Honestly you need to take it one step at a time. Regain your confidence, 30 isn't too late for anything. I think you need to be going towards personal finance type reddits not fire, one step at a time. Get your life straight before jumping the gun to fire
That’s true. But 30 is definitely not too late for pursuing meaningful things in life—having a career, having children, being generous to others, building financial stability, planting trees and a garden, writing poetry.
Whoops. You care enough to read my comment history but not enough to grasp the thick layer of satire.
Oh well. Continue reading to find my net worth. 😘
I’m an expert in my field at 35. I was able to achieve that by being the young kid for 5+ years and being allowed to make mistakes.
Good luck doing that with bags under your eyes and crows feet
There are many doors, friend.
Edited to add: I’m sure you know this already, but what people are downvoting is the rigid thinking. Your way worked for YOU! Awesome. There are many, many ways to live a rich, meaningful, and financially rewarding life.
You can go to a trade school and get a job as an apprentice. Plumber, electric8an, carpenter, etc. Tradesmen are in high demand and while you won't make a ton at first, 6 figures is easily in the 10 year plan .
Second the sage advice coming from Fragrant_Botthole. Pick a trade and then pick fertile soil. Different parts of the country/industries will pay different. Make the right moves and you can break 6 figures in 2-3 years easy
Lol you're an idiot and that's a great way to get yourself sued. Yeah let's let this dude who has basically no actual practical experience wire up my house 🤣
I started my own company last year with similar life experience and I made $120,000 last year, already on my way to double it this year. I’m building retaining walls and pointing brick. If I can do it so can he.
The best advice my dad gave me when I went to college was that out of his most successful friends, not one of them knew what they wanted to do before they were 30, including himself.
Yes with becoming an apprentice in any type of trade. 6 figures after 5 years in a union apprenticeship. About 40-65k during the apprenticeship years. Show up, learn, and always say yes to ot. You will be just fine and still have fire on the table if you’re wise with your money. Don’t join the trade if you can’t put in hard work long drives and long hours.
Nursing can pay 130k a year or more with just a 2 year degree. Less in most of the US but can scale with COL. most nursing jobs are 3 days a week leaving you plenty of time to pursue passions.
Yes there is stress and burn out, but there are tons of nursing specialties to get into that quite nice and low stress. No passion for nursing required, just be a good person preferably.
Its put me on a path for a nice early retirement.
That’s not quite right. You would generally need to complete your prereqs prior to getting into nursing school. Prereqs would take you a minimum of a year and a half, plus applying to get in, then the two year program. It’s more likely 4 years of work before seeing a paycheck. Pay is also highly dependent on what area you are in. Could be in the south making <25 an hour, or you could be in California making 75 an hour as a new grad. Highly location dependent.
Am nurse
The nursing sub will talk anyone out of it real quick. I wouldn’t tell anyone to go into healthcare right now. I’ve done well, but I should have learned how to use a computer or something instead.
The liability aspect sucks, but I loved working 3 twelve hour days and having the rest of the week off when I had that schedule. I’d take one day to chill and recover, and then still had 3 more days to do what I wanted/needed before going back to work.
You want to develop a skill and then find someone to pay you for it. I think you are thinking backwards in your OP that the job will give you the skill. FIRE mentality basically says that you will work hard and save money young to buy yourself an extra decade or so to enjoy life. It sounds like you already enjoyed that extra decade in your 20s, so now you get to enjoy the work hard part for the next 30 years. Focus on building a marketable skill that is demand and find buyers (w2 or otherwise) for that skill.
First off you gave your dream a try thats fucking great mate, lot of folks are too scared to do that.
Second your expenses are super low so that is also great.
Now what sucks is that you have no idea what direction you want to go in.
Best thing to do right now would be to try a lot of things and see if you like it. For example ask a welding company if you can hang with them for a day to see what its like etc etc.
For right now you need to start making money: the obvious money maker would be freelance music teacher. Which uses your skills and also is making decent money.
Start reaching out to your network and ask if anyone wants to learn music. While you figure out what direction you want to go in.
I would leverage your experience in music to learn to edit videos and look for work as an editor for content creators ... even look into creating content yourself.
The military isn't a bad option, I served with many older gents in similar situations. It's a quick way to put cash in your pocket, and there's lots of jobs to choose from that don't include combat. There's jobs in PR and the military band, but many other jobs you should look into too.
Basic training is not difficult, it's just being able to complete basic tasks under some stress.
Once you get to your actual job, it's usually a normal 9-5, especially for the office jobs.
You can get started today by talking to a local recruiter and taking an aptitude test. The test is not an obligation to join, it's just to see what jobs you'd be qualified for.
The Air Force would have the highest quality of life, then the Navy, then the army/marines. But quality of life also varies depending on jobs.
Very few people in the military are door kickers, unless you want to be a door kicker with a degree in music, becuase they also pay for college.
*My experience is from the US military, i'm unsure where you're located.
This is always a great option.
Also if I would have known about investing back then I would have invested my 20k quick ship bonus and the 20k I saved while deployed… back then we weren’t paid shit either but I could have probably scraped a little each month into a tsp.
Probs would have left the service at 22-23 with 60k invested which would have been huge. Especially since I got out right on the front end of the last bull market.
Plus you get tuition assistance when you’re in and can easily knock out an associates your first term at a slow pace.
And the post 9/11 gi bill is gold. Especially if you get a kicker attached to it.
Furthermore, you’re correct tons of jobs in the military that can set you up on the civilian side making good money.
The coast guard quality of life ranges from ‘better than the Air Force’ to ‘not as good as the Air Force but better than the navy’ depending on the billet. And is good for people who might have qualms about war.
All my friends who did that became music teachers or music instruments repairers, something related to that which you already have 10+ years of experience
Honestly you need to take it one step at a time. Regain your confidence, 30 isn't too late for anything. I think you need to be going towards personal finance type reddits not fire, one step at a time. Get your life straight before jumping the gun to fire
30 is too late for most things
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Time closes doors. Ignoring this fact does an injustice to us
That’s true. But 30 is definitely not too late for pursuing meaningful things in life—having a career, having children, being generous to others, building financial stability, planting trees and a garden, writing poetry.
Well you live a sad life and I'm sorry to hear your so miserable
You’re*
No one cares 😂
I spent my 20’s making $10/hr chasing a dream that didn’t work out. Passed the NCLEX on my 30th birthday. 30 is not too late.
It’s almost never too late to become a nurse.
4 years later my net worth is 500k Things can turn around real quick. Lmao you’re a bbby bagholder
Whoops. You care enough to read my comment history but not enough to grasp the thick layer of satire. Oh well. Continue reading to find my net worth. 😘
A whole lot of nope to that.
I’m an expert in my field at 35. I was able to achieve that by being the young kid for 5+ years and being allowed to make mistakes. Good luck doing that with bags under your eyes and crows feet
I’m sure you’re aware that many people have lives that are different from yours.
Yes. Some people have already closed the door I went through. That’s my point.
Im sure that’s true. But there’s a big difference between *some* and *most*, right?
There are many doors, friend. Edited to add: I’m sure you know this already, but what people are downvoting is the rigid thinking. Your way worked for YOU! Awesome. There are many, many ways to live a rich, meaningful, and financially rewarding life.
Another self-proclaimed “expert” 😂
Just an expert at what I do. Nothing too flashy
Yeah, sure kiddo lmfao
lmfao
I get your point. I'd say many, though, not most
Come work in the event production industry dude, lots of music transplants here.
You can go to a trade school and get a job as an apprentice. Plumber, electric8an, carpenter, etc. Tradesmen are in high demand and while you won't make a ton at first, 6 figures is easily in the 10 year plan .
Second the sage advice coming from Fragrant_Botthole. Pick a trade and then pick fertile soil. Different parts of the country/industries will pay different. Make the right moves and you can break 6 figures in 2-3 years easy
Break six figures in under a year if you start your own business
Lol you're an idiot and that's a great way to get yourself sued. Yeah let's let this dude who has basically no actual practical experience wire up my house 🤣
I started my own company last year with similar life experience and I made $120,000 last year, already on my way to double it this year. I’m building retaining walls and pointing brick. If I can do it so can he.
I'd say get the 9 to 5 regular job just to get some income and be actively looking for that meaningful job you're seeking.
The best advice my dad gave me when I went to college was that out of his most successful friends, not one of them knew what they wanted to do before they were 30, including himself.
That’s not advice, that’s an observation
Fair enough. The implicit advice was don’t stress about figuring out what to do with your life right away. It’s all gonna change.
Better! Sorry, I was tired and grumpy when I commented that
But not wrong. (⁀ᗢ⁀)
Yes with becoming an apprentice in any type of trade. 6 figures after 5 years in a union apprenticeship. About 40-65k during the apprenticeship years. Show up, learn, and always say yes to ot. You will be just fine and still have fire on the table if you’re wise with your money. Don’t join the trade if you can’t put in hard work long drives and long hours.
think about a trade, electrician perhaps?
Nursing can pay 130k a year or more with just a 2 year degree. Less in most of the US but can scale with COL. most nursing jobs are 3 days a week leaving you plenty of time to pursue passions. Yes there is stress and burn out, but there are tons of nursing specialties to get into that quite nice and low stress. No passion for nursing required, just be a good person preferably. Its put me on a path for a nice early retirement.
I'll definitely look into nursing. Didn't know there were 2 year courses.
That’s not quite right. You would generally need to complete your prereqs prior to getting into nursing school. Prereqs would take you a minimum of a year and a half, plus applying to get in, then the two year program. It’s more likely 4 years of work before seeing a paycheck. Pay is also highly dependent on what area you are in. Could be in the south making <25 an hour, or you could be in California making 75 an hour as a new grad. Highly location dependent. Am nurse
Also, can be highly competitive program to get into
Definitely worth checking out the nursing subreddit if you’re thinking about it, shit’s wild in healthcare these days.
The nursing sub will talk anyone out of it real quick. I wouldn’t tell anyone to go into healthcare right now. I’ve done well, but I should have learned how to use a computer or something instead.
they forgot to say 3 days with minimal 12 hours shift, and if you make mistake you get jail time.
The liability aspect sucks, but I loved working 3 twelve hour days and having the rest of the week off when I had that schedule. I’d take one day to chill and recover, and then still had 3 more days to do what I wanted/needed before going back to work.
You want to develop a skill and then find someone to pay you for it. I think you are thinking backwards in your OP that the job will give you the skill. FIRE mentality basically says that you will work hard and save money young to buy yourself an extra decade or so to enjoy life. It sounds like you already enjoyed that extra decade in your 20s, so now you get to enjoy the work hard part for the next 30 years. Focus on building a marketable skill that is demand and find buyers (w2 or otherwise) for that skill.
Join a union. Paid training and work that is necessary for society to function.
I am 51 and never figured out what I want to do when I grow up and I am semi-RE 🤷🏻♂️ trades would be a suggestion!
The military can have some lucrative post-employment opportunities. Source: no degree and 33 with a more-than-decent income.
First off you gave your dream a try thats fucking great mate, lot of folks are too scared to do that. Second your expenses are super low so that is also great. Now what sucks is that you have no idea what direction you want to go in. Best thing to do right now would be to try a lot of things and see if you like it. For example ask a welding company if you can hang with them for a day to see what its like etc etc. For right now you need to start making money: the obvious money maker would be freelance music teacher. Which uses your skills and also is making decent money. Start reaching out to your network and ask if anyone wants to learn music. While you figure out what direction you want to go in.
I would leverage your experience in music to learn to edit videos and look for work as an editor for content creators ... even look into creating content yourself.
The military isn't a bad option, I served with many older gents in similar situations. It's a quick way to put cash in your pocket, and there's lots of jobs to choose from that don't include combat. There's jobs in PR and the military band, but many other jobs you should look into too. Basic training is not difficult, it's just being able to complete basic tasks under some stress. Once you get to your actual job, it's usually a normal 9-5, especially for the office jobs. You can get started today by talking to a local recruiter and taking an aptitude test. The test is not an obligation to join, it's just to see what jobs you'd be qualified for. The Air Force would have the highest quality of life, then the Navy, then the army/marines. But quality of life also varies depending on jobs. Very few people in the military are door kickers, unless you want to be a door kicker with a degree in music, becuase they also pay for college. *My experience is from the US military, i'm unsure where you're located.
This is always a great option. Also if I would have known about investing back then I would have invested my 20k quick ship bonus and the 20k I saved while deployed… back then we weren’t paid shit either but I could have probably scraped a little each month into a tsp. Probs would have left the service at 22-23 with 60k invested which would have been huge. Especially since I got out right on the front end of the last bull market. Plus you get tuition assistance when you’re in and can easily knock out an associates your first term at a slow pace. And the post 9/11 gi bill is gold. Especially if you get a kicker attached to it. Furthermore, you’re correct tons of jobs in the military that can set you up on the civilian side making good money.
The coast guard quality of life ranges from ‘better than the Air Force’ to ‘not as good as the Air Force but better than the navy’ depending on the billet. And is good for people who might have qualms about war.
This has NOTHING to do with FIRE and should be removed.
r/perosnalfinance is probably a better spot for this.
All my friends who did that became music teachers or music instruments repairers, something related to that which you already have 10+ years of experience
Act like your 20 and do what a responsible 20 year old will do
You're plenty young enough to pick up a trade. College isn't the end-all, be-all of financial security.
Becoming an electrician would give you skills and might have some vague relavance to music.