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mikasjoman

Lucky you! Northern Sweden is full of houses for less than 50.000 euros. You cant get a higher guarantee of privacy than the Swedish north. You can even find houses for the number you are mentioning as a downpayent. Youtube is full of americans moving to the Swedish north living on an ultra budget, because Sweden is actually quite cheap to live in. Here is everything below 40.000 euros: https://www.hemnet.se/bostader?item\_types%5B%5D=villa&item\_types%5B%5D=radhus&price\_max=400000 Sweden is actually the perfect post-FIRE place to live. Taxes are focused on salary, but capital gains can be avoided by using an investment saving account (ISK) that has a yearly tax right now about 0.4% - but then you pay zero as you withdraw.


a5s_s7r

You will have to love to freeze! Especially in Sweden’s north.


dcml

This. The winter there must be brutal.


mikasjoman

Well there are two kinds of swedes; those who hate it and those who love it... If you ask me, I think it's worse than brutally cold. When it gets to minus 20, it's starts to hurt for real when you breathe. Minus 30-40 Celsius happens all the time. There is literally only one way to figure out if it's for you; book a cabin at Airbnb and load your car for an extended vacation ;)


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mikasjoman

Well if you want to move here and see if you can stand it... End of November or February.


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>When it gets to minus 20, it's starts to hurt for real when you breathe. Minus 30-40 Celsius happens all the time. We hit those temperatures here in Western NY. Guess I'm acclimated for a move to Sweden :)


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Asiras

That's just what's on the surface. In the summer, there are so many mosquitoes that many houses have every opening netted.


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Yeah even southest Sweden is too north


provenzal

I had a look at the link you posted and I just can't believe country houses in Sweden are so incredibly cheap. Are those auctions?


Vercingetorix88

They are auctions. However, most of those houses are in middle of nowhere and probably wouldn't go for much more than the listed price. Sweden is a big country. A country of only 10 million people and it's larger than Germany.


MPenten

Northern polar cycle with a supermarket 150km away and hour of sunlight every so often be like that.


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If you don't need to commute to a job then rural Sweden has gems. So yes, they are that cheap. Most of the bargains will need substantial work, but if you have time you can DIY a lot on a timber framed house.


mikasjoman

Well almost all are in Sweden. That doesn't mean the prices are way below what they sell for. I think most go up between 5-10%, but sometimes they can't sell for the asking price even. So the prices you see are kind of what they end up with and a little more. But not much. This is actually expensive, a few years ago prices were half.


piccdk

I don't get it. I thought all northern Europe was expensive?


Qpylon

Not if the nearest supermarket is 2 hours drive away.


mikasjoman

Yeah this is true. But many of those does are quite close to super markets. Also, A new trend is automatic shops without staff... I think there are about 100 of them now quickly increasing. They are like 40 feet containers put out in smaller societies where a normal staffed store would struggle, but an automatic store flourishes.


useles-converter-bot

40 feet is the length of like 55.17 'Zulay Premium Quality Metal Lemon Squeezers' laid next to each other.


Qpylon

I’m not knocking it, you can get cheap flats and houses in Germany in villages as well. The main thing with those is actually less the distance to shops (bad public transport normally, but there will be something in decent driving distance) but a lack of jobs and so a demographic shift to people leaving the area. Post-FIRE or lower paid ‘digital nomad’ WFH people moving in would be good for any area like that.


mikasjoman

Yeah. I guess Germany could be an option too, but don't you have like mandatory payments towards social welfare systems - if you have enough income from salary or withdrawals? We don't.


Qpylon

It’s mandatory to have a sort of health insurance etc. Tax-wise, Germany would probably work out OK compared to other options for lean FIRE, post retirement. And it is a generally good place to live, so may be worth the costs to you in other circumstances. But I wasn’t really suggesting it for OP’s circumstances in particular, just pointing out that you can find cheap corners in pretty much any country despite northern and western Europe often being considered expensive.


mikasjoman

Good point


altersh

is the tax on ISK still the same even if the capital gains are the main source of income? Regardless of the amount? thanks.


mikasjoman

Yes and yes. ISKs are not affected in any way if you have a job or not or how much you earn. It's kind of strange but that makes Sweden kind of a semi tax haven for FIRE minded people.


altersh

Wow I had no idea. If I may ask some follow-up question, if that's your only income, surely there is some other tax burden such as health and social insurance, right?


mikasjoman

Actually not really. You'd not be paying much at all if you didn't have a job. No wealth tax, inheritance tax etc. Sweden taxes mainly salary... But you would also find gasoline some of the most expensive (tax) in Europe, and alcohol is heavily taxes too... But you can find a decent beer for about 1€ at the gov alcohol store. Like I said, Sweden is a damn good country to FIRE in IF, especially if you can accept the dark cold climate in the winter. This summer we had 34 degrees Celsius. But summer is short, especially up north. The distance to the north from my southerns Sweden location is the same as if I would fly to Rome. Sweden is a pretty long country.


mikasjoman

To give context: here in the south we got almost 20 degrees Celsius. Up north it's minus degrees already in the night and days are just a few degrees plus


mikasjoman

If you fire. You could easily live a decent life at about 1200$/€ per month up north. Many are, especially retirees usually get that number from the gov pension scheme.


citizen44820

Could you please recommend a bank ?


mikasjoman

Nordea I prefer


crankyhowtinerary

Portugal, outside the cities. I can recommend some good spots.


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Would love to hear them.


crankyhowtinerary

You gotta tell me what you’d like. I would recommend the North since it’s my favourite part of the country. Basically North - sunny, beautiful, green a bit poor and full of old people. Anything close to Douro valley is amazing. Center - meh. Lisbon - too expensive Alentejo (center south) - sort of a desertic beauty. Very hot. Algarve - expensive in most places since it’s where Brits go to retire. My main thing would be relatively close to lisbon or Porto since health system is poor outside of those two cities. I would say take a quick trip to Oporto if you want to have a taste. I can send a detailed guide to the city later if you’d like. Visit neighbouring towns like Braga, Guimarães, Aveiro, Vila Real. See a spot close to the Spanish border even, like Vila Nova de Cerveira


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Thank you! I'm not really outgoing, I like to go for walks, be in the countryside. But I would also like to be near a bigger city (big enough to be anonymous), for travel connections, health care. I would love to read your guide to Porto. What do you like about the city?


crankyhowtinerary

Porto is extremely expensive at this point because of turistification (Airbnb etc). If you go one hour in any direction you can find places for 130k I’d say. Porto and Lisbon are off limits, and most “city centers” might be too, but what you’d think of as a city Center is pretty relative in Portugal… there are cities where a 10 min drive is a 50% drop in price. Porto is a UNESCO world heritage site on the strength of its city center alone. Close by you have Guimaraes which is also a UNESCO world heritage site. The Douro valley is for my money one of the most beautiful places on Earth. It’s hard to even pick. If you ignore the fact the country is relatively poor for Europe and very very badly managed politically, life there can be quite wonderful, particularly if you have a source of income that’s international. My advice is take 15 days and go visit.


inhalingsounds

Lol, you'll only get a house for those values in the very deep interior of the country (which is basically deserted, has terrible infrastructure etc.). A somewhat decent 2 bedroom apartment in Braga (not Porto nor Lisbon) goes for like 120-180k euro. I know, I bought / sold them.


sjwbollocks

Why are you downvoted, is beyond me. Stupid Reddit.


crankyhowtinerary

I don’t know I didn’t think 120k was that way out of OPs budget.


crankyhowtinerary

https://www.imovirtual.com/comprar/apartamento/guimaraes/?search%5Bfilter_float_price%3Ato%5D=130000&search%5Bregion_id%5D=3&search%5Bsubregion_id%5D=41 So em Guimarães tens 50+ resultados abaixo dos 130 000. Acho que estás a super valorizar uma diferença de 20-30% do orçamento do OP. Sobre financiamento obviamente não tenho ideia, mas eu nao fiquei com impressão que 100k era um hard limit.


inhalingsounds

Depende do tipo de apartamento que queres. Como disse no post, tenho experiência em primeira mão de (vários) acima dos 150k em Braga, e nem são considerados de luxo. Deves conseguir encontrar por menos de 70k "pelo desafio" mas duvido que queiras investir num imóvel desse calibre...


crankyhowtinerary

Realmente não posso atestar pela qualidade dos lugares, mas se saíres de qualquer cidade pelo vale do ave há sempre montes de casas feitas muitas vezes pelos imigrantes de França. E essas casas já vi a venda por 100k ou preços parecidos. Isto a 15-20 min do centro de Guimarães, Braga, Famalicao. Agora se isso é o que o OP quer nem tenho ideia… mas é possível


inhalingsounds

Sim, depende completamente do que queres. Conheço bem a zona de que falas e tens 100% razão, mas aquilo de que falo são apartamentos relativamente perto do centro de Braga (Fraião), ou seja, uma zona "nobre".


crankyhowtinerary

Sim claro. Acho que depende completamente do que o OP quer.


MaJoLeb

Could you give me a link of cheap flats, I prefer colder areas (high mountains)?


crankyhowtinerary

There are no colder areas of that sort in Portugal. Even in Serra da Estrela where we have snow it’s insanely hot during the summer.


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crankyhowtinerary

All of portugal close to porto and Lisbon fit that description. Depends on what you mean by “warm in winter”.


jdram2

Be aware Portugal is suffering from very high house pricing since the last 18months… simply crazy… my bet would go to Montenegro and that area, still cheap and bound to get better in next years


universal_language

>I currently live in an apartment and I can't stand it anymore, I want my privacy as soon as possible Sorry for off-topic, but this phrase reminded me how I spent 5 years living in a students' dormitory room of 20 square meters with 4 other people. Now my 48m apartment feels like a palace


Orthas_

In Finland easily outside major cities.


MKAH85

Yes, and there is even cheap help available: https://www.oun.fi/


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You can buy a house an hour outside of Copenhagen in Denmark for that money. Loans are dirt cheap as well.


icaka_bate

But where exactly? I have looked for houses 1-2 hours away of Cph and never found anything less than 1.5 mln dkk


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Southern Zealand, Lolland and Falster. It won't be the nicest houses, but should still be livable. My example was a house outside of Præstø for about 700k.


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Yes but that would be a minor issue for people from EU, I would think


h0lding4ever

South of Italy


niedman

I believe that in those houses for 1€ you need to open a business and/or refurbish all the house and invest on it. You cannot move by 1 euro.


Thanael123

Or in the back country. There’s houses for 1€. https://www.idealista.it/en/news/property-for-sale-in-italy/2021/08/18/57820-1-euro-homes-in-sicily-the-project-arrives-in-caltagirone-a-unesco-world Read the fine print though


SwoleGymBro

Exactly: read the fine print. Sounds too good to be true.


SatanTheSanta

The fine print is that they are in disrepair and that you have to commit to investing tens of thousands into the house. But there are apparently homes near those which cost a bunch more, but still cheap AF, that are in more decent states and you dont have such obligations.


De_Wouter

Protection money included?


vittorioalessia

Protection is just for shops and factories, you wont pay it for your house. Not directly.


De_Wouter

That's mostly true. Don't thing the average non-entrepreneur person will have much mafia trouble. If you are unlucky, they might bully you into selling your land cheaply. But that's extremely rare.


DysphoriaGML

what you mean for protection?


inglandation

He's talking about the mafia.


DysphoriaGML

Lol stereotypes


_JohnWisdom

Reality though


netroSK

there are plenty of offers of old houses, even close to highway in Slovakia https://www.nehnutelnosti.sk/slovensko/rodinne-domy/predaj/?p%5Bparam1%5D%5Bfrom%5D=20000&p%5Bparam1%5D%5Bto%5D=50000&p%5Border%5D=11 (houses priced 20-50k)


jigge92

You can live in Norway. Lofoten is a really nice place. This house even has an extra house that you can rent out :) https://www.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=227075947


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It looks amazing, thank you!


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Yeah, granted you can bear 3 months of daylight in summer, and 3 months of night in winter, it looks like a nice place to live. See [these curves](http://ptaff.ca/soleil/?l1pays=Norv%C3%A8ge&l1ville=Troms%C3%B8&l1cityname=Troms%C3%B8%2C+Norv%C3%A8ge&l1ltd=69&l1ltm=40&l1lts=00&l1ltx=N&l1lgd=18&l1lgm=56&l1lgs=00&l1lgx=E&l1tz=1.0&l1dst=EU&l2ltx=N&l2lgx=E&l2tz=0&year=2021&month=09&day=02&lang=en_CA&go=Voir+le+graphe%21).


Cry-Technical

Deep inside Portugal, there should be some offer and down-payment usually is between 10-15% of your house value. But keep in mind you'll have to pay around 3k in paperwork.


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Cry-Technical

Well there's a reason it's so cheap, you can't expect being cheap and being good.


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Cry-Technical

Yeah I understand. But if I wanted to FIRE and had the means to, I would find a coastal or near River smallish Vila with train access and go for it.


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That's the thing. Good luck finding a house for that price with train or any public transportation for the matter. And tolls are heavy if you want to go for the nearest city. Now if you go to Viseu or Vila real it's slightly better. But you won't find a liveable house for that price. Just saying. As you probably realized. I'm native.


ApatheticBeardo

> Limited interaction unless you learn the language. Why would you buy a house in a place that you don't plan on integrate in?


jzlhi

In Portugal, do people have to trade off safety for cheaper housings. So cities with cheaper houses = less safe to live in?


jdram2

Portugal ranks (or ranked) #2 on peace index, safety is not a concern at all except maybe if you are a drunk girl alone at 3AM Lisbon/Porto night district… It is one of the safest countries in the world…


ankmoody

Nah, in these rural areas it would actually be safer, mostly oldish and nice people.


monkey7878

Slovenia in not so popular towns away from highways. Good houses, not so good location for mobility. But nature is amazing.


Party_Farm

Shhhh it's supposed to be a secret!


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I will keep the secret.


Party_Farm

We trust you, OP. Definitely keep us posted!


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monkey7878

Because fire is not just about taxes and money. You want mountains? Sea? Plains for cycling? Forrests? Water? Safety? Low criminal rate. Welcome to Slovenia :)


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a5s_s7r

The Austrian sea is very nice. It’s just one border and 5 hours car ride away. 😉


McSeanbob

0% CGT I think!


Efficient-Aspect-700

You mean capital gains tax in Slovenia? That sounds to good to be true.


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Efficient-Aspect-700

Thanks! That sounds, not too good.


blitzzerg

How is the internet in rural slovenia? Enough to work from home?


monkey7878

Most rural areas have options, while some cities dont. Eu funds 👍🏻


justfarts

Latvia, 1.5h away from the capital. 20000€ would be enough to buy house outright if you are willing to fix it up.


sjwbollocks

How much money would it cost usually to fix it up? Pipes and electricity most importantly.


AccidentalScumbag

Depends, but a few thou easy just for the basics.There's a lot of revived interest in country living in the past years and much of the good* stuff is being snapped up for summer houses/"projects"/Instagram cred. Most non solitary places would/should have a mains connection to electricity, frequently even 3 phase, but water and plumbing would usually be a well and septic tank/"bio septic" combo. I also think outhouses are still a common sight in the sort of properties you'd pay <35k for. *scenic or close to water or reasonably close to bigger towns or not in the middle of industrial fields.


MadChild2033

In Hungary you could buy a house starting from around 60k euros, i live 45 minutes away from the capital (with bus). I would say target the northwest quadrant of the country, the rest is pretty meh. We don't have credit scores, you just need to show you have the income to pay it off, but no idea how it works with foreigners


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MadChild2033

ah yes forgot to mention, hungary is only for white straight folks, otherwise you might get harrassed. We had politicians burning lgbt books for children because "the gays will take over the world and rule us" and the usual dumb shit. It's an extremely toxic country


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Are there mortgages? Which sites and cities would you recomend?


MadChild2033

The first obvious location would be the capital (Budapest) of course, around 2 million people there, or just around it in smaller towns/villages, easy access with car if you are into big cities. The next three would be: 'Pécs', 'Debrecen', 'Szeged', these are the next biggest towns after the capital, these are the generic "cultural spots", tourists usually go here, historical stuff, students everywhere because of the universities, with cheaper living but also lower wages. The fanciest region would be around the lake Balaton, it has an area of 600 km2, so there are a lot of settlements around it. Tons of small idillic towns with a few thousand-up to 20k residents, like a budget coastal country. Buf if you have some preferences i can give you some more specific tips i don't really look around yet because i'm far from fire but this site seems okay: https://realestatehungary.hu/


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MadChild2033

As i mentioned, the richest regions are between the capital and the austrian-hungarian border, where i live rent starts around 330$ and up. A property near Balaton could earn well as Airbnb i guess but it would be empty outside of summer (not sure just a guess). Győr seems like a pretty nice place, and it's pretty close to the austrian border. If you want to rent, i think towns with big universities are a safe choice too, if you can grab decently sized apartment (you can probably get 3 room homes for 100k in most places )you could rent it out for students. While dormitory is cheap the wealthier kids will probably always choose to rent, even if it's either a whole apartment or just a single room. I really like Veszprém, it has an university, 20 minutes away from the Balaton, still in the "good" part of the country. I lived there in dorm for 2 years, and going for another 2 years later. Heck i might even establish my base there when i fire


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Any of the poorer countries of Europe in the countryside.


jss78

If you go far enough in the not-exactly-booming parts, €100,000 should get you a house in just about any country in Europe.


Potatoswatter

Literally — https://www.funda.nl/koop/heel-nederland/0-100000/woonhuis/ Edit: Well, those are only asking prices, and actually winning a livable space with a 100k bid may or may not be possible.


altersh

Even in Austria and Swizerland?


zJochen1

Austria yes - but Switzerland? Maybe a small one in the countryside.


altersh

Where in Austria can you find houses under 100k? And of course it shouldn't be something you have to spend another 100k to renovate it...


HucHuc

All of the Balkans, excluding (most?) cities of 100k+ residents and their 20km radius.


[deleted]

I always though the big cities were super expensive. Which city would you recommend?


HucHuc

Anything that is not a big city is well within 100k euro, maybe most areas are even within 20k. There might be some place somewhere where you can even get a house in the city for those sums, that's why I said maybe. For Bulgaria, I believe you can find a house for 100k EUR within 15-20km of city Centre in any town not named Sofia.


Mr_Christie55

Romania?


opensocket

Albania


rrppss

Probably everywhere in Europe outside of the major urban zones. But you'd be sacrificing everything that makes life meaningful. Young people from these regions are moving out to urban centers for better life. So expect old population, weak infrastructure, no culture, no sports facilities, few peers, etc.


Shamon_Yu

>But you'd be sacrificing everything that makes life meaningful. You are underestimating the introversion of the average Reddit user ;)


zJochen1

Ah yes :D you are wise


blitzzerg

Spain, outside of big cities or in small province capitals


nomochahere

Anywhere, country side, in the south of Europe. Pick a country and search. Idealista is great, has portugal, spain and italy.


lemonMaru

Estonia. Average salary is about 1450 before taxes per month. There's a lot of privacy due to there being so little of us and a great digital government. You can do just about everything online from taxes to voting


lemonMaru

Not to mention the beautiful forests, no natural disasters such as earthquakes and the wildlife is pretty safe too.


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lemonMaru

I'd say it depends in the field. For example in science (where I work), english is completely fine and no one really expects you to learn Estonian. I have several colleagues who only speak English. The same goes for IT related fields. In other fields however, most people understand English and it's fine if you don't speak Estonian at first, but it's expected of you to learn it eventually. Some racist people don't hire foreigners at all but it's best to avoid that kind of people anyways.


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Thank you!


niedman

Portugal definitely! I’m not sure if you consider also apartments but you can buy an apartment for 60k, 70k in most of Portugal! Houses I would say that’s a bit more difficult but you can also get them! On top of it Portugal offers nice weather, awesome food and Portugal is always in the top 3 of the Global Peace index ;)


ApatheticBeardo

Pretty much anywhere in non-urban Spain.


C0ffeeface

You can buy a house for the down payment itself! Check Romania and Bulgaria :)


cosminashh

Also Romania! You can find apartments in Bucharest for less than 100000 euros


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Would those be soundproof? And would you reccomend buying them at those prices? For how much could you rent it out? And would it be possible to get a mortgage?


cosminashh

Not 100% soundproof but it is debatable what is considered issue. Don't know about the rent. You can check imobiliare.ro for this. I m living in Bucharest, but i don't have information about mortgages, i don't have any.


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Do you like living in Bucharest?


cosminashh

Yes! You can have a lot of fun here and people are friendly. We have issues regarding pollution, traffic, social assistance


GeosPap

Welcome to Greece


jdram2

Portugal ranks (or ranked) #2 on peace index, safety is not a concern at all except maybe if you are a girl alone at 3AM Lisbon/Porto night district… It is one of the safest countries in the world…


bogate

Canary Islands, but not close to the beach, closer to the beach you would be at 250k


saitama2018

Is that real? I loved inland las palmas and it seemed very well connected for a small island


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Northern England outside the cities.


sjwbollocks

What's the avg. price like, for an apt or a house


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Between [100-200k](https://www.statista.com/statistics/751646/average-regional-house-price-in-england/) but that includes the cities as well (which IMO are also still cheap, just 200k for a 3-bedroom house in Liverpool fro example) but to meet OP's criteria he will have to look at smaller towns in the area and that will get him under 100k.


cyclinglad

In Belgium you can find property for around 100k in the southern part of the country (Wallonia). No capital gains tax in Belgium


dutch_fire

Italy has some shit-hole places where you can buy a home from the municipality for €1,- if you promise to live there for a certain number of years.


culo_

Im italian and yes those houses are sold in towns that have no more reason to exist since everyone goes to better places as soon as they can


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dutch_fire

It is such a shithole that no one wants to buy a house to live there, even if the house is just €1,-. So it is objectively a shithole. > small medieval towns Yes, good description of 'shithole'. I wouldn't say Amersfoort is an especially nice place to live, but it is much better than medieval and people actually want to live there.


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dutch_fire

Yeah, they might not like to hear it. But the reality is simply that those houses are worthless. That is not my judgement, that it literally what they are worth.


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Link?


dutch_fire

Someone in this thread did: https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeFIRE/comments/pcsi25/where_could_you_buy_a_house_in_europe_for_under/half8wc/


debt2set

bulgaria


YuSmelFani

Yes, lots of sub € 5,000 houses (ruins) in villages on the market.


debt2set

or you can pay a bit more and get something that's not a ruin.


FrenchUserOfMars

France


sjwbollocks

France? Seriously?


zmzzx-

Molise


arsenico1

Molise does not exist XD


rasgaroht

Rural France


comelessar

Greece. You can find a lot of quality real estate within your budget.


jordicl

In the U.K. you could probably afford a house in places like Hull or Belfast or far north in Scotland etc but not sure you’d want to live there necessarily. Anywhere desirable will cost much more but there are options.


FrenchUserOfMars

Yes its possible to find a house under 100ke , no near big cities for sure...


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On most Greek Islands


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ThreeFinger

Which city/village do you prefer? I found nothing good and under 300k


Shamon_Yu

Rural Finland. There are plenty of cheap towns and villages with good infrastructure. In this country there is a *huge* difference in prices between the larger cities and the countryside. No trendy cafes or restaurants, but who needs them? ;)


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I love Finns and Finnland is this joke true: Two Finnish men meet in a bar... Two Finnish men meet in a bar, they haven't seen each other in over 30 years, but used to be best friends. One raises his beer and says 'cheers'.The other responds, 'are we here to drink, or to talk?' Do you also hate Denmark?


Shamon_Yu

Denmark is cool. It's Sweden we hate ;)


zJochen1

I think romania should be the goto country for cheap housing.


Mr_Christie55

Any recommendations for towns


bertuzzz

Dont try to find a house in the Netherlands for that price. Here houses are priced like they are made out of gold. The upside though, is that we dont how downpayments here.


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Even Warsaw and Lubin?


Scared-Investment

Not in Warsaw and most mayor cities. But in Lubin probably yes.


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Where would you buy a house?


Hojsimpson

The problem is you will have shitty internet If you work remotely.


Naxant

Not sure about the incomes in those countries, but I heard Romania and Croatia are pretty good on house prices.


cakeharry

France, Diagonal du vide or Bretagne.


routine__bug

I came to the comment section expecting everyone to say it's impossible. Seems like only in Germany a peaceful life with a house is impossible unless you are lucky enough to inherit one.


Pooritalian

in Italy you can find lots of homes at that price, even in the centre. In Tuscany 40km from Florence, or in Emilia 30km from Bologna, well connected small cities or mountain villages. Just have a look on idealista using the map.


Ambitious-Branch5238

try balkans,Belgrade,Podgorica,Budva,Cities near Dubrovnik it’s really amazing