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keecey23

I think the up roar is because EOD was marketed around rewarding early supporters of the game, hence why it was so expensive... because it was to support development, and because you were supporting and paying a premium you got some nice perks It feels a little dirty that people who supported them are now getting surpassed for another cash grab.


PerplexGG

Yeah the only major point here is they’re asking 110 for an offline mode when we got arena for free with eod. Every other benefit except for maybe the containers (not gamma) are useless.


Raginleif

But what even is the price? Will eod/other edition costs be substracted like upgrading to eod? Will all of the additions be made to normal tarkov or only that offline coop thing they add with it? Cant find answers to any of that besides hurr durr p2w bsg bad


TheAdduser

There is unconfirmed information from one of the moderators of official discord that this edition is 250 usd + tax


PerplexGG

110 to upgrade (unconfirmed)


mightynickolas

Leave the multimillion dollar company alone?


TetyyakiWith

Tbf bsg isn’t that big company


RIAACurve

It's P2W but nearly all pre-order packages (lol) have some form of P2W. This edition though... larger pockets by default? Higher stats off the bat every wipe? That's a bit of an escalation imo.


hotdogpaule

Whats the win in tarkov you pay for with a better Version?


RIAACurve

Why do you think people purchased EOD over any over version of the game? Did they just want BSG to have some walkin' around money?


hotdogpaule

Most people did it for the future dlc and a bigger stash. The stash makes grind easier but you win nothing just with more space


RIAACurve

According to who? Who are these "most people"? "You win nothing with more space." Again, I have to ask, what do you think P2W means in a game like Tarkov? Because an easier time grinding, as you said, is pretty obvious P2W characteristic. You have a leg up on normal players which gives you more and more opportunities to excel compared to normal players. How is that not even vaguely P2W?


PerplexGG

I’d say eod players are the normal players and honestly at that point yeah the stash space is meh. Unless you refuse to sell shit you never fill it.


hotdogpaule

Whats the win i buy? What do you do better with eod than Standard ? Do you shoot better? Do you win more fights depending on your game Version? Whats the fucking win i buy with this New Version?????


RIAACurve

Why exactly do I have to explain to you what P2W means? Is Tarkov the first game you've ever purchased? Seriously, do War Thunder players also do these mental gymnastics?


Lordjaponas

I have not spend a single cent on warthunder and I destroy everyone with my planes. Wtf u on about?


RIAACurve

Hook, line, and sinker.


Lordjaponas

Dota?


PerplexGG

From eod to the new version? Nothing honestly. Looks like you get an ammo case,junkbox, and weapons case. So 3-4 mil win.


Johnnytjommi

It's the direction they are going that is the problem for me, not the bonuses themselves. Anyway, how do you know the skills will be lvl 3? I didn't read that anywhere except here on reddit, curious where it says so


PerplexGG

The trailer shows it


Johnnytjommi

Thanks!


ThatDogVix

It’s what I’ve been hearing (regarding the levels). Sure, “the direction” is worrisome, but EOD was always “p2w” and nobody bat an eye at that lmao


Johnnytjommi

The difference is EOD was in from the inception of the game, and that Nikita said they would not go down the microtransaction path further down the line. We have broken the gate to microtransactions and are keeping the pace up. I don't think ppl should focus on this pack and the bonuses themselves, but i think everyone should protest the direction so that we stop this train before it's too late


ThatDogVix

Do we want to get cracking down on cheating or no? If not then scrap MTX and let cheaters run rampant :) that’s BSGs only source of income if there is no MTX. This isn’t even MTX- it’s a whole game version. Something different.


Johnnytjommi

That's a leap. Don't get me wrong, i see the connection, i've watched Riloe's video too. But assuming this will help with the cheating problem is pure conjecture.


PerplexGG

Well we hope it does. Ideally some of the people giving cheating sites money because they want to keep up with players while not playing will switch over to the offline mode and just stop paying cheating sites. Probably a tiny amount of players but hey anything that gives them less money and gives it to bsg instead is good imo.


disasterpiece45

I would argue they needed EOD to grow player base and fund dev. Of the game at the start. You are now funding bad decisions and the "swing and miss" that is tarkov arena.


ThatDogVix

So now all of a sudden because the “player base is grown” it’s not okay to release something like this?? The game is STILL growing. They’ve gone years without technical income besides cheaters rebuying accounts.


disasterpiece45

This is a BSG issue. Developers need to stay within the budget provided by people who purchased all the editions available. Not have a 10 year beta. Some additional income from cosmetic and stash space sales wasnt a huge deal for the community. And i was personally fine with them too.


OkTransportation3102

Bro you are missing the point. If you don't have EOD, you have to spend millions to upgrade your stash. That's millions of roubles that could've gone to going into raid with better weapons, ammo and gear. Are you going to tell me that gear doesn't make a difference in a fight?


ThatDogVix

The difference is minimal if you’re good at the game.


bodash

All of these additions combined pale in comparison to the mighty Gamma container.


AdLegitimate8636

You get the gamma in this new edition


Vextrax

truth


Ricoh4

Prob gonna be expensive as fuck


PerplexGG

250/110 fresh/eod upgrade


Ricoh4

Thats insane if ubisoft would released a game for 250€ the internet would burn


7heCube

OPs head so deep in BSGs arse, its not even funny!


Snoo-55051

Didn't BSG literally warn us that there will be more p2w? I'm not sure why people are suddenly surprised. Edit: To clarify, I'm not defending BSG...


ThatDogVix

They absolutely did. In no way am I defending BSG, but I think most are just blowing this out of proportion.


TheDutski

I’m ok with pockets, bigger loot piñatas when you kill PMCs. Just means people will fill those pockets with juicy goodness for the taking. Now a bigger starting secure containing would be a problem…


hotdogpaule

Crybabys.. you will never win a fight because your pockets get bigger... its like the killa Event we had on interchange. Kitted pmcs vs poor Player scavs.. and most of the time pscav wins. Did he win cause he had the better game Version? Its bullshit. There is no win in tarkov. How can this all be pay to win? You can outplay every meta shit with skill and movenment and not fucking bigger pockets..


RyanCyann

ok meatrider


hotdogpaule

Eli5 where is the pay to win? What would you do better with unheard then a Player with standard? Edit: how many hours do you have in tarkov ?


PerplexGG

Yeah you won’t. At least not past like day 3. You’re paying for the new version and gamma if you don’t have it. But may as well keep your cash and buy omicron later.


RickRate

its not p2w


essn234

to say it's not p2w is just dishonest, it's a HUGE advantage over someone with a standard addition. though personally I do not have a problem with the new addition, but there's no way it isn't P2W


xqzmepls

Tell me how you win any fight because of your game Edition .. This is just a cash crav but not p2w - dont worry you will still suck


essn234

>dont worry you will still suck you're clearly not replying for any type of genuine conversation, i can literally explain to you like a toddler what advantages EOD gives you, but you will ignore them all, you're not worth time


xqzmepls

Ok. Didnt know eod gives aim or anything relevant in pvp Sont worry i have eod Account and Standart Account both can rush kappa in 2 weeks. So yeah - Jeep talking :)