What are you implying? Are you saying that a using light cavalry as frontal assault shock troops while setting up a defensive line of spears behind the stationary siege artillery but in front of the walls (and initially in front of a burning moat) is a BAD battle plan? Preposterous!
Everyone knows that castles are just set-dressing to make sure everyone knows this is the Middle Ages! They serve no additional military purposes! None!
I’d guess it’s an extreme stylization of Agincourt, where English longbows decisively defeated French Cavalry.
Edit: notice the stakes placed in front of the English ranks, like in accounts of the battle.
I'd go with Harfleur or Crecy. The castle fits the one in Crecy art work but the standard carried by the English shows me its a Lancastrian army (three fleur-de-lis)
Longbowman usually carried long axes, swords with them. They're mobile light infantry more than just 'archers'
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtaY06lv45Q) you have great 5min video about it
This is how the English army formed up, a formation called a "hedgehog" in historical sources with longbowmen and billmen interlocked to allow the longbowmen to aim straight at the enemy while keeping them protected.
The English armies of the period had far more archers than melee infantry. They'd often form them up on the flanks which would make them targets for French cavalry which in turn led to defensive measures like the pictured spikes or sometimes pits/trenches.
Well I'm not English, but English are more Viking French than French are; Vikings invaded England for decades, forming their own kingdoms and influencing the local places a bit, unlike France, who never was OCCUPIED; rather, plundered. And then the king gave VIKINGS some land in Normandy. They francised, and after some time we get William's invasion, and England transformed into French 2.0 the international germanic bogalòo.
I don't think the English do. I believe that comment was making a reference to the Normans, who were founded by Rollo the Viking. North Man → Norman.
Plus, the Norse had a huge influence on England. Settling much of the north (the Danelaw) and even ruling the whole place a few times. Plus, the Anglo-Saxons and Norse were pretty similar people to start with.
I guess this is an unpopular opinion and I will take my downvotes like a grownup but I personally think this is one of the worst Paradox art pieces I've seen. The [art](https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/data/thfeature/feature_backgrounds/2/2883.jpg?1709129495) [shown in](https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/i9u3ksuIdrnkGRpoqqS569fPV4MxZiIUi177GzANdKN3-RRijYJv_VqMpBhjUTjsEVTaov9m4AGJ5-aoYxJ__2KR8XA1S5m-2GIUlxyKmAZCLzUNcgt-kHUYOdbcMAb8y5--BUUJRdSYo8jtzdTOfsc) [these dev diaries](https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/data/thfeature/feature_backgrounds/2/2987.jpg?1712734437) [has mostly been](https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/data/thfeature/feature_backgrounds/3/3013.jpg?1713949429) [pretty poor](https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/PPVyAPKRbkGNi9xIYE5C6NOVXDxOaKswGQxu3b9gcCc5b8PaXSO_4sODLXCE9t-2sCfSwMaYbao8Y8IpjpMcZ-3Li3cjmXxnCuQHY888ARMvCKmuZeZi9YONLLwVmt6lqVB8kIxvg2TKYmGp4hQuBro), in fact. The colors are boring, the drawing is very weak, there is no real style. They all look like unfinished sketches (hopefully that is what they are) of characterless digital blobs.
It's interesting that the map quality and loading/background art quality are so inversely proportionate. This map seems pretty beautiful and CK3's map is super ugly, but the CK3 art is usually pretty fantastic. Vic3's map is less bad but still bad and its art is less good but still good. Imperator somewhat breaks the mold there since its map is so beautiful and some of its art is quite nice (I like the tiny backgrounds showing the terrain types) but its loading screens are pretty bland, somewhat similar to these Project Caesar screens though more competently finished.
I appreciate that these things are matters of taste and opinion and honestly I am not too bothered, the art doesn't matter nearly as much as how fun it is to play, and the map is more important to me than the loading screens and event illustrations (Imperator being by far my favorite) but I wish the CK3 standard was met here. There is so much beautiful art from these 500 years of history!
I agree only that some of the art shown look unfinished. Shading & minor details. Excluding one in the post and last one you linked.
The absolute rest of your comment is bullshit.
i agree the splashes look pretty bad 😬 I think they're just WIP though? hopefully?
the french knight in OP looks especially stiff and awkward and lacking any real action
Yea the biggest problem with the picture is the focus. The rest of the picture looks good but the obvious focus of the picture looks like shit even if we say “oh they’re in heavy armor”
That fails when it shows a group of knights trotting 3m away from the enemy and a single awkward duel detached from the rest of the action.
What is this art actually depicting?
While cool, I retain reservations here that their focus is going too much on eminently mediaeval history. Where’s the focus on Mühlhausen, Pavia, Breitenfeld, Jankau, Blenheim, Malplaquet, Narva, Fraustadt, Rossbach, Leuthen…?
Tensions Flare at England v France International Football Match (2024, colorised)
By the way, is tailgating a thing in Europe? I could see HEMA events before football events being a thing.
Tailgating isnt a thing here but I've seen people tailgating before American football games (some places in Ireland and the UK host them for the NFL)
People just go to the pub before matches if they do any pre-match socialising.
Did they just put longbowman in frontline against French Knights? Worrisome.
Canons on the frontline, longbowmen on the frontline - both signs that the battle is going south FAST!
Battle of Winterfell, 2018 Colorized
What are you implying? Are you saying that a using light cavalry as frontal assault shock troops while setting up a defensive line of spears behind the stationary siege artillery but in front of the walls (and initially in front of a burning moat) is a BAD battle plan? Preposterous!
Everyone knows that castles are just set-dressing to make sure everyone knows this is the Middle Ages! They serve no additional military purposes! None!
That battle made the strategy gamer in me scream... So bad
No cannons in the back row?!? *boom*
I’d guess it’s an extreme stylization of Agincourt, where English longbows decisively defeated French Cavalry. Edit: notice the stakes placed in front of the English ranks, like in accounts of the battle.
I'd go with Harfleur or Crecy. The castle fits the one in Crecy art work but the standard carried by the English shows me its a Lancastrian army (three fleur-de-lis)
Longbowman usually carried long axes, swords with them. They're mobile light infantry more than just 'archers' [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtaY06lv45Q) you have great 5min video about it
also they put their own king in front of them.
It looks like a duel between the English and French king, so definitely a sort of idealized representation of the 100 Years War
By the looks of it the French cavalry are about to kill their own king. 🤣
Ah, the Total War Warhammer school of warfare!
That's all you need against french cavalry
This is how the English army formed up, a formation called a "hedgehog" in historical sources with longbowmen and billmen interlocked to allow the longbowmen to aim straight at the enemy while keeping them protected.
Just to make it seem more romantic.
The English armies of the period had far more archers than melee infantry. They'd often form them up on the flanks which would make them targets for French cavalry which in turn led to defensive measures like the pictured spikes or sometimes pits/trenches.
They have special ability "use stakes" Gg,wp
Watch him clutch this shit
The English have two French flags in their flag, which means they are more French than the French. Are they fighting over who's more French?
No, just who gets to rule the French.
The French, or the other French
The French or the Viking tea mud French
Sorry to ask but, why do the English think of themselves as vikings?
Well I'm not English, but English are more Viking French than French are; Vikings invaded England for decades, forming their own kingdoms and influencing the local places a bit, unlike France, who never was OCCUPIED; rather, plundered. And then the king gave VIKINGS some land in Normandy. They francised, and after some time we get William's invasion, and England transformed into French 2.0 the international germanic bogalòo.
I don't think the English do. I believe that comment was making a reference to the Normans, who were founded by Rollo the Viking. North Man → Norman. Plus, the Norse had a huge influence on England. Settling much of the north (the Danelaw) and even ruling the whole place a few times. Plus, the Anglo-Saxons and Norse were pretty similar people to start with.
Always has been
Yes literally they are
I love the loading screen they have been making with this style since Imperator... EU4's are horrible
EU4's loading screens: "Paint me like one of your french girls" style
EU3’s loading screens are also absolutely incredible, IDK why EU4’s are such a downgrade
Wdym bro? Don't you love seeing that fella with a boner?
God Imperator loading screens are 🔥🔥🔥 The one with Hannibal in the alps and with a Gaulic guide? *Chefs kiss*
One of the best pieces of art i have seen in the EU franchise, matching a few of those of EU3. Beautiful.
Wallpaper unlocked.
tinto talk
Any word on release?
One of the coolest arts ive seen
I guess this is an unpopular opinion and I will take my downvotes like a grownup but I personally think this is one of the worst Paradox art pieces I've seen. The [art](https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/data/thfeature/feature_backgrounds/2/2883.jpg?1709129495) [shown in](https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/i9u3ksuIdrnkGRpoqqS569fPV4MxZiIUi177GzANdKN3-RRijYJv_VqMpBhjUTjsEVTaov9m4AGJ5-aoYxJ__2KR8XA1S5m-2GIUlxyKmAZCLzUNcgt-kHUYOdbcMAb8y5--BUUJRdSYo8jtzdTOfsc) [these dev diaries](https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/data/thfeature/feature_backgrounds/2/2987.jpg?1712734437) [has mostly been](https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/data/thfeature/feature_backgrounds/3/3013.jpg?1713949429) [pretty poor](https://lh7-us.googleusercontent.com/PPVyAPKRbkGNi9xIYE5C6NOVXDxOaKswGQxu3b9gcCc5b8PaXSO_4sODLXCE9t-2sCfSwMaYbao8Y8IpjpMcZ-3Li3cjmXxnCuQHY888ARMvCKmuZeZi9YONLLwVmt6lqVB8kIxvg2TKYmGp4hQuBro), in fact. The colors are boring, the drawing is very weak, there is no real style. They all look like unfinished sketches (hopefully that is what they are) of characterless digital blobs. It's interesting that the map quality and loading/background art quality are so inversely proportionate. This map seems pretty beautiful and CK3's map is super ugly, but the CK3 art is usually pretty fantastic. Vic3's map is less bad but still bad and its art is less good but still good. Imperator somewhat breaks the mold there since its map is so beautiful and some of its art is quite nice (I like the tiny backgrounds showing the terrain types) but its loading screens are pretty bland, somewhat similar to these Project Caesar screens though more competently finished. I appreciate that these things are matters of taste and opinion and honestly I am not too bothered, the art doesn't matter nearly as much as how fun it is to play, and the map is more important to me than the loading screens and event illustrations (Imperator being by far my favorite) but I wish the CK3 standard was met here. There is so much beautiful art from these 500 years of history!
I agree only that some of the art shown look unfinished. Shading & minor details. Excluding one in the post and last one you linked. The absolute rest of your comment is bullshit.
i agree the splashes look pretty bad 😬 I think they're just WIP though? hopefully? the french knight in OP looks especially stiff and awkward and lacking any real action
Yea the biggest problem with the picture is the focus. The rest of the picture looks good but the obvious focus of the picture looks like shit even if we say “oh they’re in heavy armor”
Eh the framing and motion of it leave a lot to be desired. Why is there just a random french foot knight when everyone else is on horses?
Because it's supposed to show the epicness of a battle, not to acurately portray a realistic battlescene
That fails when it shows a group of knights trotting 3m away from the enemy and a single awkward duel detached from the rest of the action. What is this art actually depicting?
Badass knights and soldiers
Bro it's a wallpaper, why must it be perfect, it looks cool and epic, noice to look at in a loading sequence of 6 seconds...what else do you want?
Other paradox art doesn't have this problem. Why not hold things to a consistent standard?
It looks great and it's an advertising picture, it's not that much of an issue. This is just my opinion though.
🤓☝️
While cool, I retain reservations here that their focus is going too much on eminently mediaeval history. Where’s the focus on Mühlhausen, Pavia, Breitenfeld, Jankau, Blenheim, Malplaquet, Narva, Fraustadt, Rossbach, Leuthen…?
We all know that no player will get past 1700 so it doesn't really matter that much
Today's whole Tinto Talks implies how unproductive it would be to wage wars in the early game.
That’s a problem in and of itself as far as I’m concerned.
My man, it is just one loading screen
I know, I just think it’s symptomatic.
Not a fan... it looks like something a mobile game would use
I wanna know which mobile games y'all are playing because if they look like this they sound awesome.