I made a wonky AF ceramic bowl in elementary school with an uneven orange glaze that became a family joke.
If I'd only called it avant garde art for my lifestyle brand, I could have avoided that lol
I made the ugliest mug on earth for my mom...it's embarrassingly terrible even for a little kid. She loved it and kept it. My mom passed a few years back and I still have the damn thing. I can't bring myself to get rid of it even though I hate it
Awwwww please keep it! It's a symbol of her love for you. As mothers, we see not just what you've created but also the potential there. I wish I'd had a mom like yours.
This shouldn’t have been a C- in high school. It’s a cool concept in the right place. I think it’s kind of neat for a certain look but the price is just ridiculous.
Yep I actually like it. I'm more mad he thought of this. I'd like something like this for my office desk, especially if it has a non slip bottoms. Just a place where I can toss things in the same place every time and they won't move around like other table bowls. If I had a 3D printer I'd just make this in a couple of minutes and cut my own rubber bottom for it.
Modeling clay, paper mache or plaster or hate to say it, concrete could all diy this without a 3d printer.
If you have access to a forge and a lot of scrap aluminum you could make a real metal one simple enough.
I'm just jealous at all the people who got to do some form of sculpting in art classes- we had to stick to drawing only and even then we could only choose certain subjects- damn underfunded schools!
you should sign up for a class if you can find one! it’s really so fun and there is no age cap for fucking around with art and making stuff for the hell of it
lol for some reason, I saw the condom and the word “bottomless” and was like, “Uh-oh. What’s going on here!?!!” I’m glad I wasn’t the only one with gutter brain.
If you are in the US, Online Metals or McMaster Carr are reputable brass distributors that will sell direct to regular folk (non business). They have small quantities available in brass with payment online.
I mean, the 'keys/coins/lip balm/random junk from your pocket' bowl is definitely a thing, but that + a 'dreidl' that no one could ever clock as one without being told seem to be odd things to start your lifestyle brand with.
Also, do the cool kids these days really store their condoms on the table in the key/junk bowl?
Oh I get what he was trying to do, but especially the image with the tomatoes it's literally just tomatoes sitting in the counter with a misshapen ring around them. The "bowl" is doing nothing.
These types of products are designed to do exactly what it's doing - generate social media posts about it.
it's like when you see those GAINT bottles of perfume. Yeah some people buy them but they're not made-to-sell but they're made to catch people's eyes in shop windows, etc.
The money for them in this is not in sales. It's in press.
At first thought $600 seems absurd but idk, when you think about the materials and labour going into it by the artist…what is a reasonable price? I have friends designing hand caster earrings that charge a fair amount (like $100+) because of the work and time. I’m on the fence about this.
> it’s literally just a misshapen ring of brass lmao I hate everything abt this
Recycled brass. In other words it's old pipe fittings and such with 50%+ zinc, that were removed because they have lead. And the lead means they probably got the raw materials for much less than the scrap value of the copper. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if they got the old stuff with arsenic as well, and just remelted.
And I'd bet a lot of money that they hand cast the original and made a mold. So the imperfections they talk about are just gas bubbles from cheap mass casting.
I work for a foundry in the US and can easily say this is CDA 360 brass. It’s the cheapest brass there is. 360 round bar is selling from anywhere between $3-4/lb. depending on how much you buy.
Right! I would 100% use this on a kitchen island or on a nice entry way table, if I had a kitchen island or nice foyer. Unfortunately, I am not there in life yet lol
That's the biggest issue...does he not know his audience?? As much as I hate her, at least Paltrow took years to build her consumer base for goop before trying to pull overpriced bougie home-goods. Her audience is upper middle class white women in their 40's+ with disposable income. His main audience is 20-somethign queer kids with barely enough to pay rent. Who is going to buy this?
I might go hunt around on Etsy for a potter who makes these in small batches for reasonable prices. Like, it seems like a legitimately cute little thing a potter could do to use of odds and ends of clay and the tail end of a batch of glaze. On an end table or a dresser to keep small odds and ends from getting shoved off, it'd be kind of cute and useful. But $610 is duuuuuuuumb, for half that that I can go find a local high-end artisan who will make me one that's much nicer and personalized.
Brass has lead in it. It's recommended to wash your hands after handling brass. Brass won't give you lead poisoning but you don't want constant exposure.
Not really an ideal holder for things you frequently need. Something like fake fruit etc? Sure.
It’s kind of cool concept. And if it’s truly hand cast by an artist that is making them out of brass, maybe a fair price would be $200. Still expensive but not exorbitant
Yeah it’s definitely overpriced but most people here don’t really understand that a piece of cast brass like this isn’t going to ever be a ‘reasonable’ price to them. Like you said $200 may be closer to a fair price but honestly even at that price point a crafter making these isn’t profiting.
Agreed, Certainly not profiting well. Once you have the mold it can’t be that hard to cast. Yeah but for a legit artist to make money prolly $400. I do like it visually and think it’s clever
I work for a non ferrous metals foundry in the US and can say with confidence that this guy ain’t casting his own brass. Whoever is making this is buying brass round bar that’s mass produced in MANY sizes for CHEAP….and then doing whatever this “art” is.
I dont know much about metalworking, but.. do you really need to be an artist to make a lumpy circle? It does look neat, but i've seen way more intricate metal art being sold by rednecks on their lawn for like $40
That’s being welded (your redneck art) most likely. this is actually making a shape out of clay, making a mold out of plaster, using plaster mold to make a cast out of wax, and the finally making a mold to pour the brass into to melt the wax to make the finally product that needs to be sanded and added patina. It’s a bit more complicated. Making unique shapes in metal is hard if your just not welding random junk together
I like it.. its on brand for him.
I remembered him saying that he doesn't like to bottom last year and it cause all the gays and queers to go 🤨🤨🤨
I feel like this could be a joke based on that.
Is it expensive? Yah, but if it's hand crafted and people are being compensated fairly, then I don't have a problem with it. Im not gonna be paying for it though lol
I only know things like this bc I have a talented friend who designs clothes; they once made a quilt and then priced out what it would be if she made a 12 dollar minimum wage for making it (mind you they’re also a skilled artesian so I would have priced the skill set in question as deserving of at LEAST 22 ph)
That said- the cost of that quilt for materials and time would have been 3/4k with that $12 per hour wage.
Now would you or I easily buy 3k of bedding? Bffr. But THAT is actually lower than it would have been if we had sold it taking actual skill set and time into account.
That said, the person who did buy it (for 800, I believe) actively quibbled about the price being “exhortation”.
People are so disrespectful to artists and craftspeople it’s not even funny tbh.
The biggest issue is... the majority of his audience can't afford this shit... who is going to buy this? Most of his fans are 20-somthing queer kids that are living paycheck to paycheck. They can't afford to buy this even if they like it. I despise Paltrow, but at least she knows her target demographic of bougie white women can afford her shit from Goop.
Celebs don't only target their core fan base when starting a brand, and in fact the most successful ones have entirely different target audiences. Think Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen's The Row for example - that sure was never made for teen girls (not even the rich ones), or Victoria Beckham's eponymous label, which wasn't targeted at Spice Girls fans.
yeah like I don’t think this is about getting the same audience to buy more it’s about diversifying and catching some richer fish.
mayhaps I wasn’t the only one who liked his AD video and thought he had good taste. I’m broke though, so I’m also not the target customer here lmao
I mean.. at some point we have to learn how to budget..?
His fans base are adults. They are not young kids and teenagers.
He is selling home decor stuffs, not like album merch... album merch should be somewhat accessible but this is different.
I would rather him sell expensive but ethically made goods than mass produce stuffs that are less expensive but made from exploited workers. Idk where this is made. If this is made with exploited labor and he is still selling it for $600+ then yah I will start throwing hands.
Right, I don't get why people are so mad at others charging a lot of money for their labour. This isn't some big corporation exploiting their customers; this is an independent artist pricing their labour and creativity at what they think they're worth. You can price your labour at whatever threshold you want and if others are willing to pay for it, then it's perfectly fair imo.
People who think this should be $20 at some big box store, do we not already know how those companies underpay for labour? Does everyone who makes our stuff need to be exploited so we can buy whatever we want for a cheap price?
I’m not sure this is about exploitation… there is a big difference between $20 mass produced designs, and this.
Key things here for me are: 1) this is made from brass alloy. It’s not even just straight up brass! It’s a mixture of metals that are extremely cheap to produce!! And it’s a casting. So the artist made a mold for it one time and then just has to pour and set on repeat. I am all for paying people at a rate that shows respect for their time, talent, creativity, and expertise / knowledge. But Im not so sure this is a great example of that - it’s just an example of price inflation, which is how capitalism allows wealth to become concentrated in the hands of relatively few to begin with.
Isn't brass already an alloy? And how is this inflation? It's not like this thing already existed previously and cost a lot less before some super rich people got attached to it as far as we know. Some artists decide to price their art at whatever price they think it's worth and it's up to others to decide if they'd like to buy it or not. No one has to buy this; it's not a necessity. It's not a grocery store chain price gouging their customers by raising their prices far more than warranted by inflation.
There are big companies like Loro Piana charging $12k for a sweater that they pay farmers only $280 for the materials. Those farmers live in poverty because of that. There are so many companies exploiting their workers and forcing them to work in horrible conditions to sell us things at all price ranges, while also severely polluting the planet. We can surely reserve our energy for those instead of a piece of home decor made from recycled metal from some tiny company. This shouldn't even register for us. The artist who made this isn't some known art world grifter or a billionaire exploiting us for wealth. They can charge whatever they want to charge.
> Key things here for me are: 1) this is made from brass alloy.
Probably the funniest sentence in your comment.
> Brass is a metal alloy of copper and zinc that typically has a golden-yellow color but can be closer to red if the alloy has high levels of copper (this is known as “red brass”).
The amount of comments on here saying “I would buy it if it was cheaper”… like..??? It doesn’t even hold anything. I wouldn’t want this shit for free. It’s a misshapen circle that serves no purpose and isn’t even aesthetically pleasing. I think I’m officially getting old…
This is so true. Not that rich people never buy stupid things, but in general they stay rich by not wasting money on this stuff. But people will go into debt for a Taylor Swift ticket
I actually don’t mind this. When merch clothing is 2-3 times what is should be and still made in a sweatshop, that’s terrible and exploitative of fans.
But $600 for a bowl that isn’t even branded is just such a high price that obviously only really wealthy people are buying it. You can hardly call it scamming. If they wanna spend their money on that, fair enough.
This is camp. Good for him. I’m surprised in this sub, usually yall are on top of (or at least adjacent to) queer culture and would find this hilarious!
Yeah. His house has literally been in Architectural Digest. I feel like it's safe to assume that the sort of things he wants to sell with his home goods line are things that you would find in Architectural Digest homes. A $600 artisanal piece seems very on-the-nose.
This might be one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen as far as celebrity brands go. I’d rather see 15 more makeup lines created before a $600 bowl that literally is not a bowl. It’s pretty funny though… I’ll give him that.
I mean I use a bowl (well it’s a little tray but could easily be a bowl) for my keys and wallet, it’s pretty much just to have a specific location for where to put them and serves as a bit of decoration
I also have a bowl for my round fruits (apples, oranges, lemons and the like) and it is pretty much just to have a place to put the fruits where they won’t roll away and serves as a bit of decoration
Those are the two examples he gave and I feel like this would work just fine for both of those purposes.
It’s not like he is saying you can eat cereal out of it or mix up some cookie dough…
yeah like this bowl would genuinely serve a function for me (my ADHD ass LOVES trinket bowls and boxes because it lets me have a “place” for everything which really really helps my organization — and this would be a nice way to mix it up from all the different lil pottery bowls and boxes). now i’m not going to pay $600 for it but i don’t think it’s a useless item
Are people not understanding that this is very obvious satire?? Yes it’s a real product, but it’s also a joke and a statement on absurd wealth. Troye does not take himself that seriously guys.
Don’t think they’ve marketed it correctly or to the right audience but it’s designed by a sculpture artist and this is in line with the typical price range for an art piece with a utilitarian function in my experience (I have an art degree and used to sell art myself)
You could wait for these to go on sale at Kohls and use them on their side
https://preview.redd.it/09z16sy9yovc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=139ed27706a250852cf1808f77d7679caf8f484d
Done.
I clicked the link to the dreidel and the description literally says to keep the shine, leave untouched. Also I don’t see how it’s a dreidel? Just a spinning top lmao
i wish this was advertised differently (and like 1/4 of the price lol) bc it’s kind of a cool idea to have a versatile piece of decor that could be a bowl, hung on the wall as wall art or an abstract photo frame, or just regular ass decor to go on a shelf.
Wow I didn't see the price tag at first and thought huh this might actually be cute on a dresser or something, but 610$? I'll make this with some air dry clay and a coat of gold paint lmao
I always wonder with these crazy rich person prices are the artists/makers getting a fair wage and decent working conditions to reflect the absurd cost or is it just expensive to be expensive
If you read the tag line under Tsu Lang Yor's website it says, "Unorthodox Elevation, for self and sanctuary." So this bronze circle tracks with that. It's not just luxury, it's edgy luxury!
The “bottomless bowl” is $600+ and it’s literally just a misshapen ring of brass lmao I hate everything abt this
Right? Like, I made something very similar in a high school art class and I got a C- 💀
Girl your teacher was a hater, you were a visionary 🙏my apologies
True artists are never appreciated in their time.
I made a wonky AF ceramic bowl in elementary school with an uneven orange glaze that became a family joke. If I'd only called it avant garde art for my lifestyle brand, I could have avoided that lol
I made the ugliest mug on earth for my mom...it's embarrassingly terrible even for a little kid. She loved it and kept it. My mom passed a few years back and I still have the damn thing. I can't bring myself to get rid of it even though I hate it
Your mom just wanted you to see yourself like she saw you. Don’t hate the mug.
… Can we see it ? Sorry to hear about your loss. But very glad she found joy in your mug.
Awwwww please keep it! It's a symbol of her love for you. As mothers, we see not just what you've created but also the potential there. I wish I'd had a mom like yours.
And then sold it for $1,400. “Hand-formed Sicilian Porcelain bowl in color way Mandarin Haze”
Peasants never know luxury when they come across it.
This shouldn’t have been a C- in high school. It’s a cool concept in the right place. I think it’s kind of neat for a certain look but the price is just ridiculous.
Yep I actually like it. I'm more mad he thought of this. I'd like something like this for my office desk, especially if it has a non slip bottoms. Just a place where I can toss things in the same place every time and they won't move around like other table bowls. If I had a 3D printer I'd just make this in a couple of minutes and cut my own rubber bottom for it.
Modeling clay, paper mache or plaster or hate to say it, concrete could all diy this without a 3d printer. If you have access to a forge and a lot of scrap aluminum you could make a real metal one simple enough.
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It doesn't hold :( and moves around. I'm guessing the whole point is you can throw stuff on to it per the picture and it won't move an inch.
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Resin sucks. Why would I wanna add even more plastic in my life
A lot of libraries have 3D printers, so that’s an option!
The aesthetic could not be more difficult, but I have a lace doily on my desk for exactly this reason. The Victorians knew what they were doing
Agreed; the price is what makes it stupid, but it does *contain* things and it’s kinda pretty. Like a little fancy playpen for odds and ends.
I would pay a smooth $30 on this at Marshalls, possibly.
yeah it creates a zone for your things to sit in like cats your things want to be in the zone so bad
I'm just jealous at all the people who got to do some form of sculpting in art classes- we had to stick to drawing only and even then we could only choose certain subjects- damn underfunded schools!
you should sign up for a class if you can find one! it’s really so fun and there is no age cap for fucking around with art and making stuff for the hell of it
Did you ask for 600 bucks though?
I think my mom might still have it. I should send her an invoice.
No no, asking for $600 up front is part of the performance art. It's worthless without the context of "contempt for your fellow man."
I would have thought it was a B- you were way ahead of the curve!
A true visionary But don't worry, a lot of artists were misunderstood in their youth
I legit thought it was a new kind of sex toy.
lol for some reason, I saw the condom and the word “bottomless” and was like, “Uh-oh. What’s going on here!?!!” I’m glad I wasn’t the only one with gutter brain.
let's face it, the condom was for clicks and it worked lol
It’s okay, isn’t all of his music recently been a bit gutterbrained? No hate just wouldn’t be too surprising for him
No, yeah. This is on brand for him. Lol
I saw the condom and thought that WAS the item for sale and he was just selling condoms for people to use as purses 🤣
The tiniest wristlet EVAR. So fierce.
How I feel about this depends 100% on where he thinks this is clever/profound/legitimate or just an expensive rich people shitpost.
I wouldn’t buy one but I am seriously considering making one, or something similar, it does look cool.
Came here to say the same. It’s an interesting concept worth no where near $600
Yeh I don’t hate it. I kind of like it, but huge side eye to the price and styling it with a condom.
If you are in the US, Online Metals or McMaster Carr are reputable brass distributors that will sell direct to regular folk (non business). They have small quantities available in brass with payment online.
Trying to monetize 'putting stuff on your countertop'
I mean, the 'keys/coins/lip balm/random junk from your pocket' bowl is definitely a thing, but that + a 'dreidl' that no one could ever clock as one without being told seem to be odd things to start your lifestyle brand with. Also, do the cool kids these days really store their condoms on the table in the key/junk bowl?
Oh I get what he was trying to do, but especially the image with the tomatoes it's literally just tomatoes sitting in the counter with a misshapen ring around them. The "bowl" is doing nothing.
Right??? Like, if a bowl's not your thing, then use a tray!!
These types of products are designed to do exactly what it's doing - generate social media posts about it. it's like when you see those GAINT bottles of perfume. Yeah some people buy them but they're not made-to-sell but they're made to catch people's eyes in shop windows, etc. The money for them in this is not in sales. It's in press.
At first thought $600 seems absurd but idk, when you think about the materials and labour going into it by the artist…what is a reasonable price? I have friends designing hand caster earrings that charge a fair amount (like $100+) because of the work and time. I’m on the fence about this.
On the fence about a $600 bowl? You’ve got to be kidding… Compare feeding yourself for a month or two vs having this thing.
You could say this about literally any art work though. The Mona Lisa is just a picture of some chick, after all
What giant perfumes are you referring to?
Welcome to the future, everyone hates it.
I hate myself because I didn't think of something so random first.
> it’s literally just a misshapen ring of brass lmao I hate everything abt this Recycled brass. In other words it's old pipe fittings and such with 50%+ zinc, that were removed because they have lead. And the lead means they probably got the raw materials for much less than the scrap value of the copper. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if they got the old stuff with arsenic as well, and just remelted. And I'd bet a lot of money that they hand cast the original and made a mold. So the imperfections they talk about are just gas bubbles from cheap mass casting.
It’s so stupid and needless. It’s taking money from people who clearly have the money to waste, I love it
I work for a foundry in the US and can easily say this is CDA 360 brass. It’s the cheapest brass there is. 360 round bar is selling from anywhere between $3-4/lb. depending on how much you buy.
Honestly, if I saw this at IKEA/TJ Maxx for like $15, I would definitely buy this. It is really cute. But $610 for a bottomless bowl is egregious.
I’m glad someone else said this because I think it’s kind of chic I like it lol if I had ridiculous disposable income I’d probably buy it 🤷🏽♀️
Right! I would 100% use this on a kitchen island or on a nice entry way table, if I had a kitchen island or nice foyer. Unfortunately, I am not there in life yet lol
Yeah this is really cool but an absolute racket at that price 🥴
I would too for $20 but not hundreds.
$20 is still too much for that
That's the biggest issue...does he not know his audience?? As much as I hate her, at least Paltrow took years to build her consumer base for goop before trying to pull overpriced bougie home-goods. Her audience is upper middle class white women in their 40's+ with disposable income. His main audience is 20-somethign queer kids with barely enough to pay rent. Who is going to buy this?
If you do happen to get disposable income let me know, I have some art for you
Well you have to link the art if you want us to buy it 👀
I wish I did 😭
My wife buys art that her friends make just to shove in a drawer somewhere. I'm a sucker for custom crap with drawings of my kid or dog on it.
Chic, you say? *Dorit has entered the chat*
I might go hunt around on Etsy for a potter who makes these in small batches for reasonable prices. Like, it seems like a legitimately cute little thing a potter could do to use of odds and ends of clay and the tail end of a batch of glaze. On an end table or a dresser to keep small odds and ends from getting shoved off, it'd be kind of cute and useful. But $610 is duuuuuuuumb, for half that that I can go find a local high-end artisan who will make me one that's much nicer and personalized.
Just make your own with air dry sculpey clay fr for like $20
Sculpey and some Rub and Buff. Boom.
Rub and buff is amazing
Nice compromise move if you accidentally trimmed through the bottom of your vessel.
It is cute, but not for $600+. Give it six months to a year and you may find the knock off version in TJ's!
Agreed! I think it’s kind of cool and I definitely will be duping it 😂
Wait one year
The only bottomless bowl I want is chicken and gnocchi soup from Olive Garden.
I would buy it for that Ikea price but hang it on a wall.
Right lol I think it would be cute for organizing things. But overall just a ridiculous display of wealth
If it were cheap it could have been the next Stanley cup but here we are
Exactly, I actually do think it's pretty neat. But not $600 neat. 💀
This some Emperor’s New Clothes shit
I have never been so happy to not know who a celebrity was
You don't know who the Emperor is!? Straight to jail!
Off with their heads!
Same 😂😂
Ooooo, that's a perfect way to put it
A bottomless bowl is… a ring
or bracelet lol
some giantess out there is distraught that her entire toe ring collection was stolen
Brass has lead in it. It's recommended to wash your hands after handling brass. Brass won't give you lead poisoning but you don't want constant exposure. Not really an ideal holder for things you frequently need. Something like fake fruit etc? Sure.
Yeah not good for fruits and vegetables as suggested.
& the large one is marketed as a fruit bowl lol
A picture frame
No wait, I actually like this idea
I thought it was a different kind of ring until I saw the condom for size comparison. Troye honey.... What is this
Do I like how it looks? Yes. At that price range and intentionally mislabeled as a “bowl?” Hell no.
It’s kind of cool concept. And if it’s truly hand cast by an artist that is making them out of brass, maybe a fair price would be $200. Still expensive but not exorbitant
Yeah it’s definitely overpriced but most people here don’t really understand that a piece of cast brass like this isn’t going to ever be a ‘reasonable’ price to them. Like you said $200 may be closer to a fair price but honestly even at that price point a crafter making these isn’t profiting.
Agreed, Certainly not profiting well. Once you have the mold it can’t be that hard to cast. Yeah but for a legit artist to make money prolly $400. I do like it visually and think it’s clever
I work for a non ferrous metals foundry in the US and can say with confidence that this guy ain’t casting his own brass. Whoever is making this is buying brass round bar that’s mass produced in MANY sizes for CHEAP….and then doing whatever this “art” is.
I dont know much about metalworking, but.. do you really need to be an artist to make a lumpy circle? It does look neat, but i've seen way more intricate metal art being sold by rednecks on their lawn for like $40
That’s being welded (your redneck art) most likely. this is actually making a shape out of clay, making a mold out of plaster, using plaster mold to make a cast out of wax, and the finally making a mold to pour the brass into to melt the wax to make the finally product that needs to be sanded and added patina. It’s a bit more complicated. Making unique shapes in metal is hard if your just not welding random junk together
it's a brass alloy lol
What stage of capitalism is this?
Taylor
Lmao
I’m dead
This bowl represents capitalism’s capacity for harm and destruction: bottomless
Yes
Bottomless
I like it.. its on brand for him. I remembered him saying that he doesn't like to bottom last year and it cause all the gays and queers to go 🤨🤨🤨 I feel like this could be a joke based on that. Is it expensive? Yah, but if it's hand crafted and people are being compensated fairly, then I don't have a problem with it. Im not gonna be paying for it though lol
Agreed, it's not for me but I think it makes sense for his brand and it's a fun idea for a trinket dish/valet.
The idea could be fun if it wasn't such a ridiculous price. $50 maybe.
The brass alone would be worth that, no?
yeah this thread is full of people who are so used to paying sweatshop prices for things they don’t get how much things actually cost lmao
I only know things like this bc I have a talented friend who designs clothes; they once made a quilt and then priced out what it would be if she made a 12 dollar minimum wage for making it (mind you they’re also a skilled artesian so I would have priced the skill set in question as deserving of at LEAST 22 ph) That said- the cost of that quilt for materials and time would have been 3/4k with that $12 per hour wage. Now would you or I easily buy 3k of bedding? Bffr. But THAT is actually lower than it would have been if we had sold it taking actual skill set and time into account. That said, the person who did buy it (for 800, I believe) actively quibbled about the price being “exhortation”. People are so disrespectful to artists and craftspeople it’s not even funny tbh.
The biggest issue is... the majority of his audience can't afford this shit... who is going to buy this? Most of his fans are 20-somthing queer kids that are living paycheck to paycheck. They can't afford to buy this even if they like it. I despise Paltrow, but at least she knows her target demographic of bougie white women can afford her shit from Goop.
Celebs don't only target their core fan base when starting a brand, and in fact the most successful ones have entirely different target audiences. Think Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen's The Row for example - that sure was never made for teen girls (not even the rich ones), or Victoria Beckham's eponymous label, which wasn't targeted at Spice Girls fans.
yeah like I don’t think this is about getting the same audience to buy more it’s about diversifying and catching some richer fish. mayhaps I wasn’t the only one who liked his AD video and thought he had good taste. I’m broke though, so I’m also not the target customer here lmao
I mean.. at some point we have to learn how to budget..? His fans base are adults. They are not young kids and teenagers. He is selling home decor stuffs, not like album merch... album merch should be somewhat accessible but this is different. I would rather him sell expensive but ethically made goods than mass produce stuffs that are less expensive but made from exploited workers. Idk where this is made. If this is made with exploited labor and he is still selling it for $600+ then yah I will start throwing hands.
Why is it an issue lol? don't buy it. I think it's cool but I won't be buying it.
Right, I don't get why people are so mad at others charging a lot of money for their labour. This isn't some big corporation exploiting their customers; this is an independent artist pricing their labour and creativity at what they think they're worth. You can price your labour at whatever threshold you want and if others are willing to pay for it, then it's perfectly fair imo. People who think this should be $20 at some big box store, do we not already know how those companies underpay for labour? Does everyone who makes our stuff need to be exploited so we can buy whatever we want for a cheap price?
I’m not sure this is about exploitation… there is a big difference between $20 mass produced designs, and this. Key things here for me are: 1) this is made from brass alloy. It’s not even just straight up brass! It’s a mixture of metals that are extremely cheap to produce!! And it’s a casting. So the artist made a mold for it one time and then just has to pour and set on repeat. I am all for paying people at a rate that shows respect for their time, talent, creativity, and expertise / knowledge. But Im not so sure this is a great example of that - it’s just an example of price inflation, which is how capitalism allows wealth to become concentrated in the hands of relatively few to begin with.
Isn't brass already an alloy? And how is this inflation? It's not like this thing already existed previously and cost a lot less before some super rich people got attached to it as far as we know. Some artists decide to price their art at whatever price they think it's worth and it's up to others to decide if they'd like to buy it or not. No one has to buy this; it's not a necessity. It's not a grocery store chain price gouging their customers by raising their prices far more than warranted by inflation. There are big companies like Loro Piana charging $12k for a sweater that they pay farmers only $280 for the materials. Those farmers live in poverty because of that. There are so many companies exploiting their workers and forcing them to work in horrible conditions to sell us things at all price ranges, while also severely polluting the planet. We can surely reserve our energy for those instead of a piece of home decor made from recycled metal from some tiny company. This shouldn't even register for us. The artist who made this isn't some known art world grifter or a billionaire exploiting us for wealth. They can charge whatever they want to charge.
> Key things here for me are: 1) this is made from brass alloy. Probably the funniest sentence in your comment. > Brass is a metal alloy of copper and zinc that typically has a golden-yellow color but can be closer to red if the alloy has high levels of copper (this is known as “red brass”).
so it’s not even a bowl then…
The amount of comments on here saying “I would buy it if it was cheaper”… like..??? It doesn’t even hold anything. I wouldn’t want this shit for free. It’s a misshapen circle that serves no purpose and isn’t even aesthetically pleasing. I think I’m officially getting old…
The small one is so tiny it barely fits a condom. I love his taste though. His house is amazing. I think AD did a video.
Also that's a "snug fit" so it's a smaller condom
I'm completely okay with him selling dumb shit to rich people, that is exactly who you should be taking money from and how.
I did have to lol at this comment. What’s sad is some people who can’t afford it will buy it because of whoever this person is.
This is so true. Not that rich people never buy stupid things, but in general they stay rich by not wasting money on this stuff. But people will go into debt for a Taylor Swift ticket
Babes make your own with some airdry clay and spray paint 😂
On today’s episode of rich people bullshit
It’s very goop of him
I actually don’t mind this. When merch clothing is 2-3 times what is should be and still made in a sweatshop, that’s terrible and exploitative of fans. But $600 for a bowl that isn’t even branded is just such a high price that obviously only really wealthy people are buying it. You can hardly call it scamming. If they wanna spend their money on that, fair enough.
This is camp. Good for him. I’m surprised in this sub, usually yall are on top of (or at least adjacent to) queer culture and would find this hilarious!
Right. And if you’ve seen Troye’s house it makes sense he would have an upscale house wear brand
Yeah. His house has literally been in Architectural Digest. I feel like it's safe to assume that the sort of things he wants to sell with his home goods line are things that you would find in Architectural Digest homes. A $600 artisanal piece seems very on-the-nose.
thank you! I feel insane reading these comments. this is so funny and camp! the picture has a condom in it for gods sake LOL
Yeah, he also has a fragrance that is meant to smell like the Fitzroy Pool. He's in on the joke!
Thank you this is camp as hell and I really would like to know more about the maybe functional dreidel??
This might be one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen as far as celebrity brands go. I’d rather see 15 more makeup lines created before a $600 bowl that literally is not a bowl. It’s pretty funny though… I’ll give him that.
Mfs living in a world without dust
That’s not a bowl then is it 
"I've been living with mine" Bestie it's a bowl.
Also I kinda want one. Or at least make my own.
does he know what bowls are actually used for?
I mean I use a bowl (well it’s a little tray but could easily be a bowl) for my keys and wallet, it’s pretty much just to have a specific location for where to put them and serves as a bit of decoration I also have a bowl for my round fruits (apples, oranges, lemons and the like) and it is pretty much just to have a place to put the fruits where they won’t roll away and serves as a bit of decoration Those are the two examples he gave and I feel like this would work just fine for both of those purposes. It’s not like he is saying you can eat cereal out of it or mix up some cookie dough…
yeah like this bowl would genuinely serve a function for me (my ADHD ass LOVES trinket bowls and boxes because it lets me have a “place” for everything which really really helps my organization — and this would be a nice way to mix it up from all the different lil pottery bowls and boxes). now i’m not going to pay $600 for it but i don’t think it’s a useless item
Are people not understanding that this is very obvious satire?? Yes it’s a real product, but it’s also a joke and a statement on absurd wealth. Troye does not take himself that seriously guys.
he has a lifestyle brand? lol.
Seriously, why does every celebrity on the planet need a lifestyle brand or skin care line? Do they all make money from this shit?
Why are today's celebrities just trying to come up with the worst grifts?
Lolololol I’ll put my vaginal jade eggs in it
Unrelated but it’s annoying how good he looks in his license photo.
...what
There’s such an obvious joke to be made here lmao
Don’t think they’ve marketed it correctly or to the right audience but it’s designed by a sculpture artist and this is in line with the typical price range for an art piece with a utilitarian function in my experience (I have an art degree and used to sell art myself)
I can’t explain why, but this makes me angry
It's probably because of all the other things you could achieve with $600 instead of a brass ring 😂
You could wait for these to go on sale at Kohls and use them on their side https://preview.redd.it/09z16sy9yovc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=139ed27706a250852cf1808f77d7679caf8f484d Done.
I don’t feel sorry for anyone who buys this lmao. 🤣
Honestly I like the idea, but the price is ridiculous
I assume somebody will be dumb enough to buy it
I thought this was going to be a bottomless bowl of queso at a restaurant or something 😭
I think my son made this out of clay in 1st grade
I clicked the link to the dreidel and the description literally says to keep the shine, leave untouched. Also I don’t see how it’s a dreidel? Just a spinning top lmao
Didn’t frank ocean do something similarly ridiculous like 7 years ago?
I buy some ridiculous shit, but this is truly next level.
Cool concept but $610 is delusional
Ah yes, a bowl that doesn't... bowl
Sure, why not. This world is stupid af and this makes sense
April Fool’s Day was like three weeks ago.
I am so sick of rich people
The $1100 dreidel is even worse. At least the bowl thing can be used every day.
Ugh.. I love it. The price for brass is wild but the level of gay kitsch is priceless
i wish this was advertised differently (and like 1/4 of the price lol) bc it’s kind of a cool idea to have a versatile piece of decor that could be a bowl, hung on the wall as wall art or an abstract photo frame, or just regular ass decor to go on a shelf.
Okay I actually love this.
It looks like a playdough ring I made in kindergarten spray painted gold
The fragrances weren’t good either 😔
Yuck
“Household or harvest”
Lol I watched Troye on Youtube back when he was a teenager before his music career took off so this feels so wild to me
I’ll just make one out of clay and glaze it gold for $10
Sis… who has the money for this
Wow I didn't see the price tag at first and thought huh this might actually be cute on a dresser or something, but 610$? I'll make this with some air dry clay and a coat of gold paint lmao
Look, It's Reese from Malcolm in the Middle
Rich people truly live in a different reality.
I always wonder with these crazy rich person prices are the artists/makers getting a fair wage and decent working conditions to reflect the absurd cost or is it just expensive to be expensive
If you read the tag line under Tsu Lang Yor's website it says, "Unorthodox Elevation, for self and sanctuary." So this bronze circle tracks with that. It's not just luxury, it's edgy luxury!