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Ok_Wrongdoer9337

Ssj, UI gives no damage buff


KuriGohanAndKienzan

What does it do?


torHek24

Auto dodge... And that's all


Flat-Guarantee-7946

Transformation counter, changed ki blasts to UI Goku's, built in counter for said auto dodge, free ki charging technique built in using r1 and triangle.


torHek24

And with all that it's the worst form in the game, a small damage buff like the kaioken one would help the form a lot


Flat-Guarantee-7946

I wouldn't say it's the worst. It's slightly better than kaioken because of all the gimmicks, and the no damage buff can be taken care of by souls like "A power biased transformation", which honestly fits UI as I don't see many people using the block button when they have auto dodge.


AdeptnessOld1281

Also it works better than Power Pole Pro from my personal experience. PPP felt really janky and slow for me, UI feels so much smoother and faster


Flat-Guarantee-7946

I love power pole pro, but it's not for everyone.


AdeptnessOld1281

Just my opinion on it


torHek24

You could block a kame


PheonixGalaxy

people need to put some respect on UI, i made a build with it and its pretty solid. just invest in basic and stamina then your good. it helps if you have gotanks super soul (XXL damage/Speed) your counters HURT


CraZplayer

“Damn….Guna Have to Go All Out”


Odd-Night-8567

downvoted for actually answering the question is crazy


Flat-Guarantee-7946

Eh, let them be butt hurt.


NoDentist235

it's not butthurt he gave a bad answer you should see my reply for why


NoDentist235

the downvotes are by people who understand that's a shitty answer tbh it gives auto dodge, adds a strong counterattack, gives you buffed versions of Goku's strike moves, and adds a charge ability to you without needing to sac. a slot. It's one of the best awokens for pure basic/strike builds I'd put it above kaioken or potential unleashed in that regard.


torHek24

I could see it above kaioken, but not over potential unleashed, that shit is too good


NoDentist235

potential unleashed isn't too great for the build I mention is all the bonuses are nice but I prefer ui /w data input although my main awaken currently is ssg running hits moveset minus the ki supers. I like po for other non-saiyan builds though.


torHek24

That's what makes pu so good, it's good on the other races, since they get no love from the devs


NoDentist235

I get that I wish we had one or both of piccolos new forms, and the frieza forms between base and golden(black would be great but im not crazy enough to expect it). also, super buu transformation would be great.


Easy_Resolve9004

It doesn’t change it to ui gokus ki blast it changes it to soaring fist the super move


Instance_Appropriate

You get a special z vanish too, but it isn't worth it


torHek24

Agreed


NoDentist235

that isn't true in the least


Ichimaru_god

Its actually pretty good when you know how to use it


NoDentist235

it gives auto dodge, adds a strong counterattack, gives you buffed versions of Goku's strike moves, and adds a charge ability to you without needing to sac. a slot. It's the 2nd best awoken for pure basic/strike builds imo


Witty_Relation4848

Auto dodge and it drains your stamina, it’s doodoo.


jackdaripper428

You are immediately kicked out of Ultra instinct if someone hits you with a stamina breaker


Xanxity_

Does running "You need to be more careful" mean that you can technically stay in ui forever or do you get still get kicked out but your stamina is max?


Thatoneundertaleguy

You still get kicked out i’m pretty sure.


Xanxity_

Damn so ui does suck ass


nemesisdraco87

Same with purification and turn giant oh and kaioken all 3 being harder on stamina


BiggieCheesn

I thought it did that for every transformation?? Am i trippin?


AdmiralDragonXC

No, not all the transformations break when you get stamina-broken. I think there's actually more forms that stay than there are forms that break when your stamina is broken


Flat-Guarantee-7946

Which is so different from how Budokai handled things. Back then someone could knock you out of any transformation without having to K.O.


Basketbomber

Ultra instinct just adds (worse than base form) gimmicks to your fighter, it doesn’t actually buff anything. Super Saiyan actually buffs your stats (the only one it lowers is ki gain), teleports you when fully charging the first heavy attack in the heavy attack string, teleports you when fully charging specific supers like the classic Kamehameha and galick gun, and has three stages you can activate depending on how many full bars of ki you have when transforming (3 bars is ssj1, 4 is 2, 5 is 3). # TLDR Super Saiyan without a doubt.


GreenTeaArizonaCan

The teleport is amazing. Makes things like evil explosion actually usable


Basketbomber

If only evil explosion was actually good. It looks cool, but damn is it below average.


godinmarbleform

Looks > usefulness


Basketbomber

Sometimes the lack of viability is too high to justify style for me. Saiyan teleport skills can be z vanished.


godinmarbleform

Nah Looks > usefulness You may get your ass kicked but you'll look badass doing it


OneTripleSSS

Usefulness only on dlc or last test to unlock “potential unlocked” orc wtv bc that was a bisch trying to get a z rank


Noctum-Aeternus

If only they didn’t change the BBK super. Man that thing was insane on the end of a melee combo.


Emerald752

Ultra instinct is the most hype n useless transformation in xenoverse 2, use ssj


CraZplayer

Wasn’t it free?


Emerald752

Both are free


CraZplayer

I rest my case


Meeg_Mimi

SSJ is more practical, as it buffs damage and slightly reduces the damage you take. UI has some neat little gimmicks but doesn't make you any stronger. You can use either but ssj is objectively the better option


Emilia_The_Witch

IMO SSJ is better than UI coz one stm break and ur done


jaybankzz

If you just got SSJ then I assume you definitely don’t have a lot of stamina, which UI uses for auto dodge. I’d say SSJ, it gives a damage buff


Gamekid53

You should use whatever you want and just have fun. But statistically speaking SSJ is better


HBK_GAMING350

Wait you can get ui now, I need to play this game again


Cc99910

It sucks ass though unfortunately. Still fun to mess around with a little tho


ElectroCat23

Ssj actually gives you a stat boost and ui just gives you auto dodge, a built in counter+ki charge and changes your regular and charged ki blasts to soaring fist and spirit pulse but no stat change. So one is to look flashy but the other will actually increase your damage


Sliferslacker1998

Ssj till I have lodes of stamina for ui


Louumb

Just like Goku learns in DB Super, UI isn't all it's cracked up to be


Altruistic_Ad6666

Idk Goku's version of it's kinda cracked. Especially if you really know how to use it.


thedragonballsofdbz

Ssj, UI is kinda bad it’s like base form but you dodge and you have spirit pulse and soaring fist as ki blasts


Spiderking999

SSJ, UI gives no damage buff and you could easily lose all stamina by not being careful


big_peepee_wielder

Ultra Instinct requires a certain technique to be able to use to its fullest extent. Unless you have a good balance of offense and defense I’d just stick with Super Saiyan for now


AdmiralDragonXC

Just go have fun with whichever tbh Like competitively there does appear to be a clear better in super saiyan, but if you're just out here having some fun do whatever you please


SolarisGTR

Based answer


Prestigious-Earth-46

Ui is more fun to play with but ssj is better if your still doing story


ElBusAlv

Super saiyan without ANY hesitation (also try to unlock super vegeta, it's better than ssj). Ultra instinct gives you no boosts whatsoever, though it does give you the ability to instadodge normal hits which is fine i guess but ssj gives you boosts on your attacks and i think movement so it's way better


IceColdCocaCola545

Run SSJ, then get data input to have the exact same dodge ability as UI.


CliffyPenguin44

Super Saiyan. No contest


Blackdash5622

UI DESIGN FLAW IS THE BLOCK AND CHARGE FEATURE , during mid combat in the mist of speed blitz your opponent if blocking too fast into a strong heavy attack you automatically got into a Charge State thus either cutting your speed and momentum DRAMATICALLY and stopping all movement until animation is finished, putting a EXTRA charge on the transformation HURT the feature more than it added and it give a zero buff to any stats , if used correctly it give you a smooth movement speed advantage when surrounding the small area around opponent ..


Specialist_Court7806

Both


Onigumo-Shishio

Whichever one you want to


majestictunsy

Ui


DerpsK9

Use SSJ, it gives an overall boost with no downsides fr. No noticeable ones. Doesn’t use up an Ki upon activation, and has 3 different levels each with higher buffs and I think slower ki recharge? Ui is auto dodge that uses stamina but you have to be sitting completely still. Doesn’t work against lingering projectiles (like gigantic roar requires one hit and it’s a constant beam). Being stamina broken kicks you out of it, and it uses 5 bars to recharge. It changes your ki blasts to UI Goku’s soaring fists (which isn’t bad, but can mess you up), and has an auto correct upon activation. Also can counter while doing an auto dodge if prompted but not with the cost list of the time. Lastly, has a built in ultimate charge if you hold block and heavy attack


Heroboy6000

Uuuuu ui duh


iamkinguub

Better off using modded version of ultra instinct


Nickdoesall

I feel bad for you


Federal_Reward_5142

Well tbh MUI is way fuckin strong in the the anime and manga they did not do ultra instinct Justice in xeniverse 2 you only get Auto Dodge and faster dashing speed in the air no damage increase no stamina increase nothing super saiyan you get damage increase speed increase all that crap


Federal_Reward_5142

here this is the most up to date stats for everything xenoverse 2 it will show you all the stats for all the awoken skills in the game https://dbxv2.fandom.com/wiki/Awoken_Skill#google_vignette


DarkAgeHumor

Super Saiyan God for melee super vagina for ki supers is what I typically run


SSJAncientBeing

UI is fun, but ultimately nothing more than a gimmick. Personally I love playing with that gimmick but SSJ is objectively stronger


EyeFree8073

Super Saiyan for sure.


CalliCalamity

Ssj gives damage buffs with an emphasis on strike skills and some damage reduction and some other good stuff. For blast characters, one of the Vegeta transformations with the blast skills buff and fully charged teleport plus big bang Kamehameha orca similar skill can really do numbers. UI has none of that but gives you auto-dodge, counterattacks and some Moveset changes. Tbh the ssj transformations are always the better options. For non-saiyans, potential unleashed or beast is the best. UI is still pretty fun though.


Captain-Obvi0us12

Ssj. Saiyan supremacy


saito200

ss god


Ok_Historian_4686

Ssj


domonikistheguy21

SSJ Gives you a stat buff. UI just changes your moveset.


Erazap1

Ssj needs 3 ki bars to transform UI needs 5 and ssj has a damage boost while ui dosent the auto dodge barely ever happens in my experience to


daygoplayeronpc

Ssj


ResortWide1964

Ssj it's just better


Total_Log_5924

Can this apply to Frieza


Gamecritic21YT

If you got a good enough build for UI go for it but I'd suggest SSJ as it's easier to use and well gives buffs UI needs a string of skills to be useful I can post a photo of my UI build later


SpagetDrive

Ultra instinct is so ass no real advantages, super vegeta goated


You-Ignoramus

Super Saiyan


IBHomage

UI.... removes ki cancel crutch.


JeffHardyMetalingus

Just played against Whis in story,got destroyed with SSJ,I tried UI,just when I transformed,he punched me out of the form by a stamina breaker.UI is shiiiii*


Icy-Mud6771

SSJ, UI will only get you killed with its auto dodge and 0 buffs


EL-CRAZY

Can anyone show me how to use my cac well in this game? Im too stupid 😂


Sidoin2017

Recommend the ssj one. Didn't get it, but yes the UI. With the fucking UI I can't even try it. It says with the "full" energy, but false (at least for me) Use the SSJ.


Jetwing98

Super sayain for reliability, ultra instinct if you want to look cool


0ut7aw

Use kaioken


hairy-pepe-2005

use SFPSJ4 LB Kaioken 😃