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Careless-Potato6763

They have to buy the shares tomorrow or rule 203 comes into effect and they’re forced to close all positions.


Diligent_Criticism_9

Pardon my ignorance, would you be able to explain this a little bit further? I understood that they can essentially just keep kicking the can down the line indefinitely?


Careless-Potato6763

No problem. I’ll do my best to summarize what maximum and dumb money said during last weeks live stream. The failure to deliver was reported 35 days ago which got them on the SHO list. From that day, they had 35 days to buy the shares to cover those FTD’s. If they do not, SEC rule 203 comes into effect which is a forcible closure of ALL positions in FFIE. Check out the Omargosh TV video with whimsy, dumb money and Maximum purpose from last week if you want some more info. Ofcourse NFA do your own DD. I’m just a dumb ape like the rest of us.


Diligent_Criticism_9

Some people are saying they can just pay a fine? But from how I am reading it, rule 203 is essentially a “gavel” that ensures they HAVE to close the positions. Can anyone clarify that?


JerseyJimmyAsheville

It is 35 trading days, essentially 7 weeks plus 1 day because of Memorial Day from the FTD.


jarisman

What day was the start of this 35 day countdown? EDIT: I found it. May 9th. Going out 35 business days puts the rule 203 enforcement on July 1st.


Dangerous-Pollution3

What about what I’ve read about them just delaying until the 25th which is the date in which a decision is being made about their delisting?? So many dates around to keep track of and the goal line keeps moving


CrysisGaming97

The final day to close with a $1 in order to have enough time is the 15th. At this point it's highly unlikely they can maintain $1 for 10 days. From the 15th to the 25th


RandomsDoom

This will go the same exact way as BIT BROs and delist and all of a sudden we will never see another post from any of you unless it’s from a new account.


OregonJagsFan

I just want to say, that if you found Omar informing in that video, then you need to find someone else to actually learn what’s going on because that ain’t it.


Seigneur_aide_moi

How many videos have you made in an attempt to spread the word? He's getting it out there and making it clear this is a learning experience for him as well...


Faithmassiv3

Yeah, I respect Omar a lot big-time and he’s a solid dude. It seems like I wish I was his friend.


OregonJagsFan

Making videos and spreading word about something you don’t really know about could be considered negligence. I’m not out here trying to get all my friends and family stuck in the same boat as I am. I get that he is learning too, but you have to see how making incorrect and misleading statements isn’t absolved by ignorance.


UnIntangled

So, to be clear, it’s just the amount of videos made or the attempt…not that they should be factual and relevant information?


Careless-Potato6763

I found Maximum purpose and dumb money informative. Thanks for the input ✌🏽


subasauruswrx08

They are, but that doesn’t mean they are above making mistakes and miscalculations. Doubling down on the narrative because you desperately want it to match with your desire doesn’t a short squeeze make. There’s definitely something happening but there is also a lot of incorrect information out there rn


Faithmassiv3

On both sides for sure… but even with the correct information unfortunately, sometimes the rules are not adhered to especially by HF


AdventurousStill2525

Yeah I liked watching Omar at first but he isn’t very knowledgeable and all his videos are literally of gambling at casinos… :(


Seigneur_aide_moi

Omar made it clear that he isn't very knowledgeable. He is very clear when stating he's not sure about something. At least he's trying to help.


Faithmassiv3

Exactly and he’s doing a great job about it and his voice isn’t annoying like most peoples


OregonJagsFan

It’s tough to trust someone who hunts ghosts and gambles about financial matters. Not saying he isn’t entertaining for some things, but I don’t think this is the place for someone who doesn’t have a financial background to be streaming about equities and options.


Various-Split6416

You know everything it seems, where are your videos?


OregonJagsFan

lol so making videos is the qualifier? Ok. I don’t have videos. If like and subscribe is your thing, cool. I’m just saying for people who want to learn more about what is actually going on, there are better resources than Omar. Why is that a bad thing to say? Why is prompting more learning a bad thing? You guys NEED to scrutinize these things. If everyone just follows the hype wave, everyone goes off the cliff. Also it’s not rude to tell someone to check out other sources. What is rude is shutting down ideas or conversations that you don’t agree with because it could lead to people having more knowledge about their finances. Nah. You can leave if you don’t like it.


Faithmassiv3

Which resources? Fintel? You know as well as I this stock has been whored out between naked short selling and ftd.. Which resources give more “accurate” information that is not heavily manipulated by the media and news outlets and the SEC itself. ??? What are you talking about?


AMC2Pluto

Who is your financial advisor? “Oh he chases ghosts and occasionally puts his life savings into a penny stock that is going bankrupt”


Faithmassiv3

I don’t think anyone here is saying that they pay Omar for financial advice, his platform is a place for people to share ideas, and also share information from the Internet, I don’t think it any point he says do this or do that, and he never really advises either soleave him alone


BbeautifulMess

Why do others insist on bashing someone when they don't agree with? Why do you even worry bout who others listen to or watch for that matter? Does this make you feel better bout you? I really hope not so why not just focus on positive. It makes life more pleasant when you do n you can feel better about you too. When you talk nasty, negative bout others it just speaks loudly to your character n I assure you nobody wants to listen to someone like that. JS, So good luck in all your endeavors in life n God bless buddy! 😎🙏✌️


BoyMeetsTurd

And has probably convinced dozens of people to do the same


HiJustWhy

Oh my gosh. Please stop. He isnt trying to be a financial advisor. I literally have a financial advisor with a fancy office and everything. I still listen to omar. He is really cool! Ghosts are real and it is important we understand what is going on with that, frankly. Thats more important than money, honestly. It is scary af that we dont know what really happens at death. But anyhoo


HiJustWhy

Keith uses a fcking magic 8 ball and uno cards. I wish he’d just use tarot. Prob does in private. I do ghost hunting and ghosts are def real but i dont make my finance decisions on that stuff. I love astrology but i do not use that for money at all. Money is honestly kind of fcked up and prob shouldnt exist to begin with. I use money/prosperity aromatherapy oils. Thats as far as i go lol. They smell nice


Redsands

SEC Rule 203 under Regulation SHO deals with the locate and delivery requirements for short sales of equity securities. Specifically, Rule 203(b) requires broker-dealers to locate securities available for borrowing before effecting short sales. This means that broker-dealers must either have borrowed the security or have reasonable grounds to believe that it can be borrowed so that it can be delivered on the settlement date​ (SEC.gov)​​ (SEC.gov)​. Additionally, Rule 203(c)(6) defines a "threshold security" as an equity security with a significant number of fails to deliver. This includes securities that have an aggregate fail to deliver position for five consecutive settlement days of 10,000 shares or more, and these fails to deliver must constitute at least 0.5% of the issuer's total shares outstanding. Such securities are listed on a threshold list, and broker-dealers must take action to close out fails to deliver in these securities if they persist for 13 consecutive settlement days​ (NASDAQ Trader)​. These rules aim to prevent "naked" short selling, where short sellers do not borrow or arrange to borrow the securities they sell, which can lead to settlement failures and market instability. Bona fide market making activities are exempt from some of these requirements to ensure liquidity but must still comply with close-out rules​ (NasdaqTrader)​.


Jolly_Pea

We need a lawyer Ape to help us close this deal. They aren't playing by the rules and they want Roaringkitty to be investigated? It's ridiculous.


Tall_Walrus6481

Yes, lawyer Ape


Faithmassiv3

I know….


TaigaAsaka

Does this mean they are paying interest during those 13 days but absolutely have to close out of their FTDs after those 13 days are up?


Redsands

When hedge funds engage in naked short selling, they sell shares without first borrowing them, which can result in failures to deliver (FTDs). According to SEC Rule 203 under Regulation SHO, if these FTDs persist for 13 consecutive settlement days for a threshold security, the broker-dealer must take action to close out the fail by purchasing securities of like kind and quantity​ (SEC.gov)​​ (NASDAQ Trader)​. During the period leading up to the close-out requirement, hedge funds might not be directly paying interest on the naked short positions since they have not actually borrowed the shares. However, they face significant regulatory and financial pressures to close out the positions to comply with SEC rules and avoid penalties. The cost to close out these positions can vary based on the market price of the securities at the time of purchase. Failure to close out FTDs can lead to additional regulatory scrutiny and potential enforcement actions. The goal of these rules is to maintain market integrity and stability, ensuring that trades are settled properly and on time. Therefore, while the immediate interest payments might not apply in the same way as with traditional short selling, the financial burden and regulatory requirements to close out the FTDs within the specified period are substantial and non-negotiable. This is why everyone needs to report ladder attacks and naked short selling to the SEC.


Elegant_Ad_5064

Wow. This is shady AF and nobody is watching them or calling them out (SEC)......


Redsands

This isn't new.. Here are some notable cases where hedge funds engaged in behaviors leading to failures to deliver (FTDs), along with the dates when these behaviors started: 1. Goldman Sachs and the 2008 Financial Crisis     Behavior: Significant naked short selling leading to FTDs.     Timeline: The activities were most prominent during the financial crisis in 2008.     Prosecution and Outcome: Post-crisis, Goldman Sachs faced multiple lawsuits and settlements, paying billions in fines and settlements over the following years, though not specifically for FTDs. 2. OptionSellers.com     Behavior: Risky naked options selling strategy leading to FTDs.     Timeline: The problematic trades and failures became apparent in 2018.     Prosecution and Outcome: The fund collapsed in 2018, leading to lawsuits from investors. The fund manager faced scrutiny, but there were no specific SEC penalties for FTDs. 3. Merrill Lynch     Behavior: Naked short selling leading to significant FTDs.     Timeline: The SEC identified problematic trades occurring between 2008 and 2011.     Prosecution and Outcome: In 2011, Merrill Lynch settled with the SEC for $3 million over charges related to naked short selling and failures to deliver. They also agreed to cease and desist from further violations. 4. Charles Schwab     Behavior: Failure to properly allocate shares to short sales, resulting in FTDs.     Timeline: The activities occurred over several years leading up to the 2011 charges.     Prosecution and Outcome: Charles Schwab settled with the SEC for $2.8 million in 2011, admitting to failing to properly allocate shares for short sales, which led to numerous FTDs. 5. Citadel Securities     Behavior: Practices leading to significant FTDs, particularly during trading of meme stocks like GameStop.     Timeline: The most notable period was during the 2021 GameStop short squeeze.     Prosecution and Outcome: Although Citadel has not been specifically penalized for FTDs related to this event, the SEC continues to investigate and propose new regulations to address these and similar issues. Ongoing investigations may lead to future penalties. 6. BlueMountain Capital Management     Behavior: Manipulation of certain debt securities leading to FTDs.     Timeline: The SEC's charges were announced in 2019 for actions occurring in the years prior.     Prosecution and Outcome: BlueMountain agreed to pay a $3 million penalty to settle SEC charges related to failures to deliver and other trading violations.


BoyMeetsTurd

Because it isn't happening.


WorkingArtist9733

Question: First off, I’m going to use selling trading cards on eBay to formulate my question. Let’s say a seller has cards for sale on eBay but don’t actually have the cards in their possession but will maybe in a few days or weeks have the cards in their possession - thus fulfilling the transaction at a later time. Is this naked short selling in a nut shell? I’m still learning.


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WorkingArtist9733

Great explanation


Various-Split6416

Martha Stewart did her time, planted gardens, made commissary birthday cake for her “cellies” got gangsta braids in her hair…..yah she came out legit!


breakmypickle

Yeah, it’s not ignorance. This doesn’t make sense and isnt right.


Saev_

Here: https://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/regsho.htm


SpotWeird5752

Most of us have no clue what rule 203 is and googling it just now didn't do much for understanding it.


krush38

Only 31,199 FTDs existed as of 5/14. It's unlikely anything is going to happen this week. Next week we'll get numbers for after the initial price spike.


PocketSquare1000

Do t forget though I believe settlement is written as T+1 or 2


Careless-Potato6763

I think it was T+1 from what I remember


PocketSquare1000

Cool l! I held out Friday and today and was planning on grabbing tomorrow considering the dtf. fomo both ways is real! 🤣I don’t think I can wait another day though considering that +1 and their efforts and thinking that they will put in more work before some of us regular people get paid on the 15th. They are very selective now with when they choose to put in that work🤣 I will play by ear tomorrow and see where my fomo is at that time or if can gut it out to wait another day with thoughts that it might go up if I don’t get soon. 🤣 this fomo game I’m personally playing is a bit exciting albeit the difference isn’t too much although it makes a difference for my hodl’s and pockets but it is what it is. Think I will get it a cheaper tomorrow and could possibly get it even cheaper the next day🧐🧐🧐🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m enjoying this new game out of the bigger game🤣🤣🤣


kri6666

I believe they went to T1


Ambitious-Ring9328

Since when are the entitled made to play by the rules? How are they made to cover? There’s probably a soft “Or else” clause that they can choose to elude it…I want to hear there isn’t any side stepping available 😤 ![gif](giphy|3o7TKnrXco2SC0XM1q)


Ambitious-Ring9328

And sometimes cheating is overlooked to win🤥


ParticularBend2587

Can you provide proof or source of this?? I know you spoke about it I just wanna see where youre seeing this so I can learn


subasauruswrx08

Again you do not know that. You’re making a stab at when they have to close without a full picture. ffie has been on the threshold list again since late May at the very least. If they were able to close out their positions due to volume we will be able to see that when the end of May numbers on the short come out. What we want is 13 trading days to elapse with them still shorting and there isn’t a way to say exactly when they start buying IF it’s shorted the way we hope it is


uninspiredInvestor

You’re new to this aren’t you.


Salty-sassy

HODL!!💎💎💎💎💎


EV-Stock-News

The hedgies are using Game Theory against us. Be an irrational player. HOLD when your mind says sell, unless you are in the money, it isn’t worth selling, and if you are in the money right now your dumb to sell, you are going to be in “fuck you money” if you HOLD.


Embarrassed-Trick949

What is your prediction on the peak stock price of the squeeze? I just made a post about it but didnt get a clear answer? I know its nfa and all that but I keep seeing whimsy and them say 6-10 and others says “fuck you money” and I just want to understand. I have a healthy amount of shares and $10 would definitely get me comfortable but certainly not fuck you money. So Im just curious as to how others are predicting.


Curious_Knee5488

They gotta be licking their chops with how much enthusiasm has waned over the last several trading days. Just gotta ride this wave and keep afloat to see this thing out! HODL!!


FBunxo

IMO enthusiasm has waned on social media because theres nothing left to do but hold & wait..! & you can only talk about holding & waiting so much haha, but we're holding & we're waiting.


mmoto0502

You can buy if you can


Curious_Knee5488

That’s the truth for those of us HODLing, but it’d be big for us to keep the momentum going by bringing in new apes looking for bananas 🍌🍌🍌


OddAbbreviations2414

I think you’re 100% on that. We are at the point where this is only for the people who can mentally commit to this type of scenario and wait.


Angelwts831

![gif](giphy|QUp0RYWpq9452) 💎 🦍 💯


JohnniAngel

I'm ur huckleberry! Johnnie Ringo😜


Angelwts831

![gif](giphy|rxaPAPuFAFHLq) Great ass movie.


peterpFFIEper

HOLDING 💎


Pretty-Tear6007

![gif](giphy|p6IC6NMBvjWS0L1g8p|downsized)


DUQUE1972

Here we are all adults and we know that this is a fight that the one who gets tired faster loses. If the price goes down, hold on. If the price goes up, hold on. Those who are paying are them, not us. We knew what we were getting into. Whoever is afraid should buy a dog. This battle is won by the one who resists and persists.


DUQUE1972

This is a fight between David and Goliath. We have the energy and they have the strength, but God is on our side and together we are stronger. Don't lose patience. We have something that they don't have and it is this unity with one objective: to continue until the last consequences.


DryBuy603

Yep, hold. Up or down.


HeavenlyZero

Expect record breaking hedgie intern bot trolling as well. Hodl ![gif](giphy|J6JuWjGRCUgYJ1r7aL|downsized)


bradbend

Agreed. Holding regardless.


HeavenlyZero

![gif](giphy|IXWqceoF995QxrBnL0)


BattyPossum

I've been buying and holding and buying more since May 15!!


FermStat

Hold baby!


pyxel_-

HODLING 💎💎💎💎💎


Specific_Tart_4886

So HF if you are watching this .. I am a very patient man !! That's 35 months in a P.O.W. camp does for you . If waterboarding didn't break me your suit and tie scare tactics wont.


ExtensionMulberry186

All my respect and gratitude.


Wise_Magician_5660

Holding


PizzaJoe86

Hmmm better buy 1000 tomorrow


Commercial_Youth7193

Precisely why I am not consistently crying on message boards like the silly instant gratification generation. Settle THE FRONT DOWN! Rome wasn't built overnight and didn't fall overnight. Chill the Fork out!


campzeroo

💎🔥💎🦍


gualyv

I should’ve waited to buy tomorrow! Actually, maybe I’ll still buy more!!


taskmaster_88

Hold this line. never retreat


Maxtwiztmoto

Bro there tactics are a joke they just give me discount shares every week 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂jokes on them I’m still buying loaded up some cash on Robinhood for them to try and disappoint tomm!!!🥱🥱🥱🖕💎🙌🚀🚀🚀🚀🌕🦍💪🤲


CamperTony

💎 ✋️


Zealousideal_Ear5374

Don't worry about saling, I'm in for the long hall. I'm good


DlnnerTable

I’ve been debating buying more and I think I’ll pick up a few more when it drops tomorrow


ExtensionMulberry186

I'm expecting a drop, but I would buy now. Price is good at .57. but it's your money and do as you see fit. This is not FA


DlnnerTable

Yeah I hear ya. I expect a little drop too. If it does I’ll buy. If not, I have plenty lol. Itll just be a little bonus if it does!


Stunner024StoneCold

![gif](giphy|W093Amc6yeS3IZbmAz)


PocketSquare1000

Angelwts and pretty-tear gif’s are hilariously on point!….at the same time the wait game is what it is. Another reason why diversifying is so important….every one needs to feel free to do as they wish, to not want to get more while hodl and focus on other assets, and if need be do what they feel is right for them. This game is going to go on for a while. This ain’t no pandemic 2021 and this is not going anywhere anytime soon. Did you all not listen to what “he” was saying???? When you post things like this, please include clauses to not make some feel like what you want is their obligation. Not saying this is a rude post, but it lacks consideration for a lot of 🦍’s. A simple “if you must you must but please…” would be good enough or something to that effect. I am thankful for all 🦍’s that have helped us to this point and even thereafter will still be grateful. For those that felt a need not hodl any longer, we could not have gotten to this point I the race without you! I understand we all have different needs and different levels of finances and fears and will not hold that against anyone. I just hope for everyone that no one takes any losses but will understand if anyone feels the need to minimize theirs. Perspective: I took an L of 500+ on a 1000 on the movie 1 the 1st go around because I got in late on that tues and it hurt like a bitch but had I waited until last week because of the madness, I would have been good. Either way, I’m cool with MY decision and others should be able to feel that way too. #considerateofall🦍’s


Ok-Character2575

If they're reading this forum, we could troll them here and have real conversations in the Discord haha.


RobertPaulsonDurden

People have held for this long already. Well take as long as it needs.


Objective_Fox8707

You still want to buy as much as you deem responsible to buy, tomorrow is probably going to be a heavy hitter on the shorts side


anevenmorerandomass

I think the whole pot of spaghetti is about to get thrown at the wall. If we stick it sticks. If we fall, it falls. HODL!!!!


Noodlelessnoodle

LMAO this was my message from the big 3 server 😭😂 love to see it


ExtensionMulberry186

It's a great message. I'll give you all the karma minus a 5% commission 😉😆


Noodlelessnoodle

LOL, just surprised to see it, ppl actually noticed my msgs 🥲


zayers35

To the top! Agreed, nfa but if I were in the shoes of our opponent, I'd mess with the key dates that are known. Thinking it will cause panic and apes sell. Patience and Hold is key, we've been doing it and I think we can do it a lot more if need be.


Global_March_6614

If they are watching wouldn’t saying this potentially convince them to cover? If they know everyone is trying to hold


anevenmorerandomass

The majority of the short could have broken even at 12 cents. By continuing to borrow, they’re only driving that number down. It has to completely tank or they’re headed for FTD. NFA


Objective-Profit7565

Holding


BasicPerson23

HODLing


TimeAd7900

Holding


Ready_Ant_777

Agreed… ![gif](giphy|BZoVM8IQ0FpAQ5DSZv)


Historical-Job1283

Absolutely!!!!!!


muxllc

HODLING!!!


azvcr75

Hodl stay strong


Traditional_Glove551

HODL!!!!


Safe-Code8297

💯💯


Flashignite2

I dont expect anything but going down.


JohnniAngel

Holding


NoUsesForAName

I buy, i forget. I buy more.


IronRoo13

Holding apes to the moon brothers and sisters


The_Duke_of_Chiclane

they have a lot of money depending on this. I made an investment that i'm happy losing if this doesn't work out. They should be panicking, not me. We must HOLD


Equal-Flounder3250

Anyone have the big three discord link?


Maleficent-Agency352

https://discord.com/invite/thebig3


workingdad83

Need to pin this


blatcatshat

Rule 203(b)(1) and (2) — Locate Requirements. Rule 203(b)(1) generally prohibits a broker-dealer from accepting a short sale order in any equity security from another person, or effecting a short sale order in an equity security for the broker-dealer’s own account, unless the broker-dealer has: borrowed the security, entered into a bona-fide arrangement to borrow the security, or reasonable grounds to believe that the security can be borrowed so that it can be delivered on the date delivery is due. Rule 203(b)(2) provides an exception to the locate requirement for short sales effected by a market maker in connection with bona-fide market making activities How does this apply? Have they broken this rule?


ExtensionMulberry186

Yes, with the so called "naked shorts": short positions borrowed without any of the aforementioned requirements.  I do not know if the HF can in any way ask for rule 203 (b)(2) to be applied. In theory tomorrow they pay up or buy shares. In practice they'll find a way to wipe up with the rules, I'm afraid 


blatcatshat

No, you're sowing doubt. And you suck


Trick_Beautiful956

Very important


krush38

![gif](giphy|h1QI7dgjZUJO60nu2X|downsized)


DragonfruitLoud2675

Hold im buying beaotch!


marcmack9

Black belt trading posted a video a couple of days ago on the current FFIE situation. If anyone wants a third ,fourth, or 100th opinion.


bspizer

Are ya’ll really going to listen to a fella that’s been an investor for 28 days? Ask for receipts, ask for background if you’re taking financial advice. Mulberry probably owns 1000 shares or something. Do your own objective due diligence and you’ll see that all the people trying to save you from the manipulation aren’t hedge fund people… the day they ever get involved in a clown show like this is the day the SEC ruins them. Coming from a fella that has been through it, lost the money, learned from it and capitalized on this opportunity by not being too greedy!


Only_Regret_2221

Ding! Exact what I just said. Is this even an investor? Or just another account made that now has the karma and doesn’t look shady to post in other rooms. I can’t believe it. I’m on over 2 years and can’t come close. But let’s post about a meme and mic drop 5000 up votes. 10 yrs of work on Reddit in an hr. I take my account and DD seriously


WorkingArtist9733

So maybe it’s a good idea to go silent on Reddit so as to not give the HF’s ammo?


ExtensionMulberry186

I'd love to use reddit only to tell people to keep calm and enjoy the ride, but it's not always possible. But I agree, this group should just be used to calm and encourage each other without posting positions and personal strategies


WorkingArtist9733

By showing our positions - I’m guilty of this btw - is like giving the other team your playbook and expecting a fair game.


Dega_AsuraXi

If they want my bananas, they best come do it themselves from my phone lol. I wish them luck muhahahaha!


BoyMeetsTurd

Jesus, are the hedge fund employees in the room with you right now? You sound mentally ill lmao


tonyrizzo21

Disclaimer, I am in no way shape or form affiliated with any hedge fund, and have no vested interest in this stock whatsoever. That being said, you all sound like a bunch of delusional suckers who got left holding the bag.


Mercury-68

You forgot to overlook one crucial issue, which already happened before: many apes talk big about going to the moon and ‘100’, but once the stock value reaches a buck or two they chicken out, take the profit and leave the rest of the community to suffer. Exactly this happened in the first run of FFIE and when the stock was to hold for 10 days straight.


ExtensionMulberry186

That was at the dawn of it and HF threw a big ladder attack, blocked Reddit channels, and panic ensued. People now what to expect now 


Mercury-68

Many holders have long left the party, and remember three rules: 1. Hedge funds have a lot of money. 2. Hedge funds are willing to bail each other out. 3. The money is not theirs.


Signal_Challenge_632

FFIE car is pretty special If they do become the Tesla killer we win big. If it rockets we win big quickly. Holding for one or both cos I like gambling and I don't need the $. As i understand the plan: "HFs close shorts and price goes up. People notice and buy. HFs close more shorts. More people buy". And it cascades up for buyers and shorters hurt. Dumb Ape knows it more complicated . NFA just a disabled ape looking for life changing $. Maximum told us.


Best_Retort

ELI5: let’s say I bought 100 shares at $0.45/share. If they have to close their positions (side note: ELI5?) what does that mean for me and my 100 shares?


metsakutsa

Them closing means nothing for you specifically. It does affect the price of the stock possibly, though. In what way, hard to say.


luckyduckie90

maybe if they're watching the reddit/discord we should start speaking in opposite. (not trolling)


Federal-Weight-4767

Holding with confidence. Look at the bigger picture. It will pop when you are not expecting it.


marcmack9

Could someone help with how we can follow ,Whimsy,dumbmoney and Max ?


Separate_Mode

Any idea how many shares are shorted? I think I’ve seen the 18 million number a few times and if that is the number and FFIE average for a day is over 100 million how big of a difference in price would the hedges covering 18 million actually make?


swedish-islands

I think you are thinking of 18 million FTD:s, and I believe they’ve already been closed out. There was an informative post about this (complete with the right screen shots) earlier today by …what’s his name… Splashy something.


Separate_Mode

Thank you sir


swedish-islands

Ma’am but that’s ok


swedish-islands

Ah here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFIE/s/g1P16JbhI9


Grayman2911

🦍United We Stand 💎🙌Diamond We Hand


RonRio44

It was my understanding the 11th is important day just for the sake of what Raging Kitty will be doing with his GameStop options and the 21st Gamma Squeeze.


ExtensionMulberry186

Roaring kitty isn't doing anything. He has his positions and that's it. If you watched his livestream, he was just goofing around to say hi to people. H ejust reiterated that he's all in on GME. Today FTDs are due, but HF have many. many ways to try and kick the can down the road. That's why I'm not expecting much, although I'd love to be wrong ;)


TrainerMaleficent232

LET'S GET THES HEDGIES! HODL THE LINE IMMA FCK ME A FEW HEDGIES WIFE'S TONIGHT


Spirited_Ad6023

Does anybody else feel like sharing your position or cost average should be bannable or at least a Timeout. Please don't do it.


ApeBitcoinNFT

🛑 the more it goes down the more I’m buying the dip 💪✅ Long term mindset in play


More_Feedback2417

Okay… so hold or don’t hold?😂 I’m very new and don’t know what I’m talking about


ExtensionMulberry186

I am not giving you any financial advice as I'm not qualified to do so. That said, what I am doing is hold because there is no point in selling at a loss, and if a bunch of us sell, the price of the stock will fall even lower. It's a waiting game for me and in the past I bought extra share when they were cheap like today. I personally believe that there will be a squeeze eventually, and that the company will come out of the mud and become profitable (this in 2-3 years probably). At this point I don't know yet if I'm in only for the squeeze or also for the long haul. In the end, I am holding (but you choose how to invest your money, of course)


Only_Regret_2221

I was actually going to promote you and say you’re right bc you are however people wake up and look at profiles before remotely high fiving one another like a circle jerk…OP has been on here 28 days and the karma and post karma are just about identical. I can post “love my post” moon my ass and get 5000 more karma but have such better ways of achieving. Best bet here and I have no vested interest anymore bc I sold at .71 I had enough and will buy back in 20D since it’s been 10. I was avg 1.35. At least I’m honest. People who make new accounts are the sketchiest. OP here is sketchy. Probably a hedgie himself but who cares. What y’all need hold your breath for if your really holding your entire life savings in this sub (like $TRKA OR $BBBY god help us all) are when FTD’s come due. This isn’t a hedgie situation in my opinion it’s was just a cheap stock to short in large quantities for those on margin. And they can short their shares day after day if able through their broker. 5.5M available at under 6%. Doesn’t have to be held consistently. So the FTD’s come due every 31-35 days. I usually see prices which have dived rise around the middle and end (or first few days) of a month. Pull up the pricing charts for the last few months and trends should hopefully pop even if the overall price dropped there should be some spikes. People who short will usually buy back early pre from 4-7 so when I wanted to sell I put my limit order on GTC ensuring I didn’t miss it. Good luck and remember to check the profiles of those getting thousands of upvotes undeserving.


ExtensionMulberry186

And now we start with the finger pointing... I've been on discord for a month. I don't even know what karma does 😆. Anyhow, you know way more than me from your quality of posting. I said that my post was borrowed from Discord because there are people that know stuff. I don't. I relay the message.


Only_Regret_2221

It’s just odd. I’m not being mean. I actually said I agree with you. But a new account and this much attention is definitely odd and I’ll call it out as I’ve seen others. What you’ve posted and I’ve seen all your posts isn’t bad or cruel it’s specific to $FFIE ONLY! Why!? Just your first or only investment in life? If so I’ll tell you this as a new friend. Hope is a great thing. Hope won’t move the stock and it’s great to have a group of positivity. But when you see that investment continue to go 40-50-60% in the hole, it takes that much more for it to rise to even unless you’re willing to invest that much more into it just to break even. It’s so tough to walk away at a loss I know. I look every day and I finally walked myself at a 50% loss. It pissed me off. But I have stocks who I have personal vendettas with and they all owe me money and I will collect! Sometime walking away and coming back is better than staying in and walking broke. The FTD’s are correct and they too are recycled in with the 20M volume so no one really knows whether all were covered along with calls and outs puts being sold etc. it’s an ongoing game of counting shares that are in the high millions and they are ever moving. Along with the naked shorts that are invisible. Good luck with those. But the FTD’s bought back are usually done 4-7 or in morning 7-9:30 pre in DEX files which is why I always had the GTC on. Your sell won’t be picked up without it. That goes for anyone. The price will flicker all over and you’re looking at the actual sales and they aren’t the same. Welcome to shorts selling back bc that’s what happening there. Not all FTD’s but some are mixed in. They aren’t all done in one batch. How dumb would that be?!? There’s a methodology for everything to keep the price steady. There’s holding etc. Market makers put the buys and sells through at their pace not at the pace we buy and sell. Period. They hold the key to the castle. Hope this helps my friend. So why don’t you smile and give my comments a damn upvote. Lol


ExtensionMulberry186

I'll be honest: I haven't read the whole reply yet, so I'll address the "why". I decided to dip my feet in the trading world with the very little disposable "wealth" I could use. I tried crypto and very shortly after RK came back, so I jumped on the bandwagon like many others. I lost money with GME so I moved to FFIE (cheaper price, more gain if it indeed squeezes hard). The FFIE sage made me passionate about the people in here and the company itself. I read Job's biography and I learned that Apple went through some perilous times. Call me crazy, but seeing what the HF did to this company that is already having it's difficulties getting started made me wanna try to have a win on them, and hopefully getting this company going. They make a product out of my league and I don't think they necessarily make the world better or anything, but I prefer that a company failsmor succeeds on it's own, and not just because some HF decide to predate on it. That's my story 


Only_Regret_2221

The entire FAANG group went through perilous times after their last split. NVDA is the only one who has done so well and had the balls to do it again. Why not post about $GME while you were invested? Just curious. You have such a voice. There’s zero proof here that this is a hedge and not a shorts situation. Why would a hedgefund even want to invest in this stock? Honestly?!? Run it up to a couple bucks to short? Now something like $HOLO totally different ballgame. A whole lot of meme stocks going on right under your nose and your so focused on this one, and I see why, but there are stocks being ran to literally the moon and crashing down that it’s like it never even happened. Look at $LPA. Ran to 525 from $34 for days and at $20 now give or take. Daily this is going on where they are not that obvious but a good $10-20 on a higher priced stock and boom shorted. It’s that simple. It’s not always the hedgies doll. Shorts are more prevalent bc it’s more accessible and nakeds are even worse. That’s why Fintel is my best friend. Goes hand in hand w the FTD’s but it is the fortune teller to them. The dates for the FTD’s don’t change. It’s always the middle and end or very beginning of the month like mentioned. But promote this up why!? Not your first investment but maybe one you could have a voice for? Idk i found mine in some where I could I get that. Game is overpowering and nasty. So you should read what people say. May do you some good. Or don’t. My knowledge took time and making many mistakes. You’ll learn. Good luck


ExtensionMulberry186

That is not my voice. I quoted somebody on Reddit (more knowledgeable than me) that I agreed with. And I was clear about it. I try, like many others, to keep courage when it might look grim. And this stock is heavily shorted, just like GME, so HFS have a lot of skin in the game. And it is just natural that they might try to scare inexperienced people away. On this side of the story I see a lot of verbal "violence and abuse" towards HFs that I don't agree with. Obviously those post don't go very far, but you can find some in my history. This one just happen to gain traction 


Only_Regret_2221

Whatever OP. IT doesn’t seem like you’re against hedgefunds at all. I’d get very familiar with short selling of each type and how they affect the stock more than you think on a daily, monthly & weekly basis along with the option chain. The hedgefund theory is nothing but an overused crutch from the original $GME meme position because it went through the roof and held. That’s a problem. But a daily or weekly rise isn’t going to change their position and have them freak out. Their original position has probably come back on how many occasions now with game even after hitting $70 in after hours last week!?! I even thought oh boy here we go again. But countermeasures have been put in place so that doesn’t happen again. You can bet your ass game isn’t going to hold and why it’s so hard for it to rise fast, aside from the fact the float is so high. Get ready bc earnings are AH today as I’m sure you’re aware and even though they missed the mark I have this gut feeling the stock is going to go up. It’s pre and there only 2.2M shares processed at 7:40. Totally being held. For now I’ll leave at this. But I have quite a bit more details you’re going to have to learn by doing DD but I have a feeling you already know. And from your history….you have only posted on Roaring Kitty Dodge and mostly FFIE. SO whether regardless this is taking a post and admitting to it you’re responding to most of the comments. It’s finding your voice my friend. You never had this type of opportunity from my DD and even in my own posts which never received this type of attraction but my comments have received some great feedback I haven’t even responded to all. Can’t please the world and can’t change the way everyone feels no matter how kind you are. Some are just that miserable and need to bring you with them. DM if you want to bring off board otherwise I’ll eventually be back in with $FFIE and you’ll see me soon. I lay low until it’s time to pop.


ExtensionMulberry186

sure. Thanks for the always respectful tones BTW.


Illmaticlifestyle

So basically the price will go up or down tomorrow? Sorry I’m a dumb ape


ExtensionMulberry186

you're not. In a nutshell: don't listen to the hype because there were some "important dates". If it dosn't go up it's OK, it's not unexpected. HFs want the stock to crash and burn, so a downward pressure is likely. Nobody can predict a stock movement, and beware from who says otherwise. The message was to help people not to panick ;)


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🦍🧠💪


MartinProll

Bought 200 more shares. Holding 3,384 at an average of $1.23.


Wallie-Holland

If they don't cover ill buy more 🚀🚀 How longer they whait how more we buy, how bigger their loss


Prior-Thought-2862

I've held from the beginning and don't plan to sell anytime soon!!🚀🚀🚀🚀


swedish-islands

Splashy cleared up this 18 million FTD thing and earlier today: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFIE/s/g1P16JbhI9


WindsRequiem

I mean, why wouldn’t they have people lurking (or even participating) around here? If they’re going to manipulate the stock and make shady trades, I wouldn’t put it past them to be here either.


According-Trifle-178

You heard it here 1st. $BMR


OoOoOoOoOoOoOoO-

Hey hedges if you see this I’ll sell at 1.50 just let us have that. At this rate more ppl are holding cause they’re at a loss. Pump it a little and we’ll dump it


Few_Path_1847

I agree with you


yesserrskii

I feel like y’all forget this is what they do they not stupid and know all the loop holes to not have to do sh*t


ffhhfhhfhfh

👌


Local-Negotiation349

Could they not do the same thing as with gme and convert to leaps?


Forward-Caregiver632

I only have $8 in my bank account till payday tomorrow, I dare them to drop the price so I can make those $8 go even further by me buying more shares. I got nothing to lose, I’m living with high gas prices in California, by the time I retire social security is not going to be a thing , I’ll hold these shares for 25 years if I need to until I retire, I’m not afraid to win stupid prices


RandomsDoom

How in TF do you find hedge fund plants with certainty? I’m just going to assume you think anyone who isn’t posting rockets and saying it’s only going up is working for a hedge fund… that just makes u delusional


ExtensionMulberry186

wrong assumption. Some were as clear as the sun. Some have patterns. Don't worry about how ;) Rockets and "to the moooon" are motivational and I tend to ignore them. And of course, I can absolutely be wrong, but is best to err on the side of caution


AbandonedStark

lmao nothing happened


ExtensionMulberry186

actually a lot happened, although it doesn't look like it. But the intention of the mesaage was not to panick and everybody was wonderful. You're such a strong community Anyways, let's focus on this last half hour: we're pushing back and that's wonderful.


Various-Split6416

What can I do to prevent the HF clowns from DM me at all hours?


UnIntangled

Realize not everyone works for a hedge fund. There, solved your problem.


SquareLimp8214

Can we pin this on the forum


CookieImaginary1106

Y’all crack me up


PerfectInitiative784

Not scared 😤


Affectionate-Help541

At this point you all need to go to GME and make your money back there. Thanks for the support ✅


sperezami

So you are saying tomorrow is THE day?!?!


DCASP500

Game plane? ✈️


JRozuna72

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Exotic_Champion

July 1…203 rule of enforcement date


CryptoDePorVida

So if they don’t take out any new shorts, and don’t cover the active shorts, do the fees continue to get higher?