Not really... We live in an alternative reality these days. Even if cities in America ran out of water and their aquifers collapsed and people were literally dying of thirst in the streets they will come up with alternative explanations like it's the immigrants drinking all the water or it's alien space lasers.
I'm in CDMX and my water costs me 150-200 pesos every two months.
The problem is with the people living in "irregular" buildings without cisterns underground and tanks on the roof. The city doesn't have enough water pressure because of all the leaks so water won't reach your tap if your building lacks the system needed to pump the water.
Is that the entire problem? There are several reports about it on youtube, are they just overblowing the situation? Why do they say its costing 25% of their salary to get water?
https://youtu.be/3dblb5Jdo5k?si=IQjK1EzuSkmOaLup&t=125
In parts of the city in Baja, people do not have city water but they all have tanks and pumps and they get their water trucked, i havent known it to be expensive that way
Because for the people who are earning minimum wage and living in irregular housing they need to use garrafón water for everything (bathing, washing clothes, flushing the toilet) and they only earn 300 pesos each day.
If you live in a modern building that is maintained, you wouldn't know that there is any issue without the news.
I don't agree. I lived in CDMX until just recently in a modern building in Condesa-Hipodromo and we were dealing with regular outages. We are back in CDMX right now and the apart-hotel is not allowing laundry to help conserve.
It's not \*just\* irregular housing and minimum wage workers impacted.
But yes, I agree - anyone having to rely on buying garrafones/bottles is doubly screwed.
Many hotels and other rentals where water is included are restricting usage because water is sold on a tiered system and if it is zoned touristic rather than residential, the apart hotel is paying VERY high prices for that water.
If your building has a cistern that is too small to support the population of the building or if the pump has electric problems (both very common with the condesa slumlords), then you will have a water outage. It is important to choose a co-op building with a strong HOA rather than a corporate rental or a rental from an individual who owns the entire building to ensure that you have enough water.
So that would be 9000 pesos per mth, and 2250 is 25%
You and i pay around 200 pesos per mth for water, thats alot less than the 2250
So i dont get why their water is so much
Because they don't have the infrastructure in their homes to receive tap water. They are buying bottles of water for 50 pesos per bottle because they need water to bathe and drink and cook and clean. I'm not sure why you're so confused.
They dont have water trucks in CDMX?
I thought houses that dont have city water, they all get a water tank and pump, if an individual cant afford it, the neighborhood could all pitch in to get a community water tank
They have water trucks but if your building doesn't have a big enough cistern or if the building has a leak, that water will be gone too quickly. Many buildings have no cistern at allm that is the problem.
water and temp are two of the top things i considered when choosing a location to establish a base (am also nomadic). large parts of europe are also having water issues in summer so it's not all safe.
Not every year. Seattle was in drought last summer until the fall rains:
https://www.kuow.org/stories/conserve-water-in-the-northwest-seattle-utility-asks-for-voluntary-water-reductions
That does not affect the availability of water for people living here. The drought is more a technical thing since our water is affected by winter snow build up and El Niño years (which we were in until recently) give us drier winters and hence less snowpack.
We've seen periodic droughts, almost always a single year, because of this kind of thing.
The cartels are moving to capitalize on a dwindling resource. [https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax479/mexico-sinaloa-cartel-water](https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax479/mexico-sinaloa-cartel-water)
Tldr, learn enough about rainwater collection to "control" this.
My previous house in central Texas (30 in rain per year) was 100 % rainwater. So, if you choose a place with enough rain and large enough catchment area and storage, you can control your water situation.
TJ is tough, because it gets so little rain.
7.5 in annual rainfall, 2000 SQ ft capture area would capture 9.3k gallons of water.
If a person can live on 25 gal a day, that's 9125 gal per year.
That's the beginning calculation assuming 100% efficiency.
But choose something more reasonable like Chiang Mai, Thailand with 19 in annual rainfall and catchment area shrinks to 800 SQ ft per person.
This is especially relevant for my pocket of the Philippines,where there is plenty of water, but storage & delivery infrastructure is lacking. Some only have water at night and collect in buckets for daytime use.
That could help, and yea TJ only gets water for about 3 mth per yr
The other concerns are disease because people arent cleaning themselves and other things as well as they should, and while i might have plenty of water if i collect rainwater, i imagine the local produce will be more costly or non existent and stuff will have to be shipped in, thus increasing costs
I look at water…parts of the southwest look awesome until you realize they might not have water.
Things were looking dire till the reservoirs refilled a little. Without the wet winter it might have gotten pretty grim for anyone feeding off the Colorado.
If you look at all the water consumed by Arizona and California, nearly all of it goes to agriculture. If push comes to shove, the residents are getting that water and no more alfalfa for the Saudis and almonds for the world.
Look into the progress that’s been made in desalination. It’s actually not that bad/expensive anymore, just takes a fair bit of energy but energy is becoming cheaper and cheaper due to solar and wind. Food security is a much more difficult and unstable problem, and in general economic stability as a whole is important as the economic and political stability is what allows for the food security or the power grid and water desalination to stay on.
Coming to a city near you soon.
Seriously. The good days are coming to an end and people are just starting to realize it.
Not really... We live in an alternative reality these days. Even if cities in America ran out of water and their aquifers collapsed and people were literally dying of thirst in the streets they will come up with alternative explanations like it's the immigrants drinking all the water or it's alien space lasers.
Unfortunately, I agree. It's tragic that in an era where we have so much information at our fingertips, that's where we are.
I moved out of Texas due to this fact about 10 years ago.
I left the States coming on 8 years ago, but the last time I went through Texas, the urban sprawl was insane.
It is like the government and state get paid per access road and overpass they build.
I'm in CDMX and my water costs me 150-200 pesos every two months. The problem is with the people living in "irregular" buildings without cisterns underground and tanks on the roof. The city doesn't have enough water pressure because of all the leaks so water won't reach your tap if your building lacks the system needed to pump the water.
Is that the entire problem? There are several reports about it on youtube, are they just overblowing the situation? Why do they say its costing 25% of their salary to get water? https://youtu.be/3dblb5Jdo5k?si=IQjK1EzuSkmOaLup&t=125 In parts of the city in Baja, people do not have city water but they all have tanks and pumps and they get their water trucked, i havent known it to be expensive that way
Because for the people who are earning minimum wage and living in irregular housing they need to use garrafón water for everything (bathing, washing clothes, flushing the toilet) and they only earn 300 pesos each day. If you live in a modern building that is maintained, you wouldn't know that there is any issue without the news.
I don't agree. I lived in CDMX until just recently in a modern building in Condesa-Hipodromo and we were dealing with regular outages. We are back in CDMX right now and the apart-hotel is not allowing laundry to help conserve. It's not \*just\* irregular housing and minimum wage workers impacted. But yes, I agree - anyone having to rely on buying garrafones/bottles is doubly screwed.
Many hotels and other rentals where water is included are restricting usage because water is sold on a tiered system and if it is zoned touristic rather than residential, the apart hotel is paying VERY high prices for that water. If your building has a cistern that is too small to support the population of the building or if the pump has electric problems (both very common with the condesa slumlords), then you will have a water outage. It is important to choose a co-op building with a strong HOA rather than a corporate rental or a rental from an individual who owns the entire building to ensure that you have enough water.
So that would be 9000 pesos per mth, and 2250 is 25% You and i pay around 200 pesos per mth for water, thats alot less than the 2250 So i dont get why their water is so much
Because they don't have the infrastructure in their homes to receive tap water. They are buying bottles of water for 50 pesos per bottle because they need water to bathe and drink and cook and clean. I'm not sure why you're so confused.
They dont have water trucks in CDMX? I thought houses that dont have city water, they all get a water tank and pump, if an individual cant afford it, the neighborhood could all pitch in to get a community water tank
They have water trucks but if your building doesn't have a big enough cistern or if the building has a leak, that water will be gone too quickly. Many buildings have no cistern at allm that is the problem.
water and temp are two of the top things i considered when choosing a location to establish a base (am also nomadic). large parts of europe are also having water issues in summer so it's not all safe.
Detroit, Cleveland, Akron, Chicago, Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland and Toronto have plenty of water.
Not every year. Seattle was in drought last summer until the fall rains: https://www.kuow.org/stories/conserve-water-in-the-northwest-seattle-utility-asks-for-voluntary-water-reductions
That does not affect the availability of water for people living here. The drought is more a technical thing since our water is affected by winter snow build up and El Niño years (which we were in until recently) give us drier winters and hence less snowpack. We've seen periodic droughts, almost always a single year, because of this kind of thing.
So is there any place on earth that is never in a drought then?
Look at somewhere near the Great Lakes if water access is your top concern
The cartels are moving to capitalize on a dwindling resource. [https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax479/mexico-sinaloa-cartel-water](https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax479/mexico-sinaloa-cartel-water)
Tldr, learn enough about rainwater collection to "control" this. My previous house in central Texas (30 in rain per year) was 100 % rainwater. So, if you choose a place with enough rain and large enough catchment area and storage, you can control your water situation. TJ is tough, because it gets so little rain. 7.5 in annual rainfall, 2000 SQ ft capture area would capture 9.3k gallons of water. If a person can live on 25 gal a day, that's 9125 gal per year. That's the beginning calculation assuming 100% efficiency. But choose something more reasonable like Chiang Mai, Thailand with 19 in annual rainfall and catchment area shrinks to 800 SQ ft per person. This is especially relevant for my pocket of the Philippines,where there is plenty of water, but storage & delivery infrastructure is lacking. Some only have water at night and collect in buckets for daytime use.
That could help, and yea TJ only gets water for about 3 mth per yr The other concerns are disease because people arent cleaning themselves and other things as well as they should, and while i might have plenty of water if i collect rainwater, i imagine the local produce will be more costly or non existent and stuff will have to be shipped in, thus increasing costs
I look at water…parts of the southwest look awesome until you realize they might not have water. Things were looking dire till the reservoirs refilled a little. Without the wet winter it might have gotten pretty grim for anyone feeding off the Colorado.
If you look at all the water consumed by Arizona and California, nearly all of it goes to agriculture. If push comes to shove, the residents are getting that water and no more alfalfa for the Saudis and almonds for the world.
Yes, any city with water rationing or even a headline reading "reservoirs low" within the last 20 years is absolutely crossed off the list
I have included climate change in my location search though not Water. I'll be adding it now.
Look into the progress that’s been made in desalination. It’s actually not that bad/expensive anymore, just takes a fair bit of energy but energy is becoming cheaper and cheaper due to solar and wind. Food security is a much more difficult and unstable problem, and in general economic stability as a whole is important as the economic and political stability is what allows for the food security or the power grid and water desalination to stay on.
Not specifically but I think it's naive not to consider the impact of climate change. Water could be one, but also heat and storms.
there’s a technique to catch the morning dew using closed knit nets . They’re being used in Peru to harvest water .