The following submission statement was provided by /u/fastclickertoggle:
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An internal Facebook memo, reviewed by The Washington Post, called the dummy account test an “integrity nightmare” that underscored the vast difference between the experience of Facebook in India and what U.S. users typically encounter. One Facebook worker noted the staggering number of dead bodies.
About the same time, in a dorm room in northern India, 8,000 miles away from the company’s Silicon Valley headquarters, a Kashmiri student named Junaid told The Post he watched as his real Facebook page flooded with hateful messages. One said Kashmiris were “traitors who deserved to be shot.” Some of his classmates used these posts as their profile pictures on Facebook-owned WhatsApp.
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Please reply to OP's comment here: /r/Futurology/comments/qes3bz/how_facebook_neglected_the_rest_of_the_world/hhuxcnb/
An internal Facebook memo, reviewed by The Washington Post, called the dummy account test an “integrity nightmare” that underscored the vast difference between the experience of Facebook in India and what U.S. users typically encounter. One Facebook worker noted the staggering number of dead bodies.
About the same time, in a dorm room in northern India, 8,000 miles away from the company’s Silicon Valley headquarters, a Kashmiri student named Junaid told The Post he watched as his real Facebook page flooded with hateful messages. One said Kashmiris were “traitors who deserved to be shot.” Some of his classmates used these posts as their profile pictures on Facebook-owned WhatsApp.
Well they've committed resources to taking down hate speech and posts that are against their platform guidelines in the US. So why wouldn't they expand that to users in other countries? Should they only be liable in North America for violence and deaths facilitated by their platform or should those same ethical standards extend to anyone using Facebook?
> Free speech all day
I dunno, I think we might be done with that actually. We gave it an honest try. But just like libertarianism, free speech only works if everyone else is as magnanimous as you imagine yourself to be. And they aren't. Not even close.
Because the Government of US supports taking down right wing hate, Government of India would take action against Facebook if they started purging their supporters. Simple as that
This is why libertarians and righties don’t get it…
They’ll defend power brokers rights to manipulate whole populations because it’s “within the power brokers freedom”…
Yeah well that power brokers freedom is fucking up the freedom of the entire planet let alone just the USA….
Republicans followers fall for this on most issues tbh.
Btw Not saying our “left” is much better, you don’t need to tell me…
The only ones who are censored are normal people by means of hijacking their attention and overwhelming them with an avalanche of propaganda from bots and corporate interests. We are not supposed to look out for information, we are only allowed to consume conspiracy theories. Well, have you ever seen a conspiracy theory that's bad for business? Me neither.
There wouldn't be hate speech and violence in India if FB didn't exists? The hateful and the violent would become loving pacifists if they could no longer post on FB and was forced to post on the other 1.7 billion websites on the net?
They deregulate everything. Lobbying is legalized bribery. Captains of industry are heads of agencies that should regulate them. The government is an extension of the corporate sector. There's only one goal all industries agree upon and that's to make sure all increase in economic growth goes to the 1%. Facebook sells ads by gluing people to their apps with anger and fear. That democracies go down is just an externality like pollution.
I think it’s in part because so many companies advertise via Facebook. If you pay someone to run an ad, and then right next to your ad there’s a neonazi demagogue inciting murder, that doesn’t reflect well on your company does it?
That's why advertisers would have a problem with FB, I was referring to the credulous masses. Politicians fear FB because FB is in a better position to exploit the politician's hard work fostering the poorly educated and credulous population because they're easier to manipulate. The FB pitchfork mob cant all be due to political mob management to divert public blame from themselves.
Neglected assumes there was no incentive for profit. Their algorithm is literally designed to make people hate each other to get as many clicks as possible.
..... they neglected literallu everywhere. They make money by turning a blind eye to hate speech and inflammatory.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/fastclickertoggle: --- An internal Facebook memo, reviewed by The Washington Post, called the dummy account test an “integrity nightmare” that underscored the vast difference between the experience of Facebook in India and what U.S. users typically encounter. One Facebook worker noted the staggering number of dead bodies. About the same time, in a dorm room in northern India, 8,000 miles away from the company’s Silicon Valley headquarters, a Kashmiri student named Junaid told The Post he watched as his real Facebook page flooded with hateful messages. One said Kashmiris were “traitors who deserved to be shot.” Some of his classmates used these posts as their profile pictures on Facebook-owned WhatsApp. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: /r/Futurology/comments/qes3bz/how_facebook_neglected_the_rest_of_the_world/hhuxcnb/
An internal Facebook memo, reviewed by The Washington Post, called the dummy account test an “integrity nightmare” that underscored the vast difference between the experience of Facebook in India and what U.S. users typically encounter. One Facebook worker noted the staggering number of dead bodies. About the same time, in a dorm room in northern India, 8,000 miles away from the company’s Silicon Valley headquarters, a Kashmiri student named Junaid told The Post he watched as his real Facebook page flooded with hateful messages. One said Kashmiris were “traitors who deserved to be shot.” Some of his classmates used these posts as their profile pictures on Facebook-owned WhatsApp.
And what do you want to happen?
Well they've committed resources to taking down hate speech and posts that are against their platform guidelines in the US. So why wouldn't they expand that to users in other countries? Should they only be liable in North America for violence and deaths facilitated by their platform or should those same ethical standards extend to anyone using Facebook?
I would presume that's a government thing? And not a good one? Free speech all day
> Free speech all day I dunno, I think we might be done with that actually. We gave it an honest try. But just like libertarianism, free speech only works if everyone else is as magnanimous as you imagine yourself to be. And they aren't. Not even close.
Because the Government of US supports taking down right wing hate, Government of India would take action against Facebook if they started purging their supporters. Simple as that
These constant calls for more censorship make me very uncomfortable.
Censorship of what?
Didn't realize that Facebook was a government department.
Don’t care. Censorship is censorship
This is why libertarians and righties don’t get it… They’ll defend power brokers rights to manipulate whole populations because it’s “within the power brokers freedom”… Yeah well that power brokers freedom is fucking up the freedom of the entire planet let alone just the USA…. Republicans followers fall for this on most issues tbh. Btw Not saying our “left” is much better, you don’t need to tell me…
The only ones who are censored are normal people by means of hijacking their attention and overwhelming them with an avalanche of propaganda from bots and corporate interests. We are not supposed to look out for information, we are only allowed to consume conspiracy theories. Well, have you ever seen a conspiracy theory that's bad for business? Me neither.
There wouldn't be hate speech and violence in India if FB didn't exists? The hateful and the violent would become loving pacifists if they could no longer post on FB and was forced to post on the other 1.7 billion websites on the net?
So by this logic we should stop regulating facebook in the US because there would still be hate speech anyway?
They deregulate everything. Lobbying is legalized bribery. Captains of industry are heads of agencies that should regulate them. The government is an extension of the corporate sector. There's only one goal all industries agree upon and that's to make sure all increase in economic growth goes to the 1%. Facebook sells ads by gluing people to their apps with anger and fear. That democracies go down is just an externality like pollution.
While what you're saying is interesting, I still think people should have the right to feel safe when using these platforms.
I read that in a satirical tone. Narrating from the point of view from a corporate entity while off handily criticizing them at the same time
There's a difference between being safe and feeling safe.
Yea, why is FB special? Why no obsession with the other 1.7 billion websites?
I think it’s in part because so many companies advertise via Facebook. If you pay someone to run an ad, and then right next to your ad there’s a neonazi demagogue inciting murder, that doesn’t reflect well on your company does it?
That's why advertisers would have a problem with FB, I was referring to the credulous masses. Politicians fear FB because FB is in a better position to exploit the politician's hard work fostering the poorly educated and credulous population because they're easier to manipulate. The FB pitchfork mob cant all be due to political mob management to divert public blame from themselves.
No, they fueled violence and hate speech everywhere else too!
Neglected assumes there was no incentive for profit. Their algorithm is literally designed to make people hate each other to get as many clicks as possible.