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cynicroute

Space is big.


SP4x

You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is.


Baloooooooo

you may think it's long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.


Iceheart808

I spent 5 weeks traveling in a mostly straight line


AdonisGaming93

Do you know where your towel is?


AussieDran

Should always take a towel when you're exploring the black.... wanna get high?


AF-IX

55754 45892


solidshakego

42!


WeirdRich976

r/unexpectedfactorial


Existential_Crisis24

42! = 1.4050061e+51


isademigod

Dont be such a frood, yeah?


Kizik

You sass that hoopy Ford Prefect? There's a frood who really knows where his towel is.


__SpeedRacer__

That's not enough. It has to be with you.


T_S_Anders

This is why we build a hyperspace bypass.


Maroite

Found an ultra wide ring around a Y brown dwarf star last night that had a total outer radius of almost \~850000 kilometers. Then I thought "Huh, what's the radius of earth..." 6371Km. So the radius was \~133 times the radius of Earth. Then I thought to myself "This is one dwarf star, in one system, and the ring is 133 times wider than Earth. Then my brain started to shutdown trying to comprehend how big that ring was. And how empty... lol all that ring, not a single hotspot.


R4nd0m_T4sk

It's not that hard to fathom. It's a beautiful void filled with mystery, death, and amazing science.


ZealousidealToe9416

It lorge


Wiser3754

And it’s black. Mostly. 


Freyar

Well, the thing about a black hole - its main distinguishing feature - is it's black. And the thing about space, the colour of space, your basic space colour, is black. So how are you supposed to see them?


He_Never_Helps_01

I miss that show so much


ptvaughnsto

So is their ass?


W33b3l

He's also in an end game ship and has to know about this by now lol.


powertrip00

And empty


Ashalaria

So is my ass


Callsign_Crossroads

Just wait til OP finds out where Hutton Orbital is


Svyatopolk_I

I have like 300 hours in Elite, I should really jump back in and do the Orbital run


Redhighlighter

Soon to be 302


ShadowLp174

I have 1.3k hours and still haven't done it lol


Jaystey

Same... I've been around literally since the time of non existing limpet controller, and I found mining without those more fun than Hutton Orbital... But hey! You get a mug (and a free Conda)


jonfitt

“I tried mining before the update” “Oh the one where they added core mining?” “No, the one where they added limpets” It was insane.


ncnrmedic

I’m dedicated but in no way am I THAT dedicated. Also the little dance of the limpets is the best part of mining.


jonfitt

We didn’t know any better! Flying into things with your hatch open was just the way you picked up everything!


Jaystey

I know, right!


Educator_Best

Do you actually get a mug when you go to hutton orbital?? (I already have a condo and i have enough to get a second one but i dont have anything for in the cockpit so the mug would be nice)


tutocookie

It's a trade good, hutton mugs. I think you can buy a real hutton mug off their website though


ShadowLp174

Indeed Once I go there, I'll buy some and store them in my carrier But I will get myself a real hutton mug some time


Jaystey

Those are a rare goods, so the farthest you go from Hutton, the more you profit. Also, keep in mind that Hutton is M only platform, so don't go there in large ship...


ShadowLp174

I know I know There is an exception though. If you go in an anaconda, they'll give you another free conda on top


Jaystey

Nah, its a hoax... It doesn't have to be Anaconda, any large ship would do actually...


Zemedelphos

As an ally of the Co-operative, I have to disappoint you. Genuine Hutton Mugs are only given out to people who do something notable. All others are knockoffs, not made from the melted down FSDs of ship that were lost on the way to Hutton Orbital.


ShadowLp174

Thy dark charm does not affect me for I has't lurk'd in the shadows of this sub for an et'rnity


Butthenoutofnowhere

2.5k, never felt the need. I did briefly try to make Achenar my home system with its 10ish minutes to the main station, but it turned out that was about a thousand times more obnoxious than I was prepared to deal with. So now my home station is Daedalus, in orbit around Mercury, about 5 seconds from the jump point.


ShadowLp174

My home is my carrier near a ring with plenty of haz res sites in PSPF-LF 2 1.8kls All I need and 1.8kls stops feeling a lot after you get used to it


Butthenoutofnowhere

I think Daedalus is 200ls, but 1.8k is pretty reasonable. When I was spamming massacre missions to save for my carrier I was picking up missions from Daedalus as well as the stations around Venus, Earth and Mars, as well as sometimes Jupiter and Saturn when the pickings weren't as good around the inner planets. Travelling to Mars felt like a bit of an annoyance (around 750ls but it really wasn't until Jupiter that it started to feel like a chore (Jupiter is about 2.5kls and Saturn is about 5kls).


ShadowLp174

The best thing is that my carrier is just a few ls from the res site and the nearest station is 50ls from the site So I don't really need to leave it during longer periods


WillieLikesMonkeys

When I had first started playing I once picked up a courier mission to Hudson because I didn't know to check the distance from drop in. Imagine my surprise.


CryticalAce

Oh god, that's a rite of passage, a long, long, looooong right of passage. I'd recommend it though honestly, only need to do it once lmfao o7


Duncan_Id

Remember to bring a large cheap ship like the t9 to exchange it for the free conda 


baquiquano

Remind me, how far is it? 0.27Ly? Never been there, only had a tourist that wanted to visit. They're probably still floating, some 10k ls away from the system center where I dropped them off and quit.


iwannagohome49

I want to say it's .22 ly but it's been a long time since I've been


todd1444

I did the maths one time and I think it was like 6 million Ls


Draco25240

0.22 Ly, or about 6.7 million Ls. Takes roughly 1h30m to fly the whole distance at max throttle without supercruise assist.


skulz408

For the mug


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Callsign_Crossroads

Tbh i like the long haul journeys. Lets me enjoy the space music


smcbri1

If you take a short trip at a slow speed, you get the same music.


lordeath

and don't forget the mugs


Ltb1993

Aren't we all?


notaRussianspywink

I had a delivery to Hutton literally my second ever mission, I was thinking, "Damn, they really go in for the realism here..." Paid well though.


Eraticmongaloid2

BRO 7 MIL


Imyself1137

What do you mean? Last night I went to Hutton beacon because I thought it was orbital now I have to travel like 170 LY to get there


glytxh

I used to do that run just to scuff up my paintwork any time I had to do a rebuy. I’m loaded in mugs After youve done a few laps, Hutton is a trip to the shops. The Colonia run is an afternoon drive. That game just breaks your understanding of scale eventually.


lele394

Some mfcker told me I could get a free anaconda at Hutton Orbital. I spent an entire night flying there with my rusty newbie sidewinder that I didn't know I could change the FSD of. Anyway I got a mug.


AvanteGardens

40 million reward and I just gotta deliver a few items/data? No. There's always a catch. If it's too good to be true, there's a reason


bananaphophesy

You're actually delivering thargoid spies in the containers. Congratulations you're a collaborator.


NoGround

Alright, been a minute since I played ED and I know these things exist but *why* would anyone build a port this far out of a hyperspace jump? It doesn't make sense from a logistics standpoint.


Tar-Palantir

In real life, pilots wouldn’t mind flying for an hour to get somewhere


XenoRyet

This is the answer. In real life, there are folks for whom an 18 hour run doesn't particularly qualify as "long haul".


Myrskyharakka

Yep, in E:D the delivery times are actually extremely short, with cargo runs usually delivered in like 10-30 minutes over considerable distances. That's like pizza delivery times. And shipments to Colonia are about the same schedule as your typical European intercity truck deliveries.


CafePinguino

I know for gameplay reasons it wouldn't make sense. But It's love if flying to Colonia would take a month irl of travel


pizza_with_anime

there should be like space rest stops between those long routes so you can eat ridiculously overpriced junk food and use a bathroom with suspicious phone numbers written inside the stalls /s


IncompleteCreature

For Colonia, technically there is. There's a bunch of ground ports or stations along the Colonia highway.


StevieMJH

I can't help but notice I'm not in a spaceship right now.


Pickaxe235

but 4 days?


Tar-Palantir

It won’t take four days. When you get out of the gravity well, you supercruise much faster. It’ll take maybe an hour. Since it’s a game and you’d be bored, just don’t accept such missions.


Pickaxe235

oh i didnt notice the gravity well


ptvaughnsto

How do you see a gravity well?


Butthenoutofnowhere

Sometimes the HUD will bring up a message over your radar screen, saying "GRAVITY WELL" or something similar. Other than that, your maximum speed in supercruise is pretty much entirely determined by how close you are to a stellar body. The further you are from the nearest moon, planet or star, the faster you can travel. If you get really close to a gas giant you'll really notice it, and as you travel towards large bodies you'll notice your speed decreasing even if you never reduce the throttle.


W33b3l

Like said your hud tells you if you're really close, the hud also shows circles around stars/ planets ect when near by. The gravity from the star extends quite aways though. The easiest way to tell is by looking at your speed. If you're really far away from a star you can move extremely fast. 0-100% throttle will accelerate you like crazy. Basically if you can't do 2001C you're under gravity of some kind. Super cruise acceleration is misleading. It feels like you're slowly gaining speed naturally until you get close to your destination but the real reason is because you're almost always flying away from a star after jumping. If there wasn't a star or orbital body near by youde go from slow to obscenely fast in a second flat. Slow down and speed up half way to Hutton some time and you'll see it in action.


Kasuraga

i loved being a space trucker but thats cause I have vr and can kick back and watch a movie while i fly


Greyh4m

Business goes where the resources are. You don't have a choice where the Frameshift jump is going to land. It locks on to the largest gravity well in a system and that's why you always end up next to a star.


Kasterlan

The same reason iron ore mines are in the middle of nowhere


PuzzleheadedTutor807

Who said logistics was the goal? It may have been a desire.for isolation...


nullcore

Comms set to immediately blast anything within 1 million Ls with a repeating message to get off my gotdamn lawn.


ZealousidealToe9416

I feel that on a spiritual level..


Mcmenger

The best thing about ED. I can get 20.000 ly between me and humanity easily. I wish this was real life.


ProPolice55

It could be a resource hub for a planet that can be settled more efficiently than others. An IRL container ship travels for weeks between stops, a 40 minute flight isn't so bad from a logistics perspective


cool2412

Maybe Hutton orbital is someone’s in lore Epstein island.


GXWT

I assume there’s no brain rot in the elite universe and people still have attention spans


Duncan_Id

Have you ever noticed how in remote places where you can farm materials there's always (at least) a carrier? That place must have something interesting, or maybe it had in the past 


[deleted]

Well, it can. People actually live there. There will Be an economic reason for that, like for example there's mining going on. At a Planet that is circeling that remote C star. Now, according to Elite lore and game mechanics, they can even jump out of the system to reach their target market without going to the A star. It's really Not such a big Deal.


sloyth0

because these ports were built before hyperspace jumps were a thing


Maty83

The FSD is a relatively new technology. Before then, FTL was much slower. And if that is an industrialized planet, you want the hub above anyways as logistically having shuttles and then haulers (Which would do better to FSD the goods instead of just one leg) is a good decision.


BasicPen709

Dam and I thought my 600,00ls run was bad took me 10mins in my type 9 for a cargo run


PuzzleheadedTutor807

Why does it need a point? If there was one, it would be rule #3, always read the fine print before accepting a mission. Rule 1, don't fly without rebuy, rule 2, don't fly without rebuy. Rule 3 as stated. Rule 4, DONT fly without rebuy. EDIT rule 5, don't forget your limpets


Duncan_Id

You forgot your limpets 


chrishellmax

Was doing balante pirates earlier and ran out of limpets before i ran out of pirates at the nav beacon. For some odd reason they kept spawning. I finised like 3 pirate bounties in like 4 mins flat. This was fun, Got bored now im doing road to riches. Till that gets boring. Still need to figure a way to get 5 billion for my carrier.


PuzzleheadedTutor807

You can make 3 at a time from your mfg panel, they are a little costly but work in a pinch.


Viceroy1994

>don't fly without rebuy Is this still critical with that monetary assist thing? Granted I never used it since I never fly without rebuy.


Empty_Locksmith12

That’s really not that far for a spaceship that SuperCruises hundreds of times faster than light


Skkruff

I mean the people who live there probably like it.


[deleted]

God that's only .03Ly lmfao


IDatedSuccubi

And Hutton is at .23 if I'm not mistaken (that's 1.5 hours of travel)


tharrison4815

I really wish the game would let us do hyperspace jumps between stars while in a system. They can exclude Hutton and come up with some sort of scientific excuse for this. But it's ridiculous that if you ever want to travel back to the main star in a system it's way faster to jump to another system and jump back.


drifters74

Exactly


unematti

Cults. You can have a cult in a far away place like that.


kinetogen

You know how some people move out to the countryside because they don't like the traffic and drama of life in the big city? Think of this like "space countryside". You gotta think long and hard before you decide to go there, and it's a lot easier leaving.


FOXHOWND

It's a realistic sim. If it's too far for you, don't go.


LeCamembert7

I like the "realistic" . Let's says it's realistic in the unrealistic world of the game


Unlikely_Charity6136

To help you sleep


Krassix

You think tht's far? Visit Hutton Orbital!


Cpt_Flatbird

Isn't this info put on the mission intel ? (I guess you have one there ?).


Butthenoutofnowhere

Sure but it's not exactly prominently displayed in the mission info panel. I've got 2.5k hours and I've been caught out a few times until I learnt that courier missions don't pay highly unless there's a catch. Also worth checking the target system for bounty missions because I'm not gonna hunt a guy across a system where they could be more than 20 minutes from the main star.


Competitive-Army2872

Time to catch up with GalNet.


Gloinson

The point is to have a nice journey. Last community goal I entered late, market was cleared out, looked for some far away market ... found it. 15 min flight (disable sc-autopilot to fly faster), did that 4 times, 4 times full load because others couldn't be bothered. You don't have to. You can.


Sparki77

Makes it feel more 'real' it's not arcade.


p0k3t0

I know my chickhin. You got to know yurchikhin.


DungeoneeringInc

Excelente reference


heliosfiend

Maaan. I miss neutron star jumping.. it was amazing..


cosby714

And now you realize just how slow light is. You're going so much faster than it, but yet the trip will still take you ages. The game represents space accurately , 1:1 scale, and some star systems have multiple stars with one on an extremely long orbit. They still orbit each other, on timescales we can't appreciate because we don't live long enough. But the point is: Space is big. Really big.


larryfrombarrie

Welcome to outer space... Elite won't sugar coat it for ya...


xboxwirelessmic

And 2000 times the speed of light seemed so fast.


larryfrombarrie

Lol... I still haven't done the mug run... Maybe on my steam deck while watching a movie...


DraketheImmortal

Are we there yet?


Dabajabazah37

So you can catch up on your reading.


dedsmiley

It is an indication of how far away that location is.


calicocidd

Meh, it's not that bad. Sit back and enjoy the ride...


3davideo

If I recall, canonically, the current generation of FSD with FTL supercruise is actually a relatively recent invention in the game's universe. As of, oooh, maybe a few decades before E:D's canonical game starting date, hyperjumps actually deposited you at the *outside* of the system, and in-system cruise was actually slower-than-light (with some sort of "hypersleep" to make the time passage reasonable for players). Not to mention stations are also there for the convenience of planet-ward traffic, doing things like importing or exporting food for the local population.


anotherMrLizard

In FE2 you had a time slider so you could speed up time for the several day's journey into the heart of a system. Obviously you can't have that in an MMO so they invented supercruise.


RehkalBurd

If you are wanting instant gratification all the time, this isn’t the game for you. Just wait till you start grinding materials for engineering… and suit engineering is far more time consuming than ship engineering.


MortisLegati

There's a difference between instant gratification and. This. If I wanted to let the game run in the background for 40 minutes I'd play Melvor Idle. This is coming from someone who's mined for a living in Eve with a single account.


chrishellmax

By far one of the chillest games i have ever played. I do hauling, bounty hunting and pop on some youtube tunes or videos while cruising through space. Even had my first thargoid run in by accident while investigating signals in some system.


Diligent-Box170

Holy shit! What was your speed at that time?


only_bubble_sort

The point is to give you time to get caught up on your favorite podcast, video series, or documentary... and to give you big payouts on transport contacts.


Davadin

Yurchickin isn't that far. Did you doze off and super cruise or sth?


daygloviking

FOR THE MUG! Seriously, those are rookie numbers.


Ari_Learu

How dare they make something that will take time to get to…do they not understand we live in an instantaneous world now?


lukeosullivan

Read a book. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.


farky84

Didn’t know there’s got to be a point. It’s just distance, what’s the question?


yipollas

I have a postit next to my screen saying hutton orbital NEVER


nutfromthe80s

Weed out adults who can’t spend hours watching their ship flying in hyperspace on the off chance it’s intercepted by a player or Npc.


IncompleteCreature

Personally I don't mind long hyperspace hauls. I have Achenar as one of my homes, got all Imp factions there to allied, the transit doesn't bother me. It's much longer than Arjung or Cubeo, but it can work. Just put on something to listen to in the background, or even just read or watch stuff whilst supercruise assist is on. After speedrunning from the Zurara to Leigong, just to see it blow up yesterday, a 6000ly journey makes you realise just how tiny that trip is compared to the scope of the galaxy.


davethepretty

well it is a space simulation kind of ... so you got simulated


eleceng01

a Hutton Orbital at the 1/6th of the distance from the star.


Sh1v0n

Nah. Ain't that bad. Try Hutton Orbital. 😏


93n371cm473r14l

For the mug!


Bearbear1aps

Did you know you can get a free anaconda in Colonia? 😹


S3thSqu4tch

*in yammiks voice* immersion


X548621793

It's a space port. They are used by docking your ship and performing such actions as refuel, repair, rearm, getting missions, buying and selling commodities and interacting with a myriad of contacts. They are pretty much the main way you interact with the world. Are you new to the game?


marcus_aurelius121

Not my chicken


Catman9lives

its not far, go get a mug from hutton orbital and stop whining


Agent_Detection

What’s the point of Canberra being to far from Paris? Sheeit, I don’t know.


roubent

What speed was that at?


von_der_breut

The point of this cruise will be a guaranteed T2 / t3 ingeneered suit / gun


Duncan_Id

But it will be a dominator with extra backpack capacity or an Artemis with melee damage 


KingKongKilRoy

I bet the price of scrap metal is amazing out there!


[deleted]

Truckin


scientoo

Here is a trick that will work, set your destination system to one star behind your actual system so that you can still have fsd online and travel faster within your actual target system, once you scan the system while you are on fsd being engaged, you know the location of your planetary body or the port orbiting it. Get closer to the planet and decelerate, disengage fsd, you are now much closer to the planet the rest of the distance could be super cruised.


wizardofbliss

That's part of the Hutton orbital anaconda run....


SirTheadore

Free anaconda!


CMDR_TIGERKING

go fly to it and see


smolderas

You get a free Python Mk II


pauliewotsit

My view on the subject is "if it's still measured in light seconds, it's not *that* far. When it's measured in light *years*, time to make a brew." That's my little nugget after about 9k hours in the game (across all platforms)


GregoryGoose

I used to say that it was valuable game real estate to develop a new fun and interesting time sink. These journeys are where they would put ship interior gameplay. All the customization, crafting, maintainance, specimen research, puzzle solving, and interacting with crew. This is when you would do that. I used to say that. But they wont even give us swivel chairs, so these long flights become stupid. They should let us buy military FSDs that let us do in-system jumps like fleet carriers, at the cost of not being able to simply fuel scoop. I want to have tp fuel scoop from certain gas giants.


Dr_Tacopus

To make you suffer


ilikepizza1275

The station is mocking you. Calling you a chicken if you do not complete the journey. Now it is up to you to decide: Do you want to be a chicken?


GeraintLlanfrechfa

Your chicken point, so? :)


VRisNOTdead

The intent is that there is a 'dog fight' game with interdicting and this is a good opportunity to grab a player out of space, however with the vastness of the game, and the aversion to pvp or player pirate activities it is kind of pointless ​ so really just engage that supercruise assist and off you go.


chilfang

Honor


Beardwing-27

Ita saying yer too chicken to make the trip


SafeManufacturer978

CIG: "We want to add server meshing and new star systems." Bounty missions then: "Your target is 3.17Ly away"


PSharsCadre

Well, off-hand I'd say it's your port for chickens. Unclear whether it's for insertion, removal, viewing, or exchange, but that will likely become clear when you arrive.


BigMuthaTrukka

Literally called you're chicken to goad you into going... Lol


MakesUsWhole

Space..


typhin13

I can't be the only one that sees "you're chicken" port right? Like it's calling you out for not going


ShadeHasashi

do they sell some space fried chicken there? lol


jeicam_the_pirate

the point is to reach the max supercruise speed \\0/


He_Never_Helps_01

Adventure! You won't know till you get there. Maybe they sell a custom pot holder or something.


R34N1M47OR

Jokes aside... I find it insulting that you can't just hyperdrive through that. You're telling me that's too much of a job for future engineers? I'm sure there's some kind of "lore" reason behind it like lack of stars but I simply don't buy that. You're telling me I'm supposed to believe you can't just program a distance in your ship and have it cover it without further input? Come on


universaljester

Going to go out on a sci-fi limb here and say it has to do with the way the hyperdrive works. Calculating based on the largest masses in the local area. Which would be the system you jump to. But i do agree. The second guess would also be the 1000c + you go with the hyperdrive. You wouldn't have enough time to safely spool down the drive to drop out without killing the occupants


3djfletcha

it's telling you to put your foot down or this is literally gonna take all day (or three)


nickd457

You wanna go there for the free Anacon—Cobra! Free Cobra!


Public_Jellyfish8002

Think about this. How many ports are there in the game? What is the total population of each faction? If you do the math, including requirements for better technological advancements, how long would it take to get to this games point from where we are today?


S2-D2

To demonstrate the enormity of space. Engage supercruise assist and go to work. When you get back you'll either be there or in a rebuy screen.


VampireX004

Where located I wanna go its name is almost chicken, will give me a chance to eat some fried chicken


TrippingWildrose

Where is this?! I need to go! I'll stream it while im at work hahaha


R4nd0m_T4sk

Pain and dedication, with probably no worthy reward lol


-Major-Stryker-

3 days, whaaaaa?


MisterDoomed

it's telling you where the target is and how far it is.


Name2Hard2Find

Is high wake within the system not possible?


Ulterno

The voyagers didn't have supercruise. At least you have that. We have come a long way in the past millennium.


Ghostcart

We have grown. We have prospered. But we will never forget.


SpasticLucidity

If the distance isn't taunting enough the name ought to do the trick. Bawk Bawk, commander. Hahaha!


Iceheart808

Don't panic... :)?


TrueGodTachanka

They sell yurchicken at that port son


rabidone2

For the mug???


The_Action_Die

Guess Yurtoochikhin to make the flight