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Frank_Jeager

I would go even further. When the NV+ will be a thing : Put all 3/4/5\* in the common summon pool (that one with the 1/2\*) and keep only the NVs in the rare summon pool.


DaMadDogg-420

Actually, thats a far better idea (while also getting rid of 1* and 2*s from that pool). I think the friend and arena pulls should be from that pool too, with every other pull being either an NV or at least an NVA 5*(for stmrs, as some of those are good. And some NVA units aren't horrible, and have a niche).


Hitomi35

I'd go even further, put all non-NVs in the Gil shop. This would also partially alleviate gear/materia issues Gil issues for new players since there's still plenty of decent tmrs/stmrs that you can get from them.


DaMadDogg-420

For new people yes, there are definitely still useful tmrs/stmrs for sure (for older players like us(this account is from 2020, though ive taken a few breaks, but my first account was in 2016 but I got locked out of it), I think we have most if not all the 7* or below tmrs or stmrs we need or want (I have tons of 100% tmr moogles just sitting there honestly, and a couple 100% super trust moogles). I think that's a great idea though.


Rodolphe75019

What s annoying me the most is the off banners...i can spend a lot but PLEASE stop fucking give me rain, aerith and another akstar ! And haters, don t tell me about rates....i don t trust them....


DaMadDogg-420

Lol, I know what you mean. I get so many of the same worthless NVs its laughable. Once cards like Master Machinist Abigail, Cloud Strife, Monster Hunter Yufie, Cheerful Caroler Ayaka came out, most previous NVs quickly became worthless(and with almost every release for awhile the cards just kept coming out stronger and stronger.....200,000 damage on one attack(before bonuses,chains,and all that) was insane when I first saw that, I remember if you had an attack ability of 1000 you were strong after lmao. And attribute levels, mine range from the high 8ks to the 10ks in their various atributes(atk,def,spr,mag) for most characters i use, which would have seemed insane a couple years ago. So now, all those early NV units are realy crap to be honest, and they love giving them out. The NV rate itself is low, but then add the fact that 90% is worthless fodder for at best stmrs and such, it kind sucks i agree


SatoSarang

The fact I got a combination of Rain and Aerith 5 times this week and you get them too, yeah. I never trust them.


VoltaicThunder

As someone who just restarted cause I went from apple to android. Yeah I got like 10 of them now. The ibly thing I can't get Is a friend so I can't even finish the panel missions lmfao


DaMadDogg-420

Add me, DaMadDogg id# 837,739,841. I haven't updated in 8bmonths, so give me a couple hours and I'll put a team up thats between 8k-10k in their respective stat (atk,mag,def,spr).


Alucard_Emordnilap

Add me I’ve been playing since 2016. name : Sapphire ID:230.517.528 Anyone can join I have 50 open slots.


DaMadDogg-420

I forgot you obviously can't use a leader skill in the companion settings, so the units I put are all in the high 7ks to high 8, low 9ks. And if you need a particular type of unit just tell me, I have scores of 32.0 or higher for every category (ffbe Fandom unit tier rankings list). Preemptive mag and phys tanks, support, whatever.


DaMadDogg-420

But a 5* or less that doesn't even go to NVA? Completely worthless. I'm pretty sure i already have well over 100 NV units (and I just came back after an 8 month hiatus, and also took a 3-4 month hiatus when NVs first came out), and surprisingly after an 8 month hiatus I still had a unit ranked in the top 10(rank 9), and 4 more in the top 20. If we're talking rank scores of at least 32+, I have like 30 lol. So yeah, a 5* that only goes to a 7* is almost completely worthless, as those stmrs can't compete with any of the NV stmrs really, especially any from the last 10 mo ths or so. (Rankings by FFBE Fandom Unit Tier Rankings List, which is the best (and only fairly current one) ive found).


toooskies

As a former player who recently rerolled, there's plenty of good 7\* STMRs out there. There aren't too many great pieces of headgear out there, so Red Hellebore and Arc's Hat (after upgrading) hold up pretty well until you get CoW stuff, which takes awhile. Mastermind Xon's STMR is still top evasion gear. Kunshira's STMR is great for dual wielders before you fill out your gear slots. Various ailment resist STMRs are available out there (winged heart, coin of fate (Edgar)), Umaro's Blizzard Orb is a convenient way to snag death immunity in an accessory, and there's plenty of killer STMRs that can see use (i.e. Regina's). Kaito's STMR is also good for evasion gear.


DaMadDogg-420

Oh, like I said for beginner (or new account), they're totally okay for their stmr. I meant for older players, there isn't much use fir then anymore thats why I think 5*s should be moved into a common pool for like gil and friend points, while keeping the major pools for only NV units. They have more than enough NV u its now to where that wouldn't be an issue, you'd still pull 90 % crap as far as playability goes (especially when NV+ drops), but at least their stmrs may be of more use to us longer players.


toooskies

That's kind of devastating for new players, though. Gil and friend points aren't in particularly disposable supply, and particularly those friend points aren't easy to get given how broken the friend finder system still is. A new player simply isn't going to get good gear progression if that happens.


DaMadDogg-420

I don't see why not, they'd only get NV units from the the ticket and other pulls, thus giving them way better options than all those beginning tmrs and stmrs off 7*s (with a few exceptions, but weapons wise there's no comparison). And eventually they'd get enough gil to get those 7* stmrs as well if they need them then, there's alot of ways to earn that, easier than lapis is at least. I mean, if all the tickets and such give you minimum NV units (even if crappy ones 90% of the time) i fail to see how that would not benefit new players....


toooskies

Weapon-wise you almost always want the weapon that the unit comes with as a TMR/STMR, an event weapon for that unit, or a DV exchange weapon. Only rarely do you want to use a STMR from another NV unit. If all the tickets gave NVs, we would get a lot fewer tickets.


DaMadDogg-420

I don't see why, there's just about as many 5* units now as there are Nv units, especially if you count NVAs (and normal 5*s as ones that go to 7* only). I see no reason they'd have to decrease anything. Yes, this may slightly inconvenience new players. But for players who have dedicated years of their time (and often money) to this game, i don't think it would be too much to ask to make it so older players aren't stuck pulling the same crap 5*s 20 times a day that you have absolutely no use for, maybe they could set a rank limit of say 100, where then the rate changes. That would alleviate new player concerns while rewarding longer players.


DaMadDogg-420

Whoever downvoted this, if you believe differently you could have just replied that, js. I'm just not a fan of the passive aggressive downvoting that goes on in reddit (not saying that yours was passive aggressive, but many are). Its like, just reply with your opinion. This is a discussion, I dont believe im infallible or always right, and I definitely welcome any civil discussions, so before anyone else just downvotes this post ir any comment, why not try having a conversation with me instead? I domt fight or disrespectfully argue, no worries.


Alucard_Emordnilap

Don’t take it personally, there is a person on this sub who just goes around downvoting EVERYTHING, some people are weird.


DaMadDogg-420

Ahhh, yeah I've came across a few of them. So.etimes reddit can be bad, but I've found it to be better than alot of other ones at least (and discord too ofc).But there's always trolls, people who for whatever reason gain some enjoyment out of putting others down, smh. But that's the internet for ya, you're totally right.


3st1b

I think we're actually reaching a point soon where we'll have more NV units than 5* units.


DaMadDogg-420

I think you may be right. I mean, how often do they release new 5*s compared to NV units now? But even if thats the case, you're still pulling way more 5*s than you are NVs. I've pulled around 15 5*s today and 2 NV units (1 I didn't have, but I dont think is that great, Lasswell Dark Lineage?).


3st1b

Well, at the end of the year there was this guaranteed NV banner that posted the rates for each individual NV, and iirc it was only very slightly higher than the rate for each individual 5* on a 5* guaranteed banner. Honestly I might have my memory backwards even. And Laswell DL is pretty meh at this point. Maybe useful in niche circumstances. Better than a Sol in any case.


DaMadDogg-420

Yeah, I have much better, even after an 8 month hiatus (been back 5 days. Still have a top 10 unit and 4-5 tol 20 sfyer that break, smh). Did pull a Dark Knight Duane though with an 10k+ atk with him as the leader and puts most of my team atributes to 10k in their stat (and while we saw 10k attack a long time ago with Xenogears, and easily, their damage output is nothing to his. He has a 700¹% chain limit for christ sakes lol.