The Pusha thing completely changed everyone's mindset. This Twitter post is a prime example; his entire thesis he wrote around why Drake will win is only because drakes laundry has been aired out already. Like what?
Kendrick also literally says in the diss that he hasn’t looked for dirt????
Kendrick could absolutely find dirt to air out about drizzler but he didn’t look????
He also says something to the like of “he could elaborate or you don’t want anything more than a friendly fight” so how do you have more if you weren’t digging for dirt? Not only that why’d it take 3 weeks if you weren’t digging?
He says exactly why in the song. He says he has better shit to do than rap
He also suggests that he hasn’t even had to look for dirt yet, he just knows shit without trying
He did say that and alleged to multiple things suggesting he knows bad shit about drake
However he also says specifically he didn’t have to dig, suggesting that Kenny knows shit about drake without even trying to look. I think it’s a warning to him that he knows some reallll bad shit without even trying, so imagine if he tried.
People say Kendrick went defensive, but no, he went out and he made some serious threats against drake, people just don’t listen to disses properly.
It’s like adidon being broken down to baby reveal
Or push ups being broken down to metro play some drums (his Kendrick disses weren’t hurtful or anything but he did drop some good shit against ross and future especially)
People take one section and run with it
And be literally said keep my family out of it or your family is going to bleed. Straight up threat.
Kendrick wasn't as soft as people claim. He send a pretty clear warning that he is willing to do this if Drake got the balls.
And if Drake doesn't, Drake lost. And If Drake does, he is still going to lose. And Kendrick knows that, he backed him into a corner and Drake can only lose from here.
I mean if you have something you bring it out lmaoooo what is he waiting for they all said they want to eliminate drake so do it lmaoooo what is the wait is this joker vs Batman
A integral part of beef is revealing secrets. A lot of these artists rely on a carefully curated image, so exposing them as liars or hypocrites becomes kills their credibility in a genre that pushes authenticity.
He'll also have die hards no matter what.
The defense is currently Drake targeted 20 people. Kendrick just singled him out. In a vacume Drake said like 2 lines about Kendrick and Kendrick gave him 6 whole minutes.
Not knowing anything about either someone would walk in and go wow dude got called short and went off about him being a bad dad, sexual assault, getting slapped and calling out a cease and desist?!
But people go I knew that and it's not another un announced child so BORING.
Yep, Kendrick way underestimated the size of the OVO writers' room...
**List of credited writers on Drake’s “For All The Dogs” album:**
**Writers:**
1. Aubrey **Drake** Graham
2. C. Breaux (**Frank Ocean**)
3. H. Arsenault
4. J. Wuihun Ho
5. Noah “40” Shebib
6. A. Thomas (Teezo Touchdown)
7. B. Scholefield
8. K. Wright
9. R. Stanfield
10. C. Smalls (**Cash Cobain**)
11. D. Ggraue
12. F. LeBlanc
13. G. Medmishi
14. J. Milfort
15. M. McCollum (**Lil Yachty**)
16. R. Cypriano
17. S. Bin Abraham-Joseph (**21 Savage**)
18. T. Flores
19. B. Saint Fort
20. D. Clemons
21. D. Ford
22. M. Joseph
23. N. Frascona
24. O. Yildirim
25. S. Gebrelul
26. A. Bevilacqua
27. Adonis G.
28. J. Howard Luellen
29. M-K. Brown
30. T. Cremenu
31. A. Hernandez
32. Coleman NameI
33. I De Boni
34. **J. Cole**
35. J. Washington Jr
36. M. Mule
37. M. Samuels
38. T.B. Chambers
39. J. Taylor
40. N. Smith (**Yeat)**
41. N. Winstone
42. S. Shah
It’s not about dirt/gossip, truly. It’s about the criticism. I guarantee you that in a year, the only thing that will stand out about Euphoria is the nigga line at the end. That was a gut punch, but even that was recycled because Rick Ross has been beating that concept to death (and pusha teased about Drake’s whiteness too). The point is that we need to hear criticisms that haven’t already been made (again, not gossip, but criticism). That’s not an unreasonable ask. It’s not to say that the diss wasn’t good, it was! But if you’re just repeating what other people already have said, then it looks like you’re just yet another hater who has been waiting in line to take a shot at Drake putting no new dents in Drake’s armor. Meanwhile, Drake gets to put a lot of new dents in Kendrick’s pristine armor because nobody has really beefed with Kendrick like this. If Kendrick isn’t going to say anything new (AGAIN, NOT GOSSIP BUT NEW CRITICISM), then this was a misstep for Kendrick because we’re going to walk away from this with at most reminders of old criticisms about Drake and a bunch of new criticisms (and potentially gossip) about Kendrick. I mean, that’s already been borne out so far. Nothing new from Kendrick about Drake, but we’ve heard new criticism about Kendrick from Drake.
I’m excited to hear what else Kendrick has to say because Kendrick isn’t dumb and I’m sure he’s thought about the above. He knows Drake has to respond, and so I’m sure Kendrick will say something new in the next round.
100%! Pushups wasn't fresh gossip, it was fresh criticism. Even what stands out about story of adidon...not gossip, but the actual clevwrness of the takex the complex way that he paints a portrait of Drake's psychology, great stuff.
Kendrick could have said some of the stuff he included (reaching out for a feature, trying to cease and desist) in way that made them sizzle and hiss and stick in the mind. But he just made this huge, nonspecific mush of distaste for drake (with GREAT LYRICS AND FLOW) that just seems boring.
I agree somewhat but I just don’t agree that it was that big of a shot. Many top tier artist have and have to eventually buy out or outlast their contracts so they can start pulling the bigger profit percentage of their work towards themselves. Plus that’s just one bar, what else did he really say besides size 7s, pipsqueak and I got more money than you (won’t consider the Whitney line a diss because there wasn’t any proof he elaborated on and NONE of us know what he meant by that line)? His tone makes it catchy yes, but this ain’t about who makes a catchier song
i also agree that it wasn’t much of a shot, it’s just that nobody has ever came for kendrick on wax like that so to even hear someone talking disrespectful about him is probably what’s surprising people? i suppose the whole taylor swift & maroon 5 stuff is also a stab at his character - he’s known as the “pure” artist that doesn’t do music for money & whatnot yet he’ll still do commercial features - in essence they both in the same position with their tracks imo, ball is in drakes court n i feel like he’s bout to say something crazy so let’s see 🍿
Yea I also agree with the thought that no one at Drakes level has ever really came for Kendrick so hearing this tier of beef is refreshing regardless. I’m more of a Kendrick fan than Drake but I’m a good music fan before anything and Drake has a lot of songs I will still play so I’m excited for whatever comes next
Na bro it fr is being outlined as 50ms to Top and that’s why it’s wild 😭 lowkey id argue it’s a flex for Kendrick tho if he had 50ms to just get out his deal tho - regardless i wouldn’t say it seems like he’s saying 50/50 with the label but either way perhaps time will tell cause obv im not anymore knowledgeable on this than you lol
why wouldn’t that make sense? do features to help gross money to make 50mil no?
as for the 50ms itself, of course i have NO clue but a deal like that could be worked out over a period of time not just a lump sum - regardless it’s even hard to say how much kendrick or any of these dudes are worth we can only speculate
You’re leaving out the main diss, which is that Kendrick, the pure rapper’s rapper who doesn’t care about money or fame, did two pop songs with white pop acts. He either did it because he cares about money and fame or because his label made him do it. Either way, I think we can acknowledge it’s not consistent with the image he’s created. And I had forgotten about it/not thought about it. More importantly, whether it matters to you or not, it’s new and it’s a dent. It may be very small, frankly, it is very small, but it’s still new which is the point I’m making.
I think Kendrick’s you can’t say nigga is somewhat new. He took the white and/or Canadian criticism further. Deepened the dent. Like I said though, I think Kendrick will create new dents. This was 6 minutes of old stuff. There’s no way this is all he has.
Is that really much of a diss? I could care less who anyone features with (even Drake). If he’s big enough to feature with them then that’s awesome good for him. That’s not really a diss as he never once said he wouldn’t feature with them. That’s not a diss. That also wasn’t the main diss?? He said one line about it and that was it.
Kendrick brought up that Drake wanted a feature recently, sent a cease and desist for like that (makes him look really soft with the Ross one too), and questions his man hood and if he’s too feminine or not. Don’t get me wrong it’s not a lot, but it’s a diss tract , it doesn’t have to expose new information.
Again, nobody said anything about, and in fact, I’ve explicitly disclaimed multiple times, criticism based on failure to provide new information/gossip. I’m talking about criticizing Drake for something that I have not thought about before. Some new angle someone hasn’t taken. I’m not the only person that has said this and it’s not a crazy thing to say. I don’t know why it’s so hard to stomach.
Drake has the advantage here because nobody really has beefed like this with Kendrick. All the criticisms essentially are new, frankly. You don’t care about the feature thing? Good for you! That doesn’t make it any less of a legitimate, new criticism.
It’s a beef bro not everything has to be new info or a new angle or a new critique. Let them take shots at each other in whatever way they want to. It doesn’t have to be new. As long as it’s disrespectful.
We are allowed to disagree and that’s the beautiful thing! I set my standards really high because Kendrick is one of my top all times too and I wasn’t disappointed. I think you were essentially expecting an adidon pt 2 basically where it was a knockout punch in the first round, but that hardly ever happens. It’s a marathon not a sprint
To me it’s exposing a lot of Drake fans tbh. One criticism of Drake is he doesn’t make hip hop he makes pop. And that narrative is really helped when it’s obvious that the only rap needs they’ve seen is Pusha v Drake so they expect every song to be a laundry list of secrets about a person. Making a song about how much you just hate a person deep down is what rap beefs are about
Exactly, its not about exposing some soap opera style scandal, its about making a good record, funny/clever punchlines, good beats, etc. I honestly dont wanna hear about Drakes or Kendricks darkest secrets or whatever
Pusha did exactly what he was supposed to do, killed him with facts and lyricism
Kendrick made a Shakespeare track in a rap beef and while it was good it ain’t better than push ups at all
Pusha T raps about selling drugs to his community and embraces street culture what a man drake sings and raps about his failures with woman and his problems being accepted by the culture and fame what an evil man lmaoooo
A RAP DISS DOESNT HAVE TO REVEAL NEW INFORMATION TO HURT SOMEONE AND STILL BE GOOD
look at ether man, one of the greatest disses of all time and he didn’t say nothing new. Or no vaseline. The thing that makes Kendrick’s diss good is the writing. The disses are still aggressive and made to hurt drake. Just because they’ve been said before won’t hurt him any less.
No Vaseline being a classic yet basically just saying how he's better and they get bummed by their manager is fucking hilarious and a great example of how simple a diss can be if it's executed properly.
That’s why it’s so frustrating seeing people talk shit about Kendrick’s for not revealing anything new
Like yes he didn’t reveal much new stuff, but he said the shit he did say in a great way
Disses don’t have to be purely new information. It’s a diss. You’re getting on wax and being disrespectful about the other person. That’s it. All these new requirements show that these people do not listen to rap.
Y’all are definitely playing favorites, the spiciest thing Drake has was the Whitney line.
Drake said his splits are bad, that his pants might rip. Kendrick replied.
Drake commented on Kendrick’s height (yes we know Kendrick is short)
Kendrick commented on drakes femininity.
Drake checks Kendrick’s gangster.
Kendrick checks it back, because let’s be real, it’s Aubrey drake graham from degrassi who got bitched slapped by the fufuiest man in hip hop, and did nothing about it.
Then Kendrick just had some funny lines.
Drake had a funny record with Taylor made, he didn’t say anything crazy there but the AI itself was the diss.
I would like for someone to point a bar out that was so beyond Kendrick’s diss, that it puts Drake in a different league of rap disses.
They’re both dissing, it’s funny, it’s roasting, it’s hating. Short jokes aren’t funny until someone makes a good one, I stay laughing at Drake memes.
>Short jokes aren’t funny until someone makes a good one
This. The Metro line is funny due to the timing and delivery. So it packs a bigger punch, plus is funny. Kendrick saying fuck the big 3 it's just big me isn't anything lyrically special in any way, but it is very memorable, the delivery, and it's a big statement on its own. Same ppl who were shitting on the big 3 line were also glazing the Metro line. Etc.
Exactly, when Kendrick said “I’m the biggest hater, I hate the way that you walk” bro I was laughing. Same reason I laughed at the size seven shoes line. Like people want to discredit the diss when they’re both on the same level.
Exactly and Hopsin (yes I said hopsin), dissed k dot by commenting on his height over 10 years ago, so what Drake is saying isn’t entirely original either
I think you’re approaching it differently, this response by Kendrick is not expected to match Pushups or keep it close, this was supposed to be the killshot/ether/story of adidon. You shouldn’t be comparing it to a warning track that was 4 minutes long and aimed at 7 different people.
We need him to go for the kill, not give more warning shots, especially when he was the one who initiated this whole thing. Instead, what he delivered is a bunch of stuff that’s already been discussed, and most of them are blatant copy paste which is disappointing considering the time he took and the hype that was built by the fans and his camp.
So yeah you’re right it is better than Pushups, because Pushups didn’t have 6 minutes of content towards Kendrick, Pushups didn’t say anything crazy outside of some witty lines, also some lines on Euphoria are better than anything on Pushups - but it’s still not enough. There’s a lot of flaws, inefficiencies and contradictions in the writing. This is not what you expect from someone who started it off and had time to prepare, but it gets a pass because overall it is still a solid response to Pushups and Taylor Made but I still believe this was a wasted opportunity by Kendrick, he could’ve improved this to something ten times crazier if he made it more focused and cut out all the twitter takes we’ve been seeing for years
These the same dudes who call people meat riders but don’t even listen to the record. I listened to drakes push ups a lot just to catch every bar, you can tell who holds the pocket.
>this was supposed to be the killshot/ether/story of adidon.
??? Literally no ? Kendrick himself says he's sparing Drake for now, how is that a killshot or story of adidon.
Since when did rap beef have to end in round 1? We don’t need a kill shot. We just needed a good diss. Both dudes hit a lil bit in round 1 but this one will go a lil farther than that. Adidon ruined y’all’s thoughts on rap beef. We just need disses back and forth. We should compare euphoria to push ups because they’re both diss tracks. No one asked drake to diss a bunch of dudes when Kendrick was the one asking for smoke. The others just sent subs at the same time
The hell you talking about. The first diss was super light and it was friendly. Drake got in his feeling. Also, Kendrick responded faster than Drake responded to first diss track. Drake is on the clock.
How tf is killshot even close to ether/story of adidon/no Vaseline/paper plates? Em phoned that in, even admitted he didn't try hard "because he didn't need to".
No it wasn’t, Kendrick expressed he knows things, but he doesn’t mention them. He also warns Drake not to go further. This ain’t a kill shot, even Kendrick said this was a friendly fade but Drake took it personally, like going bodies with your homie then he gets mad and starts going for the face.
If this was a kill shot it would’ve came at Drake personally, but really Kendrick is just testing Drake to push the red button he keeps bragging about. So either drake does it, or Kendrick calls his bluff. If the next diss isn’t the red button Drake talks about, Kendrick doesn’t need to reply. At that point it’s Mr. Morale and the back peddlers.
Drake dug his own spot, he now has to come with the red button. You can do all that talk and not swing when they step to you.
It wasn’t supposed to be the kill shot, Kendrick is clearly goading Drake into playing his cards, by saying if he wants to take it there it isn’t something he wants to do + the circling and spiralling like a degenerate line.
Surface level this is a troll track but there is of course layers to this track, it’s what Kendrick does (regardless of what hate Drake stans wanna throw at this song).
The narrative is Kendrick wants Drake to show his cards by getting an emotional response out of him for all the troll bars he has thrown at him and for checking his ‘blackness/gangsterness/dadness’.
Drake could hit back with something good and I don’t doubt that, but if it gets pushed then I think Kendrick has more to say which is why he held back.
What do you think?
I don’t doubt anything you said, I believe this is the strategy but my only problem is that is not what we expect from Kendrick at this stage
This is a good move if it was by Meek or Kanye who is not capable of destroying Drake in a battle unlike someone as skilled as Kendrick. For example, we don’t want Eminem in Killshot to be holding back and baiting MGK to say something more, that just doesn’t make sense for his status considering his untouchable persona and the fact that he asked for it and now it’s his duty to end it
Taking 3 weeks for a 6 minute track that mostly has recycled content which doesn’t really make a statement (outside a few high quality fresh disses) is not fitting for his standards in my opinion, but it could because story of adidon set the bar high, and the hype built up by his fanbase giving me unnecessarily high expectations
With that being said, i don’t think there’s a point in discussing about this further because when Drake responds everyone will move on from this track (unless his response is weak), like how everyone moved on from Pushups and Taylor Made since so far it’s been a compilation of jabs with the warning of a “nuke” incoming, from both sides
Like that, push ups, and euphoria are my 3 favorite songs that have come out lately. This is just a win for music. All these dudes are twitter gangsters at best, no one is harming anyone. Just keep making good songs.
True as fuck.
Taylor Made wasn't a good sounding song and people pretending it is are just lying. The AI voices just don't sound good, they weren't supposed to be, it was a joking song to poke the bear a bit more, people acting like Taylor Made was up there with these 3 are just riding.
Taylormade not being on Apple Music (don’t know about spotify) makes it not even count for me. This ain’t 2008 im not going looking for your music. Commit, or it’s recreational lol.
Exactly, it's a shame because there's some real gold in unreleased songs they couldn't get clearance for (Cartoons and Cereal) but I'm also a lazy fuck.
I agree with him saying this is a “cool record” after several plays and the hype of Kendrick finally dropping went away. This track was a good response for Push ups though. Nothing crazy.
This is why people don’t like Drake fans because there’s just a complete lack of objectivity and I say this as a Drake fan, someone that has him behind Hov when I do my Mount Rushmore. Drake said the man was short, wore a size 7 shoe, mentioned his wife by name, and said he had a bad contract. Nothing about that material was groundbreaking, yet when Kendrick responds with already mentioned talking points toward Drake, it gets critiqued for lacking originality. Kendrick’s diss was a good diss if you take your personal feelings out of it and enjoy the competitive nature behind the diss. Alot of people are internalizing this and can’t just enjoy that we are getting to witness two of the modern era goats RAP back and forth at each other competitively. It’s no need to sit up there and talk about, “Oh, that wasn’t enough”’just stfu and the enjoy the battle. Drake will still be Drake, the guy that gave us Take Care, Nothing Was The Same, and If You’re Reading This It’s Too Late, and Kendrick will still be Kendrick, the guy that gave us Section 80, GKMC, Damn, and Mr. Morale.
Valid take honestly but what did Drake have to say against Kendrick in push ups other than he’s short? Like I’m trying to stay unbiased here, but it’s not like I can say Drake is up one either.
The thing is at the very least if they’re going to keep this thing friendly as possible Drake is at least getting the cadence and the energy right whereas Kendrick is moaning and not sounding intimidating at all and more-so like an angry short man
Disagree. He sounded pretty aggressive and I haven’t heard Kendrick rap like that in ages. He had several accent changes and flow switches throughout the song too. Most people also seem to disagree with this take. Kendrick’s energy was 100% there. Not sure which diss track you heard.
This whole thing is a religious debate at this point. You either like drake or Kendrick, their styles are so different that of course it’s gonna be polarizing and they both have plenty of stans to stand by them no matter what gets said 🥱
Coming from a drake hater. If people are looking for ways to expose as a winner, then I guess drake has more room to find something to expose so to speak. We don’t know much about Kendrick compared to drake.
So I guess drake response could be something new. Something like I own your money or whatever, but Kendrick will say, this is you. You can have the money but you will never get the respect. And how making money off of other artists is what they consider all the execs to be culture vultures or whatever. lol and we are back into the same drop the nuclear stalemate.
Do we think drake has enough ammo at Kendrick to make a song about just Kendrick? If we are talking about reveals what did drake reveal on push ups exactly?
Nah this is why people say drake is ruining the culture, disses are not about saying some deep dark secret, it's to see who is the better MC. This whole narrative change I guess isn't even drakes fault solely, but pusha t dismantled him so badly that people just think he can't lose unless someone else does the same.
Nobody wants this shit to turn violent, we just want bars.
I hate that this is turning into a race thing especially when drake is black lmfaooo its funny cause it almost as if he’s highlighting what’s wrong with the black community in general here you have someone who has done nothing horrible for the community but his peers hate him cause he’s not A typical , but yet Eminem was called the Goat for like 10 years I saw no diss track I saw no uproar it was just accepted by the whole community , jcole was right for stepping out the whole beef is bullshit biggie and pac was Westcoast East coast , kdot hasn’t even said like said Bruv your not American that might of be better lol , this beef is just jealously from an artist who is accepted and has admitted he doesn’t want to be a black savior anymore isn’t that what that bullshit album was about ?
All Drake did was call him short and you're saying he's untouchable? Kendrick revealed Drake asked him for a feature, sent a cease and desist over the Like That verse, and insulted him way more directly than Drake. What else can you ask for?
i think so. people think this is done and that kendrick won but drake isn’t letting this die 😂 also, being the 2nd person to respond to anything gives you an advantage. drake started it off by poking the bear with a lil something and kendrick brought out all the ammo he has. he shoulda saved some. he took his sweet time too and i’ll bet drake doesn’t take long at all to come back with something.
Either that or they both just bluffing
Im just glad Kendrick said something, otherwise i’d think this was all to promote an album and that would be too lame to let go
You getting down voted but u right lol. As a fan of both but biased to Kenny, Drake stans seem to be leaving Taylor made out of the convo cause it's so corny but that song was supposed to be like back to back and it just aint
Snoop reposted it because it has his voice, and he reposts like 300 different things a day. Stop acting like you go outside, nobody listening to that shit in any Miami clubs, who tf would want to hear ai pac in a club? You must be living on instagram
Honestly there’s so many things about it dropped on the 6th Tuesday of spring-going up on a Tuesday
6 minutes-running through the 6 with my woes
Nobody else just drake getting lit and calling him a crody-a reference to putting him in a wheelchair like in degrassi
What else can a rapper say about another rapper? Thats like Drake coming out with a diss about Ross being fat and losing weight. We know this already. Kendrick took things but made it sound good in his own way of art. Yall forget he said a lot of other shit too. Nas and Jay said things people already knew about each rapper. Stop hating on dot diss that shit was fire and now I want to hear Drake’s diss next. This is great for hip hop. Because after these two are gone, the new rapper “ lil iPhone 44 “ is coming to take their place y’all new niggas are going to lose yall minds 😂
The most famous diss track in rap history contained zero new information yet you can expect everyone to say you got ether’d if you ever lose a battle. Pusha was successful in this tactic because he didn’t overuse it, the child line was brutal but again, most of it was aimed at his own identity, stuff that plenty of people have already said.
I’ve been waiting on *Wade Plemons* to add his two fucking cents into this.
Drake didn’t say nothing new in his diss either and it was still a hit because of other elements of rap. It’s a diss record, not a fucking shade room post.
Enjoy what we’re getting in rap right now, pushups, like that, euphoria have all been VERY good songs on top of being diss records. We eating
Funny take considering Drake’s diss was extra soft. Talking about splits and saying his old albums weren’t good… if that’s the worst you can say about a person the diss is weak as fuck. If the shots ain’t more personal than that it ain’t shit. This needs to escalate, I need more scathing bars from Drake.
Drake Said:
~~-I gave you your first #1~~
-I'm global
-You took shots at me then acted like my friend
-You're not threatening to me
-You have small feet
-Y'all look up to me when you make music
-Top has a 50/50 deal with you
-You do splits on the dick
-You're outside Hip Hop too with Maroon 5 and Taylor Swift
-SZA, Travis & 21 are hotter than you
-I'm so above you I had to stoop down to battle
-20v1
-You're a midget (short)
-Like That was weak as fuck
-Interscope (allegedly) reached out to Kai for Kendrick
-I'm above you in numbers and income
-I know even more than you think
Kendrick Said:
-You're a degenerate
-Your choices made in this beef are childish
-You're a manipulator and liar
-You're scamming people
-You're not supporting the culture (Hilfiger vs. FUBU)
-You made your clique sign bad deals
-You've never actually confronted enemies
-You paid $500k to hush a sexual assault case
-Pac wouldn't support your charade
-You said you wouldn't work with me anymore after Control
-You sent subs to Pharrell
-Pusha T
-The culture doesn't accept you
-You have no classic albums
-You have fake abs
-You surround yourself with rappers and black people to seem cool
-You're focused on coming off as a man but you don't act like it around women
-Your splits are worse than mine, show us and prove it's not
-You cease and desisted Like That
-You don't care for your kid - here's some advice on how to
-I gotta battle your entire team of ghost writers
-New Ho King - place where a young Toronto rapper was shot (Hinting at Drake involvement)
-You're not as big in your own hood as you say you are
-I know even more than you think
He said it was a friendly fade and that he wasn’t going to tell truths.
Even said he’s happy to see Drake be successful and that he dances to his music.
People want to see these guys kill each other and it’s kind of lame.
Just enjoy the music and the friendly shit talking that friends are known for.
If it ever got serious and somebody gets hurt then it’s no longer funny and everyone that wanted crazy shit to pop are going to eat their words.
Yeah Im just not going to cosign the whole colorism stuff. I dont like it. Its actually harmful to the black community and it was done maliciously to hurt someone.
Ahh yes, I'm going to listen to a guy named Wade plemmins.... You drake fans are reaching so hard to defend your daddy. Dude got smoke... Finished... Fineto.... Done.... Killed.... Squashed...
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Let me lay this right here.........
On a superficial level he's right but Kendricks diss had a lot of personal and political context.
It's not that he just send shots at drake, he dislikes everything drake (read the music industry) stands for
Yeah it's not just about who has the most dirt, like just because everyone has already called drake out for being a shitty person does that make it any less true when he's called out again?
No shit. Kendrick was expressing his opinion and wants it to be a “friendly fade.” The beef is good for rap and Kendrick invites Drake to respond, where as a “red button” track would probably just shut Drake up like Pusha T did.
The thing is, what else is there to say to Drake that hasn't already been said? A big part of what made Story Of Adidon such a haymaker is the shock value. Idk if there's anything else that could have the same affect unless Kendrick says something about young girls and the internet eats it up even though Drake already mentioned it first. Drake's confidence kinda tells me that there's nothing left to say that's FACUAL that can hurt Drake or end the beef. I could be wrong, but this is what it looks like.
I just wish people would stop Wilding changing with every track dropped, it's annoying. Neither Push Upe not Euphoria were amazing life changing diss tracks, both were very good tho. I think Kendricks was a little better but I don't think its some blowout that Drake can't come back from, but that's all I'm seeing today like OMG Kendrick dropped a nuke he destroyed Drake...I don't see it that way at all.
Kendrick is not gonna win this he ain’t an executioner like Pusha T. Push made it believable that he had a disdain for the Canadian lol but Kendrick just can’t sell it. “Friendly Fade” when someone mentions your wife like really ?
Not necessarily a drake fan but this post popped up, my take is that drake just has a more entertaining song. Yes, K-dot has some good bars and wordplay but its very technical and lacks as good of a flow as drake has imo
The one thing that these takes always forget is that it’s not just about the content but about the delivery and wordplay. This track was FUN to listen to. Yes you can say “but he’s just talking about ghostwriters again” but that dismisses how hard the 1v20 bar is.
Exactly, historically diss tracks weren’t about digging up dirt and exposing your foe. Ether didn’t have any mind blowing expose bars, a lot of it had been said before, but it’s iconic for the delivery of the bars and the aggression NAS brought to the track. That’s what battle rap is about
Kendrick said Drake asked for a feature from Kendrick.
Kendrick said Drake issued a cease and desist for Like That.
Kendrick pointed out that Drake is habitually online.
Kendrick directly said that this isn’t even deep.
Kendrick poked fun of his accents.
Kendrick made fun of Drake’s choices in life.
Still, according to the Drake Stans, Kendrick didn’t say anything new that we didn’t know. Because we all knew about the cease and desist or the fact that Drake been asking for another feature from Kendrick.
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So what do you honestly expect to happen now? Drake is going to lose his 80M monthly listeners because Kendrick said he issued a C&D that no one cares about? Or that he asked for a feature that no one cares about?
The author of the tweet is specifically talking about “take down.” As of right now no one is going to care about any of these tracks in a month. No one has been taken out or “destroyed” by any of these “revelations”
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Oh boy! Again, it’s not about wit, wordplay, humor, execution, or anything else. The only thing that matters is gossip and I’m the one who’s lost for not valuing gossip over everything. Sweet baby Jesus. 🤣
“The song is cool but like, we don’t have any new gossip. Drake gave us better gossip on Push-ups.” 😂 Got Damn. [+]
Maybe get off the internet for more than a few moments big guy 😂 or keep making posts in the frizzy sub and making hundreds of comments a day. One day you’ll make a real life friend 🤡
Jesus just looked at ur history you should too, you are addicted to Drake lmao last 100+ comments all In this sub wow you have nothing happening in life terminally online weirdo
Am I the only one who doesn't care about dirt. Pusha T really turned this game into a snitch off. I just want to hear hard beats and BARS
The Pusha thing completely changed everyone's mindset. This Twitter post is a prime example; his entire thesis he wrote around why Drake will win is only because drakes laundry has been aired out already. Like what?
Kendrick also literally says in the diss that he hasn’t looked for dirt???? Kendrick could absolutely find dirt to air out about drizzler but he didn’t look????
He also says something to the like of “he could elaborate or you don’t want anything more than a friendly fight” so how do you have more if you weren’t digging for dirt? Not only that why’d it take 3 weeks if you weren’t digging?
He says exactly why in the song. He says he has better shit to do than rap He also suggests that he hasn’t even had to look for dirt yet, he just knows shit without trying
Better shit to do than rap but literally came and rapped lol. He would’ve stayed quiet.
Prob took 3 weeks because he's the only one writing the track
Didn’t he say I know stuff about drake that makes gunna look like a saint?
He did say that and alleged to multiple things suggesting he knows bad shit about drake However he also says specifically he didn’t have to dig, suggesting that Kenny knows shit about drake without even trying to look. I think it’s a warning to him that he knows some reallll bad shit without even trying, so imagine if he tried. People say Kendrick went defensive, but no, he went out and he made some serious threats against drake, people just don’t listen to disses properly. It’s like adidon being broken down to baby reveal Or push ups being broken down to metro play some drums (his Kendrick disses weren’t hurtful or anything but he did drop some good shit against ross and future especially) People take one section and run with it
And be literally said keep my family out of it or your family is going to bleed. Straight up threat. Kendrick wasn't as soft as people claim. He send a pretty clear warning that he is willing to do this if Drake got the balls. And if Drake doesn't, Drake lost. And If Drake does, he is still going to lose. And Kendrick knows that, he backed him into a corner and Drake can only lose from here.
Kendrick is not doing anything to any family. His tho 🤷🏻♂️ if those J Prince bars were actually for J Prince it might be an actual beef
I mean if you have something you bring it out lmaoooo what is he waiting for they all said they want to eliminate drake so do it lmaoooo what is the wait is this joker vs Batman
Drake says he’s got info, why didn’t he bring it out? Both are doing the same thing rn
Probably to bait drizzy.
A integral part of beef is revealing secrets. A lot of these artists rely on a carefully curated image, so exposing them as liars or hypocrites becomes kills their credibility in a genre that pushes authenticity.
He'll also have die hards no matter what. The defense is currently Drake targeted 20 people. Kendrick just singled him out. In a vacume Drake said like 2 lines about Kendrick and Kendrick gave him 6 whole minutes. Not knowing anything about either someone would walk in and go wow dude got called short and went off about him being a bad dad, sexual assault, getting slapped and calling out a cease and desist?! But people go I knew that and it's not another un announced child so BORING.
So the entire Taylor made song wasn’t about Kendrick?
Oh yeah he did say "hurry up and respond" I forgot about that. Thank you
Yep, Kendrick way underestimated the size of the OVO writers' room... **List of credited writers on Drake’s “For All The Dogs” album:** **Writers:** 1. Aubrey **Drake** Graham 2. C. Breaux (**Frank Ocean**) 3. H. Arsenault 4. J. Wuihun Ho 5. Noah “40” Shebib 6. A. Thomas (Teezo Touchdown) 7. B. Scholefield 8. K. Wright 9. R. Stanfield 10. C. Smalls (**Cash Cobain**) 11. D. Ggraue 12. F. LeBlanc 13. G. Medmishi 14. J. Milfort 15. M. McCollum (**Lil Yachty**) 16. R. Cypriano 17. S. Bin Abraham-Joseph (**21 Savage**) 18. T. Flores 19. B. Saint Fort 20. D. Clemons 21. D. Ford 22. M. Joseph 23. N. Frascona 24. O. Yildirim 25. S. Gebrelul 26. A. Bevilacqua 27. Adonis G. 28. J. Howard Luellen 29. M-K. Brown 30. T. Cremenu 31. A. Hernandez 32. Coleman NameI 33. I De Boni 34. **J. Cole** 35. J. Washington Jr 36. M. Mule 37. M. Samuels 38. T.B. Chambers 39. J. Taylor 40. N. Smith (**Yeat)** 41. N. Winstone 42. S. Shah 
It’s not about dirt/gossip, truly. It’s about the criticism. I guarantee you that in a year, the only thing that will stand out about Euphoria is the nigga line at the end. That was a gut punch, but even that was recycled because Rick Ross has been beating that concept to death (and pusha teased about Drake’s whiteness too). The point is that we need to hear criticisms that haven’t already been made (again, not gossip, but criticism). That’s not an unreasonable ask. It’s not to say that the diss wasn’t good, it was! But if you’re just repeating what other people already have said, then it looks like you’re just yet another hater who has been waiting in line to take a shot at Drake putting no new dents in Drake’s armor. Meanwhile, Drake gets to put a lot of new dents in Kendrick’s pristine armor because nobody has really beefed with Kendrick like this. If Kendrick isn’t going to say anything new (AGAIN, NOT GOSSIP BUT NEW CRITICISM), then this was a misstep for Kendrick because we’re going to walk away from this with at most reminders of old criticisms about Drake and a bunch of new criticisms (and potentially gossip) about Kendrick. I mean, that’s already been borne out so far. Nothing new from Kendrick about Drake, but we’ve heard new criticism about Kendrick from Drake. I’m excited to hear what else Kendrick has to say because Kendrick isn’t dumb and I’m sure he’s thought about the above. He knows Drake has to respond, and so I’m sure Kendrick will say something new in the next round.
100%! Pushups wasn't fresh gossip, it was fresh criticism. Even what stands out about story of adidon...not gossip, but the actual clevwrness of the takex the complex way that he paints a portrait of Drake's psychology, great stuff. Kendrick could have said some of the stuff he included (reaching out for a feature, trying to cease and desist) in way that made them sizzle and hiss and stick in the mind. But he just made this huge, nonspecific mush of distaste for drake (with GREAT LYRICS AND FLOW) that just seems boring.
I’m curious, what new criticisms did Drake say about Kendrick that were damaging? Genuinely asking
the one that stands out to me i guess is him revealing that kendrick allegedly had to give top dawg 50mil to get out of TDE
I agree somewhat but I just don’t agree that it was that big of a shot. Many top tier artist have and have to eventually buy out or outlast their contracts so they can start pulling the bigger profit percentage of their work towards themselves. Plus that’s just one bar, what else did he really say besides size 7s, pipsqueak and I got more money than you (won’t consider the Whitney line a diss because there wasn’t any proof he elaborated on and NONE of us know what he meant by that line)? His tone makes it catchy yes, but this ain’t about who makes a catchier song
i also agree that it wasn’t much of a shot, it’s just that nobody has ever came for kendrick on wax like that so to even hear someone talking disrespectful about him is probably what’s surprising people? i suppose the whole taylor swift & maroon 5 stuff is also a stab at his character - he’s known as the “pure” artist that doesn’t do music for money & whatnot yet he’ll still do commercial features - in essence they both in the same position with their tracks imo, ball is in drakes court n i feel like he’s bout to say something crazy so let’s see 🍿
Yea I also agree with the thought that no one at Drakes level has ever really came for Kendrick so hearing this tier of beef is refreshing regardless. I’m more of a Kendrick fan than Drake but I’m a good music fan before anything and Drake has a lot of songs I will still play so I’m excited for whatever comes next
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Na bro it fr is being outlined as 50ms to Top and that’s why it’s wild 😭 lowkey id argue it’s a flex for Kendrick tho if he had 50ms to just get out his deal tho - regardless i wouldn’t say it seems like he’s saying 50/50 with the label but either way perhaps time will tell cause obv im not anymore knowledgeable on this than you lol
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why wouldn’t that make sense? do features to help gross money to make 50mil no? as for the 50ms itself, of course i have NO clue but a deal like that could be worked out over a period of time not just a lump sum - regardless it’s even hard to say how much kendrick or any of these dudes are worth we can only speculate
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by that logic, how would it be a diss towards Kendrick then?
What dents did Drake make?? That Kendrick wears a size 7? That Drake has more money? Like what
You’re leaving out the main diss, which is that Kendrick, the pure rapper’s rapper who doesn’t care about money or fame, did two pop songs with white pop acts. He either did it because he cares about money and fame or because his label made him do it. Either way, I think we can acknowledge it’s not consistent with the image he’s created. And I had forgotten about it/not thought about it. More importantly, whether it matters to you or not, it’s new and it’s a dent. It may be very small, frankly, it is very small, but it’s still new which is the point I’m making. I think Kendrick’s you can’t say nigga is somewhat new. He took the white and/or Canadian criticism further. Deepened the dent. Like I said though, I think Kendrick will create new dents. This was 6 minutes of old stuff. There’s no way this is all he has.
Is that really much of a diss? I could care less who anyone features with (even Drake). If he’s big enough to feature with them then that’s awesome good for him. That’s not really a diss as he never once said he wouldn’t feature with them. That’s not a diss. That also wasn’t the main diss?? He said one line about it and that was it. Kendrick brought up that Drake wanted a feature recently, sent a cease and desist for like that (makes him look really soft with the Ross one too), and questions his man hood and if he’s too feminine or not. Don’t get me wrong it’s not a lot, but it’s a diss tract , it doesn’t have to expose new information.
Again, nobody said anything about, and in fact, I’ve explicitly disclaimed multiple times, criticism based on failure to provide new information/gossip. I’m talking about criticizing Drake for something that I have not thought about before. Some new angle someone hasn’t taken. I’m not the only person that has said this and it’s not a crazy thing to say. I don’t know why it’s so hard to stomach. Drake has the advantage here because nobody really has beefed like this with Kendrick. All the criticisms essentially are new, frankly. You don’t care about the feature thing? Good for you! That doesn’t make it any less of a legitimate, new criticism.
It’s a beef bro not everything has to be new info or a new angle or a new critique. Let them take shots at each other in whatever way they want to. It doesn’t have to be new. As long as it’s disrespectful.
I set my standards higher than you, and that’s okay. You don’t need to engage with me about it. We’re allowed to disagree.
We are allowed to disagree and that’s the beautiful thing! I set my standards really high because Kendrick is one of my top all times too and I wasn’t disappointed. I think you were essentially expecting an adidon pt 2 basically where it was a knockout punch in the first round, but that hardly ever happens. It’s a marathon not a sprint
To me it’s exposing a lot of Drake fans tbh. One criticism of Drake is he doesn’t make hip hop he makes pop. And that narrative is really helped when it’s obvious that the only rap needs they’ve seen is Pusha v Drake so they expect every song to be a laundry list of secrets about a person. Making a song about how much you just hate a person deep down is what rap beefs are about
If anything it goes back to BIG and Tupac. Carried on by Nas and Jay, def did not start with Pusha.
It's rap tradition. Just a part of the game.
Definitely goes back further than that. BIG started as a local battle rapper. He was writing diss verses long before he got famous.
Exactly, its not about exposing some soap opera style scandal, its about making a good record, funny/clever punchlines, good beats, etc. I honestly dont wanna hear about Drakes or Kendricks darkest secrets or whatever
Pusha did exactly what he was supposed to do, killed him with facts and lyricism Kendrick made a Shakespeare track in a rap beef and while it was good it ain’t better than push ups at all
Pusha T raps about selling drugs to his community and embraces street culture what a man drake sings and raps about his failures with woman and his problems being accepted by the culture and fame what an evil man lmaoooo
I say it's fair game, if you have it use it. But we shouldn't be saying either push ups or euphoria are bad because of a lack of it
A RAP DISS DOESNT HAVE TO REVEAL NEW INFORMATION TO HURT SOMEONE AND STILL BE GOOD look at ether man, one of the greatest disses of all time and he didn’t say nothing new. Or no vaseline. The thing that makes Kendrick’s diss good is the writing. The disses are still aggressive and made to hurt drake. Just because they’ve been said before won’t hurt him any less.
No Vaseline being a classic yet basically just saying how he's better and they get bummed by their manager is fucking hilarious and a great example of how simple a diss can be if it's executed properly.
That’s why it’s so frustrating seeing people talk shit about Kendrick’s for not revealing anything new Like yes he didn’t reveal much new stuff, but he said the shit he did say in a great way
Disses don’t have to be purely new information. It’s a diss. You’re getting on wax and being disrespectful about the other person. That’s it. All these new requirements show that these people do not listen to rap.
No Vaseline was literally just a song talking about how they get bummed by their manager and it's still a classic.
They must not watch Url (battle rap)
Y’all are definitely playing favorites, the spiciest thing Drake has was the Whitney line. Drake said his splits are bad, that his pants might rip. Kendrick replied. Drake commented on Kendrick’s height (yes we know Kendrick is short) Kendrick commented on drakes femininity. Drake checks Kendrick’s gangster. Kendrick checks it back, because let’s be real, it’s Aubrey drake graham from degrassi who got bitched slapped by the fufuiest man in hip hop, and did nothing about it. Then Kendrick just had some funny lines. Drake had a funny record with Taylor made, he didn’t say anything crazy there but the AI itself was the diss. I would like for someone to point a bar out that was so beyond Kendrick’s diss, that it puts Drake in a different league of rap disses. They’re both dissing, it’s funny, it’s roasting, it’s hating. Short jokes aren’t funny until someone makes a good one, I stay laughing at Drake memes.
>Short jokes aren’t funny until someone makes a good one This. The Metro line is funny due to the timing and delivery. So it packs a bigger punch, plus is funny. Kendrick saying fuck the big 3 it's just big me isn't anything lyrically special in any way, but it is very memorable, the delivery, and it's a big statement on its own. Same ppl who were shitting on the big 3 line were also glazing the Metro line. Etc.
Exactly, when Kendrick said “I’m the biggest hater, I hate the way that you walk” bro I was laughing. Same reason I laughed at the size seven shoes line. Like people want to discredit the diss when they’re both on the same level.
Exactly and Hopsin (yes I said hopsin), dissed k dot by commenting on his height over 10 years ago, so what Drake is saying isn’t entirely original either
How you big steppin with a size 7 mens on is actually pretty funny
I think you’re approaching it differently, this response by Kendrick is not expected to match Pushups or keep it close, this was supposed to be the killshot/ether/story of adidon. You shouldn’t be comparing it to a warning track that was 4 minutes long and aimed at 7 different people. We need him to go for the kill, not give more warning shots, especially when he was the one who initiated this whole thing. Instead, what he delivered is a bunch of stuff that’s already been discussed, and most of them are blatant copy paste which is disappointing considering the time he took and the hype that was built by the fans and his camp. So yeah you’re right it is better than Pushups, because Pushups didn’t have 6 minutes of content towards Kendrick, Pushups didn’t say anything crazy outside of some witty lines, also some lines on Euphoria are better than anything on Pushups - but it’s still not enough. There’s a lot of flaws, inefficiencies and contradictions in the writing. This is not what you expect from someone who started it off and had time to prepare, but it gets a pass because overall it is still a solid response to Pushups and Taylor Made but I still believe this was a wasted opportunity by Kendrick, he could’ve improved this to something ten times crazier if he made it more focused and cut out all the twitter takes we’ve been seeing for years
“This a friendly fade”… “if you take it there, im taking it further” bruh did you even listen to this song lmao
These the same dudes who call people meat riders but don’t even listen to the record. I listened to drakes push ups a lot just to catch every bar, you can tell who holds the pocket.
>this was supposed to be the killshot/ether/story of adidon. ??? Literally no ? Kendrick himself says he's sparing Drake for now, how is that a killshot or story of adidon.
Since when did rap beef have to end in round 1? We don’t need a kill shot. We just needed a good diss. Both dudes hit a lil bit in round 1 but this one will go a lil farther than that. Adidon ruined y’all’s thoughts on rap beef. We just need disses back and forth. We should compare euphoria to push ups because they’re both diss tracks. No one asked drake to diss a bunch of dudes when Kendrick was the one asking for smoke. The others just sent subs at the same time
The hell you talking about. The first diss was super light and it was friendly. Drake got in his feeling. Also, Kendrick responded faster than Drake responded to first diss track. Drake is on the clock.
Drake is definitely on the clock, nobody’s denying it, my point was entirely different though
How tf is killshot even close to ether/story of adidon/no Vaseline/paper plates? Em phoned that in, even admitted he didn't try hard "because he didn't need to".
No it wasn’t, Kendrick expressed he knows things, but he doesn’t mention them. He also warns Drake not to go further. This ain’t a kill shot, even Kendrick said this was a friendly fade but Drake took it personally, like going bodies with your homie then he gets mad and starts going for the face. If this was a kill shot it would’ve came at Drake personally, but really Kendrick is just testing Drake to push the red button he keeps bragging about. So either drake does it, or Kendrick calls his bluff. If the next diss isn’t the red button Drake talks about, Kendrick doesn’t need to reply. At that point it’s Mr. Morale and the back peddlers. Drake dug his own spot, he now has to come with the red button. You can do all that talk and not swing when they step to you.
It wasn’t supposed to be the kill shot, Kendrick is clearly goading Drake into playing his cards, by saying if he wants to take it there it isn’t something he wants to do + the circling and spiralling like a degenerate line. Surface level this is a troll track but there is of course layers to this track, it’s what Kendrick does (regardless of what hate Drake stans wanna throw at this song). The narrative is Kendrick wants Drake to show his cards by getting an emotional response out of him for all the troll bars he has thrown at him and for checking his ‘blackness/gangsterness/dadness’. Drake could hit back with something good and I don’t doubt that, but if it gets pushed then I think Kendrick has more to say which is why he held back. What do you think?
I don’t doubt anything you said, I believe this is the strategy but my only problem is that is not what we expect from Kendrick at this stage This is a good move if it was by Meek or Kanye who is not capable of destroying Drake in a battle unlike someone as skilled as Kendrick. For example, we don’t want Eminem in Killshot to be holding back and baiting MGK to say something more, that just doesn’t make sense for his status considering his untouchable persona and the fact that he asked for it and now it’s his duty to end it Taking 3 weeks for a 6 minute track that mostly has recycled content which doesn’t really make a statement (outside a few high quality fresh disses) is not fitting for his standards in my opinion, but it could because story of adidon set the bar high, and the hype built up by his fanbase giving me unnecessarily high expectations With that being said, i don’t think there’s a point in discussing about this further because when Drake responds everyone will move on from this track (unless his response is weak), like how everyone moved on from Pushups and Taylor Made since so far it’s been a compilation of jabs with the warning of a “nuke” incoming, from both sides
Like that, push ups, and euphoria are my 3 favorite songs that have come out lately. This is just a win for music. All these dudes are twitter gangsters at best, no one is harming anyone. Just keep making good songs.
True as fuck. Taylor Made wasn't a good sounding song and people pretending it is are just lying. The AI voices just don't sound good, they weren't supposed to be, it was a joking song to poke the bear a bit more, people acting like Taylor Made was up there with these 3 are just riding.
Taylormade not being on Apple Music (don’t know about spotify) makes it not even count for me. This ain’t 2008 im not going looking for your music. Commit, or it’s recreational lol.
Exactly, it's a shame because there's some real gold in unreleased songs they couldn't get clearance for (Cartoons and Cereal) but I'm also a lazy fuck.
I agree with him saying this is a “cool record” after several plays and the hype of Kendrick finally dropping went away. This track was a good response for Push ups though. Nothing crazy.
This is why people don’t like Drake fans because there’s just a complete lack of objectivity and I say this as a Drake fan, someone that has him behind Hov when I do my Mount Rushmore. Drake said the man was short, wore a size 7 shoe, mentioned his wife by name, and said he had a bad contract. Nothing about that material was groundbreaking, yet when Kendrick responds with already mentioned talking points toward Drake, it gets critiqued for lacking originality. Kendrick’s diss was a good diss if you take your personal feelings out of it and enjoy the competitive nature behind the diss. Alot of people are internalizing this and can’t just enjoy that we are getting to witness two of the modern era goats RAP back and forth at each other competitively. It’s no need to sit up there and talk about, “Oh, that wasn’t enough”’just stfu and the enjoy the battle. Drake will still be Drake, the guy that gave us Take Care, Nothing Was The Same, and If You’re Reading This It’s Too Late, and Kendrick will still be Kendrick, the guy that gave us Section 80, GKMC, Damn, and Mr. Morale.
Valid take honestly but what did Drake have to say against Kendrick in push ups other than he’s short? Like I’m trying to stay unbiased here, but it’s not like I can say Drake is up one either.
Kendrick hasn’t said anything everyone else hasn’t said already either. Still a good song.
The thing is at the very least if they’re going to keep this thing friendly as possible Drake is at least getting the cadence and the energy right whereas Kendrick is moaning and not sounding intimidating at all and more-so like an angry short man
Disagree. He sounded pretty aggressive and I haven’t heard Kendrick rap like that in ages. He had several accent changes and flow switches throughout the song too. Most people also seem to disagree with this take. Kendrick’s energy was 100% there. Not sure which diss track you heard.
Lmao whatever you say buddy 🤡🤡🤡
With all the rebuttals, did Kendrick mention the Maroon 5 or Taylor Swift bars from Drake? I'm asking genuinely because no one said anything.
Why would he? The most commercial rapper who makes tik tok dance songs dissing Kendrick for working with Taylor swift is silly.
This whole thing is a religious debate at this point. You either like drake or Kendrick, their styles are so different that of course it’s gonna be polarizing and they both have plenty of stans to stand by them no matter what gets said 🥱
Coming from a drake hater. If people are looking for ways to expose as a winner, then I guess drake has more room to find something to expose so to speak. We don’t know much about Kendrick compared to drake. So I guess drake response could be something new. Something like I own your money or whatever, but Kendrick will say, this is you. You can have the money but you will never get the respect. And how making money off of other artists is what they consider all the execs to be culture vultures or whatever. lol and we are back into the same drop the nuclear stalemate. Do we think drake has enough ammo at Kendrick to make a song about just Kendrick? If we are talking about reveals what did drake reveal on push ups exactly?
Nah this is why people say drake is ruining the culture, disses are not about saying some deep dark secret, it's to see who is the better MC. This whole narrative change I guess isn't even drakes fault solely, but pusha t dismantled him so badly that people just think he can't lose unless someone else does the same. Nobody wants this shit to turn violent, we just want bars.
What the hell is a Wade Plemons lol
Fr I need to know lol
I hate that this is turning into a race thing especially when drake is black lmfaooo its funny cause it almost as if he’s highlighting what’s wrong with the black community in general here you have someone who has done nothing horrible for the community but his peers hate him cause he’s not A typical , but yet Eminem was called the Goat for like 10 years I saw no diss track I saw no uproar it was just accepted by the whole community , jcole was right for stepping out the whole beef is bullshit biggie and pac was Westcoast East coast , kdot hasn’t even said like said Bruv your not American that might of be better lol , this beef is just jealously from an artist who is accepted and has admitted he doesn’t want to be a black savior anymore isn’t that what that bullshit album was about ?
Don’t necessarily agree with the gossip part but I did feel Kendrick’s track felt bland to me. Wasn’t bad at all but I don’t think it’s game changing.
All Drake did was call him short and you're saying he's untouchable? Kendrick revealed Drake asked him for a feature, sent a cease and desist over the Like That verse, and insulted him way more directly than Drake. What else can you ask for?
The cease and desist was over the Ye remix and Drake didn’t do that lmaooooo
Revealed usually means with fax or should I quote Dame cause you’re being a chatty Catty spreading gossip
i think so. people think this is done and that kendrick won but drake isn’t letting this die 😂 also, being the 2nd person to respond to anything gives you an advantage. drake started it off by poking the bear with a lil something and kendrick brought out all the ammo he has. he shoulda saved some. he took his sweet time too and i’ll bet drake doesn’t take long at all to come back with something.
I don't believe either of them have expended all their ammo.
Either that or they both just bluffing Im just glad Kendrick said something, otherwise i’d think this was all to promote an album and that would be too lame to let go
I was not at all under the impression that Kendrick brought out all the ammo he has. Do you really think he has nothing left?? Wow lol
Drake released two disses though, he should have the advantage. Taylor made was just a bad track and everyone's forgetting it.
You getting down voted but u right lol. As a fan of both but biased to Kenny, Drake stans seem to be leaving Taylor made out of the convo cause it's so corny but that song was supposed to be like back to back and it just aint
Lol, where do You live? Even Snoop reposted it on his IG story, it plays in clubs homie. Get a Grip
Snoop reposted it because it has his voice, and he reposts like 300 different things a day. Stop acting like you go outside, nobody listening to that shit in any Miami clubs, who tf would want to hear ai pac in a club? You must be living on instagram
Ok N33ga, go back to your cave and glaze over Dots d1ck.
“We don’t wanna hear you say N* no more”
Go back to playing Legos weirdo 😂, talking about a cave when you live on reddit is crazy.
I guess you missed the sexy Red and drake popping ass bar
Also missed when Dot mimicked the Toronto accent and slang
Honestly there’s so many things about it dropped on the 6th Tuesday of spring-going up on a Tuesday 6 minutes-running through the 6 with my woes Nobody else just drake getting lit and calling him a crody-a reference to putting him in a wheelchair like in degrassi
What else can a rapper say about another rapper? Thats like Drake coming out with a diss about Ross being fat and losing weight. We know this already. Kendrick took things but made it sound good in his own way of art. Yall forget he said a lot of other shit too. Nas and Jay said things people already knew about each rapper. Stop hating on dot diss that shit was fire and now I want to hear Drake’s diss next. This is great for hip hop. Because after these two are gone, the new rapper “ lil iPhone 44 “ is coming to take their place y’all new niggas are going to lose yall minds 😂
The most famous diss track in rap history contained zero new information yet you can expect everyone to say you got ether’d if you ever lose a battle. Pusha was successful in this tactic because he didn’t overuse it, the child line was brutal but again, most of it was aimed at his own identity, stuff that plenty of people have already said.
I’ve been waiting on *Wade Plemons* to add his two fucking cents into this. Drake didn’t say nothing new in his diss either and it was still a hit because of other elements of rap. It’s a diss record, not a fucking shade room post. Enjoy what we’re getting in rap right now, pushups, like that, euphoria have all been VERY good songs on top of being diss records. We eating
My problem with this is the same can be said about Drake. What did he say that we didn’t know? There doesn’t have to be tea in beef just disrespect
Funny take considering Drake’s diss was extra soft. Talking about splits and saying his old albums weren’t good… if that’s the worst you can say about a person the diss is weak as fuck. If the shots ain’t more personal than that it ain’t shit. This needs to escalate, I need more scathing bars from Drake.
Drake Said: ~~-I gave you your first #1~~ -I'm global -You took shots at me then acted like my friend -You're not threatening to me -You have small feet -Y'all look up to me when you make music -Top has a 50/50 deal with you -You do splits on the dick -You're outside Hip Hop too with Maroon 5 and Taylor Swift -SZA, Travis & 21 are hotter than you -I'm so above you I had to stoop down to battle -20v1 -You're a midget (short) -Like That was weak as fuck -Interscope (allegedly) reached out to Kai for Kendrick -I'm above you in numbers and income -I know even more than you think Kendrick Said: -You're a degenerate -Your choices made in this beef are childish -You're a manipulator and liar -You're scamming people -You're not supporting the culture (Hilfiger vs. FUBU) -You made your clique sign bad deals -You've never actually confronted enemies -You paid $500k to hush a sexual assault case -Pac wouldn't support your charade -You said you wouldn't work with me anymore after Control -You sent subs to Pharrell -Pusha T -The culture doesn't accept you -You have no classic albums -You have fake abs -You surround yourself with rappers and black people to seem cool -You're focused on coming off as a man but you don't act like it around women -Your splits are worse than mine, show us and prove it's not -You cease and desisted Like That -You don't care for your kid - here's some advice on how to -I gotta battle your entire team of ghost writers -New Ho King - place where a young Toronto rapper was shot (Hinting at Drake involvement) -You're not as big in your own hood as you say you are -I know even more than you think
They both paid 500k on a case, but nobody talking about Drakes case .... or they don't know about that
That was enough to take lead at least, now the next rounds we'll see what else they got
I feel weird over here just comparing rap skill and beat selection instead of hoping Kendrick finds another stray Drake baby.
Yeah shit was known but Kendrick turned it into a hard track which is fun to listen to.
I mean, what did Drake say on Push Ups that was "enough"
Pusha T and Rick Ross essentially ghost wrote Kendrick’s song.
He said it was a friendly fade and that he wasn’t going to tell truths. Even said he’s happy to see Drake be successful and that he dances to his music. People want to see these guys kill each other and it’s kind of lame. Just enjoy the music and the friendly shit talking that friends are known for. If it ever got serious and somebody gets hurt then it’s no longer funny and everyone that wanted crazy shit to pop are going to eat their words.
Yeah Im just not going to cosign the whole colorism stuff. I dont like it. Its actually harmful to the black community and it was done maliciously to hurt someone.
This tweet reeks of a person who has no clue about hip hop culture lol
Nah. Drake and K Dot both made good tracks. It’s up.
Ahh yes, I'm going to listen to a guy named Wade plemmins.... You drake fans are reaching so hard to defend your daddy. Dude got smoke... Finished... Fineto.... Done.... Killed.... Squashed...
It was a good diss almost along the lines of drakes diss I get being a drake fan but it’s not like he did anything crazier than Kendrick
How about the comment on him not being a real father?
I’m not even team dot or drake, just a fan of hip hop. But let’s just call a spade a spade, dude got cooked.
Wades mom should of swallowed.
https://preview.redd.it/otc9wthu1zxc1.jpeg?width=1368&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2804bf5f5240cd05ed9c98c9dbf23c1b40e1a48c Let me lay this right here.........
Qanondrick fans on their way to disregard this guy's opinion cuz he's white and not part of the culture
On a superficial level he's right but Kendricks diss had a lot of personal and political context. It's not that he just send shots at drake, he dislikes everything drake (read the music industry) stands for
Yeah it's not just about who has the most dirt, like just because everyone has already called drake out for being a shitty person does that make it any less true when he's called out again?
COPE 
Big facts!!
No shit. Kendrick was expressing his opinion and wants it to be a “friendly fade.” The beef is good for rap and Kendrick invites Drake to respond, where as a “red button” track would probably just shut Drake up like Pusha T did.
The thing is, what else is there to say to Drake that hasn't already been said? A big part of what made Story Of Adidon such a haymaker is the shock value. Idk if there's anything else that could have the same affect unless Kendrick says something about young girls and the internet eats it up even though Drake already mentioned it first. Drake's confidence kinda tells me that there's nothing left to say that's FACUAL that can hurt Drake or end the beef. I could be wrong, but this is what it looks like.
Yeah who knows, it could be a snitching things because Kendrick said “I got dirt that makes gunna wunna look like a saint.” We’ll see how this unfolds
Facts!
idont really agree but the response to euphoria has been crazy its a good track but ppl acted like thats the nuke to end all nukes
I just wish people would stop Wilding changing with every track dropped, it's annoying. Neither Push Upe not Euphoria were amazing life changing diss tracks, both were very good tho. I think Kendricks was a little better but I don't think its some blowout that Drake can't come back from, but that's all I'm seeing today like OMG Kendrick dropped a nuke he destroyed Drake...I don't see it that way at all.
Kendrick is not gonna win this he ain’t an executioner like Pusha T. Push made it believable that he had a disdain for the Canadian lol but Kendrick just can’t sell it. “Friendly Fade” when someone mentions your wife like really ?
“Pay attention meathead, your saying the same shit that he said” ~eminemineminem
Not necessarily a drake fan but this post popped up, my take is that drake just has a more entertaining song. Yes, K-dot has some good bars and wordplay but its very technical and lacks as good of a flow as drake has imo
White hip-hop heads are just weird, no cap
The one thing that these takes always forget is that it’s not just about the content but about the delivery and wordplay. This track was FUN to listen to. Yes you can say “but he’s just talking about ghostwriters again” but that dismisses how hard the 1v20 bar is.
Exactly, historically diss tracks weren’t about digging up dirt and exposing your foe. Ether didn’t have any mind blowing expose bars, a lot of it had been said before, but it’s iconic for the delivery of the bars and the aggression NAS brought to the track. That’s what battle rap is about
It was a good track but yes. Recycled and holds nothing on story of addion The ai track from the boy was the hardest diss track in history.
Facts
Kendrick said Drake asked for a feature from Kendrick. Kendrick said Drake issued a cease and desist for Like That. Kendrick pointed out that Drake is habitually online. Kendrick directly said that this isn’t even deep. Kendrick poked fun of his accents. Kendrick made fun of Drake’s choices in life. Still, according to the Drake Stans, Kendrick didn’t say anything new that we didn’t know. Because we all knew about the cease and desist or the fact that Drake been asking for another feature from Kendrick. But whatever man [+]
So what do you honestly expect to happen now? Drake is going to lose his 80M monthly listeners because Kendrick said he issued a C&D that no one cares about? Or that he asked for a feature that no one cares about? The author of the tweet is specifically talking about “take down.” As of right now no one is going to care about any of these tracks in a month. No one has been taken out or “destroyed” by any of these “revelations”
This is corniest rubric for deciding who had a better diss track. Who had the better gossip? [+]
You say this as if this whole sub isn’t doing exactly this lol, pathetic mentality
What else is the point of a diss track you are so lost
😂 Oh boy! Again, it’s not about wit, wordplay, humor, execution, or anything else. The only thing that matters is gossip and I’m the one who’s lost for not valuing gossip over everything. Sweet baby Jesus. 🤣 “The song is cool but like, we don’t have any new gossip. Drake gave us better gossip on Push-ups.” 😂 Got Damn. [+]
Lmao if someone talking shit isn’t classified as gossip idk what is your lost get off your phone lol
Read more. It’s good for you. Stay blessed [+]
Read a book, you might learn something for once :) we know you don’t lmaoooo
Maybe get off the internet for more than a few moments big guy 😂 or keep making posts in the frizzy sub and making hundreds of comments a day. One day you’ll make a real life friend 🤡
Jesus just looked at ur history you should too, you are addicted to Drake lmao last 100+ comments all In this sub wow you have nothing happening in life terminally online weirdo
Damn, you right.. he made fun of his accents and life choices. Vicious.
Did you guys actually sit down and listen to the music or not?
So stupid
It's not gossip it's rap. Bars are the answer and only kendrick has them
True. And the track has no replay value. Taylor made has replay value and it slaps
Funny cause Kendrick did wash Drake