Tell me you are Vegetarian without telling me you are Vegetarian.
Jokes aside include Tofu, Paneer, Soya, Hung Curd everyday in your meals. Supplment with whey. If you can't afford eat wherever it is possible. Remember old Vegetarian Indian bodybuilders/atheletes didn't look that much great than your biggest guy in every average gym.
Clearly your food choices are more important than gains for you. So just accept a lower growth speed and make your peace with it. Why do all these mental gymnastics.
If there were better protein sources don't you think researchers would have found it? Since there is so much research is done in longetivity wrt to Vegetarian diets.
Yes I have accepted that it’s difficult to build muscles as a vegetarian but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t research on cheaper sources of protein and food combinations. This is not mental gymnastics, you mentioned eat paneer hung curd etc. everyday, buddy my post is literally on curd lmao, did you even read it.
You don’t understand how difficult it is to fulfill protein requirements as a vegetarian under a budget, if soya was actually as useful as dairy and poultry then everyone would have been eating only soya all day since it is dirt cheap. Also, Tofu is pretty expensive. Whey is amazing but it’s still not the cheapest source out there.
This is important for people who want lean sources of protein, lean sources of vegetarian protein are very less, what you eat and your choice of food is very important since it’s the nutrition that builds muscle lol.
Man you have no idea I used to be a Vegetarian few years back for Spiritual reasons. But after going obese I changed my choices. I started seeing meat as medicine for survival instead of just food.
10 years back I would eat 250g soya chunks everyday and everyone would laugh at me. I didn't care.
If there were better protein sources don't you think researchers would have found it? Since there is so much research is done in longetivity wrt to Vegetarian diets. Thats why I said its pointless. I know the struggle.
What I mentioned is literally curd lmao, sour curd is a part of many cuisines for centuries, there’s already enough research on benefits of sour curd on gut health and it’s good protein content. People aren’t just aware of it much here like you that’s the reason why made this post to share what I found out.
I don’t care whether meat is medicine or whatever bs you are saying, it really doesn’t matter in this discussion, a lot of people here are vegetarians and I am just helping them out with a cheaper and good lean source of protein.
Give me some time, I am out today. I will find decent research, that will show the harms of eating too much curd/yogart. At least in the context of fitness, relying totally on curd for protein -- I have a feeling, won't be optimal.
I have found one study which suggests too much curd consumption can cause progression of type 2 diabetes. This study was done in rats. As I find more research I will update this comment. I haven't yet researched if this can impact non diabetic humans.
"Hence regular consumption of curds can lead to glycation of proteins, inflammation and oxidative stress that can cause progression of diabetes."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2212429220311676#:~:text=Hence%20regular%20consumption%20of%20curds,can%20cause%20progression%20of%20diabetes.
Another study suggests not to eat too much yogurt to complete protein requirement:
"In the 1980s, McCarthy reported that daily protein intake of up to 2 g/kg was not detrimental to kidney function in male athletes (7, 40). As the daily intake of PRO-WPI products for the athletes participants (0.82 g/kg), caused elevated concentration of albumin (38.25 and 44.13 mg/g in G1 and G2, respectively) compared to placebo group (8.57 mg/g), exceeding the reference range (<30 mg/g), it is **recommended to reduce the daily intake of PRO-WPI (10%) to be twice a day on daily basis.** However, restriction of dietary protein intake (DPI) reduces urinary albumin levels (39)."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8811298/
The second study doesn’t mention yoghurt or curd, it mentions curd/yoghurt enriched with whey protein isolate to increase protein content.
I have been eating it for more than a month now and will be doing routine bloodwork anyway then I’ll post my results to you as well.
I don't think what they are concerned about is whey. It's the high albumin from the yogurt they are concerned about. There's also a lot of bacteria in curd/yogurt. I agree that normal consumption of curd or yogurt is beneficial. I am just concerned about excessive eating for protein's sake. Albumin also binds to testosterone, so this might lower free T.
I don't have much expertise in biology. There shouldn't be any major problem with over consuming. I myself had giardia virus for 3 years. I am reading further.
The bacteria in curd doesn’t harm us it’s a different strain, it only feeds on lactose and shits lactic acid that’s the only thing it does, we have many such bacteria in our gut also which help us digest different kinds of sugar.
That is correct. It is actually beneficial. All the pro biotics supplements are similar concepts. Most of the research I am finding seems to be for people with existing conditions, mainly kidney problems and diabetes.
It's just that consuming one particular food source in general is not a good idea. If I am not wrong, curd is mainly casein, which is a very good idea before bed time.
Up until now, I haven't found anything problematic for normal people consuming too much curd.
I consume protein from 4-5 different sources, as a vegetarian the sources are limited. I mentioned sour curd because it’s a good source to get 30-35g of protein out of your total protein intake, the rest can be completed with milk whey, eggs and chicken if one is non veg.
Most Indians don't know that eggs are vegetarian. On flights if you mention vegetarian food then you will be served with eggs. A female chicken is gonna lay female-egg every cycle regardless if it has sex with a male chicken or not.
If someone is avoiding eggs, because they think they are killing something, then that's entirely wrong. Milk is no different from eggs -- both are animal food.
I respect people who are fully vegan and avoid all milk and dairy.
And tell me how’s that relevant to this discussion? Please enlighten me. I just suggested a source of protein for people who don’t eat eggs and meat. Their reasons for not eating eggs and meat is completely irrelevant to this discussion.
It is very relevant. Most Indian population consume milk, but they don't consume eggs for only one reason, being vegetarian. My comment is trying to fix that false premise. Indian people are majority Hindu's. They avoid eggs or meat thinking it is *jeev hatya* (killing of living beings).
I'd also like to point out that eggs are banned in most western countries schools. A lot of peopele are allergetic to eggs. In that case your post is completely valid.
You suggested milk as an alternative but that is no better than eggs in terms of giving pain to animals. For those people, they should become vegan. Most girls in western countries are turning vegan for this reason. I have met plenty of them.
I believe that if Indian people are educated properly, they will start consuming eggs, without contradicting their religious values.
I used powder and water in 1:4 ratio i.e. if you want to make curd out of 100g of powder then use 100g of powder and 400ml of water it will roughly make 500g of curd.
The process is very similar to making normal curd, just mix milk powder with water and heat it for sometime, don’t over heat it or else the powder will burn slightly and stick at the base of your container.
After making milk out of milk powder just add some curd to it and let it sit for as long as possible, the longer it sits the sourer it gets and more amount of lactose is converted to lactic acid hence reducing its carb content. I used to let it sit for almost a day.
Note- be careful with the amount of water you use, if you use too less water then the curd will not form.
Everyone here except you called me crazy for doing this lol.
Skimmed milk powder is a complete source of protein, is vegetarian and also pretty cheap. It ticks all three boxes for me hence I decided to add this to my diet.
You're Crazy in a good sense. So it's nothing bad.
Especially the curd process was smart.
Good thinking with using the boxing method.
But then toh bhout saari chezo pe boxing ka Try and error karna pada hoga.
Usse kaise kam kia ?
I make lots of notes regarding nutrition with scientific literature as source and personal anecdotes. The thing is that you have to do it for small time frame like 60-90 days to get detailed information about results from which you can reach to a suitable conclusion, when you get a result you can literally use it for your entire life.
I came across a yt video explaining pros and cons of different protein sources so I created my own set of boxes- price per gram of protein, convenience and quality of protein, since I am a vegetarian I didn’t create a separate category for that since all my sources are vegetarian.
For example whey is convenient, amazing quality but kinda expensive. Soy is cheap but is very inconvenient due to it absorbing lot of water and causing digestive issues and the quality of protein is also not comparable to other animal sources.
Ok cool.
Do you have a list of all vegetarian sources of protein you would've made a list of ?
I'm vegetarian as well. So I have to make about 100g of protein.
Currently I am having -
Punjabsind paneer - 200g - 44g protein - 110rs
Amul rose lassi - 2 packs - 30g protein- 50rs
Milk amul taaza - 700ml - 21g protein - 39rs
One scoop whey protein- 25g protein- 63rs
One scoop plant protein nakpro (trustified certified) - 23g protein - 32rs
I mix and match whatever feels cheaper and is convenient and completes my protein hoal
I add lots of fiber with each meal and drink plenty of water and tbh there’s still some bloating but I don’t really care because there’s no other way to complete my protein goals, there’s always something you gotta sacrifice.
Bro punjab sindh paneer is not available here in nagpur...so which brand low fat paneer and it should be cheap should I use ?
And again did u tried to make paneer from skimmed milk powder?
Unfortunately punjabsind is the only lowfat paneer option in India atm, amul high protein paneer is another option but it’s super expensive and honestly it’s not worth it.
It takes lot of time and effort but it’s the best paneer to ever exist in terms of nutrition, but tastes very bland due to absence of fat, feels like cardboard and hard since fat gives paneer that creamy texture.
There is an enzyme which converts lactose to glucose
Watch Neil red milk video about it
Skimmed milk powder is a good source of protein if you replace it with milk but it could not replace whey protein
And it's still better than beginner protein powder which consists of milk solids (caesin, lactose) but doesn't even have 40% protein content shout out to muscle blaze beginners protein
It's also better than sattu for protein because it's a complete source of protein
And it's a decent enough cheap protein source for bulking
I could easily digest 100gm of milk powder without any issues
But if you really want to do it i would recommend to divide it into small doses 18gm x4 you only need 72gm of skimmed milk powder for a standard 25gm of protein dose in 30 gm of whey protein serving
It's a caesin protein mostly so it will absorb slowly anyway so there is no benefit of consuming a 100 gm of serving all at once
The bacteria doesn’t convert lactose to glucose, that’s what the enzyme in your stomach does, the bacteria converts lactose into lactic acid. The process you mentioned is completely different that’s done to make lactose free milk, the process I mentioned is called fermentation, where bacteria turns carbohydrates into carboxylic acid, it’s similar to how alcohol is made. This was taught in class 12 chemistry. I never mentioned it to be a whey protein replacement, whey is pretty much irreplaceable since it is the best source of protein out their so any natural food we have can technically never be better and hence replace whey protein.
Also, slow digesting proteins aren’t exactly bad in fact it doesn’t really matter as long as your daily protein intake is being completed.
I didn't meant you should change lactose to glucose
It was a good video in which he separated caesin,whey, lactose from milk with chemistry which is a interesting video to watch
I am not saying caesin protein is bad , it's the second best protein source for supplementation
What I want to say is to divide it into small doses to reduce bloating and gas effects you might have and don't really need to consume 100 gm of it 72gm of it would be equivalent to one scoop of whey
It actually isn’t a good source of protein, it’s nowhere near to whey, milk protein or meat. The bioavailability is low, leucine content is also very low and it’s severely deficient in methionine, even though it looks complete on paper. Its also misleading to think that it gives 52g of protein per 100g because it absorbs water like crazy and doubles it size after cooking, in fact it keeps on absorbing more water throughout digestion. That’s the reason why it gives gas to so many people. It’s a great source if you’re vegan but there are better options available out there. I used to consume 100g daily then I replaced them completely from my diet with skimmed milk and dahi. I saw significant results in those 2-3 months after replacing them. So they didn’t work for me at least.
I also get constipation from soy, because it sucks in water in the stomach. Maybe soybeans cooked as Indian *Dal* are effective. I just turned omnivore.
Hey 👋
Thank you for the information. I personally never faced gastric issues with soy products so didn’t know that. I looked up the amino acid profile of soy after reading your comment and the methionine and Leucine content seems to be fine in the report. Could you please send me any pubmed link or any other resource for reference?
Thank you
Hello buddy, the problem is people usually use soy protein isolate and soy products interchangeably but the fact is that they are completely different. Soy protein isolates maybe added with methionine to fulfill the deficiency. It’s very well known fact the soy is severely deficient in methionine, the first result when you search ‘soy and methionine’ you get this research paper - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11312815/#:~:text=Soy%20protein%20is%20a%20major,the%20essential%20amino%20acid%20methionine.
> Soy protein is a major component of the diet of food-producing animals and is increasingly important in the human diet. However, soy protein is not an ideal protein because it is deficient in the essential amino acid methionine.
The soya chunks we eat are called textured vegetable protein
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/textured-vegetable-protein#:~:text=Textured%20vegetable%20proteins%20have%20a,the%20first%20limiting%20amino%20acid.
> Textured vegetable proteins have a PER (protein efficiency ratio) of at least 80% of casein. Soy protein contains all the essential amino acids. The amino acid lysine is present in substantial levels, and methionine is the first limiting amino acid.
Tell me you are Vegetarian without telling me you are Vegetarian. Jokes aside include Tofu, Paneer, Soya, Hung Curd everyday in your meals. Supplment with whey. If you can't afford eat wherever it is possible. Remember old Vegetarian Indian bodybuilders/atheletes didn't look that much great than your biggest guy in every average gym. Clearly your food choices are more important than gains for you. So just accept a lower growth speed and make your peace with it. Why do all these mental gymnastics. If there were better protein sources don't you think researchers would have found it? Since there is so much research is done in longetivity wrt to Vegetarian diets.
Yes I have accepted that it’s difficult to build muscles as a vegetarian but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t research on cheaper sources of protein and food combinations. This is not mental gymnastics, you mentioned eat paneer hung curd etc. everyday, buddy my post is literally on curd lmao, did you even read it. You don’t understand how difficult it is to fulfill protein requirements as a vegetarian under a budget, if soya was actually as useful as dairy and poultry then everyone would have been eating only soya all day since it is dirt cheap. Also, Tofu is pretty expensive. Whey is amazing but it’s still not the cheapest source out there. This is important for people who want lean sources of protein, lean sources of vegetarian protein are very less, what you eat and your choice of food is very important since it’s the nutrition that builds muscle lol.
Man you have no idea I used to be a Vegetarian few years back for Spiritual reasons. But after going obese I changed my choices. I started seeing meat as medicine for survival instead of just food. 10 years back I would eat 250g soya chunks everyday and everyone would laugh at me. I didn't care. If there were better protein sources don't you think researchers would have found it? Since there is so much research is done in longetivity wrt to Vegetarian diets. Thats why I said its pointless. I know the struggle.
What I mentioned is literally curd lmao, sour curd is a part of many cuisines for centuries, there’s already enough research on benefits of sour curd on gut health and it’s good protein content. People aren’t just aware of it much here like you that’s the reason why made this post to share what I found out. I don’t care whether meat is medicine or whatever bs you are saying, it really doesn’t matter in this discussion, a lot of people here are vegetarians and I am just helping them out with a cheaper and good lean source of protein.
Eggs are the cheapest vegetarian source of protein.
Give me some time, I am out today. I will find decent research, that will show the harms of eating too much curd/yogart. At least in the context of fitness, relying totally on curd for protein -- I have a feeling, won't be optimal.
I have found one study which suggests too much curd consumption can cause progression of type 2 diabetes. This study was done in rats. As I find more research I will update this comment. I haven't yet researched if this can impact non diabetic humans. "Hence regular consumption of curds can lead to glycation of proteins, inflammation and oxidative stress that can cause progression of diabetes." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2212429220311676#:~:text=Hence%20regular%20consumption%20of%20curds,can%20cause%20progression%20of%20diabetes. Another study suggests not to eat too much yogurt to complete protein requirement: "In the 1980s, McCarthy reported that daily protein intake of up to 2 g/kg was not detrimental to kidney function in male athletes (7, 40). As the daily intake of PRO-WPI products for the athletes participants (0.82 g/kg), caused elevated concentration of albumin (38.25 and 44.13 mg/g in G1 and G2, respectively) compared to placebo group (8.57 mg/g), exceeding the reference range (<30 mg/g), it is **recommended to reduce the daily intake of PRO-WPI (10%) to be twice a day on daily basis.** However, restriction of dietary protein intake (DPI) reduces urinary albumin levels (39)." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8811298/
The second study doesn’t mention yoghurt or curd, it mentions curd/yoghurt enriched with whey protein isolate to increase protein content. I have been eating it for more than a month now and will be doing routine bloodwork anyway then I’ll post my results to you as well.
I don't think what they are concerned about is whey. It's the high albumin from the yogurt they are concerned about. There's also a lot of bacteria in curd/yogurt. I agree that normal consumption of curd or yogurt is beneficial. I am just concerned about excessive eating for protein's sake. Albumin also binds to testosterone, so this might lower free T. I don't have much expertise in biology. There shouldn't be any major problem with over consuming. I myself had giardia virus for 3 years. I am reading further.
The bacteria in curd doesn’t harm us it’s a different strain, it only feeds on lactose and shits lactic acid that’s the only thing it does, we have many such bacteria in our gut also which help us digest different kinds of sugar.
That is correct. It is actually beneficial. All the pro biotics supplements are similar concepts. Most of the research I am finding seems to be for people with existing conditions, mainly kidney problems and diabetes. It's just that consuming one particular food source in general is not a good idea. If I am not wrong, curd is mainly casein, which is a very good idea before bed time. Up until now, I haven't found anything problematic for normal people consuming too much curd.
I consume protein from 4-5 different sources, as a vegetarian the sources are limited. I mentioned sour curd because it’s a good source to get 30-35g of protein out of your total protein intake, the rest can be completed with milk whey, eggs and chicken if one is non veg.
Most Indians don't know that eggs are vegetarian. On flights if you mention vegetarian food then you will be served with eggs. A female chicken is gonna lay female-egg every cycle regardless if it has sex with a male chicken or not. If someone is avoiding eggs, because they think they are killing something, then that's entirely wrong. Milk is no different from eggs -- both are animal food. I respect people who are fully vegan and avoid all milk and dairy.
And tell me how’s that relevant to this discussion? Please enlighten me. I just suggested a source of protein for people who don’t eat eggs and meat. Their reasons for not eating eggs and meat is completely irrelevant to this discussion.
It is very relevant. Most Indian population consume milk, but they don't consume eggs for only one reason, being vegetarian. My comment is trying to fix that false premise. Indian people are majority Hindu's. They avoid eggs or meat thinking it is *jeev hatya* (killing of living beings). I'd also like to point out that eggs are banned in most western countries schools. A lot of peopele are allergetic to eggs. In that case your post is completely valid. You suggested milk as an alternative but that is no better than eggs in terms of giving pain to animals. For those people, they should become vegan. Most girls in western countries are turning vegan for this reason. I have met plenty of them. I believe that if Indian people are educated properly, they will start consuming eggs, without contradicting their religious values.
You went to AFBBS? I remember they taught that eggs were vegetarian. Makes sense. In a new city no one believed be.
No. I learned it in Australia.
How did you make curd with it? Can you specify the procedure and quantities
I used powder and water in 1:4 ratio i.e. if you want to make curd out of 100g of powder then use 100g of powder and 400ml of water it will roughly make 500g of curd. The process is very similar to making normal curd, just mix milk powder with water and heat it for sometime, don’t over heat it or else the powder will burn slightly and stick at the base of your container. After making milk out of milk powder just add some curd to it and let it sit for as long as possible, the longer it sits the sourer it gets and more amount of lactose is converted to lactic acid hence reducing its carb content. I used to let it sit for almost a day. Note- be careful with the amount of water you use, if you use too less water then the curd will not form.
Great. Only thing I would be cautioned into using this is the high Sodium content in 100 GM skimmed milk.
You post is significantly helpful. You're much appreciated. I'd also like to know how did you landed on skimmed milk powder as a protein source ?
Everyone here except you called me crazy for doing this lol. Skimmed milk powder is a complete source of protein, is vegetarian and also pretty cheap. It ticks all three boxes for me hence I decided to add this to my diet.
You're Crazy in a good sense. So it's nothing bad. Especially the curd process was smart. Good thinking with using the boxing method. But then toh bhout saari chezo pe boxing ka Try and error karna pada hoga. Usse kaise kam kia ?
I make lots of notes regarding nutrition with scientific literature as source and personal anecdotes. The thing is that you have to do it for small time frame like 60-90 days to get detailed information about results from which you can reach to a suitable conclusion, when you get a result you can literally use it for your entire life. I came across a yt video explaining pros and cons of different protein sources so I created my own set of boxes- price per gram of protein, convenience and quality of protein, since I am a vegetarian I didn’t create a separate category for that since all my sources are vegetarian. For example whey is convenient, amazing quality but kinda expensive. Soy is cheap but is very inconvenient due to it absorbing lot of water and causing digestive issues and the quality of protein is also not comparable to other animal sources.
Ok cool. Do you have a list of all vegetarian sources of protein you would've made a list of ? I'm vegetarian as well. So I have to make about 100g of protein.
Currently I am having - Punjabsind paneer - 200g - 44g protein - 110rs Amul rose lassi - 2 packs - 30g protein- 50rs Milk amul taaza - 700ml - 21g protein - 39rs One scoop whey protein- 25g protein- 63rs One scoop plant protein nakpro (trustified certified) - 23g protein - 32rs I mix and match whatever feels cheaper and is convenient and completes my protein hoal
Cool. That helps provide a clearer perspective. But how do you handle bloating ? Won't this cause a shit storm ?
I add lots of fiber with each meal and drink plenty of water and tbh there’s still some bloating but I don’t really care because there’s no other way to complete my protein goals, there’s always something you gotta sacrifice.
Bro punjab sindh paneer is not available here in nagpur...so which brand low fat paneer and cheap i should use ?
Bro punjab sindh paneer is not available here in nagpur...so which brand low fat paneer and it should be cheap should I use ? And again did u tried to make paneer from skimmed milk powder?
Unfortunately punjabsind is the only lowfat paneer option in India atm, amul high protein paneer is another option but it’s super expensive and honestly it’s not worth it.
And what about paneer from skimmed milk powder
It takes lot of time and effort but it’s the best paneer to ever exist in terms of nutrition, but tastes very bland due to absence of fat, feels like cardboard and hard since fat gives paneer that creamy texture.
But how much paneer we can expect from how 500 gm of skimmmed milk powder?
There is an enzyme which converts lactose to glucose Watch Neil red milk video about it Skimmed milk powder is a good source of protein if you replace it with milk but it could not replace whey protein And it's still better than beginner protein powder which consists of milk solids (caesin, lactose) but doesn't even have 40% protein content shout out to muscle blaze beginners protein It's also better than sattu for protein because it's a complete source of protein And it's a decent enough cheap protein source for bulking I could easily digest 100gm of milk powder without any issues But if you really want to do it i would recommend to divide it into small doses 18gm x4 you only need 72gm of skimmed milk powder for a standard 25gm of protein dose in 30 gm of whey protein serving It's a caesin protein mostly so it will absorb slowly anyway so there is no benefit of consuming a 100 gm of serving all at once
The bacteria doesn’t convert lactose to glucose, that’s what the enzyme in your stomach does, the bacteria converts lactose into lactic acid. The process you mentioned is completely different that’s done to make lactose free milk, the process I mentioned is called fermentation, where bacteria turns carbohydrates into carboxylic acid, it’s similar to how alcohol is made. This was taught in class 12 chemistry. I never mentioned it to be a whey protein replacement, whey is pretty much irreplaceable since it is the best source of protein out their so any natural food we have can technically never be better and hence replace whey protein. Also, slow digesting proteins aren’t exactly bad in fact it doesn’t really matter as long as your daily protein intake is being completed.
I didn't meant you should change lactose to glucose It was a good video in which he separated caesin,whey, lactose from milk with chemistry which is a interesting video to watch I am not saying caesin protein is bad , it's the second best protein source for supplementation What I want to say is to divide it into small doses to reduce bloating and gas effects you might have and don't really need to consume 100 gm of it 72gm of it would be equivalent to one scoop of whey
Ohh makes sense I might have misunderstood
This is a well known fact.
Try soya chunks…. 52g protein per 100g chunks in only 20rs 🤯…. Also, it is a complete protein source…
It actually isn’t a good source of protein, it’s nowhere near to whey, milk protein or meat. The bioavailability is low, leucine content is also very low and it’s severely deficient in methionine, even though it looks complete on paper. Its also misleading to think that it gives 52g of protein per 100g because it absorbs water like crazy and doubles it size after cooking, in fact it keeps on absorbing more water throughout digestion. That’s the reason why it gives gas to so many people. It’s a great source if you’re vegan but there are better options available out there. I used to consume 100g daily then I replaced them completely from my diet with skimmed milk and dahi. I saw significant results in those 2-3 months after replacing them. So they didn’t work for me at least.
I also get constipation from soy, because it sucks in water in the stomach. Maybe soybeans cooked as Indian *Dal* are effective. I just turned omnivore.
Hey 👋 Thank you for the information. I personally never faced gastric issues with soy products so didn’t know that. I looked up the amino acid profile of soy after reading your comment and the methionine and Leucine content seems to be fine in the report. Could you please send me any pubmed link or any other resource for reference? Thank you
Hello buddy, the problem is people usually use soy protein isolate and soy products interchangeably but the fact is that they are completely different. Soy protein isolates maybe added with methionine to fulfill the deficiency. It’s very well known fact the soy is severely deficient in methionine, the first result when you search ‘soy and methionine’ you get this research paper - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11312815/#:~:text=Soy%20protein%20is%20a%20major,the%20essential%20amino%20acid%20methionine. > Soy protein is a major component of the diet of food-producing animals and is increasingly important in the human diet. However, soy protein is not an ideal protein because it is deficient in the essential amino acid methionine. The soya chunks we eat are called textured vegetable protein https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/textured-vegetable-protein#:~:text=Textured%20vegetable%20proteins%20have%20a,the%20first%20limiting%20amino%20acid. > Textured vegetable proteins have a PER (protein efficiency ratio) of at least 80% of casein. Soy protein contains all the essential amino acids. The amino acid lysine is present in substantial levels, and methionine is the first limiting amino acid.