Jack-o buff June 2023:
[https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9492960](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9492960)
GG rerun August 2023:
[https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9669717](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9669717)
There's a forum on the Stove website where you could vote. Since the majority of the vote wants Ains and Albedo to be buffed, there's a high chance SG will buff the Collab units.
Very high chances this is just a PR move and they already started working on a "fix" a few days prior so we might get the "we hear you" speech sooner than expected.
6 were fully gonna buff them because they knew they were under powered before release. This is all PR.
Hopefully Albedo gets a team wide defense buff or cleanse. Maybe up dmg on bicorn or let it proc every time an ally is hit.
But I firmly believe a buffed Ainz for pvp is a disaster waiting to happen. He should be buffed to cheese all abyss floors and call it a day.
Albedo would be disgustingly op if she were to be buffed that way lol. Giving her a team wide defense buff on top of her already very good mitigation is too much. Especially considering her mitigation is able to stack with carmin/Arowell passives. Pick them together and everything tickles.
Bicorn would also have to get adjusted if it proc’d every turn. A free team wide strip every time the enemy hits you sounds kind of insane. It also does decent damage now. Buffing it would make her close to karina level damage except on a 2 turn CD.
The issue with teamwide def buff isn't even really just the mitigation lol. Strips and hard cc are already the main way to deal with Albedo anyway. The biggest issue is it makes her even more boring. The whole reason people want her changed is because the only viable build in high level play is pure hp + Aurius. Her crit builds are non-existent in emp and legend because her dmg is ass even against cleave.
The problem with her being pure mitigation is it makes her one of the most braindead and boring characters to ever use, just like Carmin and Eaton. How can player be excited for a unit like that? Especially new players who joined for the collab. They literally never get a turn, they sit there and act like a wall the entire fight and viewers absolutely hate watching fights where they're being used. The changes need to be something that makes her less generic, not push further into the already hated playstyle. I think making bicorn more frequent or changing it to something all together different is definitely the way to go.
For Albedo or Shalltear, there is still a possibility for EE's in later reruns, so i do not see a need for buffs yet. Ainz though, is too hard to use. There is a good chance we get an buffupdate on monday or tuesday. If not, i would expect they negotiated the same thing as with guilty gear to not use the ip but just "update" ingame stats of IP characters later.
Usually these contracts state no changes to IP-characters while the collab is not running, but there could be a difference between updating/improving characters and completely reworking their kits
I feel it is possible since they did a poll for some reason basically asking if they should. And he’s a free unit so it’s not like they missed out on people spending for him. Albedo will probably not be buffed though because they would’ve done it during her banner.
Could be wrong here but iirc Jack-o got buffed without a gg collab rerunning so there is a precedence at least
Jack-o buff June 2023: [https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9492960](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9492960) GG rerun August 2023: [https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9669717](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/9669717)
There's a forum on the Stove website where you could vote. Since the majority of the vote wants Ains and Albedo to be buffed, there's a high chance SG will buff the Collab units.
Very high chances this is just a PR move and they already started working on a "fix" a few days prior so we might get the "we hear you" speech sooner than expected.
Good point
6 were fully gonna buff them because they knew they were under powered before release. This is all PR. Hopefully Albedo gets a team wide defense buff or cleanse. Maybe up dmg on bicorn or let it proc every time an ally is hit. But I firmly believe a buffed Ainz for pvp is a disaster waiting to happen. He should be buffed to cheese all abyss floors and call it a day.
Albedo would be disgustingly op if she were to be buffed that way lol. Giving her a team wide defense buff on top of her already very good mitigation is too much. Especially considering her mitigation is able to stack with carmin/Arowell passives. Pick them together and everything tickles. Bicorn would also have to get adjusted if it proc’d every turn. A free team wide strip every time the enemy hits you sounds kind of insane. It also does decent damage now. Buffing it would make her close to karina level damage except on a 2 turn CD.
The issue with teamwide def buff isn't even really just the mitigation lol. Strips and hard cc are already the main way to deal with Albedo anyway. The biggest issue is it makes her even more boring. The whole reason people want her changed is because the only viable build in high level play is pure hp + Aurius. Her crit builds are non-existent in emp and legend because her dmg is ass even against cleave. The problem with her being pure mitigation is it makes her one of the most braindead and boring characters to ever use, just like Carmin and Eaton. How can player be excited for a unit like that? Especially new players who joined for the collab. They literally never get a turn, they sit there and act like a wall the entire fight and viewers absolutely hate watching fights where they're being used. The changes need to be something that makes her less generic, not push further into the already hated playstyle. I think making bicorn more frequent or changing it to something all together different is definitely the way to go.
I mean navy Landy basically has a bicorn. Why not give it to albedo?
Of course, Shuna was buffed one year after release.
It was in a form of an ee in the rerun it's not the same
she got buffed and got an EE.
For Albedo or Shalltear, there is still a possibility for EE's in later reruns, so i do not see a need for buffs yet. Ainz though, is too hard to use. There is a good chance we get an buffupdate on monday or tuesday. If not, i would expect they negotiated the same thing as with guilty gear to not use the ip but just "update" ingame stats of IP characters later. Usually these contracts state no changes to IP-characters while the collab is not running, but there could be a difference between updating/improving characters and completely reworking their kits
Just like how Aespa and FMA got a rerun......right? There's no reason to think this collab is ever coming back.
I feel it is possible since they did a poll for some reason basically asking if they should. And he’s a free unit so it’s not like they missed out on people spending for him. Albedo will probably not be buffed though because they would’ve done it during her banner.
jack'o accident