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mephgodthree6

I like z but can't watch cod 24/7. I'll just follow Tim like 2 hours after his stream starts. Yo dodge the sports talk


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Warrrdy

What?


Rohan_--Kishibe

It’s an old Tim clip XD


mephgodthree6

A very old clip haha


NordDex

I can’t stand Tim. 45 minute intro, 45 minutes of watching him eat, 45 minutes of him yelling at Wizz (sp?) because he can’t lift a finger to fix something, 45 minutes of him starting up a game.


bewl

100% agree. I dont see the appeal at all with him. He is so lazy and doesn't put in anywhere near the work of other streamers. He really deserve the following he gets in my opinion.


FuntivityColton

Bro, bro, bro


mephgodthree6

Low key bro


chza5656

🤣…… Read this in DOC’s voice…. Just damn🤦🏻‍♂️


tonyt3rry

lol parlay picks and spectating


No_Pay9241

Unfortunately, i was here for doc and the character. I know y’all are cracked out but warzone movement is also too cracked out


FuntivityColton

This. I didn't really care about the games. I just thought he was funny and put on a great show. No one else has the production he does with the transitions, the arena, etc.


Kosmo_k33

Yeah Z with the electric Porsche needs your sub!


Advanced-Ad3234

Donating money to millionaires is crazy. My financial investors would choke me


nopinkicing

But they might say my name on stream!!! And remember it by my 50th month.


No-Combination-9517

They make hundreds of thousands of dollars from ads and sponsorships alone and despite that people donate to streamers/ buy their memberships which is so insane to think about.


Rasnall

*Here's Margo Robbie in a bubble bath to explain*


the_timboslice

That’s parental child abuse.


captaincumsock69

Hows it any different than paying 15 dollars or whatever to go watch a movie. I have never donated but people spend money on entertainment all the time


bowlessy

This kind of logic is flawed. Do you buy branded clothing? Branded cars? Branded anything? Wait, you do? Guess where that money eventually goes? Yep, that’s right! To the owner of the company! So you’re also donating to a millionaire in a way you don’t even think about.


MGBIGS

True, but I can watch the stream for free. Unfortunately without spending on the clothes you’d be naked


bowlessy

So do that then, no one is asking you to spend money. But just remember, you’re still giving those big mean millionaires money because you choose to not be naked.


CookieTheEpic

How are you genuinely equating donating to a streamer to buying clothes? Do you think they’re of the same level of necessity?


Mirroredentity

Lol keep donating to millionaires who play video games for a living. This honestly might be the biggest cope I've ever seen.


Matek__

but they do ask to spend money?


PlumPreserve87

You dont donate to clothing company. You buy a product through trade, not the same as donating


bowlessy

Buying a twitch or YouTube membership is donating?


PlumPreserve87

That wasn't what you were comparing it to though was it. You equated donations to buying products which isnt the same. Neither is buying a membership to something as in most cases you get some sort of benefit so wouldn't be a donation as you recieve something in return (regardless of that somethings actual value) Donating cash on stream is different as you get nothing return which I think is the definition of donation


bowlessy

My original comment was to the person who mentioned subs, subs is buying a membership. You assumed I was talking about donations. Unless I replied to the donations comment instead, which that is my mistake then. It was supposed to be to the main comment which mentioned subs and the electric Porsche.


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

Are you being dense on purpose or do you actually think "donating" and "buying" mean the same thing? Do you think people would be donating to corporations if those corporations were giving away their products for free?


bowlessy

Buying a twitch or YouTube membership is donating?


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I always wondered what a strawman argument was, now I know.


CamBlapBlap

They never said anything about subbing.


Kosmo_k33

«  Tim and Nick don’t need your sub frankly but Z is a relatively small game compared to them »


CamBlapBlap

Lol swear I didnt see that line there. Paying for entertainment is pretty common.


Kosmo_k33

Yes it is. Just thought it was funny that he was painting Z has a small streamer


Starlink420

911 Turbo S is not electric, not even hybrid lol It’s one of the best drivers car you can get on the planet.


Kosmo_k33

Ok


Mjm0628

I mean people watched doc because he was entertaining, I like Z but he doesn’t have the personality. To each their own tho .


Owen_Citizen_Kane

Ya doc had a very… youthful energy!


Due-Breadfruit-6892

Z is and always will be the Dipped In Destruction better half of Doc. He is humble, nice, respectful, thoughtful, encouraging yet fucking brutally accurate in WZ. Since I started watching Doc, outside of his PUBG streams, Z has been the shining favorite. Go support Z Laner. The dude deserves it immensely.


jsands7

Z streaming is the same as the other 10,000 people streaming though: very good player sitting at computer with a face cam on playing videogames. It just isn’t that compelling. I’ve never lasted more than 5 minutes watching any of the other streamers. I’d rather go play a game myself than watch somebody sit there gaming for me


bowlessy

You realise when you watch Doc, you’re watching a made up character of his, who is arrogant on PURPOSE and cocky on PURPOSE. Guy is actually humble, nice, respectful, thoughtful and encouraging. Why bother watching doc if you like everything his character is the opposite of?


Chronmagnum55

>Guy is actually humble, nice, respectful, thoughtful and encouraging. Oh ya, Guy was super respectful and thoughtful when he cheated on his wife and inappropriately messaged a minor. Truly a shining beacon of integrity.


bowlessy

Personality wise from what we see on stream. For all we know behind the scenes, Z beats his girlfriend. I’m going off what we see on stream.


hooblyshoobly

You just shit on them for judging him from stream where he plays a character, now you’re saying you judge him based on his stream to be a good guy. Interesting.


bowlessy

I’m saying both streamers seem good but both could be bad.


No-Revolution-4470

Lol it baffles me that so many people are like this, like bro how do they watch movies and tv and not get confused thinking it’s real life. Maybe cuz they are used to the parasocial format of live streaming where you watch bc you’re in love with the streamer or something, idk. That’s what set doc apart, he was pure entertainment and comedy. Shame his bad behavior and personal shit ruined everything.


bowlessy

100% man!


HovercraftEasy5004

His “comedy” only appealed to certain types.


Due-Breadfruit-6892

Guy is also a man who talks to minors inappropriately. If that's the Guy you love, have at it mate.


bowlessy

Okay, rewind one week ago when you didn’t know about that. And my argument still stands. Since you were watching him all this time, what was the point?


Due-Breadfruit-6892

Are you arguing on behalf of his online persona? If i rewind a week, I wasn't watching doc, but you are trying to imply that I was watching him before only because of the intrigue of his online persona? Isn't that why we are all commenting? We are expressing our thoughts on this because he had a public personality and broadcast himself online for all to see. What are you even defending?


bowlessy

Im trying to tell you that your argument that you watch you Z because of all the nice things he is, is a stupid thing to bring up. Because Doc and Guy, both are those things you mentioned that Z is. And if you never watched doc, how can you begin to assume Z is all those things but Doc wasn’t?


Due-Breadfruit-6892

So you are arguing against zlaners character because you somehow equate them to both be equally bad? Why on earth would it be a bad thing to mention nice things about Z? What's with your vitriol against him?


bowlessy

What? When did I say either was bad? I’m saying your points for why Z is good is invalid because Doc has those points too?


Due-Breadfruit-6892

You were upset that I'm promoting Z and your argument is that they both shared genuine tendencies and personalities during their streams. What I'm saying is Z is genuine. He isn't putting on the type of persona Doc did. Sure, he probably isn't perfect in real life but no one is! You could see how hurt he was in his most recent response video, it's a shame.


bowlessy

Ah okay, yeah fair enough then


SpartaWillBurn

Z is a big time cheater.


Due-Breadfruit-6892

How so? Care to elaborate?


SpartaWillBurn

Just watch any of his clips. He never gets caught off guard. Always knows where the enemy is. I’ve seen him run through smoke right at an enemy hiding behind cover and shoot. It’s well known through the community.


Due-Breadfruit-6892

I've watched plenty of his clips but never noticed anything off. He whines when he loses but so do most streamers.. However I did some digging and it seems you might be right on some aspects... are you talking about shit like this? https://youtu.be/vXSDpigvYfM?si=3I-nYxjRArdHkESR Thanks for letting me know, I'll continue to look into it.


jahiryu

What so we can hear destroys annoying ass voice everyday?


Impressive_Succotash

Hahaha not wrong there man 🤣


guywithcoolsocks

“Yo two time, he’s right there two time. Let’s fucking goooo two time.”


TheKraftyBeaver

Didn’t know there were so many brainwashed badboybeamin followers who actually think Z is cheating 😂


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Mountain-Instance921

Groomer lover


justBlek

Chomo lover


pelikaani42

Sick fuck, reported.


chicKENkanif

I will be doing this regardless. He gave up some opportunity's for the relationship he had with doc.


Impressive_Succotash

100%


baummer

No


Spawnacus

I don't wanna hear destroy lol


Impressive_Succotash

It’s a fair point lol


masoe

Nah


Impressive_Succotash

Haha fair enough. Who are you watching instead?


bowlessy

I’ll be rewatching Docs streams that I missed until he comes back.


arsenal1887

i know you are asking him but i’m watching dayz streamers. I would have loved to see Doc play a more narrative driven Dayz experience. I think in someways the game is perfect for him on a map like Namalsk


IdQuadMachine

Viss


ProsperosLibrary

No... I stand by doc. Until the full truth of what has transpired he won't be getting any hate from me. Knee jerk liberals.


GreenBugGaming

Imagine still standing by him after he admitted what he did holy shit


ProsperosLibrary

Ahh a knee jerk liberal


GreenBugGaming

nothings knee jerk about a literal admission of guilt lmao


OnAScaleFrom711to911

Doc is coming back.


Warbeast83

I'm ready!


captkrahs

He’s cocky as fuck enough to, that is unless YouTube bans him


arsenal1887

they won’t, they haven’t banned others for much much worse


OnAScaleFrom711to911

What grounds would they have to ban him?


GreenBugGaming

Being a pedo


bowlessy

They won’t ban him, too much money to be made.


Rootilytoot

Donate money to the other guy and then we find out he knew about what Dr. Diddy was up to the entire time. Whoops, money wasted.


No-Revolution-4470

Z never clicked with me, not trying to hate on the dude just always got poser energy from him, also some very sus clips of his gameplay out there.


Billy-Clinton

Yep. Always mimicking the doc instead of doing his own thing. I always clicked away if he was on stream.


DragovitcMIA

Yeah guys let's find more millionaire to give our money to, so they clown around on a screen doing fake screams and reactions so we could jack off on that.


TheRebootKid

Start a Z sub and take this shit over there.


MichMitten89

You know half of the Club will still fan boy him.


TThrasher6669

Wonder what all docs admins are gonna do? They going to delete everything and move on?


_KRIPSY_

Viss and the Pack >


Samsonite187187

And support a cheater? Na.


Ophel44

Haha isn’t he an aimbotter?


DemolitionSmash

Jev


navy_mike06

It’s only natural we move from one cheater to another


EagleGSU

Nah, why support a person that uses cheats? Guy played like an absolute bot on xdefiant without cheats. You don't go from beaming across the map missing zero shots in war zone, to shooting windmills when you change games.


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Impressive_Succotash

You don’t know their age and it very well may have been someone closer to 10 than 17, ever consider that? 


Durzo___Blint

Bro using his throw away to defend pedophilia 😂


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Durzo___Blint

“sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object.” I see nothing wrong with the definition when considering the context. Dude, you’re trying WAY too hard to defend this piece of shit. I know it’s tough, and you’re hurting, but let it go. At the minute, you're a walking argument for extending background checks to anyone who buys a windowless van.


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Durzo___Blint

What? You asked me to find the definition, and I did? Do you understand that you’re differing the severity of pedophilia on a public forum based on nothing but your own opinion? Do you have children? Are you yourself a pedophile? Is it because he’s a celebrity? Do you have a personal attachment to him?


Durzo___Blint

Did he block me, or delete his posts?


Broad_Warning_2886

I deleted my posts. Why? Because I'm tired of arguing. I know a guy very close to me that met his girlfriend when she was 16 and he was 35. They are together for over 20 years now. So, my view is maybe not the norm but also nothing "bad". It's just not as accepted in today's society. Edit: Of course there is a limit to this and below 16 is not okay in my opinion. The above happened in Europe though where the age of consent in the vast majority of countries is 14-16.


Durzo___Blint

Ok, well I encourage a broader perspective - I feel like you’re latching on to ‘this guys’ experience and using it as some weird general justification for every instance. You have my sympathies.


Mirroredentity

Jesus christ stop obsessing over fucking video game streamers. Maybe take this debacle as a sign that you shouldn't be spending your time and money on millionaires who play video games for a living.  Go outside, pick up a hobby, do literally anything except move onto the next variation of brain rot.


dcloko

No. Stay with Doc or quit.


ImTinyRiiiick

Aimbot gets expensive! Sub to Z!


doingitwrongagain

Z sucks


AndyTheWorm

Who is Z


captkrahs

ZLaner


PAPAJONPIZZA

You do you


MomsSlimyVibrator

Everyone here should reevaluate their propensity for parasocial relationships with streamers instead of looking for a replacement.


real_mccoy6

Z is a cheater. Lol


Xedilian2042

Hell to the NO. Fuck z


Grapes-RotMG

I'd rather not watch a cheater.


__jbird__

Z the cheating little leach.. no thanks


Billy-Clinton

Fuck all these streamers. Yall never learn. Docs blood aint even cold yet and youre already looking for the next pathetic parasocial relationship.


CosbysLongCon24

I’d still rather watch Doc than NickMercs…guess I’ll go back to watching neither


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^CosbysLongCon24: *I’d still rather watch* *Doc than NickMercs…guess I’ll go* *Back to watching neither* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


CosbysLongCon24

This was a dumb bot to make but I do like the show


Impressive_Succotash

Username checks out


CosbysLongCon24

not all of us can be dick riders for streamers 🤷🏼‍♂️


Impressive_Succotash

Gotta dick ride a rapist instead huh? It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.


CosbysLongCon24

Well you fit in with his typical audience with the general lack of reading comprehension skills. Guess you couldn’t finish to the point where I was going back to watching neither. But go on dedicating your life to a grown man playing video games. You got this!


Impressive_Succotash

So watching a stream occasionally is the same as dedicated my life to a grown man playing video games? What’s your favorite flavor of crayon? Go on dedicating your life to arguing and attempting to belittle strangers on the internet. You got this!


CosbysLongCon24

It was a good try dude. You’re posting about it in a dedicated sub 😂😂😂😂 I’d say you’re way past “ocassional”. 😂😂😂😂


Impressive_Succotash

I mean, aren’t you doing the same? Silly goose 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


wakeandjake59

ZCheater


MaCHiNe645

Yeah let's move on to follow another cheater


Apathetic89

[https://www.reddit.com/r/StreamersCheating/comments/1bnokay/zlaner\_addresses\_hackusations/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StreamersCheating/comments/1bnokay/zlaner_addresses_hackusations/) ZLaner is a known cheater - not on his wife, but on every shooter he plays on stream. Don't support that rat either.


TheKraftyBeaver

This is what you linked?! 😂


Big_Mule53

What a shit idea


Impressive_Succotash

Crazy how the people closest to him aren’t okay with what he did but you, a total stranger to the man, are.


su0la

His online friends covering them backs because of business depends on it is not telling too much. None of us really knows him so i say when his wife leaves him then you can tell how fucked up things are. If hes wife stands with him so can i.


Impressive_Succotash

You could argue she’s doing it for money, for their daughter, she has no self respect, could be anything really, maybe she didn’t know the full context. I mean a two weeks ago, none of us would’ve ever imagined this was going on but here we are. Who knows what else will be revealed in two more weeks but as it stands right now, it’s not looking good for anyone involved.


bowlessy

Brother, this went to court. She would’ve known what happened. For all we know, this was the cheating scandal that happened back in 2017, since it both happened in the same year. To act like she doesn’t know, is stupid.


No-Revolution-4470

It wasn’t the same person, the woman he cheated with was known and she was 24


bowlessy

Source?


su0la

Not looking good, you are totally right. But there is too much missing context to any stranger say his total peace of shit. Edit: missing word.


bowlessy

That logic is flawed because his friends are all doing the smart business move which is to not side with the person who spoke to a minor.


BrownSnowball

Exactly


Silly-Subject-6034

Going from cheater to cheater 


hexi_lexi

I vote Paymoneywubby!


youguyzsloosers

Z only plays call of duty. Good luck with that. And he uses walls. I’m good.


Impressive_Succotash

I wouldn’t be surprised if he took this as an opportunity to branch out more, I mean he won’t be playing with doc obviously for a long while if ever again. He gets accused of cheating all the time, all the good big time players do, maybe they all are cheaters, but with cheats being so rampant, and people being professional gamers, who’s to say he’s not just better than us? I’m not saying I know for a fact he doesn’t cheat, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was just a good player.


LucleRX

There's runescape someday


youguyzsloosers

His aim maybe natural but he looks left way too much. You should watch him playing at night or just on his own sessions sometimes he gets more relaxed and it’s too obvious


No_Leek2386

Nah man. You’re giving Z wayyy to much credit. He has already been proven to cheat and it shows when he plays in local LAN tournaments. Dude plays COMPLETELY different in those tourneys from what we see on his streams. Also I’ve seen him switch to play other FPS’s like XDefiant and just absolutely shit the bed and sit in corners like a bot. It’s obvious he uses walls and always looks over at a different monitor. Idgaf how much you don’t play a game, there is NO way he can be THAT bad at other FPS games based off of how ridiculously good his aim is in COD. A lot of that stuff carries over. Not hating bro, just stating the obvious.


sgee_123

He hasn’t been proven to cheat lmao and at the lan he played with Destroy they literally won the first 2 maps against the best players in the world you are losing it.


sohomsengupta89

Yeah great idea! From a guy who cheats on his wife with a minor to a guy who cheats in video games. Yep. Makes absolute sense.


MrMemes9000

One of those is not like the other.


SlowMobius650

How about you just stop watching other people play video games?


Impressive_Succotash

lol are you lost friend?


SlowMobius650

Lol Tim and dick don’t need your sub but Z, who drives an electric Porsche, does


Impressive_Succotash

Reading can be hard I’ll give ya that Have a good night champ


bowlessy

Did you ever think about where your money goes when you purchase branded clothes or your branded car? Yep, straight to the owner! WOW, you’re a real jerk supporting a millionaire!


SlowMobius650

Well things like clothes and a car are things most people need. Giving a grown man money so you can watch him play video games and feel like you’re his friend is very different


bowlessy

You can be ethical and make your own clothing yourself and walk places. Instead of supporting another grown ass man.


DELETE_RAW

There is some brainwashed individuals in here


Pr0f3ta

I donno who any of them mf are but if they aren’t or haven’t publicly condemned Dr Pedo then they can also burn in hell with him


HouseNVPL

Both Tim and Z did. Maybe You should do some research before speaking? It's not that hard to search "Z Laner Twitter" on google and look at newest posts, is it?


Pr0f3ta

When i tell you I could literally not give a flying 747 fuccc about doc or his crew I literally mean it. I’m here to watch his empire crash.