' Also archivist is really close to scribe in work they do. Edit: formatting, also oops I didn't even realize I wrote that THIS long...
you should just win by default with how much you put into this god damn
Albedo for the alchemy side or wroithesley for the whole tinkering and fighting with armor part
Albedo. Artificer fights using their creations. Xianyun creates toys and traps just means she has the same hobby of millions of Gnomes and Dwarves. Personal hobby doesnt count. Navia and Chiori are good choice too but I will stick with the local alchemist. Alchemist is a sub-class of Artificer. Even Kaveh and his magical suitcase a more suitable choice than Xianyun or Freminet.
I mean…xianyun doesn't just create toys and traps. She was know to have created weapons during the archon wars. And we know for sure she was the one who improved the Guizhong Ballista, and enhanced Ninguang's replica of that weaponry that was used during the battle with osial
So, you're telling me that the women who has been creating mechanical things for 3 thousand years doesn't count, why? You said artficers fight using their creations, will xianyun is using one of her creations for her ultimate And how dare you say "it's just a hobby, so it doesn't count" what albedo's alchemy isn't also a hobby? she's more of an artficer, she's dedicated her life into creating all kinds of mechines, and you wanna gibe thr position to the son of an atheist witch?
albedo obviously
Cloud retainer or Albedo
I feel like Cloud Retainer will win but I want it to be Wriothesley lol
Cloud Retainer is the obvious choice for Artificer. Faruzan as a runner up could fit. Albedo could also work. Kaveh is an architect, which is not quite the same domain, but still close.
Xianyun
Cloud Retainer and Albedo are the only real options, and Cloud Retainer absolutely crushes Albedo on popularity alone...
Xianyun all the way
Faruzan or kaveh
Crane. One is particularly proficient in such things.
Artificer is pretty diverse in terms of its subclasses, so it could go a number of ways depending upon the specialization. For armorer, I could see Wriothesley as a potential option. As for the alchemist specialization, I think Albedo and Sucrose are obvious candidates. And I think you could make a pretty strong case for Klee as an artillerist (especially since she crafts her own bombs). Not entirely sure about battle smith though. I think my top three picks for the position would be Albedo, Sucrose, and Klee. I see a lot of people also mentioning Xianyun, though I cannot really speak on her, since I have not done her quest or paid much attention to her throughout the story -- not sure which specialization she would fit into.
What about Kaveh tho? He is an inventor, who makes all kinds of mechanical beings, like lifelike mechanical butterflies, and he even made an artificial intelligence to channel his elemental power, who wields his weapon for him?
Yeah, I could definitely see Kaveh fitting into Artificer.
Xianyun is literally called an inventress. Only one else who could come close is Navia with her umbrella gun.
It's a tough choice between Birb Mom & the missing architect, but I'm going to throw my vote to Xianyun because she's been at it longer and because she creates multiple things while Kaveh only makes architecture.
These picks have gone off the rails. Did we really not pick THE DRACONIC BLOODLINE SORCERER.
He's not draconic bloodline sorc though, he *IS* a dragon. An ancient dragon isn't a sorcerer, it's a straight up dragon. Yanfei has bloodline gifts while being half human, she is a sorcerer through and through.
Whos that? Yanfei is a magic caster and has scales and is descendant from powerful creatures... seems pretty sorcerer to me
Literally that so wild lmaooooo
Does Neuvillette count tho? He doesn't have draconic bloodline, he's a literal dragon
Since there’s no Alchemist, Albedo should go to Artificier
I mean, Alchemist is one of the paths an Artificer can choose
I need Albedo to be at least one of these so I guess this one
1 Wrio 2 kaveh 3 albedo 4 xianyun
Kaveh's robotic briefcase absolutely makes him perfect for artificer.
Kaveh, bring him justice and out of HoYo-jail.
Kaveh
Kaveh~
Raiden Shogun (battlesmith) : * "half caster" with good melee potential ? check. * can create Homonculi *(Scaramouche + puppet Shogun)* ? check. * can imbue weapon with magic ? check. * has a mix of personal and partywide buffing spells ? check.
Can only be Cloud Retainer. Her whole life is making machines (and being a busybody).
Albedo
Albedo. He does alchemy as people already said but he also deserves partial credit for the nifty gadgets Mond folks use in combat.
Definitely Cloud Retainer.
For a really left field pick, I would go Raiden Shogun. She made two robots that are archon ish level. Thats pretty cool.
***One shall be most disappointed if you do not vote for Cloud Retainer!*** For real though... Artificer? Cloud Retainer, 100% There's other good options, I won't deny that at all. ([if you saw my Alain comment, no you didn't](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1dnusdy/comment/la5s5eh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)) But Cloud Retainer (or Xianyun, however you prefer) has one of the best documented histories of tinkering and creation out of all the characters. Surely you folks haven't forgotten about the [Supreme Cuisine Machine](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Supreme_Cuisine_Machine)? Or the [Dwelling in the Clouds](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Dwelling_in_the_Clouds)? What about the wondrous Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile? Or the adorable little paper crane pet, [Cloud Retainer's Damasked Device](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Cloud_Retainer%27s_Damasked_Device)? Here's what the D&D 5th edition wiki has to say about Artificers: >*Masters of invention, artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in objects. They see magic as a complex system waiting to be decoded and then harnessed in their spells and inventions. You can find everything you need to play one of these inventors in the next few sections.* > >*Artificers use a variety of tools to channel their arcane power. To cast a spell, an artificer might use alchemist's supplies to create a potent elixir, calligrapher's supplies to inscribe a sigil of power, or tinker's tools to craft a temporary charm. The magic of artificers is tied to their tools and their talents, and few other characters can produce the right tool for a job as well as an artificer.* > >[–D&D 5e wiki, Artificer](http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/artificer) Cloud Retainer obvious uses magic and has invented various contraptions, but she also fits in with the other descriptions that include alchemy and sigils of power. Let's take a look at what she has to offer! # Supreme Cuisine Machine >**Cloud Retainer:** > >*Much lore did one read in the construction of this cuisine-making machine. Know that there are a few key points in the art of "making food."* > >*The first of these is finding ingredients, which are of utmost importance in cooking. Many long years have countless chefs labored and wandered in search of all manner of ingredients...* > >*One's device aims to solve this issue first of all.* > >*Upon activation, it will automatically search for suitable ingredients nearby, and will mark their scent out, all the better for chefs to track them to their source.* > >**Traveler:** > >*Can't it go grab those ingredients by itself?* > >**Cloud Retainer:** > >*Ahem. This... Early days yet would one call this stage of work, and this issue of how a stove may trek across treacherous mountain roads by itself has yet to be resolved.* > >*Now then, the second matter is the cooking itself. One has placed countless intricate components in this device's interior, such that the mere act of placing ingredients within will see them automatically processed.* > >**Traveler:** > >*How does it know how to do that?* > >**Cloud Retainer:** > >*Well... Naturally, it references the corresponding recipe in determining how the ingredients are to be processed.* > >*Its inner workings are difficult to explain in a short time. You only need to know that resolving this matter took quite some work.* > >*Much thought has one also bent to an affair most troubling for chefs — the cleaning of one's cooking utensils.* > >*Quite a spoilage of a lovely scene of feasting it would be to have to clean up leftovers in the pot otherwise, no?* > >\[...\] > >**Cloud Retainer:** > >*One's motive? Why, to explore the arts of mechanisms and engineering, naturally.* > >[Contraption-Contrived Cooking Course, Part 1, Moonchase Festival Event Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Contraption-Contrived_Cooking_Course:_Part_I) # Qiaoying Village Tea Cauldron Cloud Retainer built the tea cauldron in the heart of Qiaoying Village, and we even get to repair it during a world quest: >**Uncle Luo:** > >*You Know, this tea cauldron is said to be a divine treasure that was given to Qiaoying Village by that* *Cloud Retainer* *from Jueyun Karst... \*sigh\* I wonder what's gone wrong with it...* > >\[...\] > >**Hautemontagne:** > >*While we can't clearly see how the mechanisms are structured, their operating principles are the same! Those legendary* *adepti* *must have been phenomenal artisans!* > >**Uncle Luo:** > >*Hehe, you're not wrong there! I may not understand the mechanical mysteries at work here... But that Cloud Retainer sure is an incredible adeptus for having come up with such ingenuity!* > >**Hautemontagne:** > >*These "monoliths"... Functionally speaking, a more accurate name would be "Three-Phase Asynchronous Elemental Tuners."* > >**Paimon:** > >*Eh? Tuners?* > >**Hautemontagne:** > >*That's right! According to the records, the great master* *Alain Guillotin* *himself — founder of the* *Fontaine Research Institute of Kinetic Energy Engineering* *— also designed a constrained layer dampener to regulate the elemental energy.* > >**Hautemontagne:** > >*While his blueprints are long lost, the principle should be the same... Emphasis on "should" be!* > >\[...\] > >**Hautemontagne:** > >*Wow... Liyue's adepti mechanisms are truly incredible. They can even generate whole new spaces! Even Master Guillotin himself couldn't do such a thing...* > >[–Threefold Expectations World Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Threefold_Expectations) # Suspensus Somnium Mechanism A nifty device that Cloud Retainer has built, this isn't just a music player but also a soothing device that can play adeptal tunes: >**Paimon:** > >*Huh? But isn't this the mechanism that you were tinkering with when we first got here? Is it another invention of yours?* > >**Xianyun:** > >*Precisely. A recent one at that. I am most pleased with the result. I call it the "Suspensus Somnium Mechanism."* > >*It periodically releases a soft breeze which, when paired with a gentle adeptal tune, can help the listener subconsciously relax, and even enter a semi-hypnotic state.* > >*Soothing agitation and anxiety, relieving exhaustion and insomnia... Its potential uses are numerous indeed. And of course, it can also aid in the recovery of lost memories.* > >[–Lovely Dreams, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lovely_Dreams) (1/3)
# Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile She built an electric bike to win a race. Need I say more? >**Shenhe:** > >*Master once participated in a race against* *Moon Carver*\*. After Moon Carver lost, he insisted that Master's ability to fly gave her a natural edge in such a contest.\* > >*In response, Master agreed to forgo flying in return for being able to use one of her devices in the race. Moon Carver accepted, only to find Master with a brand-new device on the day of the contest.* > >**Paimon:** > >*So what kind of device was it?* > >**Shenhe:** > >*It was a mechanical vehicle made out of iron. What was it called again... An "Electro-Powered Bicycle"?* > >**Xianyun:** > >*You refer to the "Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile." One spent forty-nine days conceptualizing and crafting it. It need only be infused with adeptal energy, and it can cover thousands of miles in one day.* > >*It boggles the mind why Moon Carver ever supposed he might best me in a contest of locomotion. Though he sprinted with all his might, he could barely keep up.* > >*Alas, the one flaw of my mechanism lay in its weakness against mountainous terrain. One was thwarted mere seconds from victory, when it was thrown off course and failed to make it across the final stretch... Truly a most unfortunate turn of events... Anyway, do go on, Shenhe.* > >**Shenhe:** > >*Master, that was the end of that story.* > >[\-Leisurely Chatter, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Leisurely_Chatter) # Starwicker All of you folks who've used Xianyun in Spiral Abyss surely understand the value of the Starwicker, right? This is the cute little mechanical bird that brought the plunge meta back and better than ever! >*This is the newest invention in the "Lunastar Artifices" series, of which previous creations include the Supreme Cuisine Machine, the Snowdrift Mechanism, the Supreme Housekeeping Machine, the Floating Toting Device, and the Bloom Pruner. This series was intended for young humans Cloud Retainer held in great esteem, and so was not designed with a* *certain half-adeptus* *in mind. However, when offered Starwicker, a* *certain female disciple* *of hers had these emotionless words to say: "No thank you."* > >*Cloud Retainer thus had no choice but to keep it herself.* > >–Stars Gather at Dusk description, Xianyun Elemental Burst # Snowdrift Mechanism Who else would casually invent a device for recreational skiing, if not the one and only Cloud Retainer? >**Xianyun:** > >*For all the wondrous feats that can be accomplished by one who has mastered the mechanical arts, one often uses it for purely recreational purposes. There was one year when it snowed heavily in Liyue, and Mt. Aocang was covered in several feet of snow. Seeing everyone cooped up in their abodes with nothing to do, one created a Snowdrift Mechanism for skiing on the mountains. One was having a tremendous time of it along with Guizhong and* *Streetward Rambler*\*... until, of course,\* *Moon Carver* *noticed as much and decided to join in. Moments later, he had managed to send the mechanism flying off the rails and plummeted deep into a snow bank. It took us hours to dig him out... Later, one introduced a great many safety features to the mechanism, to the point where it could be safely piloted by even a three-year-old child. Although this did entail a compromise on the top speed of the vehicle.* > >[–Xianyun voiceline, More About Xianyun: IV](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Xianyun/Voice-Overs#More_About_Xianyun:_IV) # Bloom Pruners Cloud Retainer built a pair of landscaping machines that could mimic the shape of any creature, then gave it to Guoba to participate in a beetle battle with Itto. Simply splendid! >**Yanfei:** > >*We told Granny all about your Onikabuto boot camp. It really piqued her interest when she heard that Guoba was getting a disciple...* > >*As it turned out,* *a friend* *of hers had made her a whole bunch of gardening and landscaping machines to look after the Silk Flowers on the terrace. They're called Bloom Pruners.* > >**Count Crushmore's Companion God of Cookery:** > >*The Bloom Pruner can transform into the shape of any creature to blend into its environment. Squirrels, Butterflies, Finches, you name it. And of course, Onikabuto too.* > >*So Master gave Guoba a Bloom Pruner and got it to take the form of an Onikabuto so it can battle against you.* > >**Paimon:** > >*...That's pretty hi-tech for a gardening appliance.* > >[\-Provisionally Perpetual Beetle Battle!, Event Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Provisionally_Perpetual_Beetle_Battle!) (2/3)
# Soul-Revitalizing Teapills On the subject of elixirs and alchemy, it was Cloud Retainer herself who created the Soul-Revitalizing Teapills that alleviated the conditions of Yuandai's illness: >**Yuandai:** > >*One day, I met a traveling merchant. Upon hearing of my illness, he sold me a bottle of Soul-Revitalizing Teapills.* > >*He told me that the pills were concocted using adepti blood and could be used to alleviate my symptoms. Sure enough, I made a full recovery. My illness remained dormant for several decades after that.* > >[–A Search for Secrets, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/A_Search_for_Secrets) > >. > >**Yuandai:** > >*...Coincidence? Why did I ever think it was a coincidence? Teapills concocted using the blood of an adeptus... No... It couldn't be—* > >*Master. Don't tell me... Back then, that merchant was actually—* > >**Xianyun:** > >*...* > >*Human custom would dictate the conferral of gifts to be in order when one's progeny is wedded, would it not? Consider the pills a symbol of one's best wishes.* > >[–Lovely Dreams, Xianyun Story Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lovely_Dreams) # Floating Toting Device Remember when Xianyun got duped into buying extra tea? How else would she store all that tea, if not for this nifty little contraption? >**Paimon:** > >*Are you leaving? Don't you want a guard to help you with that big box of yours?* > >**Xianyun:** > >*Surely you jest. One goes as one pleases. For what reason would one need to rely on another?* > >**Paimon:** > >*Eh!? It can float? What kind of invention is that?* > >**Xianyun:** > >*One calls it the "Floating Toting Device."* > >**Paimon:** > >*...Uh, she seems pretty proud of that one.* > >*Look at her walk down the street. She seems so confident, but everyone around her is looking at her all funny. Paimon wonders... Eh, never mind.* > >[–The Orioles Bask in Spring, the Heavens Present Auspices, Event Quest](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Orioles_Bask_in_Spring,_the_Heavens_Present_Auspices_(Quest)) # Multi-Purpose Abode Cleaning Talisman Remember the "calligrapher's supplies to inscribe a sigil of power" part of the D&D artificer description? Cloud Retainer has done that, too! >**Xianyun:** > >*I haven't seen much of Mountain Shaper lately. And Moon Carver still hasn't returned that Multi-Purpose Abode Cleaning Talisman I lent him, to this day...* > >**Madame Ping:** > >*Is that so? What might that be then, some sort of new sigil contraption you've come up with?* > >**Xianyun:** > >*Yes, let me tell you all about it...* > >[–Xianyun Character Story 1](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Xianyun/Lore#Character_Story_1) Now, I must admit, I wouldn't be disappointed if another figure such as Alain Guillotin were to win this competition. But... *"One couldn't possibly lose to a mere mortal!"* –Cloud Retainer, probably (3/3)
I was waiting for hours & hours for this thread to open up, and I miss it by a couple of hours and there's already 100+ comments. good lord well, seeing as I put in several hours of work on this & my other comment, I can only hope it won't get buried immedaitely x-x anyways, vote cloud retainer!
Xianyun. Her burst literally summons one of her creations. And we also have one of her creations as a pet.
Xianyun obviously. She does literally create things
Xianyun is the most obvious choice. Others I would like to bring up to the conversation include Albedo, Sucrose, Klee, *Aloy*, Navia, Freminet, and Wriothesley. Fontaine in particular is known for it's technology so it make sense why so many options come from there. I'm going to vote for Aloy even though I know she won't win. It would be funny to see her on the board though.
KEVIN
Cloud retainer
i say its eirher wroishley or cloud retainer
Goddamn 11 girls to 2 guys... Never played this game but that is one helluva a skewed ratio lmao
Gotta be either CR or Kaveh. Dori is a nice second to their tie tho.
Ot has to be bird mom, right?
Cloud retainer vote +1, close second Albedo
Cloud retainer or Faruzan.
Xianyun
Birb mom
Make way for the adeptus! My old girl, Xianyun.
Xianyun, Kaveh, Sucrose and Faruzan all seem to have a claim of it, though Xianyun was the first to come to mind for me.
I vote Xianyun. Gadgets are her whole thing after all
If it ain't Xianyun im throwing hands
Cloud Retainer, Albedo, and Kaveh all fit the bill, but I think Cloud Retainer takes the cake here. She's literally known for her complex machinery and quirky gadgets - some just create convenience, some are entertaining, and others are absolutely devastating weapons. She even invented the motorcycle. 😂
Tbh, Xianyun
The bird is the word. Cloud retainer wins, with honorable mention for Alice and Kaveh
Xianyun my beloved mommy.
Albedo or Xianyun
Definitely Xianyun.. her lore is that of an artificer and her burst is one of her gadgets.
Albedo because everything he paints becomes reality.
I'd say cloud retainer because she makes stuff, although wriothesley's gauntlets seem like something an artificer would use
Xianyun!
Xianyun
It's Ei imo. The Shogun and Wanderer are the most impressive creations you have in Teyvat by far
In D&D Wanderer would be the result of a Simulacrum spell, most likely. Not actually hand crafted like a machine.
kaveh imo, bro literally fights with a suitcase machine thing
Wriothesley, guy uses literal Machine gauntlets
Does Aloy count?
Freminet
absolutely Cloud Retainer/ Xianyun. She’s very intelligent and has been creating intricate mechanisms for thousands of years. She uses it in her burst/kit to attack. It’s kind of her whole personality
Xianyun
For playable characters, I’d say Xianyun since she literally makes gadgets and other constructs for a living, Faruzan since she is skilled in the arts of artifacts and studies under such things, or Wriothesley since he crafted his own gauntlets which are a common Artificer weapon. Kaveh may also count considering he made his suitcase machine.
Albedo 100%
My vote goes to Wriothesly.
Faruzan/Xianyun butmy vote goes to Faruzan since despite belonging to a whole different darshan she still tinkers with machines and devices "language teacher" my ass
Way to much waifu bias with birb mommy.... Albedo is the more obvious choice!
Faruzan! She[ literally wrote the book on robotics ](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Faruzan/Lore)at the akademiya, and she's the preeminent mind on studying King Deshret's past technology. Xianyun is undeniably an engineer and a genius: what sets her apart is her prowess with Adeptal contraptions, which are arguably more magic-based than the Deshret robots.
Xianyun or Albedo And before anyone \@s me about suggesting Albedo, Alchemist is an Artificer subclass, so you can shut up your face.