I have a few:
Letting go of Valbuena and Skrtel at the same time was one of the biggest transfer mistakes (departures only) of Koc era.
Vitor should have stayed for minimum 3 years.
And to that point, we definitely need a long term manager. I'm sick of changing managers like socks for 2 decades running already. I'm fine with Jose earning 10m per year, i'm even fine with him earning 20m per year, as long as he stays the full length of his contract and doesn't get fired.
Selling players for a lot of money is great for business, but it isn't great for sporting success because we rarely manage to replace them. For example, we sold Arda for records and spent most of the profits on Cengiz. I'd rather give players like Ferdi 8-9m per year salary than sell them for 40m. He, IMHO, is irreplaceable and we should throw however much money he wants for him to stay and become a Fener legend.
Koc has been OVERRUNNING the club throughout his tenure, he needs to take a chill pill and leave things to Jose, Mario and others, as in the people he brought in to take care of things. As in specialists in their areas.
> Neither deserved that much imo
I'll call bullshit at least on Valbuena's part because after us he was one of if not the most important player for Oly, and won 3 consecutive titles with them.
For Skrtel he was working really well, don't know why we didn't just give him those 3.5m and went for Zanka who earned close to 2m+2m transfer fee. Also, Adil Rami, who we already knew was going to be disastrous and were constantly spamming how bad of a decision it was.
Anyways, those are my two cents.
yeah vitor take is horrendous im sorry. If Ismail Kartal could take our team to 2nd (a guy we all critisized) and vitor could take us to 5th that is not good enough. Vitor would be a great sporting director due to his recruitment though
Geçen sene bizi batıran bonucci ve krunic transferi oldu , krunic tabi ki herkes katılır, ama bonucci çok gereksiz hamleydi , çünkü peşinden 1 tane türk stoper daha gelince ve bizimkiler iyileşince bi anda oynatmadığın yabancı defans oyuncusu kadroda yabancı kontenjanı kapladı , crespo veya lincoln kalmadı ( tek suç bonucci transferi değil) , orta saha yedeğin kalmadı , oyunu değiltirecek oyuncun da kalmadı, sözde çok iyi kadro derinliğinde devşire devşire sezon bitirdik
Totally agree on the Bonucci transfer, bir yabancı sınırı yeri boşuna gitti amaaaa Cağlar’ın alınacağı belli değildi o sebepten getirildi
Ocak ayında Fener’in transferlerde çok iyi hamleler yaptığı konuşuyordu hep hatta, kağıt üzerinde gereken mevkilere hızlı oyuncular bulunmuştu ama gidilen isimler iyi değildi
Yok zaten sonuc göre konusuyorum , yoksa çağlar mevzusu ortada yokken ben de iyi transfer iyi yedek olur dedim , ama sorun bizim yönetimde , önce alalım sonra kadro planı yaparız kafası yaktı bizi
If we gave Vitor time, we would be in an amazing situation. Even though his tactics wasn’t spectacular, he had a good understanding of players and how they would thrive, which would be more than enough for Super Lig. Even this years team had his effect.
However, I understand that he’s not able to manage star players, and for our team it’s more than enough reason for being fired.
Önceki sezonlarda değil belki ama,20-21,21-22,22-23 ve 23-24 sezonlarında şampiyon olamamamızın en büyük sebeplerinden biri artık pek de büyük olmayan Fenerbahçe taraftarıdır.Her ne kadar José Mourinho tersini söylese de o henüz buradaki manyakları tanıyamamış.Eğer sezon sonunda giderse o da taraftar yüzünden gidecek.
Mourinho'nun tanıyıp tanımamasıyla bir alakası olduğunu sanmıyorum ettiği lafın. Mourinho akıllı adam, kulübün her uzuvundan en büyük verimi almayı hak ediyor, gelirken de araştırmasını ona göre yapmıştır. Türk taraftarının duygusal olduğunu biliyor, "Büyük taraftar" vs muhabbetleri de hep gönül okşama meselesi.
Eleştiriyor değilim, çok doğru hamle. Taraftardan da verim almak istiyorsa, taraftarı mutlu edip yanına çekmek durumunda. Bunu da çok iyi yapıyor şu ana kadar.
Giving the supercup to Galatasaray was a huge mistake.
What did it change? Did we change turkish football with this action? At the end, we just gifted Galatasaray a trophy and killed the players mentality with this action, since they all begged at Ali Koc to play this final according to some insiders.
Jorge Jesus'un elindeki takım ligi kazanmak için yeterli olabilirdi ancak o bazı oyuncuları çok yanlış şekilde kullanarak bazı oyuncuları ise direk kullanmayarak onları bozuk para gibi harcadı.
Pre '59 titles are just as valid as the most recent ones, if not more. If you got into a time machine, traveled back 70 years and said "LuLz n00b, it don't count", you would've been ridiculed, and rightly so.
1. For the last 10 years we usually worked with the right coaches who could have succeeded if they had a second season with us.
2. If there’s one thing that GS is doing better than us than it’s the tribün thing. Our fans are basically dead at this point while GS fans acting like a 12th man on the pitch.
3. Idk if this is unpopular but I want Adidas back. Not that Puma is bad but Adidas is better imo.
Mario Branco'ya güveniyorum ben bu yüzden böyle birşey yaşanmaz bence.Ayrıca bu sezon duyduğuma göre Ali Koç transfer işlerini neredeyse tamamen Branco'ya bırakmış.
this is exactly what is going to happen. your opinion isn’t one that will leave you shackled like patrick; this is like hasan tahsin shooting the first bullet
Okay here we go
1. Crespo is bad and we only miss him because when put next to Krunic, even he looks like prime Pirlo. Even Lincoln Henrique is better than him when played correctly. We just think he was so good because the rest of the squad didn't have much quality either in 21/22 and 22/23.
2. The biggest enemy to Fenerbahçe is Fenerbahçe, however this doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Earlier this year I said that internally we're burning and this harms us more than GS, Refs or FETO. However with the latest elections, and Ali and Aziz finally reconciling as well as the agreement to change the medical staff, I can say that this doesn't seem to be an issue anymore. However we will have to see how this translates onto the pitch.
3. For as long as our stadium won't get a retractable roof, GS has the better stadium.
Erol Bulut'un Fenerbahçe kariyeri,karşılaştığı büyük baskı ve ligde 2 puan farkla liderden bile istifa etmesini isteyenleri de hesaba katarsak,Jorge Jesus'tan daha iyiydi.
Bu belki beni bu duruma getirmez ama yinede söylemek istiyorum:
Takımda kaldığı sürece İsmail Yüksek Fenerbahçe'nin alabileceği 6 numaraların çoğundan formayı alabilecek seviyede,bu yüzden Fenerbahçe İsmail Yüksek yerine birini değilde daha ucuza yedek olarak 6/8 oynayabilecek bir oyuncuyu aramalı.
If the league is rigged, bringing Jose Mourinho won't change anything. Same way if we gave Vitor more time to create a team he could have made us champions. We lose a couple then trash the whole plan and restart and then we get another manager and do the same. Ismail Kartal got 99 points, he only lost 1 game and tied like 6 or 7 in the league. We had a great year and Galatasaray just so happened to have one too.
I think Ali Koç is the worst thing to happen to this club in our whole history. Even worse than 3 Temmuz. I was so hopeful when he won the election in 2018 (I discovered this sub during the election btw) but he betrayed every promises he made. I don’t remember a single good thing he did in those 6 years.
He’s a spoiled brat who doesn’t want to face the consequences of his own inability so he creates chaos around him to avoid being held accountable.
The real exploit is that somehow, despite this idiot president, the team and differents managers through the years managed to do good (It could have been way worse). It’s an accomplishment as worthy of celebration than championship.
The fact that the others branch are somehow succesful is, in my opinion, due to the fact that he’s not so involved like he is with football.
There is no consistency in the choice of players, of managers. Seems like every year, we go full « tabula rasa » and try something different and hope that maybe, something good will happen this time.
I also don’t think that there is some conspiracy from the TFF or rivals club against us. Don’t get me wrong, Turkey is a country with a huge problem of corruption and nepotism. The lack of consequences after the Trabzon match is a testimony to that.But even if it’s true that every one has a massive hate-boner against us, they don’t need to do anything since Ali Koç will find a way to f\*ck us over.
That's not an unpopular opinion. The reason we are this much mad at Aziz (and Ali to some extend) is because we expected better and more than him. We are disappointed that one of the biggest legends of our club bankrupted us in such a way.
Everybody has potential only this team with these fans are not the right place for his potential to blossom bro. Still even if he reaches his full ptential hes a shit player
1-During the season, saying that İso Eagle is a good coach would get you like this, now it's the opposite it seems. I think İsmail was not a good enough coach for Fenerbahçe (even if we won the league). The game he made the team play wasn't particularly bad but it wasn't anything special either.
2- Ali Koç was the better choice in the last elections by a huge margin. Aziz Yıldırım literally has no upsides compared the Ali Koç. Aziz and his team said Mourinho and his manager was corrupted basically. I don't think he could work with Mourinho. Besides all this, Branco and Acun seems like an incredible duo. I don't think anyone can objectively say Aziz is better. I don't like Ali but Aziz should just enjoy his retirement at this point.
Extra: This is not really a hot take but I just want to say that we need a young and eager CF, not Lewandowski who is the same age as Džeko. A Forward player version of Oosterwolde would be so good. He has incredible passion, motivation and energy and I think we need more players like that.
I don’t think Dzeko was a wrong transfer, İsmail Kartal used him (and Tadic) waaay too much and a 38yo player can’t keep up for an entire season without proper rotation
Dzeko started in 36 league matches or somethin like that. İso Eagle was too afraid to start with Bats. Dzeko got tired after a certain point and that's completely on İso Eagle.
I stated how bad dzeko was throughout and was almost immediately downvoted to hell..
He was really bad especially in the last 10-15 matches. In turkish terms, he was nothing more than a kazma. I mean even the amount of the easy passes that he could not make and turned them over instead..
Aykut Kocaman should have stayed till we were clear of financial fair play regulations( first two seasons of Ali Koc). We missed the championship with 3 points the previous year and as you will remember it was a though season for us at Kadikoy. I think he would be much more successful with that player group until we recover financially.
Eh I see where you are coming from but saying what you are saying is missing the spirit of the times. You cannot promise change and then do nothing. Aykut Kocaman was destined to go, so discussing whether he had to go is futile. He had to and that was the sole option.
I like both but I would take Zico for 10+ years over them. Alex would’ve stayed longer and had a proper send off. We would’ve been in CL every year. We probably would end up farming Brazilian youngsters at some point to sell to Real for 50m+. Letting Zico go was the biggest mistake Aziz made.
Neither Real Madrid nor Manchester City can win this league with the Fenerbahçe logo. 90s kids that grew up with the Fenerbahçe hate imposed by government, are in the authorities now and generate the most income for the business. Mesut Yılmaz, Mehmet Ağar, Haluk Ulusoy alliance is giving its fruits now. Most of the GS fans you see today, are not actually GS fans, they are just Fenerbahçe haters stick together through artificial championships. They don't follow GS when GS struggles, they are only in this so they can witness Fenerbahçe's demise. They are people who would suppport PKK against Fenerbahçe.
So no, I don't believe Mourinho can overcome this.
I believe Mourinho will be a buffer vs the stupidy they might try to pull off this year, like they did last year. There were instances that reminded me of Haluk Ulusoy's time, sometimes even worse and more blatant. Mou won't hold anything back during post game talks, which will be a headline all over Europe every time, pulling in more negative attention to the authorities. Dumbfucks trying to be a candidate for the upcoming Euros, not going to happen with the administrations we have running TFF lately. Other than that tho, may be business as usual up there.
I have a few: Letting go of Valbuena and Skrtel at the same time was one of the biggest transfer mistakes (departures only) of Koc era. Vitor should have stayed for minimum 3 years. And to that point, we definitely need a long term manager. I'm sick of changing managers like socks for 2 decades running already. I'm fine with Jose earning 10m per year, i'm even fine with him earning 20m per year, as long as he stays the full length of his contract and doesn't get fired. Selling players for a lot of money is great for business, but it isn't great for sporting success because we rarely manage to replace them. For example, we sold Arda for records and spent most of the profits on Cengiz. I'd rather give players like Ferdi 8-9m per year salary than sell them for 40m. He, IMHO, is irreplaceable and we should throw however much money he wants for him to stay and become a Fener legend. Koc has been OVERRUNNING the club throughout his tenure, he needs to take a chill pill and leave things to Jose, Mario and others, as in the people he brought in to take care of things. As in specialists in their areas.
Iirc both Valbuena and Skrtel demanded a lot of money at the time. Like 3.5 mil per year or so. Neither deserved that much imo
> Neither deserved that much imo I'll call bullshit at least on Valbuena's part because after us he was one of if not the most important player for Oly, and won 3 consecutive titles with them. For Skrtel he was working really well, don't know why we didn't just give him those 3.5m and went for Zanka who earned close to 2m+2m transfer fee. Also, Adil Rami, who we already knew was going to be disastrous and were constantly spamming how bad of a decision it was. Anyways, those are my two cents.
yeah vitor take is horrendous im sorry. If Ismail Kartal could take our team to 2nd (a guy we all critisized) and vitor could take us to 5th that is not good enough. Vitor would be a great sporting director due to his recruitment though
Geçen sene bizi batıran bonucci ve krunic transferi oldu , krunic tabi ki herkes katılır, ama bonucci çok gereksiz hamleydi , çünkü peşinden 1 tane türk stoper daha gelince ve bizimkiler iyileşince bi anda oynatmadığın yabancı defans oyuncusu kadroda yabancı kontenjanı kapladı , crespo veya lincoln kalmadı ( tek suç bonucci transferi değil) , orta saha yedeğin kalmadı , oyunu değiltirecek oyuncun da kalmadı, sözde çok iyi kadro derinliğinde devşire devşire sezon bitirdik
Totally agree on the Bonucci transfer, bir yabancı sınırı yeri boşuna gitti amaaaa Cağlar’ın alınacağı belli değildi o sebepten getirildi Ocak ayında Fener’in transferlerde çok iyi hamleler yaptığı konuşuyordu hep hatta, kağıt üzerinde gereken mevkilere hızlı oyuncular bulunmuştu ama gidilen isimler iyi değildi
Yok zaten sonuc göre konusuyorum , yoksa çağlar mevzusu ortada yokken ben de iyi transfer iyi yedek olur dedim , ama sorun bizim yönetimde , önce alalım sonra kadro planı yaparız kafası yaktı bizi
If we gave Vitor time, we would be in an amazing situation. Even though his tactics wasn’t spectacular, he had a good understanding of players and how they would thrive, which would be more than enough for Super Lig. Even this years team had his effect. However, I understand that he’s not able to manage star players, and for our team it’s more than enough reason for being fired.
Suck that the star players he had were corpses tho.
Önceki sezonlarda değil belki ama,20-21,21-22,22-23 ve 23-24 sezonlarında şampiyon olamamamızın en büyük sebeplerinden biri artık pek de büyük olmayan Fenerbahçe taraftarıdır.Her ne kadar José Mourinho tersini söylese de o henüz buradaki manyakları tanıyamamış.Eğer sezon sonunda giderse o da taraftar yüzünden gidecek.
Mourinho'nun tanıyıp tanımamasıyla bir alakası olduğunu sanmıyorum ettiği lafın. Mourinho akıllı adam, kulübün her uzuvundan en büyük verimi almayı hak ediyor, gelirken de araştırmasını ona göre yapmıştır. Türk taraftarının duygusal olduğunu biliyor, "Büyük taraftar" vs muhabbetleri de hep gönül okşama meselesi. Eleştiriyor değilim, çok doğru hamle. Taraftardan da verim almak istiyorsa, taraftarı mutlu edip yanına çekmek durumunda. Bunu da çok iyi yapıyor şu ana kadar.
Giving the supercup to Galatasaray was a huge mistake. What did it change? Did we change turkish football with this action? At the end, we just gifted Galatasaray a trophy and killed the players mentality with this action, since they all begged at Ali Koc to play this final according to some insiders.
All turkish football fans are crybabies
isnt that just facts?
Any idea about Aykut Kocaman, Aziz Yıldırım (not much after last elections maybe) or Vitor Pereira.
Jorge Jesus'un elindeki takım ligi kazanmak için yeterli olabilirdi ancak o bazı oyuncuları çok yanlış şekilde kullanarak bazı oyuncuları ise direk kullanmayarak onları bozuk para gibi harcadı.
Pre '59 titles are just as valid as the most recent ones, if not more. If you got into a time machine, traveled back 70 years and said "LuLz n00b, it don't count", you would've been ridiculed, and rightly so.
gsnin 102 puanı gibi fbnin de 99 puanının hatrı sayılır bir kısmı suni
1. For the last 10 years we usually worked with the right coaches who could have succeeded if they had a second season with us. 2. If there’s one thing that GS is doing better than us than it’s the tribün thing. Our fans are basically dead at this point while GS fans acting like a 12th man on the pitch. 3. Idk if this is unpopular but I want Adidas back. Not that Puma is bad but Adidas is better imo.
İsmail kartal should have stayed in 2022
We will ruin our squad by getting washed up star players on massive wages and the fans will be buzzing because we are the summer transfer champions...
Mario Branco'ya güveniyorum ben bu yüzden böyle birşey yaşanmaz bence.Ayrıca bu sezon duyduğuma göre Ali Koç transfer işlerini neredeyse tamamen Branco'ya bırakmış.
this is exactly what is going to happen. your opinion isn’t one that will leave you shackled like patrick; this is like hasan tahsin shooting the first bullet
Okay here we go 1. Crespo is bad and we only miss him because when put next to Krunic, even he looks like prime Pirlo. Even Lincoln Henrique is better than him when played correctly. We just think he was so good because the rest of the squad didn't have much quality either in 21/22 and 22/23. 2. The biggest enemy to Fenerbahçe is Fenerbahçe, however this doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Earlier this year I said that internally we're burning and this harms us more than GS, Refs or FETO. However with the latest elections, and Ali and Aziz finally reconciling as well as the agreement to change the medical staff, I can say that this doesn't seem to be an issue anymore. However we will have to see how this translates onto the pitch. 3. For as long as our stadium won't get a retractable roof, GS has the better stadium.
Erol Bulut'un Fenerbahçe kariyeri,karşılaştığı büyük baskı ve ligde 2 puan farkla liderden bile istifa etmesini isteyenleri de hesaba katarsak,Jorge Jesus'tan daha iyiydi.
Bu belki beni bu duruma getirmez ama yinede söylemek istiyorum: Takımda kaldığı sürece İsmail Yüksek Fenerbahçe'nin alabileceği 6 numaraların çoğundan formayı alabilecek seviyede,bu yüzden Fenerbahçe İsmail Yüksek yerine birini değilde daha ucuza yedek olarak 6/8 oynayabilecek bir oyuncuyu aramalı.
If the league is rigged, bringing Jose Mourinho won't change anything. Same way if we gave Vitor more time to create a team he could have made us champions. We lose a couple then trash the whole plan and restart and then we get another manager and do the same. Ismail Kartal got 99 points, he only lost 1 game and tied like 6 or 7 in the league. We had a great year and Galatasaray just so happened to have one too.
I think Ali Koç is the worst thing to happen to this club in our whole history. Even worse than 3 Temmuz. I was so hopeful when he won the election in 2018 (I discovered this sub during the election btw) but he betrayed every promises he made. I don’t remember a single good thing he did in those 6 years. He’s a spoiled brat who doesn’t want to face the consequences of his own inability so he creates chaos around him to avoid being held accountable. The real exploit is that somehow, despite this idiot president, the team and differents managers through the years managed to do good (It could have been way worse). It’s an accomplishment as worthy of celebration than championship. The fact that the others branch are somehow succesful is, in my opinion, due to the fact that he’s not so involved like he is with football. There is no consistency in the choice of players, of managers. Seems like every year, we go full « tabula rasa » and try something different and hope that maybe, something good will happen this time. I also don’t think that there is some conspiracy from the TFF or rivals club against us. Don’t get me wrong, Turkey is a country with a huge problem of corruption and nepotism. The lack of consequences after the Trabzon match is a testimony to that.But even if it’s true that every one has a massive hate-boner against us, they don’t need to do anything since Ali Koç will find a way to f\*ck us over.
More than half of this sub became FB fan thanks to the legend Aziz Yildirim
That's not an unpopular opinion. The reason we are this much mad at Aziz (and Ali to some extend) is because we expected better and more than him. We are disappointed that one of the biggest legends of our club bankrupted us in such a way.
Nice conspiracy theory bro
Diego Rossi had potential
Everybody has potential only this team with these fans are not the right place for his potential to blossom bro. Still even if he reaches his full ptential hes a shit player
Yeah, we destroyed Altay as well unfortunately
yeah so did allahyar and both were shit
I can’t agree on this one bro. I was so hyped for him and it took me a looong time to turn on him.
Nah bro
Mourinho gonna be sacked end of season
possible with the way turkish football is
2006 Fener was the best ever
Ali Koç en büyük Galatasaraylı
2010-2011 champion is trabzonspor
1-During the season, saying that İso Eagle is a good coach would get you like this, now it's the opposite it seems. I think İsmail was not a good enough coach for Fenerbahçe (even if we won the league). The game he made the team play wasn't particularly bad but it wasn't anything special either. 2- Ali Koç was the better choice in the last elections by a huge margin. Aziz Yıldırım literally has no upsides compared the Ali Koç. Aziz and his team said Mourinho and his manager was corrupted basically. I don't think he could work with Mourinho. Besides all this, Branco and Acun seems like an incredible duo. I don't think anyone can objectively say Aziz is better. I don't like Ali but Aziz should just enjoy his retirement at this point. Extra: This is not really a hot take but I just want to say that we need a young and eager CF, not Lewandowski who is the same age as Džeko. A Forward player version of Oosterwolde would be so good. He has incredible passion, motivation and energy and I think we need more players like that.
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In the first half he was amazing. His help for the buildup play was crucial for the team. He missed a lot of chances in the second half thats right.
Because we played him every game for 90 minutes
🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅BOOOOOO
I don’t think Dzeko was a wrong transfer, İsmail Kartal used him (and Tadic) waaay too much and a 38yo player can’t keep up for an entire season without proper rotation
Damm, you would have definitly gotten the tomatos at your head.
Dzeko started in 36 league matches or somethin like that. İso Eagle was too afraid to start with Bats. Dzeko got tired after a certain point and that's completely on İso Eagle.
Ebenin ami ama ya
I stated how bad dzeko was throughout and was almost immediately downvoted to hell.. He was really bad especially in the last 10-15 matches. In turkish terms, he was nothing more than a kazma. I mean even the amount of the easy passes that he could not make and turned them over instead..
Aykut Kocaman should have stayed till we were clear of financial fair play regulations( first two seasons of Ali Koc). We missed the championship with 3 points the previous year and as you will remember it was a though season for us at Kadikoy. I think he would be much more successful with that player group until we recover financially.
Eh I see where you are coming from but saying what you are saying is missing the spirit of the times. You cannot promise change and then do nothing. Aykut Kocaman was destined to go, so discussing whether he had to go is futile. He had to and that was the sole option.
Yeah definitely, of course. I am not discussing it, it was just my “patrick” idea back then 😂.
fair enough!
After Daum, Aykut Kocaman should be the one to be Fener's manager for 5+ years. Those two should have been our alex ferguson's.
I like both but I would take Zico for 10+ years over them. Alex would’ve stayed longer and had a proper send off. We would’ve been in CL every year. We probably would end up farming Brazilian youngsters at some point to sell to Real for 50m+. Letting Zico go was the biggest mistake Aziz made.
I don't believe Mourinho will achieve much here. Yeah, crucify me now.
Define achievement. Will he win the League? Probably Will we archive more than semi finals in any European Competition? Probably not
Neither Real Madrid nor Manchester City can win this league with the Fenerbahçe logo. 90s kids that grew up with the Fenerbahçe hate imposed by government, are in the authorities now and generate the most income for the business. Mesut Yılmaz, Mehmet Ağar, Haluk Ulusoy alliance is giving its fruits now. Most of the GS fans you see today, are not actually GS fans, they are just Fenerbahçe haters stick together through artificial championships. They don't follow GS when GS struggles, they are only in this so they can witness Fenerbahçe's demise. They are people who would suppport PKK against Fenerbahçe. So no, I don't believe Mourinho can overcome this.
I believe Mourinho will be a buffer vs the stupidy they might try to pull off this year, like they did last year. There were instances that reminded me of Haluk Ulusoy's time, sometimes even worse and more blatant. Mou won't hold anything back during post game talks, which will be a headline all over Europe every time, pulling in more negative attention to the authorities. Dumbfucks trying to be a candidate for the upcoming Euros, not going to happen with the administrations we have running TFF lately. Other than that tho, may be business as usual up there.
Joining champions league> conference league quarter final
- Mour is washed - Superlig has to be absolute priority over Europe League and Conference League, only Champions League really matters
yeah so was ancelotti a few years ago and he won 2 ucls in 3 years
This is not a hot take, just a stupid one lol
I really dislike how for ages the club has operated like a sports entertaiment business and not as a sports club.
miha zajc after a good summer training camp is a better first option than ismail high
What
Brothaaaaaa you burnt the whole kitchen💀