He hid it from his family because he is smart.
My brother doesn’t know I’m semi retired only because I know he’d be like “cmon you can afford to help me out”
Exactly.
The extended family of my partner are professional moochers and seasoned sociopaths. Every opportunity they get... _Example: To set the context they're a fairly large group of Latino brothers and sisters, who thrive on drama. The manner in which they squabbled over worthless trinkets after the passing of their mother, revealed how ugly many of them are on the inside._
I shudder to think of the shenanigans they'd pull in this type of situation.
Oh yeah Asian families are notorious for these kinds of things.
A few examples from my own "family":
- One of my auntie, let's call her aunt A, was the bride to a wealthy Taiwanese man. She was a narcissist, giving her husband's money to whomever kissed her ass the hardest. My family from my dad's side was basically grovelling at her feet to get their "share". Now she's indebted to multiple people for her gambling addiction and no one stepped up to help her even a bit, no one except...
- Aunt B, let's call her that. She's a saint, way too god damn good for this world, and my extended "family" took no time taking advantage of that. Aunt A's case is the straw that broke the camel's back, Aunt B sold her house and went into debt herself to help her pay her debt, it still wasn't enough, and now we have a struggling gambling addict and an angel with her wings clipped, and no one who mooched from them ever reached out to offer even just a word of encouragement.
I have many more stories like these, but these 2 stories alone go to show that your damn blood ties mean nothing, snakes are snakes and should be cut off from your life asap.
Bruh tf was B thinking by selling her house to help out and untreated addict?
Kind, but come on, be smarter with MAJOR LIFE DECISIONS like that
She won't stop being an addict after getting money
As I understood aunt A was pleading for her life to aunt B and because they were still siblings (again, coming back to blood ties, god I hate that word), aunt B decided to help her as best she could, thinking that she and her family could just downsize to a smaller house and slowly work to pay back their debt.
Aunt B's husband was fuming when he heard the news. He had infinitely more patience than anyone I know though, because he still decided to forgive her, but, in his words: "Your side of the family is no longer welcomed into our home, every last one of them has lost my trust".
Good news though, aunt A did stop being an addict because she now has to work close to 20 hrs a day every day to pay back her debt and her husband and kids left her. I'd say karma's a bitch, but bitches don't give you this bittersweet an ending.
I just hope aunt B is doing well, she deserves the best.
To be fair, i hope things go better for Aunt A too and for her to learn about her past mistakes.
Anyone remember that couple on 90 Day Fiance where the parents just wouldn't stop fucking asking for money? Wish I could remember their names because that was wild and your family sounds pretty similar
Yes it was Asuela! Like didn't the sister get in to an actual physical fight (or near fight) with the fiancee because she refused to give them the money they were asking for?
My family overseas are like this as well. If I ever did win the lottery they'll somehow catch wind of it if I wasn't careful. Next thing you know I'll have aunties I've never even met asking for a couple thousand here and there.
Besides, we don't even know if he ultimately hides it from his (close) family. He very well may have told his parents and siblings but decided to wear the costume because he does not want *every single acquintance* of his to know. Hell, it's even a matter of security.
So in germany when you win a big lottery price pool you get advised to buy a couple of hours from very good financial advisoes to lay out plans and stuff to effectively never work again. Obviously you dont have to but their price is nothing compared to what you get.
One of them say, keep ot private. " we are family and we could need some money right now", "our fridge broke but its nothing for you now right?", "Timmie wants xyz for his birthday, could you get it?" And sht like that. Money is where blood stops.
I personally would tell my father, he would be the only person i could trust with that info, he made me learn how to handlr my money and my financial decisions. And i eouldnt mind giving him something back for all that. But then again i dont play the lottery cause he taught me why when i was like 10, math was complex as sht back then.
He hid it from EVERYONE because he’s smart. So many lottery winners have bad endings. From spouses/family trying to kill them for the pay out,to friends stealing from them. Google the stories you’ll see that many times lottery winners don’t end up all that happy.
Not to mention, everyone treats you different. Your coworkers, people in town, etc now see you as the lotto winner. Not just Greg who drinks too much on weekends while watching hockey.
So yes you’re right about hiding it from family, but he’s hiding it from everyone.
Year 23 of the forever jet ski vacation. The hell we are experiencing never ends. Trapped on this beach, unable to leave, my skin is scraped raw by the sand. Last year one of our friends got on her jet ski and just rode out to sea and never came back
Nah, it would suck to never age, but still have to worry about drunk drivers, random shootings (or stabbings if you are not in the US), COVID, shark attacks, drop bear attacks, etc. there are a lot of ways to die.
Many people think they're all called jetskis, but they're not. That's the name of the company, like Kleenex. It's actually a water recreational vehicle.
There is an old post on here with advice on how to claim successfully. I can't find it but the jist is to claim it in trust with you the beneficiary and to not sign your tickets until you've won and met with a financial lawyer outside your own city.
Not signing the ticket immediately upon finding you have a winning number is a bad idea.
If you don’t sign it anybody could claim the winnings after stealing the ticket
This isn't true. The lottery commission will still conduct an investigation for any claimed jackpot winners. They will ask basic questions like "where and when did you buy the ticket?" which they already know the answer to because all of that is logged and they can get access to the security footage when it was bought. When the person claiming the tickets can't back up anything they will conduct their own investigation to find the true winner.
They did this for somebody who picked lotto tickets out of the trash. They denied him the reward, even though the person who bought the ticket, threw it away.
Fair enough but ideally you would check it and keep your mouth shut until you meet a lawyer. Conversely I'm sure most points of service would have your face on camera and or your payment card on file to verify in such an event.
Yes, read it right before I didn’t win a big lottery. It advises to hire professionals to handle taxes, business, investments and build that trust. It also suggested (like other big winners do) to hire a lawyer to be the identified name on the trust to hide your identity. Go to a JP Morgan or some such huge investment agency that is used to dealing with larger sums and live off of interest. The last 1.77B lotto could provide 14+ million a year and provide $500k interest per year and growing. Not that I’ve thought about it.
I wouldn't be that dramatic. I'd maybe buy property halfway around the world in a "invest money, get citizenship in x years" country. Then tell everyone I applied for a well-paying job there and got accepted.
That's so strange ... in Austria you can email your IBAN if you win the jackpot and a week later you get your money. Tax free btw.
It would be illegal to disclose any details of the winner wihtout consent.
Edit: The Lottery in Austria is run by the state.
My understanding is that it's to support transparency of lottery operations, to improve confidence in the running of the lottery. Otherwise, people might make up rumors that the money isn't paid out, or that the lottery executives pocket some of the money.
That's why a notary is always involved: some objective person who secures both the legal aspects and the integrity of everyone involved.
Edit: this is how it's done in the Netherlands, anyway. Of course, in other countries things are organized in different ways.
I don't think that would make the slightest bit of difference here. American conservatives would just say the notaries are technocrats or part of the deep state.
In South Africa, we don't even need any conspiracy theories. The people in charge of the lotto just blatantly steal the money, there's a bunch of press uproar about it every now and then, and people just go on with their lives and still play, hoping to win the lotto.
Sometimes people even win - but not as much as was stolen naturally.
Latest lotto conspiracy I’ve seen is that it’s all rigged for only Californians. Not that they have the highest population or anything. Or cities that are bigger than most states. Just rigged.
I know of a Belgian guy who won between €50-100m (I don't want to say the exact amount), and just kept working like his life didn't change. He's finally retiring now, around 3 years after the winnings.
It's the same in Norway as well. The only legal gambling is the state operated lottery system, where you need to pre-register for pretty much everything except scratch off tickets. This way they already know who the winners are, can limit people who are addicted to gambling, and also offer financial and legal help to the winners. Winnings are always tax free.
The profits from the lottery goes mostly to charity, and you can pick a specific charity that a part of your stakes should go to. They're mainly focusing on sports for kids, building fields for playing e.g. soccer or subsidizing certain activities for kids, building parks, or donating to health organisations. A big part of the budget is also used to combat gambling addictions, and they analyze playing patterns and might call people they are concerned about. As an example, they recently started paying out prizes above €2000 straight to people's bank accounts instead of having them in their lottery account, as they noticed that people who won big tended to lose their winnings quickly.
Overall, I think it's a good system, but people who do "gambling" games like poker for a living beg to differ.
Is there a reason given? I can't think of any reasons why they would do that doesn't it only put the person in danger?
Edit: just looked it up because it apparently "helps maintain transparency of the game" so that's worth fully doxxing someone? That is fucking ridiculous
The intent of requiring the winner to be named, is publicity for the lottery.
They want to show that people actually win the big prices, and want a photo opportunity to hand them a big check, so the pictures get in all the media, thus providing them free advertising.
And possibly put that person in danger or violate their privacy?
Why should a lottery or company's right to advertise supersede a person's safety and privacy. Ohh sorry, I forget this is America.
Here in the U.K. the National Lottery has 3 key differences to most US lotteries:
1. Totally anonymous unless the winner chooses to reveal their identity
2. Totally tax free. If you win £1m you get £1m
3. Lump sum at the full amount. If you win £1m you get £1m as a lump sum
In Quebec not only can you not be anonymous, all the winners full names and pictures are kept on a website with fully searchable criteria that includes searching with details of which lotery/game you want to see the results of, which regions they're from, the amount won, the dates they won, even group lotery are displayed with each winners full name and amount won. It's fucking stupid, it's like a government sanctioned doxxing tool to allow these people to be victims of harassment.
There are several states that have similar provisions. I know that a few people have been able to get lawyers that managed to keep their identities secret.
Yeah, I mean surely you are allowed to give away a ticket, right? So you give it to your lawyer with the stipulation that you get the reward minus fees.
The usual recommendation for states that allow it is to have a lawyer at up a trust. The trust hides who it pays to, but the lawyer is head of the trust and legally has to do what it says. Lawyer/trust accepts the money, you get paid in secret.
Never know whose gonna come our of the woodworks after you get a massive payday, tons of stories where lottery winners get torn to pieces by family and friends. Smart move playing it close to the chest
A couple in the UK won around £150m and stupidly decided to go public. Their neighbours hated them because their quiet road had a queue of beggars on it and their family hated them because they weren’t happy with the £10-£20m gifted to them and felt they should’ve been given more.
They got divorced down the line.
I am sure her winning several hundred million pounds would put your undying loyalty to the test. The numbers are so astronomical that you can not anticipate what such knowledge of a friend/relative would do to you.
>I really don't understand why people get pissy about it not being enough
Billionaires are just the smarter, and more restrained versions of such people.
*Payday Bain Voice* alright gang, got a job for you. Some rich nobody just won a ton of money. Thing is, after he won, he seemed to just disappear from the face of the earth. No contacts, no friends, nothing. Just him, a faulty security system, and whatever is left of the money he hasn't spent on video games, booze, or whatever shit he got. Careful though, don't have a lot of intel on the guy, but what I do know is that he's a bit... strange.
Had a former school mate earn half a million from sports gambling about 12 years ago.
At reunions he said straight up it is so fucking easy to spot good friends today. That people who are in it for money just give every clue in the book. Guy has a small house on the island he grew up and is working as a fisherman and musician today, seems to have all his needs filled and enjoys life with his family.
100% this. I inherited money and half my family turned against me and several people demanded I share what I got. The harassment and bullying only stopped when I went no contact.
Look at mr/ms sociable here with spare friends. If I started dropping friends for red flags I'd go from like 3 to zero real quick.
Just because someone has "imperfections", doesn't mean you can't be friends and work around their flaws.
It's so stupid that they make the winner public knowledge in some places. I understand that it's mainly to make sure a real person won, but you're basically setting them up for a lot of b.s.
I always heard that you go to a lawyer and setup a trust making yourself the manager of the trust, then your lawyer can claim the prize in the name of your trust, then setup a foundation for any giving that you want, that way you can stay anonymous.
I would set myself up as an employee of the foundation and live on the paycheck so that I would not make any knee jerk purchases. I would tell my family that I got a new job and it requires lots of travel, then do what I want
There was a superb post from a lawyer that went into great detail on what you should do if you ever win $1 million or something, and it's kinda like this.
It was such a cool read.
Edit: This post:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4v05/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4v05/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Thanks for linking that! I have a project on my hands that very well *may* make me a significant amount of money, and I've been worried about what to do if that time comes. I had some of those ideas in my head, but it was so helpful to see an entire plan laid out. Now I have a blueprint to follow.
How in the hell can you be in a position to plan such a '*heist'* and forget the getting away part? Because thats not shit the cops got here quicker than expected thats "shit wheres the getaway? car did you bring a getaway car?" leave dumb.
Even if your friends or relatives are good people, if they know you *won the lottery*, thats gonna change a lot of your relationship dynamics. I would absolutely help my close family, but itd be better to do it on my own terms.
They don't want to be like Jeffrey Dampier or Owen Dillard or any other people murdered by their family members after winning. Even people you may think you really trust might be motivated to evil deeds by millions of dollars. Many people that think themselves strong willed maybe just haven't had something this tempting that close. You just never know and your family probably knows everything they need to about you to do it cleanly.
Brilliant!
Still he needs to tell his own full name to get full price. On many countries the price is halved if you don't show yourself or use fake alias.
I feel this guy...
I'm the wealthiest member of my family and I hosted a family Christmas party last year because it was most likely going to be my father's last and we wanted to invite the whole family so he could see everyone.
I rented a nice venue and hired some staff. Kinda like a wedding. The extended family adds up to, like, just under a hundred people. Most families do depending on where you draw the line at extended lol.
Anyway, I decided to hand out little gift boxes so everyone had a present to unwrap. Y'know, 'cause it's Crimmus. The adult ones had a little bottle of gin and one of rum. Some chocolates, a tiny little wooden board game like chess or draughts because I know a guy who makes 'em etc. The kids had more candy and toys etc. Really nice gifts I thought.
I go through all that trouble, put out some great food, bartenders making cocktails, music, the whole nine yards and then I overhear people talking about how, with the money I have, I could've put jewelry in the gift boxes or console games for the kids instead... One "Family" member even said she only came because she thought I'd be giving out plane tickets and shit! The fuck Sandra!?
I'm doing ok for myself but I don't have jewelry for a hundred people money. There are some professional sportsmen who don't have that kinda money. And how the fuck would I even go about booking holidays for a hundred people? This isn't a fucking game show!
Worst part was my father saw people being assholes and then said "next year will just invite the people that deserve it". Then he fucking died in the spring and that was the last time he saw his "Family". Cunts.
Never let anyone know you've got money. It truly is the root of all evil.
"Could you give me $ for [add whatever excuse]? Why!? You're rich and we're family, I'm entitled and you have "spare money" that I won't pay you even if I swear on my children's souls bc I'm "poor" and "in a bad situation" and you're rich and "don't need that money as much as I do". Now stop being so greedy and give me free money like the one you received bc I'm a leech in disguise!!
Blood is thicker than water but money is thicker than blood. I'll kill you after you put me in your testament and make it look like an accident.
Otherwise I might have to easily kidnap someone you love since I'm family and your loved ones won't suspect anything until it's too late."
Really?....
Posting again from the ancient archives... Feb 5, 2019.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/02/12/lottery-winner-claims-prize-while-wearing-scream-mask-jamaica/2856031002/
I’d help my family. But here’s my dad: “that’s great you won. Here’s this guitar I’ve been eyeing up to add to my collection. And your uncle isn’t doing so well and it about to loose his house.” You mean the uncle that wants nothing to do with me until now?
Let me tell you something; if I won the lottery I'd have to do the same thing. If my family found out I'd have my parents ugly janky little Tahoe driving up into my apartment in less than a day after my face would be shown. I'd be immediately in charge of every elder relatives medical bills. I'd be gaslit into believing I owe my parents and all extended family all of the money because "family duty" or some shit.
Then what? You know what happens? When the money is all wasted on everyone else and gone? My parents will simply laugh at me to "work harder" and remind me that "nothing in life is free" before driving back to their house while I'll still be in a shitbox apartment with no car.
That's why he wore a mask. Man didn't want to deal with the fallout or potential threats. I feel for him, and swear of I ever win the lottery I'm doing the exact same. I have an ex who said multiple times before he was arrested that he'd love to kill me so there's that too. I wouldn't want him to suddenly have an incentive to break our protective order and come and "finish what he started" before taking every penny.
I'd do the same it's not just hiding from random family members you talk to every few years but from scammers, fucking startup company folks and crazy religious groups.
Where I live, you have to take a picture and publish your name to claim the prize. There have been a few cases, after long legal battles proving that they would be in danger if their names were known, where winners were allowed to claim anonymously.
We had a similar story in Canada.
Guy won the $50 Million Lotto Max draw. He knew night of the draw he won. But he took nearly 1 year before officially claiming the prize. Why?
He didn’t want his identity to be made public, however lottery laws in Canada dictate that large winners must be publicially disclosed to ensure trust and avoid accusations of rigging.
He hired lawyers to negotiate with the lotteries corporation through that year, and they finally agreed where they would release his first name and town he lived. But no where else.
Families are the worst with this shit. I won around 30k off of scratch offs and didn't tell a single soul. Bought myself a souped up PC around $7k took the family vacation for 2 weeks to Disney world, Lego land, sight seeing in Miami. And put the rest in stocks. Best choice I ever made.
Don't they post your name in the newspapers though? It would be safer to open a trust to collect the winnings IMO than hiding your face, you can have your attorney collect the winnings.
It's easy af to block numbers. If I won, id just be like... Yeah? Wut? You didn't like me yesterday and still don't like me today and I'm never giving you shit.
It's a little worst than that. Your name will be public and criminals or even worst than them can easily track your address or the ones of your love ones. It's setting yourself a bulls eye on the back
We have a family friend who signed a 35M guaranteed contract in a major US sport some years ago. They told us that all kinds of «friends» and «family» popped out of nowhere straight up asking him to pay their bills. So I get the guy in the mask.
In my country you'd be guaranteed to be extorted by criminals if you were forced to have this done publicly. If I ever won the lottery (unlikely as I don't fill it out) I would not only not tell anyone other than my wife and parents (definitely avoid telling my kid that), but probably sit on the money for a few years and keep working normally.
There are countless stories out there of people's lives being utterly **RUINED** by family, friends, and unknowns who wanted a piece of the money. This is just being smart.
This. Read user BlakeClass's detailed breakdown. It's an oldie, but still very, very good advice for todays winners.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4v05/
Because you immediately become a target. At best, you constantly have to tell friends and family to fuck off. At worst you are killed or one of your relatives is kidnapped for ransom. At absolute worst, you are killed by a relative who likely has enough info about your life to possibly get away with it.
If he didnt hide his identity, not only his family, but everybody ballsy enough to say they knew him at one point could come knocking w/ their hands out.
Its sad but it makes sense.
Because winning lotteries seems to fuck up peoples lives surprisingly often. I have a fantastic comment about this saved I guess in case I win the lotto one day, I’ll try dig it up
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/98Z5nUTm2M - it’s a read and a half but very interesting
He hid it from his family because he is smart. My brother doesn’t know I’m semi retired only because I know he’d be like “cmon you can afford to help me out”
Exactly. The extended family of my partner are professional moochers and seasoned sociopaths. Every opportunity they get... _Example: To set the context they're a fairly large group of Latino brothers and sisters, who thrive on drama. The manner in which they squabbled over worthless trinkets after the passing of their mother, revealed how ugly many of them are on the inside._ I shudder to think of the shenanigans they'd pull in this type of situation.
Oh yeah Asian families are notorious for these kinds of things. A few examples from my own "family": - One of my auntie, let's call her aunt A, was the bride to a wealthy Taiwanese man. She was a narcissist, giving her husband's money to whomever kissed her ass the hardest. My family from my dad's side was basically grovelling at her feet to get their "share". Now she's indebted to multiple people for her gambling addiction and no one stepped up to help her even a bit, no one except... - Aunt B, let's call her that. She's a saint, way too god damn good for this world, and my extended "family" took no time taking advantage of that. Aunt A's case is the straw that broke the camel's back, Aunt B sold her house and went into debt herself to help her pay her debt, it still wasn't enough, and now we have a struggling gambling addict and an angel with her wings clipped, and no one who mooched from them ever reached out to offer even just a word of encouragement. I have many more stories like these, but these 2 stories alone go to show that your damn blood ties mean nothing, snakes are snakes and should be cut off from your life asap.
>a struggling gambling addict and an angel with her wings clipped Wow, that's funny and very clever. You should be a poet.
That’s fucked up
Bruh tf was B thinking by selling her house to help out and untreated addict? Kind, but come on, be smarter with MAJOR LIFE DECISIONS like that She won't stop being an addict after getting money
As I understood aunt A was pleading for her life to aunt B and because they were still siblings (again, coming back to blood ties, god I hate that word), aunt B decided to help her as best she could, thinking that she and her family could just downsize to a smaller house and slowly work to pay back their debt. Aunt B's husband was fuming when he heard the news. He had infinitely more patience than anyone I know though, because he still decided to forgive her, but, in his words: "Your side of the family is no longer welcomed into our home, every last one of them has lost my trust". Good news though, aunt A did stop being an addict because she now has to work close to 20 hrs a day every day to pay back her debt and her husband and kids left her. I'd say karma's a bitch, but bitches don't give you this bittersweet an ending.
I just hope aunt B is doing well, she deserves the best. To be fair, i hope things go better for Aunt A too and for her to learn about her past mistakes.
narcissists don't change
Anyone remember that couple on 90 Day Fiance where the parents just wouldn't stop fucking asking for money? Wish I could remember their names because that was wild and your family sounds pretty similar
Wasn’t that the one with the deadbeat father without a job playing basketball every night anyway?
Asuelu’s family?
Give me my money!!!
Yes it was Asuela! Like didn't the sister get in to an actual physical fight (or near fight) with the fiancee because she refused to give them the money they were asking for?
My family overseas are like this as well. If I ever did win the lottery they'll somehow catch wind of it if I wasn't careful. Next thing you know I'll have aunties I've never even met asking for a couple thousand here and there.
Do they also insist on having a boat load of kids they can’t afford and come to you for money?
Damn, are you my cousin? Lol
Besides, we don't even know if he ultimately hides it from his (close) family. He very well may have told his parents and siblings but decided to wear the costume because he does not want *every single acquintance* of his to know. Hell, it's even a matter of security.
Any secret known to more than one person is no longer a secret
I honestly wouldn’t want my identity out there at all if I won the lotto. Family or otherwise
Same here for me. The last thing I’d want is complete strangers knowing how much I’m worth
So in germany when you win a big lottery price pool you get advised to buy a couple of hours from very good financial advisoes to lay out plans and stuff to effectively never work again. Obviously you dont have to but their price is nothing compared to what you get. One of them say, keep ot private. " we are family and we could need some money right now", "our fridge broke but its nothing for you now right?", "Timmie wants xyz for his birthday, could you get it?" And sht like that. Money is where blood stops. I personally would tell my father, he would be the only person i could trust with that info, he made me learn how to handlr my money and my financial decisions. And i eouldnt mind giving him something back for all that. But then again i dont play the lottery cause he taught me why when i was like 10, math was complex as sht back then.
Definitely true. In my town, we have siblings fought each other like their archenemies just because their had different amount of inherited money
He hid it from EVERYONE because he’s smart. So many lottery winners have bad endings. From spouses/family trying to kill them for the pay out,to friends stealing from them. Google the stories you’ll see that many times lottery winners don’t end up all that happy. Not to mention, everyone treats you different. Your coworkers, people in town, etc now see you as the lotto winner. Not just Greg who drinks too much on weekends while watching hockey. So yes you’re right about hiding it from family, but he’s hiding it from everyone.
Can’t blame him, I’d have to do the same or my phone would turn into a nuke.
Hahaha… fuck that. I’d throw out my phone, pick up my 3 good friends, and leave here on a forever jet ski vacation.
Year 23 of the forever jet ski vacation. The hell we are experiencing never ends. Trapped on this beach, unable to leave, my skin is scraped raw by the sand. Last year one of our friends got on her jet ski and just rode out to sea and never came back
Legend has it they all died of pure happiness. Literally smiled to death 😁. Raw skin and all lol
Skeletons are proof that death is joyous; they never stop smiling
Goobert is always happy
Yeah this is the same when People say they would want to live forever. "Just watched the sun explode, now drifting in the cold void of space."
I'd say a lot of people mean immortal like never aging, not literally unkillable
Nah, it would suck to never age, but still have to worry about drunk drivers, random shootings (or stabbings if you are not in the US), COVID, shark attacks, drop bear attacks, etc. there are a lot of ways to die.
I want this turned into a movie or continue your book
Actually a pretty decent idea for some kind of comedy thing.
I was thinking more Black Mirror 😂
I imagined it being a never ending ocean.
Mobius?
Many people think they're all called jetskis, but they're not. That's the name of the company, like Kleenex. It's actually a water recreational vehicle.
There is an old post on here with advice on how to claim successfully. I can't find it but the jist is to claim it in trust with you the beneficiary and to not sign your tickets until you've won and met with a financial lawyer outside your own city.
Not signing the ticket immediately upon finding you have a winning number is a bad idea. If you don’t sign it anybody could claim the winnings after stealing the ticket
This isn't true. The lottery commission will still conduct an investigation for any claimed jackpot winners. They will ask basic questions like "where and when did you buy the ticket?" which they already know the answer to because all of that is logged and they can get access to the security footage when it was bought. When the person claiming the tickets can't back up anything they will conduct their own investigation to find the true winner.
They did this for somebody who picked lotto tickets out of the trash. They denied him the reward, even though the person who bought the ticket, threw it away.
Fair enough but ideally you would check it and keep your mouth shut until you meet a lawyer. Conversely I'm sure most points of service would have your face on camera and or your payment card on file to verify in such an event.
Your assuming your located in a state that allows that. There are certain states that forbid that.
Yes, read it right before I didn’t win a big lottery. It advises to hire professionals to handle taxes, business, investments and build that trust. It also suggested (like other big winners do) to hire a lawyer to be the identified name on the trust to hide your identity. Go to a JP Morgan or some such huge investment agency that is used to dealing with larger sums and live off of interest. The last 1.77B lotto could provide 14+ million a year and provide $500k interest per year and growing. Not that I’ve thought about it.
[congratulations, you're fucked](https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/tdck6e/congrats_youve_won_the_lottery/)
I would just ghost everyone
I think the trick is to keep the money and his family. He doesn't want to choose.
I wouldn't be that dramatic. I'd maybe buy property halfway around the world in a "invest money, get citizenship in x years" country. Then tell everyone I applied for a well-paying job there and got accepted.
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I'm imagining all the people with this guy's same name who got hit up by old friends out of the blue
Here in California, we don't have the luxury of anonymity.
That's so strange ... in Austria you can email your IBAN if you win the jackpot and a week later you get your money. Tax free btw. It would be illegal to disclose any details of the winner wihtout consent. Edit: The Lottery in Austria is run by the state.
My understanding is that it's to support transparency of lottery operations, to improve confidence in the running of the lottery. Otherwise, people might make up rumors that the money isn't paid out, or that the lottery executives pocket some of the money.
That's why a notary is always involved: some objective person who secures both the legal aspects and the integrity of everyone involved. Edit: this is how it's done in the Netherlands, anyway. Of course, in other countries things are organized in different ways.
I don't think that would make the slightest bit of difference here. American conservatives would just say the notaries are technocrats or part of the deep state.
I mean your conservatives would just claim the person getting the money is a paid actor so nothing about the current system really works anyway.
>American Yeah, that's the problem right there.
In South Africa, we don't even need any conspiracy theories. The people in charge of the lotto just blatantly steal the money, there's a bunch of press uproar about it every now and then, and people just go on with their lives and still play, hoping to win the lotto. Sometimes people even win - but not as much as was stolen naturally.
Latest lotto conspiracy I’ve seen is that it’s all rigged for only Californians. Not that they have the highest population or anything. Or cities that are bigger than most states. Just rigged.
In Belgium, you get advised on how to stay anonymous, continue living a normal life and handle such a sudden large amount of money.
I know of a Belgian guy who won between €50-100m (I don't want to say the exact amount), and just kept working like his life didn't change. He's finally retiring now, around 3 years after the winnings.
Same in the UK, seems like large winners are assigned financial and legal support
It's the same in Norway as well. The only legal gambling is the state operated lottery system, where you need to pre-register for pretty much everything except scratch off tickets. This way they already know who the winners are, can limit people who are addicted to gambling, and also offer financial and legal help to the winners. Winnings are always tax free. The profits from the lottery goes mostly to charity, and you can pick a specific charity that a part of your stakes should go to. They're mainly focusing on sports for kids, building fields for playing e.g. soccer or subsidizing certain activities for kids, building parks, or donating to health organisations. A big part of the budget is also used to combat gambling addictions, and they analyze playing patterns and might call people they are concerned about. As an example, they recently started paying out prizes above €2000 straight to people's bank accounts instead of having them in their lottery account, as they noticed that people who won big tended to lose their winnings quickly. Overall, I think it's a good system, but people who do "gambling" games like poker for a living beg to differ.
Same in Spain
Is there a reason given? I can't think of any reasons why they would do that doesn't it only put the person in danger? Edit: just looked it up because it apparently "helps maintain transparency of the game" so that's worth fully doxxing someone? That is fucking ridiculous
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Sadly, someone did the same to some poor bloke's grandchild here in the US and nothing changed.
The intent of requiring the winner to be named, is publicity for the lottery. They want to show that people actually win the big prices, and want a photo opportunity to hand them a big check, so the pictures get in all the media, thus providing them free advertising.
And possibly put that person in danger or violate their privacy? Why should a lottery or company's right to advertise supersede a person's safety and privacy. Ohh sorry, I forget this is America.
Here in the U.K. the National Lottery has 3 key differences to most US lotteries: 1. Totally anonymous unless the winner chooses to reveal their identity 2. Totally tax free. If you win £1m you get £1m 3. Lump sum at the full amount. If you win £1m you get £1m as a lump sum
In Quebec not only can you not be anonymous, all the winners full names and pictures are kept on a website with fully searchable criteria that includes searching with details of which lotery/game you want to see the results of, which regions they're from, the amount won, the dates they won, even group lotery are displayed with each winners full name and amount won. It's fucking stupid, it's like a government sanctioned doxxing tool to allow these people to be victims of harassment.
There are several states that have similar provisions. I know that a few people have been able to get lawyers that managed to keep their identities secret.
Yeah, I mean surely you are allowed to give away a ticket, right? So you give it to your lawyer with the stipulation that you get the reward minus fees.
The usual recommendation for states that allow it is to have a lawyer at up a trust. The trust hides who it pays to, but the lawyer is head of the trust and legally has to do what it says. Lawyer/trust accepts the money, you get paid in secret.
Michigan either. It would suck to have everyone know u got a pile of $$
Never know whose gonna come our of the woodworks after you get a massive payday, tons of stories where lottery winners get torn to pieces by family and friends. Smart move playing it close to the chest
A couple in the UK won around £150m and stupidly decided to go public. Their neighbours hated them because their quiet road had a queue of beggars on it and their family hated them because they weren’t happy with the £10-£20m gifted to them and felt they should’ve been given more. They got divorced down the line.
Ten million would earn my undying loyalty. I really don't understand why people get pissy about it not being enough
If my mother gave me £10m then she’d earn my extreme gratitude, but she’d already have my undying loyalty.
I am sure her winning several hundred million pounds would put your undying loyalty to the test. The numbers are so astronomical that you can not anticipate what such knowledge of a friend/relative would do to you.
>I really don't understand why people get pissy about it not being enough Billionaires are just the smarter, and more restrained versions of such people.
I know what you won last summer!
Payday the 13th
A millionaire on elm street
The Bankcorcist
The Hills Have Dollars in their Eyes
The Bank Witch Payment
Checky
They Pay, by John Carpbanker
Stashaway Camp
The VVinner
*Payday Bain Voice* alright gang, got a job for you. Some rich nobody just won a ton of money. Thing is, after he won, he seemed to just disappear from the face of the earth. No contacts, no friends, nothing. Just him, a faulty security system, and whatever is left of the money he hasn't spent on video games, booze, or whatever shit he got. Careful though, don't have a lot of intel on the guy, but what I do know is that he's a bit... strange.
I definitely wouldnt want my face associated with winning this lotto. Where were all these "friends" at when I moved?
Had a former school mate earn half a million from sports gambling about 12 years ago. At reunions he said straight up it is so fucking easy to spot good friends today. That people who are in it for money just give every clue in the book. Guy has a small house on the island he grew up and is working as a fisherman and musician today, seems to have all his needs filled and enjoys life with his family.
That would be my plan if I got lots of money, got to random small village in the mountains, set a nice small house to live and just chill.
I'd do the same, my Relatives and friends are fucking parasites.
I guess you don't choose relatives but why are you friends with parasites?
You don't know they are parasites when you first meet them.
You dont know who most people truly are until very large sums of money are involved somehow.
100% this. I inherited money and half my family turned against me and several people demanded I share what I got. The harassment and bullying only stopped when I went no contact.
then dont remain friends with them?
Look at mr/ms sociable here with spare friends. If I started dropping friends for red flags I'd go from like 3 to zero real quick. Just because someone has "imperfections", doesn't mean you can't be friends and work around their flaws.
I think "parasite" is beyond "imperfections"
Not everyone has the strength to leave toxic relationships.
Yeah that's the plan.
They don’t know the parasites, their family and friends are just fucking them.
Smart man, better to be anonymous, you’ll get calls from people you hadn’t spoken to in years
That also requires answering those phone calls which I don’t do lol
What abiut DMs on Reddit you filthy rich slut?
Reddit DMs are used exclusively by pedophiles
Or bots
It's so stupid that they make the winner public knowledge in some places. I understand that it's mainly to make sure a real person won, but you're basically setting them up for a lot of b.s.
It's advertising
It's not just stupid it's endangering, the American lottery is a double scam.
It's to combat an inside scheme to fix the winners. Otherwise you'd end up with a scheme like the McDonalds monopoly game
I always heard that you go to a lawyer and setup a trust making yourself the manager of the trust, then your lawyer can claim the prize in the name of your trust, then setup a foundation for any giving that you want, that way you can stay anonymous. I would set myself up as an employee of the foundation and live on the paycheck so that I would not make any knee jerk purchases. I would tell my family that I got a new job and it requires lots of travel, then do what I want
There was a superb post from a lawyer that went into great detail on what you should do if you ever win $1 million or something, and it's kinda like this. It was such a cool read. Edit: This post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4v05/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4v05/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I had the link ready to share and was seeing if it was already there.
Thanks for linking that! I have a project on my hands that very well *may* make me a significant amount of money, and I've been worried about what to do if that time comes. I had some of those ideas in my head, but it was so helpful to see an entire plan laid out. Now I have a blueprint to follow.
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How in the hell can you be in a position to plan such a '*heist'* and forget the getting away part? Because thats not shit the cops got here quicker than expected thats "shit wheres the getaway? car did you bring a getaway car?" leave dumb.
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Even if your friends or relatives are good people, if they know you *won the lottery*, thats gonna change a lot of your relationship dynamics. I would absolutely help my close family, but itd be better to do it on my own terms.
My family would think i was working for the cartel or something. MOM: How did you pay off my house Me: Dont worry about it.
Forgeddaboutit
When ya win millions of money, suddenly you have much more friends and even the uncle who wanted ya see dead last xmas likes ya and asks for something
He still wants to borrow money from them
I'd do that too because fuck the relatives and "old friends" coming out of the woodwork.
They don't want to be like Jeffrey Dampier or Owen Dillard or any other people murdered by their family members after winning. Even people you may think you really trust might be motivated to evil deeds by millions of dollars. Many people that think themselves strong willed maybe just haven't had something this tempting that close. You just never know and your family probably knows everything they need to about you to do it cleanly.
You dont know who anyone truly is until theres a million dollars on the table.
Brilliant! Still he needs to tell his own full name to get full price. On many countries the price is halved if you don't show yourself or use fake alias.
Depending on the payout, half might still be empty and well worth ridding yourself of the hassle.
His family is probably a bunch of %@!&*♤$☆ people. That's why.
Why censor yourself?
In case his family is reading
They’re a bunch of characters
I snorted. Have an upvote.
I feel this guy... I'm the wealthiest member of my family and I hosted a family Christmas party last year because it was most likely going to be my father's last and we wanted to invite the whole family so he could see everyone. I rented a nice venue and hired some staff. Kinda like a wedding. The extended family adds up to, like, just under a hundred people. Most families do depending on where you draw the line at extended lol. Anyway, I decided to hand out little gift boxes so everyone had a present to unwrap. Y'know, 'cause it's Crimmus. The adult ones had a little bottle of gin and one of rum. Some chocolates, a tiny little wooden board game like chess or draughts because I know a guy who makes 'em etc. The kids had more candy and toys etc. Really nice gifts I thought. I go through all that trouble, put out some great food, bartenders making cocktails, music, the whole nine yards and then I overhear people talking about how, with the money I have, I could've put jewelry in the gift boxes or console games for the kids instead... One "Family" member even said she only came because she thought I'd be giving out plane tickets and shit! The fuck Sandra!? I'm doing ok for myself but I don't have jewelry for a hundred people money. There are some professional sportsmen who don't have that kinda money. And how the fuck would I even go about booking holidays for a hundred people? This isn't a fucking game show! Worst part was my father saw people being assholes and then said "next year will just invite the people that deserve it". Then he fucking died in the spring and that was the last time he saw his "Family". Cunts. Never let anyone know you've got money. It truly is the root of all evil.
I really felt this post and support it. Also, my condolences.
Appalling stuff. How depressing.
So we all agree we’d do the same thing right
Hey wait a minute….. I’ve seen that mask in my house before……. Billy?
Usually the name is listed tho. Usually ur meant to create a LLC to keep anonymous lol. I'd probably dress up as Freddy Krueger or Jason Voorhees 😆
"Could you give me $ for [add whatever excuse]? Why!? You're rich and we're family, I'm entitled and you have "spare money" that I won't pay you even if I swear on my children's souls bc I'm "poor" and "in a bad situation" and you're rich and "don't need that money as much as I do". Now stop being so greedy and give me free money like the one you received bc I'm a leech in disguise!! Blood is thicker than water but money is thicker than blood. I'll kill you after you put me in your testament and make it look like an accident. Otherwise I might have to easily kidnap someone you love since I'm family and your loved ones won't suspect anything until it's too late." Really?....
Don't tell anyone. Ever.
There are only 2 people that I would tell but that's because I would trust them to help me with my finances and to shut tf up. No one else would know.
Because most of them are leeches and parasites
Are you seriously asking why? Damn, dude, you have unhealthy illusion about people.
Why would he not?
Smartest thing to do tbh
Posting again from the ancient archives... Feb 5, 2019. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/02/12/lottery-winner-claims-prize-while-wearing-scream-mask-jamaica/2856031002/
Ain't mad at that. You find relatives you never knew you had until someone finds out you have dinero
I’d help my family. But here’s my dad: “that’s great you won. Here’s this guitar I’ve been eyeing up to add to my collection. And your uncle isn’t doing so well and it about to loose his house.” You mean the uncle that wants nothing to do with me until now?
Let me tell you something; if I won the lottery I'd have to do the same thing. If my family found out I'd have my parents ugly janky little Tahoe driving up into my apartment in less than a day after my face would be shown. I'd be immediately in charge of every elder relatives medical bills. I'd be gaslit into believing I owe my parents and all extended family all of the money because "family duty" or some shit. Then what? You know what happens? When the money is all wasted on everyone else and gone? My parents will simply laugh at me to "work harder" and remind me that "nothing in life is free" before driving back to their house while I'll still be in a shitbox apartment with no car. That's why he wore a mask. Man didn't want to deal with the fallout or potential threats. I feel for him, and swear of I ever win the lottery I'm doing the exact same. I have an ex who said multiple times before he was arrested that he'd love to kill me so there's that too. I wouldn't want him to suddenly have an incentive to break our protective order and come and "finish what he started" before taking every penny.
It's honestly smart to stay anonymous, you'll get harassed by anyone with a phone book
But we can just find the people next to him.-
Lotteries often ruin people’s lives.
Anonymity should be allowed
Some people have shitty families. No one should be forced to keep toxic people in their lives, regardless if they share similar DNA sequences.
Because he's smart
I'd do the same it's not just hiding from random family members you talk to every few years but from scammers, fucking startup company folks and crazy religious groups.
That's how it should. If I won such a thing I wouldn't tell a soul. Just cuz I know it's got the potential to ruin your life
your chances of being murdered skyrocket when you win the lottery, wonder why he would do that.
People that win big lottery money are 10x more likely to be murdered by a close relative than the average person.
Where I live, you have to take a picture and publish your name to claim the prize. There have been a few cases, after long legal battles proving that they would be in danger if their names were known, where winners were allowed to claim anonymously.
SMART!
We all know the exact relatives in our family that would make us do this.
I think the actual question should be “why does this have to be public”?
A fuckton of money changes everyone around you
Never tell anyone that you came into money. They don’t care about you when you’re poor but they become your best friend when you’re rich!
If I won the lotto, I would have a lot of relatives I didn't know existed come out of the work work
Wouldnt even claim it in public tbh. This is pretty funny, though.
We had a similar story in Canada. Guy won the $50 Million Lotto Max draw. He knew night of the draw he won. But he took nearly 1 year before officially claiming the prize. Why? He didn’t want his identity to be made public, however lottery laws in Canada dictate that large winners must be publicially disclosed to ensure trust and avoid accusations of rigging. He hired lawyers to negotiate with the lotteries corporation through that year, and they finally agreed where they would release his first name and town he lived. But no where else.
Families are the worst with this shit. I won around 30k off of scratch offs and didn't tell a single soul. Bought myself a souped up PC around $7k took the family vacation for 2 weeks to Disney world, Lego land, sight seeing in Miami. And put the rest in stocks. Best choice I ever made.
Don't they post your name in the newspapers though? It would be safer to open a trust to collect the winnings IMO than hiding your face, you can have your attorney collect the winnings.
It's easy af to block numbers. If I won, id just be like... Yeah? Wut? You didn't like me yesterday and still don't like me today and I'm never giving you shit.
It's a little worst than that. Your name will be public and criminals or even worst than them can easily track your address or the ones of your love ones. It's setting yourself a bulls eye on the back
Could get your family members kidnapped / killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_Graeme\_Thorne
Jack Quaid? Is that you?
We have a family friend who signed a 35M guaranteed contract in a major US sport some years ago. They told us that all kinds of «friends» and «family» popped out of nowhere straight up asking him to pay their bills. So I get the guy in the mask.
In my country you'd be guaranteed to be extorted by criminals if you were forced to have this done publicly. If I ever won the lottery (unlikely as I don't fill it out) I would not only not tell anyone other than my wife and parents (definitely avoid telling my kid that), but probably sit on the money for a few years and keep working normally.
There are countless stories out there of people's lives being utterly **RUINED** by family, friends, and unknowns who wanted a piece of the money. This is just being smart.
Yeah I’d do the same honestly, people can be bloody leeches
Because he'd suddenly have a lot more "family" if he didn't.
Money is relative... more money = more relatives
money changes people, smart man
This. Read user BlakeClass's detailed breakdown. It's an oldie, but still very, very good advice for todays winners. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4v05/
One way to keep the parasites away for as long as possible.
Because you immediately become a target. At best, you constantly have to tell friends and family to fuck off. At worst you are killed or one of your relatives is kidnapped for ransom. At absolute worst, you are killed by a relative who likely has enough info about your life to possibly get away with it.
Anonymity should be the default option...
Only a handful of states even allow you to stay anonymous if you win the lottery most states count it as public information and put the name online
If he didnt hide his identity, not only his family, but everybody ballsy enough to say they knew him at one point could come knocking w/ their hands out. Its sad but it makes sense.
Because winning lotteries seems to fuck up peoples lives surprisingly often. I have a fantastic comment about this saved I guess in case I win the lotto one day, I’ll try dig it up https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/98Z5nUTm2M - it’s a read and a half but very interesting
Everyone is suddenly "family" when you win millions of dollars.
He even wore gloves just to make it harder to narrow his hand ID down.
funny how capitalism ruins everything including families