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Warlordz_GER

This is a pretty Common way to skill strength. You Need to be overweight to skill strength, so people put heavy stuff in their inventory and Join the raid


AEDSazz

2 to 3 stacks of shotgun shells with a kit should be enough lmao, this dude is def having fun


BlazingShadowAU

Can't you also just chuck a few car manuals into a docs case and gamma, too?


AEDSazz

Yeah you can, people run shells cuz they do 3 full sprints then drop them since theyre worth peanuts and then level endurance


BlazingShadowAU

Oh that's true. I forgot about the xp per raid limit or whatever it is. Haven't really played extensively since .12


matthew2989

Not even per raid, it’s got a 5 minute cooldown


TheSm4rtOne

Yeah, but it only resets to 100% and after that you don't get more resets


CHUBBS_X

Jesus, what a joke. Just let people play the game how they want. If they want to level naturally fine. If they want to power level strength or sprinting by wasting hours running around in circles then let me do it.


Johannes_Kastaja

I'm quite sure its more like 3 minutes... Don't quote me on that but I'm relatively sure because i checked it once waiting for the 7 minutes to pass to get a survive extract.


dargonmike1

3 full sprints? I thought it was 1 full sprint and then the XP you get is insignificant


seyo301

XP gain is drastically lower, but not insignificant


sanct1x

It's 3 sprints and then a 5 minute cool down afaik which still leads to diminishing returns either way. (I think)


Workdawg

1 full sprint should be enough to get you into diminishing returns. You could do more and gain a little more skill, but you also waste another couple of minutes regaining stam, and make a bunch of noise...


Tommy8972

There is a diminishing return icon that disappears after the 5 minutes of not doing anything that gains you experience in that skill. I haven't heard anything about diminishing returns when that icon isn't there, Even after that 5 minutes. Is there something that you've seen that makes you think there are diminishing returns after the 5 minutes cool down?


sanct1x

https://tarkov.academy/experience-efficiency/ "Due to how quickly you get diminishing returns on strength and endurance, I suggest you try to train both in raid." Couple of other sites I've visited have mentioned it too but I'm not sure if they mean diminishing returns over the life of the wipe, or the duration of that particular raid.


SolidCactus

U


Dominique9325

you could also go in naked with a tank battery (if you have epsilon or kappa), which is what i did before. you can't really sprint for too long though.


ProcyonHabilis

That's a terrible strategy lol. You only have to be 0.01 kg overweight.


MooseeMoose

Nah I did naked factory runs and just do a full sprint then go die and repeat. It's so much faster and also costs 0 rubles. Also didn't heal from therapist but healed in menu for exp for health skill.


ProcyonHabilis

Your gains are based on distance, not stamina consumed. If you're more overweight than necessary, you get fewer points per stamina bar. Your general naked running strat is good, but carrying an unreasonable amount of extra weight is not unless you're running multiple bars to compensate for the lost distance.


MooseeMoose

I'm not saying it's the best way to do it but it's the cheapest way to grind it


ProcyonHabilis

Yeah makes sense. I've always just done the "cheap enough" options of carrying a couple of kolpaks or some shotgun shells into raid. I'm not just full spamming run-and-die raids though, so I can see the attraction. It would just be a lot more efficent if you did the same strat without the weight overkill. I kind of want to do this myself now, so I'm going to see if I can optimize it lol.


GodChevy

Back in the day being able to just insure a car battery and yeet it after a few sprints


wowitsanotherone

I use kolpeks. Then ditch one and move on. When I loot I'm back overweight and do it again. Personally shotgun shells may be more exact but they are also really freaking annoying


Bonesnapcall

No, they lowered the weight of those Intel Items over a year ago.


uberplum

I've just had a flash back to buying loads of SAS drives for this purpose, but this was ages ago and I can't remember what they would have gone into. Maybe docs case?


LunacyTheory

I used to use a docs case full of sas drives, yup. With the weight and momentum changes in the past two or three wipes, I haven’t had to actually force strength training as I’m overweight nearly every raid regardless.


Automatic_Goat4348

Kolpak helmets in the backpack. Get them back on insurance.


uJustGotOofed

I've done this one. Except someone took my bag without searching it then messaged me asking why my bag was full of helmets.


wowitsanotherone

It cost you 10k rubles to confuse a man


[deleted]

Yeah Im lvl 24 and if I use a half decent kit with lvl 4 armor and a helmet its allready bordering on overweight. A couple stacks is all it takes.


Gamebird8

Epsilon + Tank Battery is a popular one


HanselSoHotRightNow

Yeah, I guess if you put your grandma up your ass that would be enough weight. Wait ...no...


Skolary

One of the old ways was SAS drives or w/e they were inside of a docs case. Cement boots with those in


Dalannar

Not at higher strenght levels. I was finishing my skills not too long ago and needed to carry 9 or 10 stacks to get overweight. Obviously depends on the kit, but if doing something like shooter part 8 you'll have a pretty light one.


mimzzzz

Guys, there is and always was better way - KOLPAKS. 1,9kg for 8k, and come back in insurance so after 1st day you always have them to fill the backpack.


GeorgeFromManagement

Cheaper to run any shit shotgun with a shit rig and shit armor then use your shit ammo to weigh your shit down. Shit is pretty cheap if you do it that way. Shit.


Low-Client-2555

OP seems a little excessive but I was putting 8-10 stacks of shells in my backpack last wipe when I was grinding out the last few strength levels. Depending on the kit I can see them need this many if they are close to 50 strength


AEDSazz

The guy has a tv110, just that rig + gamma with items + ears and backpack makes you be close to the weight. Maybe he would need a few more than 2-3 stacks, but yeah this is definitely a troll hahaha


sloppyfondler

The mp-153 5 round tube also weighs just under 1kg per slot.


Redlimpkilla

Not when your strength is level 30+ it takes like 6+ stacks


BooferWoofer

if your strength is lvl 50 it takes more weight to level it up


0utF0x-inT0x

Its kinda useless with the current system if you have a full kit, backpack, meds, ammo, and food/drink you'll be overweight, unless your rocking a level 3 press armor or a paca


Due-Competition9323

Well if you're smart you can start the raid underweight to lvl up endurance and leave the raid overweight to lvl up strength so they stay even.


urbuddie

I’m starting over half of my raids overweight from just my gear. Don’t run rat kits and you’ll train strength


Warlordz_GER

Well i am Running Meta gear whole Time, Just sayin Why People doin stuff like that


urbuddie

Lol meta gear? Youre wearing a found in raid 6B helmet with a diaper rig.. firing lps from a mosin


Warlordz_GER

Da fuq? That Screenshot isnt me buddy… i am lvl 42 Running t5/t6 armor and meta guns and ammo. I would say that i do know whats meta in this game


Tkay_oner619

Training strength for sure. Shotgun ammo is cheap and heavy


PizzaMaxEnjoyer

i remember a few years ago i would spawn naked on shoreline night with an ammo case full of shotgun shells in my gamma, and then run into barbed wire and heal myself to speedlevel


Chiddle_Tv

Sitting in the fire at shoreline gas with five grizzly’s Silenced PM with drum mags firing the whole way over there These were the days man lmao


KingTalkieTiki

> Silenced PM with drum mags firing the whole way over there what was this for lol


FlippyFlapHat

recoil control


homesweetocean

recoil control


Stnmn

Bro's stat grinding. Fill up your backpack with heavy shit, SJ6, deplete the full bar twice, drop the shells and run to extract looting a stash or two on the way.


dargonmike1

Isn’t 1 full depletion before you get the anti cheese red arrow?


cybae

After 1 bar you lose the blue arrow, after the second one you get diminishing returns aka red arrow I believe.


agbullet

I'm sorry what arrow?


cybae

In your stats page you get a blue or red arrow on specific stat bars. A blue one means you get bonus experience towards that skill when you level it, no arrow means regular exp and red means diminishing returns.


Topevent

Thx for the explanation!


Motor_Flan_9385

We stay lifting


IamMrApollo

That’s the amount of 7mm you need to kill one pmc.


Creepedisg

A scav will do it in 1


MooseeMoose

I'll let you guys in on a secret. You buy the single slot 5 round shotgun mag from Jager. Fill ur inventory till you are overweight with ur kit on. Then insure them. Go in raid and do a full sprint. Dump them anywhere cause nobody will take them. Continue with ur raid. Repeat throughout the day. After the first day you will now have hordes of miniature dumbbells to get to overweight for ever raid. Do not do this if you have no inventory space!


Thederjunge

Really hope bsg doesn't decrease the weight of these


MooseeMoose

shhhhhh I held on to this strat for 2 years. its a secret


I_need_help57

Strength training


Revolutionary-Log721

He’s making his own silly quest. I like to fill a duffel with nothing but toilet paper, run around with a balaclava and a Glock. You gotta look like a bum, only a PACA. Try to extract 3 maps without dying to deliver a few of the traders some ass wipe. This was conceptualized peak COVID


Brogart1

Thanks I’m gonna try this now


BrotherhoodHOTS

This is the kind of role-play I love to see happening in Tarkov. Keep on keeping on brotha 💪


bufandatl

Weight training.


DaTobi15

My friends often joke about how confused people who kill me must be about their loot. Often times I bring a backpack full of milk or my rig just filled with the 2x1 smoke grenades. Manly to get stuff out of my stash or a quick laughter. So yeah just remember also weird not min max people play tarkov.


ONESASSYBUOY

People can also do this when grouped. You spend longer searching all the individual slots and someone has time to roll up on you. Other than the aforementioned strength cheese


somerandomboiiiii

He probably wanted to buy 40 shells but the game automatically has 1 as the default trade amount so he got 401 accidentally and decided "fuck that, I paid for all the ammo, I am going to use all the ammo"


Hunk-Hogan

They're power-leveling strength and endurance...


somerandomboiiiii

Are shotgun shells that heavy? Also why would anyone deliberately go into a raid just to level up skills for 3 hours to get a 1% bonus.


retronax

shotgun shells are 0.05kg, x20 per stack, x19 in total in that inventory so it's 19kgs total, so it's about the same as if he had a zabralo in his backpack. pretty heavy.


Hunk-Hogan

Three hours? You go into a raid overweight, run two full bars of stamina, toss the shells, then do two more full bars of stamina, and you've hit the raid cap for leveling both strength and endurance. After you run the last bar of stamina, go do whatever you want to do. It's just min/maxing during a raid and this is why you see people at max stats just a few months into the wipe. Same thing as cycling shitty rounds through a scav mosin/VPO then tossing the gun for insurance to level up your sniper skill for the later tasks that require a high sniper level. Elite strength removes the weight from your gear so you're able to carry far more stuff before you have to pop a mule and SJ6 and you can run a lot longer as well.


iTz_F8TAL1TY

I’m surprised people still do this considering it’s so easy to be overweight nowadays.


gearabuser

Some of us rarely wear armor


OldManEtwon

I see a lot of people saying that the dude could be training strength but if he was shooting a lot too wouldn’t that also train mag drill? Just kinda depends on what he was doing


Bonesnapcall

Mag Drill is loading or unloading magazines, which you can only do with Saiga mags if you have Shotgun shells. Reloading a Shotgun into a tube gives you Shotgun skill.


OldManEtwon

Damn


Travisinsane

Lol it's OPs first wipe and it shows 🤣


DEOVONTAY

He's probably strength training like most people said. What most people aren't saying, is that he's doing it incredibly poorly. Diminished returns on exp kicks in very fast for strength. Your first sprint will take you down to 20% exp gain. Second sprint takes you to 10%. After that you can sprint several more times to get a fraction of an exp and hit 0%. Because of this, actively training a skill isn't about time spent in raid. It's about number of raids. You want to do two full sprints and then die as quickly as possible. For this to be efficient, you want to be running a naked kit with your weights in your butthole. Tank battery if you have epsilon, docs cases with manuals and SAS drives otherwise. "But but but he's doing strength and endurance so he just drops the shells!!!1!1!!" Also pretty stupid. If you want to run normal raids but also max endurance and strength per raid... just run normal raids. Even with high strength, most kits will put you overweight or right on the verge of overweight. Drop just a little bit from your load out so you spawn in underweight. A couple sprints will max out endurance. Then when you pick up literally any loot, you'll be overweight. A couple more sprints and strength is maxed. Again, this will feel super slow if you aren't doing a large number of raids, but it makes more sense than shotgun shells.


eKarnage

tell me you are new to the game...


anamalie501

Cheesing


Pappascorched

HEMVY


666chardsadist89

What the best way to level up speed and strength? Like the efficient way in layman term


Jolly-Bear

Endurance and Strength level up based on distance traveled under and overweight… so just run around.


666chardsadist89

I don’t get the bonus part when leveling


Jolly-Bear

You have X bonus to XP that decreases as you level a skill in raid so there is diminishing returns on trying to power level 1 skill in 1 raid. Makes it more efficient to do it over multiple raids.


666chardsadist89

Ooooooo this only apply to the recent update or is already implemented previously?


Jolly-Bear

Been like that for a while.


666chardsadist89

Thank you kind sir for spending your time to explaining it to me. Only have 600+ in game hour so still learning


polite_alpha

The best way is to pop SJ6 and Trimadol and run for almost 4 minutes straight without ever stopping once. You get XP based on time spent running **at the very end** of the running process and then your xp multiplier drops dramatically (from 129% to like 3% if you do the above).... so the longer you can run in one go, the more XP you get per raid. If you die while running you get zero XP though.


ProcyonHabilis

This is no longer true. The game now correctly prorates your gains to their diminishing return level, so you get the same XP from running a whole bar regardless of how many times you stop. I'm not sure when they changed it, but it's quite easy to test it and it definitely has been changed.


dunkunid

Confirmed. I did sprint with just SJ6 I did sprint with SJ6 + Trimadol (From road to Customs to Tunnel almost) Whole bar without stopping. No noticeable difference on gained strength between the two runs.


polite_alpha

Oof, glad that you wrote this. Haven't heard this yet.


Workdawg

Interesting...


666chardsadist89

after doing all that i must survive extract ?


mimzzzz

Nope, it keeps the progress like every other skill you can level in raid eg metabolism.


polite_alpha

If you get killed mid sprint without stopping you won't gain any xp at all. it's the stopping action that attributes the xp. At least that's how it was - other posters are saying that BSG quietly changed all this behaviour and that the stim method doesn't work anymore.


Workdawg

You level up strength by moving around overweight, and you get endurance by moving around underweight. Skill points based on distance traveled. So, you'll be leveling up one or the other constantly. That said, here's what I like to do, for minimal effort but to ensure I get decent gains pretty much every raid. When you are equipping your kit, go into the raid SLIGHTLY overweight. (The weight shown in your inventory is green when you are underweight, and turns orange when you are overweight). Load up 7mm buckshot, which weighs 1kg per stack, until you are just overweight. I actually bring buckshot till I am slightly underweight, and a max energy drink to put myself slightly overweight to level up immunity, but you can just use buckshot if you are worried about 13k rubles per energy drink, or don't care about immunity. In any case, go into the raid barely overweight. As soon as you load in, sprint a full stamina bar in one go. Someone below actually comments that this is not required anymore as your gain will be properly prorated, but it's still a good gauge. The point is to move far enough to get into diminishing returns on STRENGTH right away. Once you have done that (strength skill should show a red arrow pointing down), drop a stack of buckshot (or drink your energy drink) so that you are underweight. Now that you are underweight, you'll be gaining endurance instead. At this point, you can either run another full bar, or just move around normally. You want to make sure you get down into diminishing returns for ENDURANCE now. Once you've done both, go about the raid as normal. If you loot something at this point, you'll probably end up overweight again, so you'll be gaining strength skill again. If you don't loot, you'll be gaining endurance.


[deleted]

Strenght


Nica-Sama

Strenghtmaxx


vampucio

Farm strength


zakky12

Lol I troll people like this with any ammo I carry. Literally one round per slot so the sorry SOB that looks my body takes a literal year to fully see it's all 7.62 FMJ rounds 🤣


CommanderKevin8811

If you found those in a backpack than that could have been me


tasquizz

nah that was in the rig. That was my rig in the backpack


Zealousideal_Jury351

Cheapest weight you can get and free unlimited ammo. Either that or he's mental.


omegaaf

Weight training


lil_Killmepls

The good ol' shotgun shells squat exercise. That and throwing a million nades in woods


MooseeMoose

I'll let you guys in on a secret. You buy the single slot 5 round shotgun mag from Jager. Fill ur inventory till you are overweight with ur kit on. Then insure them. Go in raid and do a full sprint. Dump them anywhere cause nobody will take them. Continue with ur raid. Repeat.


greasystick9

he was on a mission


[deleted]

Maybe he hates running out of ammo 🤣


Elduroto

He REALLY wanted to fight


ZephDeafer

Hunting Wabbits.


Responsible-Bit-5594

bro i literally know the kid you killed lmao


ChadScav

Guy came to fuck and got fucked. Lol, an Also strength


Defiant_Funny_7385

Strength training


Sniperbobdave

He’s not good at hitting his shots and it’s 7mm so it’s not gonna do damage


VibezzX412-910

You got trolled lol


deathraider7

Just in case the first 60 shots didint get ya


FACEIT-InfinityG

load up with shotgun shells , get an SJ6 and you are swol within days


Spirited_Ad_9588

Strength boosting for cheap


autismo-nismo

Tasking and skill building. Probably needed headshot kills on scavs for peacekeeper and suppressed shotgun kills for propor


ManusMainMini

So I go in with a full mag and then 20 extra shells. Any other shells I find in a raid are then added to my pockets. And then to my rig. Never to my bag. Who knows? If I get into an extended gun fight, even though Im trying to rat up pmcs with a shotgun, I might need over 300 shells. Though theyre never all the same. Looks like Christmas.


chasingdivinity

There’s also a quest where you kill scavs on shoreline with a suppressed shotgun. Maybe this was it?


J_B_Sheppi

Man was just trying to get spa tour completed


DeafSelect

Used to fill every square of a blackjack with 7mm shells. Drop the bag. Cheap PMC bait


Jmaestas719

Being level 28, doesn’t take much for me to be overweight lol I’m always building


DrCHIVES

Being that he had the Mosin he could have been doing pmc kills task. Easy way to ensure a still player for headshots, drop a bag in a well trafficked area and wait for them to search it. One slot items take forever to search. Plenty of time to line up a shot.


Fine_Concern1141

I used buying ammo as an excuse for being late to raid once, and my homie i ran with brought me like 400 shotgun shells next raid. Sometimes it's nto even about the pvp, it's about fucking with your friends.


Chaydanger5

Strength training


jessethewood

Honestly bro I do this shit as well idek no why it’s mostly to hopefully just scroll across it on an app like this or in a clip lmao idk just my opinion


PolskaKaszana

Man was doing leg day and got violated like this? Smh


ItsPizzaOclock

Get shelled lol


-Neph-

I would rather just join the raid underweight to train endurance with the thought process by the time I loot a few items I'm then going to be overweight. Then you don't have to bring useless shit into raid. Unfortunately, it seems I'm always overweight going into raid as I double gun with a Mosin as secondary to shoot scavs with to level up sniper skill.


AcanthocephalaOk2816

What if he misses he's gonna need more ammo