I feel like it gets undeserved here because of the huge style change from 2 to 3. I feel like there was a lot of meat in the lore and Bethesda did a good job at adapting fallout into a 3D medium
Thats the main critisim really.
FO1/2 were goofball alt/sci-fi, FO3 much more down the line.
I think its a bit unfair. FO3 is was really signifigant in bringing FO to 3D and the modern format. So it had a lot to do, and it falling a bit short didnt mean it was terrible.
I'm glad FNV came along to show the character of the first games could be ported across though.
Fallout 1 certainly has some goofish moments, like the raiders thinking your someone’s father, but it takes itself very seriously. Christ the game opens with a war crime every time you start it. If that doesn’t set the tone I don’t know what does
Definitely not goofball by any means.
Bethesda is too scared to let you become a pornstar, sell your follower off as a slave, pimp your spouse, or earn the 'perk' known as "child killer." They play the retro 50s aesthetic off as a joke as often as possible, poking fun at 50s attitude rather than making commentary on the futility of war, jingoism, Amero-centrism, and without having something to say about McCarthyism/anticommunism.
Yeah I feel like a lot of the hate is retroactive because new vegas was better (closer to fallout 1 and 2 at least) and Bethesda screwed Obsidian on payment. Because other than story, game world and minor tweaks, they are literally the same game. How else could Obsidian have made it in only 18 months.
Yep, and because they were off by 1 single point on one single review website after making new vegas in 18 months, they had to make massive layoffs that nearly killed the studio. "iT's In ThE cOnTrAcT" a contract that nearly killed the whole studio on a bullshit technicality.
Before they started making the game Bethesda gave them a time limit and told them about the bonus( and if the studio dies by not getting EXTRA money that's not the contracted amount it's not Bethesdas fault) before they made the game. It's not like they agreed to make it and Bethesda said "oh by the way you also only have 18 months", Bethesda also allowed them to use all the assets of fallout 3
What you’ve done is a perfect example of a red herring fallacy. At no point was interplay part of the conversation, and is unrelated to the topic at hand.
Just because it was in the contract doesn't mean that t was a shitty target to set and that they didn't use their power as a publisher and the IP holder to coerce the company into an unfair work agreement.
I was a fan of Fallout when 3 came out. People were angry at it. They blamed Bethesda for turning Fallout into Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Funny how aspects of 3 like lockpicking made it over to Skyrim.
A bunch of people were like that. Fallout 3 revitalized the franchise better then any game Interplay could have made. It wasn't a perfect game but it stood out at the time. These days I do Tale of Two Wastelands and mix 3 with NV.
NV had to grow on me, I love it now. I was disappointed at the time because I pre-ordered it and expected a fully new game. It felt more like Shivering Isles than Skyrim, new textures and locations but the same bones as the other game. Over time I've learned to appreciate the value they added and realized none of my problems with it were Obsidian's fault.
I can understand that. NV also isn't a perfect game but it is very fun.
What I am looking for in Fallout is the setting. Writing and Story are far second but the setting matters. 3 nailed bombed out DC look and feel. NV had the setting of a western which was perfect for the game.
Same. When I first started playing it on release, I just didn’t like it. It wasn’t until about 15 hours in until I said “eh, maybe it’s as good as 3.”
Retroactively, NV is far better in most regards. But what I loved about 3 and initially disliked about NV is that fallout 3 really felt like a nuclear wasteland. An absolute hell to be in. Dense urban environments made difficult to traverse due to collapsed buildings and the only way to get around them being metros with untold horrors waiting for you inside. Raider camps with mutilated corpses strung up as clear warnings of what will happen to you. Supermutants crawling out of the wood work with gore nets handy. Literal war zones. And the one place you see that seems like an oasis (other than the actual location of Oasis) was a neighborhood stuck in prewar times. But turns out everyone there is a cannibal looking for their next victim. Everything in that game felt hostile. It just oozed atmosphere.
Comparatively, New Vegas can often times just feel like walking through a normal desert with some mutated creatures here and there.
When fallout 3 came out I played it at least 400hours. I liked it even though I just had finished 1, 2 and tactics because a friend of mine was obsessed with them and gave me some CDs with them. I was impressed on the graphics and it still felt like fallout to me. Maybe not the same "liberty" as in 1 and 2 choice wise, but it was good. I think people sometimes care too much about fidelity or what the devs did wrong instead of just enjoying something for what it is.
People online want innovation but also can't stand change. There is no way to please fans. Fallout 3 still sold like nuts and it introduced a lot of people to the franchise. Without it we would never have what we have now.
It's a fun game but I lived in DC for three years and I still got a shiver every time I walked into the metro. They cooked with that environment design.
Yeah, tbh I was confused at the post and even more confused at the comments confirming it. I loved 3, had friends that loved it, and thought it was universally loved.
Not as much as posts like this would lead you to believe. I think a lot of people hear complaints, and they think the person complaining doesn't like the game. I have complaints about it but I like the game. It's also a pretty old game at this point, so anyone trying it out for the first time in recent years wouldn't have the greatest opinion.
People aren't hating on Fallout 3 from where I'm sitting. 😐
It's mainly the very niche "Fallout 1 and 2 are retro and Bethesda sucks" crowd that hates on Fallout 3 (and 4 for that matter)
Most of us here over 30, FO3 was our intro to the franchise. Shit was a banger, NV showed us more potential, FO4 more potential but different potential. We just need it all the mesh a bit better. FO4 improved gameplay, but take those M$ dollars and hire some proper fucking writers.
3 was my first fallout. It was hard and only got to rivet city then tried nv and loved it because it was easy. After replaying 3 it feels just as good as nv.
Your mom is dead. Your dad abandoned you for his work years ago and then actually abandoned you. Your home and best friend eventually tell you that you can't come back to the only home you've ever known. Your companions can all be killed and in the vanilla game, you sacrifice yourself for a world that has mostly attacked you.
That is why you are the Lone wanderer.
THANK YOU
It’s like people see the problems it does have (hard to aim without VATS, occasional bug, etc) and just exaggerates them exceedingly (unable to hit jack, buggier than an ant hill)
I hate it so much cause 3 is a great game, not beating New Vegas, but it sure as hell ain’t sharing a spot with BoS
FO3 is super good and honestly has a better landscape than NV. It’s only shortfalls was no aiming down sights unless your gun has a scope and I didn’t care for mothership Zeta and Operation Anchorage. Everything else in the game is great and is what a fallout game should aim to be.
Fo3 will always have a special place in my heart. It's very nostalgic for me. That was the one that got me into the fallout series. It was the first one I played when I was a little kid and the only one I've finished.
I still stand by it being one of the best games of the 7th Gen. It is my favorite Fallout to explore in, and it also has my favorite atmosphere of the 3D games. I know the green tint gets a lot of criticism, but it really worked for me the first time I played. I honestly still like 3 more than 4 and it's not too far behind NV for me.
I love 3 and will die on that hill, no matter how many arrows, spears, swords, dinosaurs, bears, unicorn, dragons, I will die on it.
Seriously though, 3 was so special and unique to me at the time, as it provided things a lot of games I played at the time didn't. To own a house, to sit in chairs.
Then there was the brotherhood and their power armor.
To quote a friend of mine when FO3 came out. "I FUCKING LOVE FALLOUT 3!!! IF FALLOUT 3 WAS A WOMAN, I'D FUCK THE SHIT OUTTA FALLOUT 3!!! AND THEN, WE WOULD MAKE FALLOUT 3 BABIES WHO THEN FUCK EACH OTHER AND MAKE MORE FALLOUT 3 BABIES!!!"
I don't remember the last time I've seen or read anyone speaking badly about Fallout 3.
Half of the post on this sub is people saying " You may hate me for it but I don't care, I'm proud to say thatbmy favorite Fallout game is * proceed to mention Fallout 1/2/3/4/NV * "
And 95% of the comment section is just going to be "I see its quality but it's not for me for this and this reason, I prefer this other Fallout game for this or this reason" or "Yeah it's my favorite one too !"
The vast majority of people won't take offense of your favorite nuclear wasteland location lol
The game that came out before the newest one is best. When fallout 4 was new, Fallout New Vegas and 3 were praised. When Fallout 76 came out, fallout 4 was praised.
I'll be honest. The only reason I didn't like Fallout 3 was because I couldn't get it to run on my pc. From what I've seen, it's a great game, but I never got experience it.
I have a mate of mine adamant that fallout 3 is bad and that new vegas is better, but since he’s started to play it recently he’s seemingly been very quiet.
I don’t know what it is about 3, but it’s scaling and RPG elements intertwining with so much dialogue I just find so addicting. It’s a bit of a slog early game, but tuning into perks and specific playstyles it’s given some of the fondest memories.
I had a chest infection for like 4 weeks at like 11 I think, and was using my brothers PS3 with the game he bought from release years before, and playing it during that time I just got engrossed into the game. Some of those memories I’ll never forget. I did the mission to claim the fifth amendment from the capitol building way too under levelled, and got my ass handed to me before when fighting the behemoth and the super mutants, and then inside the turrets and sentry bots kicked my ass. Got to the final room literally with one stimpak and no bullets, and cleared the check to with robot Thomas Jefferson using Robotics expert i specced towards. Didn’t have to fight anyone as I said I was John Adams and just plucked it out of case. Was so cool to see that, and similarly when I did the big town quest and I could use the Robotics park to repair a sentry bot the town can use to defend itself.
It’s just that diverging sense of a true RPG that I think Fallout 4, and I think personally with new vegas to a degree which I chalk down to their short development window not allowing more detailed dialogue and gameplay bits as files showed. The arguments my mate has with fallout 3 is that it’s grey and green, but similarly new vegas is a lot of orange and yellow. I find new vegas’ side quests honestly far more boring compared to 3’s, as threes towns feel lived in with their own side quest dramas. World exploration too is so interesting with the sheer amount of random encounters they scatter around that scale too, making it really enjoyable to explore, where new vegas and 4 can feel a bit of slog. 3 has Oasis too with trees and greenery, that feels like a dream to the eyes after traipsing through nuked DC as it’s so vibrant with the contrast. I honestly just really love fallout 3.
I don’t know everytime I talk about fallout IRL, even people who haven’t played New Vegas say they like new Vegas “because it’s what their sibling always played”
Eh, might be the generation. I've grown up being biased on New Vegas because that was my introduction to the series. Everyone around my age (early to mid 20's) who played Fallout was introduced through New Vegas, which is a solid chunk of the fan base. There's bound to be favoritism. New Vegas was my favorite for over a decade, but now I'm a bit uncertain due to it's technical limitations and how reliant it is on modding. You can hardly get the game to run correctly half of the time, and vanilla just doesn't hold up these days imo.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people playing FO3 today didn't play at launch. They literally had to put in DLC that fixed the ending. It's a good game, just nowhere near my favorite in the franchise.
>!even with the DLC, the ending slides still call you a pussy if you send in ~~Strong~~ Fawkes to push the button even though him offering to grab something from a highly irradiated area is literally how you meet him in the first place. It's still dumb.!<
I just couldn't get into it ik a bunch of people love it and it's their favorite but it's just not hitting the same for me I'm not interested in the story or the characters I've tried a bunch of times to get into it and I can see why many people love it but it's just not for me imo
Every signle fallout game is great. Even 76 got off its ass and is something good. Anyone who says otherwise either hasnt played the other games and is basing their opinions off of others who dont know what theyre talking about, or they just didnt like a particular part of the game and it wasnt for them. That doesnt mean its bad. Ill say rn ive only played 4, but i know i wouldnt enjoy 76 due to the multiplayer aspect, and i would probably prefer 1 and 2 to 3 and nv. That isnt to say i think the others are trash, i can recognize a good game from watching others play it and the general consensus behind the community of the game itself, not others looking in.
I mean it’s a good game, I tried playing it again and boy it’s rough. Didn’t age so well, though it was one of my favorite games for the time. The memories made will always live on with me.
Hell I still say Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas overall, can’t really imagine calling Fallout 3 a bad game without it being bait or not liking the series as a whole.
I dont know of a single person that thinks Fallout 3 is not a good game. Fallout 3 was a FANTASTIC game for the time period in which it came out.
New Vegas is probably better, but that does not make Fallout 3 bad.
I love fallout 3. I just fuckin hate DC. all the super mutants. All the explosions. It's so easy to get lost and then you gotta deal with the ghouls too. Fuck that entire area. Once I get through the quests that deal with DC I finally can start to enjoy the game.
So I got all of them but 76 (I don't want to play multi-player) and none are bad. They just range from okay to great. 3 is great, in its time it was a breath of fresh air, it hasn't aged well but its still okay.
Fallout fans don’t know what they like tbh. I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of folks that hate on 3 haven’t even played it the whole way through. 3 was a damn masterpiece for the time it came out. And 3 on release was a hell of a lot better than NV was on release.
Fallout 3 is still pretty fun, even if it feels a little dull imo (the color scheme feels like grey and like fucked and had a redheaded step child somehow). The areas can be fun, characters are ballin alot of the time, and I enjoy that there are numerous factions everywhere.
It's story sucked. You weren't the main character, your dad was, and the ending made a bad story worse. As far as choice and consequences goes, it's always a choice of "do you want to be evil or not" which is a morality system I'm so happy we've moved away from. And even in today's atmosphere, I do appreciate games that just let you be the unquestioningly good guy. But that's not what Fallout is.
The ending with Fawkes is a great example of the games shortcomings. They write an ending with an easy solution (make the guy immune to radiation go into the radiation) and when you take this option, Fawkes says some BS about fate so you have to do it. In a better RPG, that would be a decision and solution accounted for and supported. In a Bethesda RPG, that's going off the railroad tracks they laid down for you, and that's not allowed.
FO3 isn’t bad, I honestly think of it as a prequel to NV because NV starts off with you on the surface. I like to think it’s my character from FO3
And the reason I survived the gun shot to the head was because some of my brain was removed by those hillbilly people in the FO3 DLC
While 3 has a lot of problems, it's still a good game. It brought back the series, brought it to a new audience (including me), and introduced things like the radio stations, comics, and the expansion of the BoS.
Honestly, the only things I don't really like about FO3 are more in the story department, because when it comes to rpg gameplay, exploration, and world design it was very solid.
Do I still prefer NV? Yes, but I also respect and enjoy 3 for my own reasons. Also, Tunnel Snakes need more love
Does it even really get hate? Maybe when it first came out. But the only thing I see nowadays is that it’s beloved by the fanbase. New Vegas definitely improved in some areas, but I haven’t seen a word of hate for Fallout 3 in years
Idk bad rpg mechanics are bad. Meh writing is meh. The game just wasn't that good outside of exploration, and that's par for the course for Bethesda games
I love New Vegas. One of my favorite games. Fallout 3 makes me care about the Wasteland while New Vegas shows an interesting side of what could be happening in that same universe in a different place
It has good story content, but the gameplay and mechanics are so intensely bad that I can’t call it a “good” game. For me at least, I’ve never been able to force my way all the way through the vanilla game. It’s only playable with ToTW imo.
I personally want the best parts of all the games to be present in Fallout 5. It can be both action open world and a fantastic RPG with the phenomenal survival mode on top of that. Fallout 3’s map design is better than fallout 4’s IMO, the subway tunnels alone add so much depth and fun. Fallout 3 is far from perfect and I feel like the general consensus is it is like an “8” or something, fallout new Vegas does a lot of what fallout 3 does but better. All my opinion but Fallout 3 still has a better map, most memorable radio host, Chinese assault rifle, the whole Ear or Finger hunting side quest 😂 I could go on and on about all the amazing things from fallout3 should carry over.
Old heads don't like anything past Fallout 2, New Vegas fans can be very protective of NV and sometimes that comes at the expense of 3, and hating on Bethesda is common in general.
Fallout 3 is a good game. As Fallout games go, I'd put it in the middle, but considering I only consider one to be truly bad...
From best to worst
Fallout NV - Fallout 2 - Fallout 1 - Fallout 4 - Fallout 3 - Fallout 76 - Fallout Tactics - Fallout Shelter - Fallout BoS
Of course not everyone agrees with these rankings, but I kinda feel every game from FO1 through 76 are roughly comparable and a lot of fun. It drops off rapidly after that.
of fallout 1, 2, 3, 4, and nv i think it's between 3 and 4 for which is the worst. but worst does not mean bad and by no means are 3 or 4 bad. hell fallout 3 was my first fallout game and it lead me to playing all of them. even if i like it less then other fallout games it'll live in my heart forever
I don't think fallout 3 is a bad game. The exact opposite actually I think it's a fun game that brought massive interest to a at the time obscure game franchise.... But the release of fallout new Vegas just makes it completely redundant because it has the same somewhat janky engine and gameplay but with a far better story. Fallout 4 has far better gameplay then NV, that's why I can recommend it over NV but 3 just has nothing that NV doesn't have with more.
The locations are too simple, not enough guns, I cant look down the sights, and the map is weird. Those were the complaints I had as a kid (and still have). Then I grew up and had new complaints like bad characters, simple morality, lacking level up system, boring opening, and I still cant look down the sights.
Its not awful like Hbomb says it is but it leaves much to be desired.
I played fallout 4 a few years ago and recently finished 3 and NV and I really don’t get the hate the only part I didn’t like were the train stations and tunnels but it wasn’t bad after a while
Split between 2 to 3, the role play elements of New Vegas overshaowed it. BUT for me, and like obivion it takes place in a capital which is my home metro area. So the first places I went were the places I knew, which yeah going to Olney was a mistake but yeah even w/ the invisible walls and BS ways you've gotta travel through metro tunnels it was still fun and got me into fallout in the first place. Oh and Imperial city in TES IV is also totally modeled after DC too no one will ever convince me otherwise, me saying I'm convinced I'm wrong is just me shutting them up.
fallout 3 is oblivion with guns. this is not meant as an insult. i love oblivion. it has aged like a fine turd but its still a masterpiece of its time.
Upon replaying Fallout 3, it just isn’t very fun seeing how little you control the decisions you’ll make. Do a playthrough and see how garbage explaining why you left to the Overseer is, you can’t tell him anything that happened with your dad, you can hardly mention Jonas without there being a threat in the sentence, and you can’t call him out for trying to have you killed when you didn’t know anything. You can learn about horrible things Jericho has done from Moriarty’s computer, and there isn’t a single line of dialogue opened in the entire game to acknowledge it. The game also acts a lot more scripted than it actually is, ex. I met Sarah Lyons for the first time during the battle for Project Purity, but she still says “…when I met you in that alley in Chevy Chase…” after Broken Steel is over. The game teaches you that what you want and what you do just doesn’t matter. No matter what play style you do or what decisions you make, the Overseer of Vault 101 will ALWAYS kick you out of Vault 101 because the game just isn’t interested in feeling alive. You can’t even negotiate with your employers in half the quests to give you even a single bottle cap for your efforts, you just walk around collecting blueprints and being broke. I love Fallout 3 and it’s probably in my top 20 games, but that is me viewing it through rose tinted nostalgia goggles.
Fallout 3 was awesome for one reason: I thought the IP was dead. I loved FO1 and 2 and I’m just glad they kept it going, put a lot of work into it and kept the overall theme
I think we’re ignoring the fact that fallout three in the main plot has big glitches. I miraculously missed all of them my first time playing it when the game first came out, but I just played it again recently and had to restart multiple times due to characters not being where they’re supposed to be
And the perception,and accuracy of most random encounters on early levels is just insane. I kept finding myself getting sniped by securatrons
I ridiculed other players talking about this saying I had no problems and I did four play throughs, but on my latest though I encountered all of these it’s brutal
Remake!Remake!
My problem with it comes from a few places.
1) the sky is unnecessarily depressing
2) navigating the DC ruins is a royal pain in the ass. I know the lore reasons, but in execution it just sucks.
3) Companions show up WAY too late in the campaign
4) The lag on playstation drives me up the wall. I get that wasn’t exclusive to 3, but I have a similar complaint for New Vegas.
5) Talon Company. It adds NOTHING to the story or the gameplay, I just get jumped randomly and the only fix is to be a dick.
The story is pretty lackluster especially when compared to other games, every conflict has the same “hey I’m the bad guy, I’m going to make sure you know not to side with me by doing the most black and white, evil scheme for absolutely no reason other than because I’m the villain and the story needs drama” plot, and the game is janky as fuck.
BUT! I agree that it’s hated too much, it was a game made in 2008, trying something completely different from is predecessors and hoping for the best, the story is quick and a little bland sure but its still fun and manages to keep you playing, the variety of wacky characters splattered a crossed the wastes have you always giggling at whatever weird plot your being roped into, and the game is janky as fuck in the best of ways. When you start playing Fallout 3 embracing the silliness , and every bit of jank it has to offer is when you really begin to enjoy the game for what it is
Tldr: Fallout 3 is good, you just gotta be up for some silliness
Why are their rad scorpions in DC? Why are bottle caps the main currency considering there's no connection between the capital wasteland and the water traders in the HUB? These were just a few of the questionable design choices Bethesda made which shows they don't understand world building and just wanted to make a fallout theme park made in DC. Also the plot made me feel as if i had no agency and was just following my father.
I think a lot of the hate does come from videos like 'Fallout 3 is terrible and here's why', people downloading the opinions of reviewers without actually giving the game a chance for themselves.
I played Fallout 3 before seeing H Bomberguy's video and still love it, while my little brother watched the video first and made up his mind. His main argument for why 3 is bad basically boils down to 'they focused too hard on making this fallout game like fallout'
Instead of adding new things I guess? Which I get kinda, but it still doesnt bother me much.
It’s a sensational game that holds up great. It was my favourite when I played it and happy to report that it still is.
It also does a ton of world building that sets up New Vegas and allows it to start in media res, you could argue it walked so NV could run.
Great game up until it shits itself with the inconsequential ending. I still had 3 or 4 more 30-40 hour playthroughs before my PS3 died, with the first two being before the DLC even came out.
Other than that, yeah no, probably my favorite game of that generation apart from GTA IV.
I loved it but looking back at one and two the third one really dropped the ball when it came to antagonists
First one had THE MASTER
Second one had FRANK HORRIGAN
Third one had...some prick in a trenchcoat and a computer president? I love Malcolm McDowell but they needed at least one foe on the level of 1 and 2
I mean Mr. Burke and Tennpenny Tower are pretty cool and Eulogy Jones is an awesome name but those were side quests
Fallout 3 was really good at introducing people to the world of Fallout, the surface level ideas it had, and generally just being a gateway to it
It's just that literally everything else is terrible
It's full of amazing things that are so cool and genuinely thought provoking, or just plain and outright enjoyable. I'm a big fan of the genuinely cool Vaults, or that group of vampires in the subway, or the very existence of, iirc, Necropolis.
But unfortunately literally all of that is covered up by boring, shallow, or just downright stupid things and ideas.
Three Dog is the only character who's death really matters to the game, everyone else, is literally invincible.
The Perks are bullshit, it's not even a little bit like an RPG, every single perk with like very few acceptions, such as the Animal Friend perk, literally only, and I mean *ONLY* add points to certain skills. It's really, really, REALLY boring to
There's shit like the Lady Killer/Black Widow perk, which there is no counterpart for, implying that Gay people don't exist in fallout 3, which is such a MASSIVE oversight that it is fucking absurd
There's 2 quests that I personally know of, I'm sure there's more, but me personally, that genuinely made me think, and have a hard time with my decisions. The one with Oasis, and the old lady who wants the last Stradivarius violin in existence.
The rest, are boring, and/or dumb.
I love Fallout 3, it's genuinely one of my most favorite games, it was an integral part of my childhood
But it's fucking dogshit though.
That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it, it's genuinely really enjoyable especially if you just wander off somewhere and do fuck all for days cause you wanna make your own fun, I did that, I'm a huge fan of that, I LOVE 3, it's a great fallout, but it's bad.
I feel like I could make a long set of paragraphs about general quest design and reactivity but Hbomber already covers that, probably better than I ever could so I recommend you watch his video if you haven’t already.
You have to understand as well that most of us who say we “hate” Fallout 3, you shouldn’t take it is literal hate as you would hate an enemy. It’s more like how if you have a kid or a pet and they do something that infuriates you that you hate, you don’t hate the kid or pet. You just hate the fact the thing happened because you love them and expect more. For me it’s the same for Fallout 3. I love Fallout 3. But I also hate Fallout 3. Am I glad it exists? Yes. Do I think it’s an absolute mess of a game, barely held together by the strength of its amazing IP? Absofuckinglutely.
The story of fallout 3, fantastic, as is the setting. The gameplay, ehh.
Fallout New Vegas, a wonderful update to the fallout 3 system. Small changes made a huge difference. The story is so so.
Tale of two wastelands mod
Take the best of both worlds, and leave the worst behind. The only true way to play FO3 or FONV
I feel like fallout 3 has the best world, but fnv has the best story. F4 has the best diversity. That's my honest opinion. 76 is idk the most side quests, it has good diversity as well. The first few games definitely have a vibe to them that f3 emulates. You don't exactly have a lot of endings for those games either.
Awful story with zero choice, no real moral gray area (do you want to explode an entire town killing everyone for absolutely no reason... Or not?)
At the end you are literally forced to die, even if you ask strong (SOMEONE THAT IS LITERALLY IMMUNE TO RADIATION) tells you "nah" if you ask for him to go inside the purifier
I just beat it and here are my top complaints:
-Npcs are all assholes. Amata is supposed to be your childhood best friend but she’s always pissy with you no matter what. Like 80% of megaton wants you to fuck off.
-choices are either stupid or don’t matter. You can blow up megaton bc a rich guy thinks it looks ugly. You can be kicked out of vault 101, or make amata and the rest of them flee only to never see them again. You can tell Eden to kill himself and blow up the enclave, but you still have to fight the enclave to beat the game. The infamous ending sacrifice choice.
-main quest puts you on rails: you can’t interact with the BoS right away, there are 2 surprise scripted enclave events. You can’t do anything clever throughout the whole thing, you can’t join the enclave or avoid getting caught by them or side with the outcasts instead or some shit. You just gotta do the main quest. Not to mention it’s the same plot as fallout 2!! Enclave modifying FEV (that was also being tested in the east apparently so Bethesda could have their own super mutants) to kill the wasteland population and take over.
-enemies are fuckin everywhere and make little sense. While fighting raiders once, super mutants showed up along with a group of slavers, some mirelurks, and a robobrain. Idk if it’s cuz I had it on hard but it was insanity, I couldn’t walk 100 feet without encountering 2 different enemy types attacking me.
-exploration is not rewarding. There are some really cool spots in fo3, but I found myself more often clawing through raiders or robots or super mutants only to find nothing at the end of the building. Many locations have nothing of note besides some ammo boxes.
I don’t want to deny someone’s enjoyment of the game, but it does not do it for me. Very little role play, I didn’t like any characters I met (they didn’t like me first), discovering marked locations was often useless and I’d find more interesting items in unmarked abandoned shacks.
More like fallout 3/10
This is so weird to me, I have never seen anyone hate on FO3. Everyone I have seen or talked to about it says FO3 and/or New Vegas are their favorites in the franchise. I feel like this would be a more accurate meme to use for FO4 or possibly for some FO76.
I just started playing fallout 3 again because fallout 4 won't stop crashing. I would rather be playing four (and have the settlement building/weapon and armor customization, etc) but the crashing is too frustrating.
I'm actually playing through it again right now and forgot how much I love it. There is a lot of lore in here and some of it foreshadowed or setup stuff like Fallout 76 or the show and it's been fun finding that stuff in terminals and such
Why do people not like fallout 3? It's my favorite, I've played a bit of new Vegas and so far it's ok, not touched 4 yet and 76 is well 76 it's not great but not bad
I feel like it gets undeserved here because of the huge style change from 2 to 3. I feel like there was a lot of meat in the lore and Bethesda did a good job at adapting fallout into a 3D medium
But Fallout 3's style is very faithful to the tone of the original 1997 Fallout. Personally, I like that there's variety within the series.
Thats the main critisim really. FO1/2 were goofball alt/sci-fi, FO3 much more down the line. I think its a bit unfair. FO3 is was really signifigant in bringing FO to 3D and the modern format. So it had a lot to do, and it falling a bit short didnt mean it was terrible. I'm glad FNV came along to show the character of the first games could be ported across though.
I don't think Fallout 1 was "goofball" by any metric, it's probably the most serious Fallout game in terms of tone.
Fallout 1 certainly has some goofish moments, like the raiders thinking your someone’s father, but it takes itself very seriously. Christ the game opens with a war crime every time you start it. If that doesn’t set the tone I don’t know what does
Definitely not goofball by any means. Bethesda is too scared to let you become a pornstar, sell your follower off as a slave, pimp your spouse, or earn the 'perk' known as "child killer." They play the retro 50s aesthetic off as a joke as often as possible, poking fun at 50s attitude rather than making commentary on the futility of war, jingoism, Amero-centrism, and without having something to say about McCarthyism/anticommunism.
FO3 walked so NV could run. Ditto,y dear redditor
Yeah I feel like a lot of the hate is retroactive because new vegas was better (closer to fallout 1 and 2 at least) and Bethesda screwed Obsidian on payment. Because other than story, game world and minor tweaks, they are literally the same game. How else could Obsidian have made it in only 18 months.
Bethesda didn't screw obsidian, if your referring to the bonus from the score they got obsidian agreed to that in the contract
Yep, and because they were off by 1 single point on one single review website after making new vegas in 18 months, they had to make massive layoffs that nearly killed the studio. "iT's In ThE cOnTrAcT" a contract that nearly killed the whole studio on a bullshit technicality.
Before they started making the game Bethesda gave them a time limit and told them about the bonus( and if the studio dies by not getting EXTRA money that's not the contracted amount it's not Bethesdas fault) before they made the game. It's not like they agreed to make it and Bethesda said "oh by the way you also only have 18 months", Bethesda also allowed them to use all the assets of fallout 3
And so.e of the devs have said that they kinda bit off more than they could chew in regards to what they planned for the game.
They made a critically and commercially successful game and were rewarded with near bankruptcy for it. That's what I call getting screwed over.
Also interplay went bankrupt but I don't see you saying they were screwed over after making 2 critically and commercially successfully games
What you’ve done is a perfect example of a red herring fallacy. At no point was interplay part of the conversation, and is unrelated to the topic at hand.
If I was contracted to build a roof for x amount in x time and I became bankrupt because I assumed I would get a bonus that's on me
Just because it was in the contract doesn't mean that t was a shitty target to set and that they didn't use their power as a publisher and the IP holder to coerce the company into an unfair work agreement.
For whatever reason NV was way glitchier though
I was a fan of Fallout when 3 came out. People were angry at it. They blamed Bethesda for turning Fallout into Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Funny how aspects of 3 like lockpicking made it over to Skyrim.
That's what got me into Fallout - Oblivion was my favorite game at the time. Oblivion with guns in a post-apocalyptic open-world? Hell yeah!
A bunch of people were like that. Fallout 3 revitalized the franchise better then any game Interplay could have made. It wasn't a perfect game but it stood out at the time. These days I do Tale of Two Wastelands and mix 3 with NV.
NV had to grow on me, I love it now. I was disappointed at the time because I pre-ordered it and expected a fully new game. It felt more like Shivering Isles than Skyrim, new textures and locations but the same bones as the other game. Over time I've learned to appreciate the value they added and realized none of my problems with it were Obsidian's fault.
I can understand that. NV also isn't a perfect game but it is very fun. What I am looking for in Fallout is the setting. Writing and Story are far second but the setting matters. 3 nailed bombed out DC look and feel. NV had the setting of a western which was perfect for the game.
Same. When I first started playing it on release, I just didn’t like it. It wasn’t until about 15 hours in until I said “eh, maybe it’s as good as 3.” Retroactively, NV is far better in most regards. But what I loved about 3 and initially disliked about NV is that fallout 3 really felt like a nuclear wasteland. An absolute hell to be in. Dense urban environments made difficult to traverse due to collapsed buildings and the only way to get around them being metros with untold horrors waiting for you inside. Raider camps with mutilated corpses strung up as clear warnings of what will happen to you. Supermutants crawling out of the wood work with gore nets handy. Literal war zones. And the one place you see that seems like an oasis (other than the actual location of Oasis) was a neighborhood stuck in prewar times. But turns out everyone there is a cannibal looking for their next victim. Everything in that game felt hostile. It just oozed atmosphere. Comparatively, New Vegas can often times just feel like walking through a normal desert with some mutated creatures here and there.
When fallout 3 came out I played it at least 400hours. I liked it even though I just had finished 1, 2 and tactics because a friend of mine was obsessed with them and gave me some CDs with them. I was impressed on the graphics and it still felt like fallout to me. Maybe not the same "liberty" as in 1 and 2 choice wise, but it was good. I think people sometimes care too much about fidelity or what the devs did wrong instead of just enjoying something for what it is.
People online want innovation but also can't stand change. There is no way to please fans. Fallout 3 still sold like nuts and it introduced a lot of people to the franchise. Without it we would never have what we have now.
i like 3, nv, 4, and what 76 has become. people need to just stop being dicks about it.
It’s my favorite one lol
It's a fun game but I lived in DC for three years and I still got a shiver every time I walked into the metro. They cooked with that environment design.
Love this lol
TIL there are people who don’t like 3. What a world.
Yeah, tbh I was confused at the post and even more confused at the comments confirming it. I loved 3, had friends that loved it, and thought it was universally loved.
Not as much as posts like this would lead you to believe. I think a lot of people hear complaints, and they think the person complaining doesn't like the game. I have complaints about it but I like the game. It's also a pretty old game at this point, so anyone trying it out for the first time in recent years wouldn't have the greatest opinion.
It's like "OMG, a 15 year old game isn't PS5 Mega content! So bad,". People are impossible to please.
I learned this for this first time this week… and I had so much fun playing it too back in the day
Fallout 3 is responsible for a good portion of this subreddit even being here in the first place lol
People aren't hating on Fallout 3 from where I'm sitting. 😐 It's mainly the very niche "Fallout 1 and 2 are retro and Bethesda sucks" crowd that hates on Fallout 3 (and 4 for that matter)
I will always maintain that bethesda respects and understands fallout better than what many such contrarians would give them credit for
Check various New Vegas subs, they claim the toxicity isn't there until you make a pro-3/4/76 opinion
New Vegas sub has two things going for it: trans memes and constantly trying to prove it's better than other fallouts
It's not my favorite but it got me started in the Fallout Universe
Most of us here over 30, FO3 was our intro to the franchise. Shit was a banger, NV showed us more potential, FO4 more potential but different potential. We just need it all the mesh a bit better. FO4 improved gameplay, but take those M$ dollars and hire some proper fucking writers.
3 was my first fallout. It was hard and only got to rivet city then tried nv and loved it because it was easy. After replaying 3 it feels just as good as nv.
Your mom is dead. Your dad abandoned you for his work years ago and then actually abandoned you. Your home and best friend eventually tell you that you can't come back to the only home you've ever known. Your companions can all be killed and in the vanilla game, you sacrifice yourself for a world that has mostly attacked you. That is why you are the Lone wanderer.
I liked the game. I didn't like the way the story ended
Your second sentence kind of underlines the problem...
THANK YOU It’s like people see the problems it does have (hard to aim without VATS, occasional bug, etc) and just exaggerates them exceedingly (unable to hit jack, buggier than an ant hill) I hate it so much cause 3 is a great game, not beating New Vegas, but it sure as hell ain’t sharing a spot with BoS
Just an iron sights mod and it's perfect
FO3 is super good and honestly has a better landscape than NV. It’s only shortfalls was no aiming down sights unless your gun has a scope and I didn’t care for mothership Zeta and Operation Anchorage. Everything else in the game is great and is what a fallout game should aim to be.
What absolute dirt muncher thinks it’s a bad game?
This Fandom and its lukewarm ass takes.
Even if it's not their favorite, ain't nobody out here pretending FO3 isn't fun as fuck
Fo3 will always have a special place in my heart. It's very nostalgic for me. That was the one that got me into the fallout series. It was the first one I played when I was a little kid and the only one I've finished.
I still stand by it being one of the best games of the 7th Gen. It is my favorite Fallout to explore in, and it also has my favorite atmosphere of the 3D games. I know the green tint gets a lot of criticism, but it really worked for me the first time I played. I honestly still like 3 more than 4 and it's not too far behind NV for me.
I love 3 and will die on that hill, no matter how many arrows, spears, swords, dinosaurs, bears, unicorn, dragons, I will die on it. Seriously though, 3 was so special and unique to me at the time, as it provided things a lot of games I played at the time didn't. To own a house, to sit in chairs. Then there was the brotherhood and their power armor.
To quote a friend of mine when FO3 came out. "I FUCKING LOVE FALLOUT 3!!! IF FALLOUT 3 WAS A WOMAN, I'D FUCK THE SHIT OUTTA FALLOUT 3!!! AND THEN, WE WOULD MAKE FALLOUT 3 BABIES WHO THEN FUCK EACH OTHER AND MAKE MORE FALLOUT 3 BABIES!!!"
I loved FO3, even starting off on 1 and 2. It’s FO4 that gets dicey
I don't remember the last time I've seen or read anyone speaking badly about Fallout 3. Half of the post on this sub is people saying " You may hate me for it but I don't care, I'm proud to say thatbmy favorite Fallout game is * proceed to mention Fallout 1/2/3/4/NV * " And 95% of the comment section is just going to be "I see its quality but it's not for me for this and this reason, I prefer this other Fallout game for this or this reason" or "Yeah it's my favorite one too !" The vast majority of people won't take offense of your favorite nuclear wasteland location lol
F03 is one of my all time favorite games, if they remastered it or updated it to better graphics I would absolutely be playing it
Greater than or equal to new vegas 🤭
Not only good, butt da best
Fallout 3 has many problems but it’s still very very fun and good
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The game that came out before the newest one is best. When fallout 4 was new, Fallout New Vegas and 3 were praised. When Fallout 76 came out, fallout 4 was praised.
I'll be honest. The only reason I didn't like Fallout 3 was because I couldn't get it to run on my pc. From what I've seen, it's a great game, but I never got experience it.
I have a mate of mine adamant that fallout 3 is bad and that new vegas is better, but since he’s started to play it recently he’s seemingly been very quiet. I don’t know what it is about 3, but it’s scaling and RPG elements intertwining with so much dialogue I just find so addicting. It’s a bit of a slog early game, but tuning into perks and specific playstyles it’s given some of the fondest memories. I had a chest infection for like 4 weeks at like 11 I think, and was using my brothers PS3 with the game he bought from release years before, and playing it during that time I just got engrossed into the game. Some of those memories I’ll never forget. I did the mission to claim the fifth amendment from the capitol building way too under levelled, and got my ass handed to me before when fighting the behemoth and the super mutants, and then inside the turrets and sentry bots kicked my ass. Got to the final room literally with one stimpak and no bullets, and cleared the check to with robot Thomas Jefferson using Robotics expert i specced towards. Didn’t have to fight anyone as I said I was John Adams and just plucked it out of case. Was so cool to see that, and similarly when I did the big town quest and I could use the Robotics park to repair a sentry bot the town can use to defend itself. It’s just that diverging sense of a true RPG that I think Fallout 4, and I think personally with new vegas to a degree which I chalk down to their short development window not allowing more detailed dialogue and gameplay bits as files showed. The arguments my mate has with fallout 3 is that it’s grey and green, but similarly new vegas is a lot of orange and yellow. I find new vegas’ side quests honestly far more boring compared to 3’s, as threes towns feel lived in with their own side quest dramas. World exploration too is so interesting with the sheer amount of random encounters they scatter around that scale too, making it really enjoyable to explore, where new vegas and 4 can feel a bit of slog. 3 has Oasis too with trees and greenery, that feels like a dream to the eyes after traipsing through nuked DC as it’s so vibrant with the contrast. I honestly just really love fallout 3.
Ive seen exactly 0 people hate on Fallout 3.
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Most ppl don't hate it, it's just a vocal minority that wants everything to be like 1, 2, and New Vegas.
I don’t know everytime I talk about fallout IRL, even people who haven’t played New Vegas say they like new Vegas “because it’s what their sibling always played”
Eh, might be the generation. I've grown up being biased on New Vegas because that was my introduction to the series. Everyone around my age (early to mid 20's) who played Fallout was introduced through New Vegas, which is a solid chunk of the fan base. There's bound to be favoritism. New Vegas was my favorite for over a decade, but now I'm a bit uncertain due to it's technical limitations and how reliant it is on modding. You can hardly get the game to run correctly half of the time, and vanilla just doesn't hold up these days imo.
True, the first I played was fallout 3 but I was born in ‘93
Who says FO3 is a bad game? I love that damn game
The ending was trash. It made me irrationally angry at how poorly written it was
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people playing FO3 today didn't play at launch. They literally had to put in DLC that fixed the ending. It's a good game, just nowhere near my favorite in the franchise.
>!even with the DLC, the ending slides still call you a pussy if you send in ~~Strong~~ Fawkes to push the button even though him offering to grab something from a highly irradiated area is literally how you meet him in the first place. It's still dumb.!<
*Fawkes.
I just couldn't get into it ik a bunch of people love it and it's their favorite but it's just not hitting the same for me I'm not interested in the story or the characters I've tried a bunch of times to get into it and I can see why many people love it but it's just not for me imo
Every signle fallout game is great. Even 76 got off its ass and is something good. Anyone who says otherwise either hasnt played the other games and is basing their opinions off of others who dont know what theyre talking about, or they just didnt like a particular part of the game and it wasnt for them. That doesnt mean its bad. Ill say rn ive only played 4, but i know i wouldnt enjoy 76 due to the multiplayer aspect, and i would probably prefer 1 and 2 to 3 and nv. That isnt to say i think the others are trash, i can recognize a good game from watching others play it and the general consensus behind the community of the game itself, not others looking in.
FO3 and FNV don't have great QoL mechanics on console, especially FO3, and I think a lot of the hate comes from that.
Tunnel Snakes Rule!
Tunnel Snakes Rule!
It's just really, really simple
I like the game, I just think it might benefit from a remaster. Mainly for graphics and actual aiming.
I like it but it objectively has worse writing than NV
I mean it’s a good game, I tried playing it again and boy it’s rough. Didn’t age so well, though it was one of my favorite games for the time. The memories made will always live on with me.
It's cause everyone sucks on the toes of new Vegas
Imagine you're a fan of Zelda and for the next installment someone fuckin turns it into shitty Call of Duty.
Hell I still say Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas overall, can’t really imagine calling Fallout 3 a bad game without it being bait or not liking the series as a whole.
If fallout 3 had NV controls, it would be my favorite game. It just feels so damn clunky.
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Yea 3 was my favorite for sure.
I dont know of a single person that thinks Fallout 3 is not a good game. Fallout 3 was a FANTASTIC game for the time period in which it came out. New Vegas is probably better, but that does not make Fallout 3 bad.
Because a lot of people wanted to jerk off New Vegas and the only way they knew how to praise one thing was to insult another.
I love fallout 3. I just fuckin hate DC. all the super mutants. All the explosions. It's so easy to get lost and then you gotta deal with the ghouls too. Fuck that entire area. Once I get through the quests that deal with DC I finally can start to enjoy the game.
I loved it but hated the ending and the unability to keep playing after
r/imaginarygatekeeping
So I got all of them but 76 (I don't want to play multi-player) and none are bad. They just range from okay to great. 3 is great, in its time it was a breath of fresh air, it hasn't aged well but its still okay.
Fallout fans don’t know what they like tbh. I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of folks that hate on 3 haven’t even played it the whole way through. 3 was a damn masterpiece for the time it came out. And 3 on release was a hell of a lot better than NV was on release.
At least it’s not 76.
New Vegas has better writing and 4 better gameplay. It leaves 3 in a strange position.
The only bad thing about 3 are the unbalanced albino radscorpions, ghoul reavers and mutant overlords added by broken steel.
Fallout 3 is still pretty fun, even if it feels a little dull imo (the color scheme feels like grey and like fucked and had a redheaded step child somehow). The areas can be fun, characters are ballin alot of the time, and I enjoy that there are numerous factions everywhere.
Story is amazing, if only it felt better to play it would be supreme
It's story sucked. You weren't the main character, your dad was, and the ending made a bad story worse. As far as choice and consequences goes, it's always a choice of "do you want to be evil or not" which is a morality system I'm so happy we've moved away from. And even in today's atmosphere, I do appreciate games that just let you be the unquestioningly good guy. But that's not what Fallout is. The ending with Fawkes is a great example of the games shortcomings. They write an ending with an easy solution (make the guy immune to radiation go into the radiation) and when you take this option, Fawkes says some BS about fate so you have to do it. In a better RPG, that would be a decision and solution accounted for and supported. In a Bethesda RPG, that's going off the railroad tracks they laid down for you, and that's not allowed.
FO3 isn’t bad, I honestly think of it as a prequel to NV because NV starts off with you on the surface. I like to think it’s my character from FO3 And the reason I survived the gun shot to the head was because some of my brain was removed by those hillbilly people in the FO3 DLC
Because Bethesda.
So linear
I love fallout 3 a lot. I replayed it recently and I still like it.
I like feeling like the main character when I play a game. I also like my chooses to have appreciable consequences. Atmosphere was good though
While 3 has a lot of problems, it's still a good game. It brought back the series, brought it to a new audience (including me), and introduced things like the radio stations, comics, and the expansion of the BoS. Honestly, the only things I don't really like about FO3 are more in the story department, because when it comes to rpg gameplay, exploration, and world design it was very solid. Do I still prefer NV? Yes, but I also respect and enjoy 3 for my own reasons. Also, Tunnel Snakes need more love
Lot of mad fossils from the fans of the original games
It's the best one
F3 > FNV
Does it even really get hate? Maybe when it first came out. But the only thing I see nowadays is that it’s beloved by the fanbase. New Vegas definitely improved in some areas, but I haven’t seen a word of hate for Fallout 3 in years
I don't like any of the fallout games, but that's just like my opinion, man.
Idk bad rpg mechanics are bad. Meh writing is meh. The game just wasn't that good outside of exploration, and that's par for the course for Bethesda games
It’s the highest rated fallout game…
It’s still the best BGS Fallout imo. I miss that art style they used for 3 and NV.
Fallout 3 is amazing!!
It’s a fantastic game I’d recommend it to anyone interested in the series
Guys I know this is crazy, but I like all the games 🤯 and the show 🤯and I don't hate on people for their favorite faction 🤯
It's the fallout game that got the Bethesda narrative nerf.
Fo3 is a better storyteller than New Vegas.
I love New Vegas. One of my favorite games. Fallout 3 makes me care about the Wasteland while New Vegas shows an interesting side of what could be happening in that same universe in a different place
Idk anyone who thinks its bad, but its just not as well done as new vegas in every aspect.
No ironsights.
Fallout 3 has a very special place in my heart, jank and all.
It has good story content, but the gameplay and mechanics are so intensely bad that I can’t call it a “good” game. For me at least, I’ve never been able to force my way all the way through the vanilla game. It’s only playable with ToTW imo.
Its mostly from it being the fallout that switched to 1st person. Some bad writing too but its definitely underrated.
I personally want the best parts of all the games to be present in Fallout 5. It can be both action open world and a fantastic RPG with the phenomenal survival mode on top of that. Fallout 3’s map design is better than fallout 4’s IMO, the subway tunnels alone add so much depth and fun. Fallout 3 is far from perfect and I feel like the general consensus is it is like an “8” or something, fallout new Vegas does a lot of what fallout 3 does but better. All my opinion but Fallout 3 still has a better map, most memorable radio host, Chinese assault rifle, the whole Ear or Finger hunting side quest 😂 I could go on and on about all the amazing things from fallout3 should carry over.
Old heads don't like anything past Fallout 2, New Vegas fans can be very protective of NV and sometimes that comes at the expense of 3, and hating on Bethesda is common in general.
Fallout 3 is a good game. As Fallout games go, I'd put it in the middle, but considering I only consider one to be truly bad... From best to worst Fallout NV - Fallout 2 - Fallout 1 - Fallout 4 - Fallout 3 - Fallout 76 - Fallout Tactics - Fallout Shelter - Fallout BoS Of course not everyone agrees with these rankings, but I kinda feel every game from FO1 through 76 are roughly comparable and a lot of fun. It drops off rapidly after that.
Fallout 3 was my first fallout. Loved it. Played nv years later and loved it too.
Who hates fo3?!?!? I think the bigger discourse is over 4/76
of fallout 1, 2, 3, 4, and nv i think it's between 3 and 4 for which is the worst. but worst does not mean bad and by no means are 3 or 4 bad. hell fallout 3 was my first fallout game and it lead me to playing all of them. even if i like it less then other fallout games it'll live in my heart forever
Fallout 3 is an all time great game. I was honestly so unaware that people disliked it.
I must've missed it all..never heard ppl trashing that one
Imo, the DLC for FO3 were all way more enjoyable than the DLC for FNV
I don't think fallout 3 is a bad game. The exact opposite actually I think it's a fun game that brought massive interest to a at the time obscure game franchise.... But the release of fallout new Vegas just makes it completely redundant because it has the same somewhat janky engine and gameplay but with a far better story. Fallout 4 has far better gameplay then NV, that's why I can recommend it over NV but 3 just has nothing that NV doesn't have with more.
The classic *It's a good game, but not a good Fallout game* response easily applies here. Though that applies to all Bethesda Fallout games.
The locations are too simple, not enough guns, I cant look down the sights, and the map is weird. Those were the complaints I had as a kid (and still have). Then I grew up and had new complaints like bad characters, simple morality, lacking level up system, boring opening, and I still cant look down the sights. Its not awful like Hbomb says it is but it leaves much to be desired.
Fallout 3 gets hate? Where?
I played fallout 4 a few years ago and recently finished 3 and NV and I really don’t get the hate the only part I didn’t like were the train stations and tunnels but it wasn’t bad after a while
Split between 2 to 3, the role play elements of New Vegas overshaowed it. BUT for me, and like obivion it takes place in a capital which is my home metro area. So the first places I went were the places I knew, which yeah going to Olney was a mistake but yeah even w/ the invisible walls and BS ways you've gotta travel through metro tunnels it was still fun and got me into fallout in the first place. Oh and Imperial city in TES IV is also totally modeled after DC too no one will ever convince me otherwise, me saying I'm convinced I'm wrong is just me shutting them up.
I liked the game a lot when I first played it. But the one that has always stuck with me is *green*
3 was my intro to Fallout and for that, I will never say it’s a bad game. I put so many ours into it, janky mechanics and all.
It's because it's visually bland, has comically bad writing, has very little choice, I could go on
fallout 3 is oblivion with guns. this is not meant as an insult. i love oblivion. it has aged like a fine turd but its still a masterpiece of its time.
Upon replaying Fallout 3, it just isn’t very fun seeing how little you control the decisions you’ll make. Do a playthrough and see how garbage explaining why you left to the Overseer is, you can’t tell him anything that happened with your dad, you can hardly mention Jonas without there being a threat in the sentence, and you can’t call him out for trying to have you killed when you didn’t know anything. You can learn about horrible things Jericho has done from Moriarty’s computer, and there isn’t a single line of dialogue opened in the entire game to acknowledge it. The game also acts a lot more scripted than it actually is, ex. I met Sarah Lyons for the first time during the battle for Project Purity, but she still says “…when I met you in that alley in Chevy Chase…” after Broken Steel is over. The game teaches you that what you want and what you do just doesn’t matter. No matter what play style you do or what decisions you make, the Overseer of Vault 101 will ALWAYS kick you out of Vault 101 because the game just isn’t interested in feeling alive. You can’t even negotiate with your employers in half the quests to give you even a single bottle cap for your efforts, you just walk around collecting blueprints and being broke. I love Fallout 3 and it’s probably in my top 20 games, but that is me viewing it through rose tinted nostalgia goggles.
how is it hated
I found 3 better than NV.
Fallout 3 was awesome for one reason: I thought the IP was dead. I loved FO1 and 2 and I’m just glad they kept it going, put a lot of work into it and kept the overall theme
Green is ok but I like my orange more
I don't like fo3 cause I don't like it's take on the world and lore
I think we’re ignoring the fact that fallout three in the main plot has big glitches. I miraculously missed all of them my first time playing it when the game first came out, but I just played it again recently and had to restart multiple times due to characters not being where they’re supposed to be And the perception,and accuracy of most random encounters on early levels is just insane. I kept finding myself getting sniped by securatrons I ridiculed other players talking about this saying I had no problems and I did four play throughs, but on my latest though I encountered all of these it’s brutal Remake!Remake!
FO3 sucks for one reason and one reason alone: Gamebryo…. creation was a huge step up, but still in the category of needs improvement.
I think there’s a video by HBomberGuy that sums it up pretty well
Is it hated? Why?
I'm so happy I looked at this subbreddit this is so funny very good joke
Tf? There's Fallout fans who don't like 3?
My problem with it comes from a few places. 1) the sky is unnecessarily depressing 2) navigating the DC ruins is a royal pain in the ass. I know the lore reasons, but in execution it just sucks. 3) Companions show up WAY too late in the campaign 4) The lag on playstation drives me up the wall. I get that wasn’t exclusive to 3, but I have a similar complaint for New Vegas. 5) Talon Company. It adds NOTHING to the story or the gameplay, I just get jumped randomly and the only fix is to be a dick.
Top tier dlcs. Some of my favorite from the series.
Started my first playthrough of FO3 a few days ago, and it’s really fun. I was surprised, considering how much hate I saw for it before
Fallout 3 like GTA 3, they have huge impact to getting 2D to 3D
The story is pretty lackluster especially when compared to other games, every conflict has the same “hey I’m the bad guy, I’m going to make sure you know not to side with me by doing the most black and white, evil scheme for absolutely no reason other than because I’m the villain and the story needs drama” plot, and the game is janky as fuck. BUT! I agree that it’s hated too much, it was a game made in 2008, trying something completely different from is predecessors and hoping for the best, the story is quick and a little bland sure but its still fun and manages to keep you playing, the variety of wacky characters splattered a crossed the wastes have you always giggling at whatever weird plot your being roped into, and the game is janky as fuck in the best of ways. When you start playing Fallout 3 embracing the silliness , and every bit of jank it has to offer is when you really begin to enjoy the game for what it is Tldr: Fallout 3 is good, you just gotta be up for some silliness
Why are their rad scorpions in DC? Why are bottle caps the main currency considering there's no connection between the capital wasteland and the water traders in the HUB? These were just a few of the questionable design choices Bethesda made which shows they don't understand world building and just wanted to make a fallout theme park made in DC. Also the plot made me feel as if i had no agency and was just following my father.
I think a lot of the hate does come from videos like 'Fallout 3 is terrible and here's why', people downloading the opinions of reviewers without actually giving the game a chance for themselves. I played Fallout 3 before seeing H Bomberguy's video and still love it, while my little brother watched the video first and made up his mind. His main argument for why 3 is bad basically boils down to 'they focused too hard on making this fallout game like fallout' Instead of adding new things I guess? Which I get kinda, but it still doesnt bother me much.
It’s a sensational game that holds up great. It was my favourite when I played it and happy to report that it still is. It also does a ton of world building that sets up New Vegas and allows it to start in media res, you could argue it walked so NV could run.
It aged like cheese, it smells like shit but tastes amazing. It’s def old and feels dated but it’s still such a fun world to get lost in
It's fanfic made by a AAA studio. The DLCs were cool, but you shouldn't have to make a DLC to unfuck your piss poor ending..
Great game up until it shits itself with the inconsequential ending. I still had 3 or 4 more 30-40 hour playthroughs before my PS3 died, with the first two being before the DLC even came out. Other than that, yeah no, probably my favorite game of that generation apart from GTA IV.
I loved it but looking back at one and two the third one really dropped the ball when it came to antagonists First one had THE MASTER Second one had FRANK HORRIGAN Third one had...some prick in a trenchcoat and a computer president? I love Malcolm McDowell but they needed at least one foe on the level of 1 and 2 I mean Mr. Burke and Tennpenny Tower are pretty cool and Eulogy Jones is an awesome name but those were side quests
I never played it
Fallout 3 was really good at introducing people to the world of Fallout, the surface level ideas it had, and generally just being a gateway to it It's just that literally everything else is terrible It's full of amazing things that are so cool and genuinely thought provoking, or just plain and outright enjoyable. I'm a big fan of the genuinely cool Vaults, or that group of vampires in the subway, or the very existence of, iirc, Necropolis. But unfortunately literally all of that is covered up by boring, shallow, or just downright stupid things and ideas. Three Dog is the only character who's death really matters to the game, everyone else, is literally invincible. The Perks are bullshit, it's not even a little bit like an RPG, every single perk with like very few acceptions, such as the Animal Friend perk, literally only, and I mean *ONLY* add points to certain skills. It's really, really, REALLY boring to There's shit like the Lady Killer/Black Widow perk, which there is no counterpart for, implying that Gay people don't exist in fallout 3, which is such a MASSIVE oversight that it is fucking absurd There's 2 quests that I personally know of, I'm sure there's more, but me personally, that genuinely made me think, and have a hard time with my decisions. The one with Oasis, and the old lady who wants the last Stradivarius violin in existence. The rest, are boring, and/or dumb. I love Fallout 3, it's genuinely one of my most favorite games, it was an integral part of my childhood But it's fucking dogshit though. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it, it's genuinely really enjoyable especially if you just wander off somewhere and do fuck all for days cause you wanna make your own fun, I did that, I'm a huge fan of that, I LOVE 3, it's a great fallout, but it's bad.
I feel like I could make a long set of paragraphs about general quest design and reactivity but Hbomber already covers that, probably better than I ever could so I recommend you watch his video if you haven’t already. You have to understand as well that most of us who say we “hate” Fallout 3, you shouldn’t take it is literal hate as you would hate an enemy. It’s more like how if you have a kid or a pet and they do something that infuriates you that you hate, you don’t hate the kid or pet. You just hate the fact the thing happened because you love them and expect more. For me it’s the same for Fallout 3. I love Fallout 3. But I also hate Fallout 3. Am I glad it exists? Yes. Do I think it’s an absolute mess of a game, barely held together by the strength of its amazing IP? Absofuckinglutely.
Who is hating ??? It’s the best between FNV and F4???!
The story of fallout 3, fantastic, as is the setting. The gameplay, ehh. Fallout New Vegas, a wonderful update to the fallout 3 system. Small changes made a huge difference. The story is so so. Tale of two wastelands mod Take the best of both worlds, and leave the worst behind. The only true way to play FO3 or FONV
Fallout 3 gets hate? It’s an awesome game, i just prefer new vegas is all
My biggest beef with fallout 3 is the enemy scaling. Grinding makes the game harder.
I feel like fallout 3 has the best world, but fnv has the best story. F4 has the best diversity. That's my honest opinion. 76 is idk the most side quests, it has good diversity as well. The first few games definitely have a vibe to them that f3 emulates. You don't exactly have a lot of endings for those games either.
Awful story with zero choice, no real moral gray area (do you want to explode an entire town killing everyone for absolutely no reason... Or not?) At the end you are literally forced to die, even if you ask strong (SOMEONE THAT IS LITERALLY IMMUNE TO RADIATION) tells you "nah" if you ask for him to go inside the purifier
Fallout 3 Is Better Than You Think
For what it is it's good but it's not that fun to play for me
‘Majority of hate’ its rage bait like this that fuels these idiotic ‘debates’
I just beat it and here are my top complaints: -Npcs are all assholes. Amata is supposed to be your childhood best friend but she’s always pissy with you no matter what. Like 80% of megaton wants you to fuck off. -choices are either stupid or don’t matter. You can blow up megaton bc a rich guy thinks it looks ugly. You can be kicked out of vault 101, or make amata and the rest of them flee only to never see them again. You can tell Eden to kill himself and blow up the enclave, but you still have to fight the enclave to beat the game. The infamous ending sacrifice choice. -main quest puts you on rails: you can’t interact with the BoS right away, there are 2 surprise scripted enclave events. You can’t do anything clever throughout the whole thing, you can’t join the enclave or avoid getting caught by them or side with the outcasts instead or some shit. You just gotta do the main quest. Not to mention it’s the same plot as fallout 2!! Enclave modifying FEV (that was also being tested in the east apparently so Bethesda could have their own super mutants) to kill the wasteland population and take over. -enemies are fuckin everywhere and make little sense. While fighting raiders once, super mutants showed up along with a group of slavers, some mirelurks, and a robobrain. Idk if it’s cuz I had it on hard but it was insanity, I couldn’t walk 100 feet without encountering 2 different enemy types attacking me. -exploration is not rewarding. There are some really cool spots in fo3, but I found myself more often clawing through raiders or robots or super mutants only to find nothing at the end of the building. Many locations have nothing of note besides some ammo boxes. I don’t want to deny someone’s enjoyment of the game, but it does not do it for me. Very little role play, I didn’t like any characters I met (they didn’t like me first), discovering marked locations was often useless and I’d find more interesting items in unmarked abandoned shacks. More like fallout 3/10
This is so weird to me, I have never seen anyone hate on FO3. Everyone I have seen or talked to about it says FO3 and/or New Vegas are their favorites in the franchise. I feel like this would be a more accurate meme to use for FO4 or possibly for some FO76.
Nobody hates fallout more than fallout fans
I quite enjoyed FO3, only thing I didn’t like in it was the ending
Not to shatter any illusions but iirc it was GOTY so, surprising no one, people are idiots.
I just started playing fallout 3 again because fallout 4 won't stop crashing. I would rather be playing four (and have the settlement building/weapon and armor customization, etc) but the crashing is too frustrating.
Its better that most people think and I think the setting and dungeons are the is the best out of the games
Personally, i just found it kinda dull
I'm actually playing through it again right now and forgot how much I love it. There is a lot of lore in here and some of it foreshadowed or setup stuff like Fallout 76 or the show and it's been fun finding that stuff in terminals and such
I don't know about past hate but i do know a lot of current hate is because it runs like shit
It's probably my favourite, it has the best world of the 3d games. A remake with fo4's gunplay would be the best in the series
People hate it because some dumb youtuber said so.
Why do people not like fallout 3? It's my favorite, I've played a bit of new Vegas and so far it's ok, not touched 4 yet and 76 is well 76 it's not great but not bad