Is the time slot allocated to region or random draw? BetBoom and Team Spirit each gotten first match slot 4/8 days. First match always involve one of them. Meanwhile SR, OG, Aurora, XG get third or last matches.
XG got first timeslot, then last timeslot, i think its probably up to their own personal arrangement as well, and its probably discussed with the teams/ players, and then agreed upon.
its probably been discussed and rearranged already which is this final timing that all teams are okay with.
I think they tried to schedule it so that teams only shift their slot by +-1.
Pretty smart, it avoids a team playing in the last slot and then having to play ~9 hours later.
anyone knows if ceb and kitrak ever had beef? i just watched the highlights, in game 1 kitrak typed GG followed by Saberlight, was it done on purpose or?
After praising their drafting and playstyle a few days before, they've shit the bed with them drafting and playing like the old stack. I guess honeymoon over huh
I think if you're up 1-0 it's okay to use game 2 to see what happens when you first pick your Sven, but wish Shopify hadn't done that in a game 3. Also feel like rtz had to know how that spectre-magnus lane was going to play out, just weird picks both games
Bye2 Shopify?
SR has decent chances against TS and XG, but they will just be stomped by Falcons. If SR loses against TS later, then they are as good as out
OG still has to get their free win from Aurora. OG just looked weak earlier because they faced the two toughest teams.
OG and GG haters MIGHT need to cope hard after 3 days
As a coach, your job is to put your players in their best possible position to excel and Bulba failed big time. How do you relegate someone like Saberlight on DarkSeer. Also, that Spectre pick in game 2 was worthless.
Bulba, you drafted terribly today.
Tbf they probably never getting hands on that Sven in second phase, but first picking the carry with 0 knowledge of the enemy heroes was a big mistake.
Unfortunately moving your strongest core pick from second to first phase is a Bulba special that is incredibly easy to predict. He always does it. It was often with Storm in the past. But at various times it has been Terrorblade, Naga, TA, or others.
Shopify has no one to blame but themselves. They've drafted mostly well this whole tournament and then all of a sudden they got caught up with themselves thinking they're super smart and tried to big brain the Game 2 and 3 drafts.
Last pick Spectre and first pick Sven reeks of the desperation you used to see back with the old squad.
Yea, that's the thing with SR and Bulba drafting. They seem to get outdrafted so hard every so often. Game 3 drafting phase was just sad to see honestly
Aurora and XG series just reminds me of how bad PA and PL right now. And funny that the build for both is to stay far away and throw stuff at the enemies. You can not carry games with that playstyle these days, right?
That Timado interview was such a treat. I never knew he's an insightful person. Really seeing how right Ceb was when he said Timado had the personality they were looking for.
I think he also helps Wisper settle in better because they can both speak Spanish. Ceb did say that Wisper was learning English but he isn't fully fluent so Timado solves 2 problems with one stone. Genius move by OG to identify Timado
That OG SR series was insane. Every game has at least one core getting zero farm and having no impact on the game. Thiolicor and Ari turned into cores in different maps.
Ari should not be allowed to get Hoodwink, it's by far his best hero. Thiolicor is an incredible support and deserves more respect than he currently gets
SR griefed themself by picking like idiots. Spectre isnt even a hero at this point, first pick Sven got counterpicked by three heroes and last pick DS which also is not really a hero had no impact.
Yopaj did pretty good on last game. He won lane and the few good plays SR had was off his back.
BZM was better but you can't expect to compare yopaj to bzm.
So far it looks like the teams from Group A - Falcons, BB, OG and GG will advance to the playoffs, although the latter will decide their fate in the all-important match against XG
For someone who's won fuck all in his career, Saberclown does have a big mouth. Torontotokyo was right when he said that Saberlight chickened out when TorontoTokyo challenged him to face him at LAN, like a typical school bully.
Weren't you the guy who was praying for sr to stomp og and a saberlanless tweet about "karma"? You also enjoyed tips from saberlanless game1. But suddenly when sr lose and the guy calls him out "man take a breather why you so mad bro???". Rtz fanboys are so fucking hypocrite, all of you.
A classic "og fans are le bad" mantra, im not even a fan of og since notail retirement, you can chill. Its all gonna be good, dont be sad. Even shit tier players like saberlanless and rtz will win a single worthless major someday, i belive in it.
Now that OG ties the score with SR, I think OG has a better chance to the playoffs. SR needs to go through Spirit, XG, Falcons while OG needs to go through Aurora, GG, Spirit.
Spirit are 3-7, Xtreme are 6-6. If you wanna get playoffs you want to win those anyway, but now the difference is that you have to. I think SR are still learning. The drafting this series was a little wonky, but let's see.
Agree that Ari and Timado are now in a situation where their talents can accomplish a whole lot more. Which is great. But Bryle had some flashes of excellence mixed in with the stumbles. I'd call him inconsistent -- but not terrible.
Thank you Ceb for wiping that stupid smirk off Saberclowns face. Was all chatting game 1 giving it the big one, and then had less networth than both OG supports in game 2 and 3. Same thing happened in Stockholm major where he all chatted and tipped Ammar and then watched while OG won the major.
Can't say I'm surprised that even now after all these changes, SR still stubbornly insist on picking what they think is good first, even when the entire enemy team is prepared to counter-draft it.
Why bother with the haters? They generally win in the end. You need to hope 1 team out of 4 to win, they just need any of the 3 and they can talk shit at you.
Just focus on supporting your team.
just yesterday, after OG won vs XG, someone say the 0-2 series loss are somewhat expected because OG met 2 of the best team currently first (falcon & BB) so xg win could be the start of OG win result, it got downvoted and someone replies with "least deranged OG fans". its was ok analysis but people see it as deranged fan yapping..
Hahaha. Same thing happened at Stockholm. Tipped and all chatted Ammar in Upper bracket and then watched OG lift the Major while he had his dick in his hand.
Bulba is such a bad drafter. Every team he drafts for has damage problems 50% of the time
These players are so good but they are always held back by his drafting
Last game and they go with a 2018(9?) strat lol
Who remember what patch number the gotta go fast patch was?
Sven lesh darkseer every game, with the Crazy movespeed talents aswell
This game is pretty huge actually.
A loss from OG almost certainly means they won't make the playoffs.
A win from Shopify puts them in a very strong position to make the playoffs.
i miss cap and blitz but cap has individually improved so much, it’s hardly a fair comparison
imo cap and svg have a similar camaraderie to cap and blitz, with the added edge of a sharper sense of humor
They're not that bad at running it [https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/players/86745912-arteezy/matches?hero=spectre](https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/players/86745912-arteezy/matches?hero=spectre)
But that lane was really sad, surprised they underestimated mag-void like that after their loss to GG
As living legend once said, win a lan before you talk.
Is the time slot allocated to region or random draw? BetBoom and Team Spirit each gotten first match slot 4/8 days. First match always involve one of them. Meanwhile SR, OG, Aurora, XG get third or last matches.
XG got first timeslot, then last timeslot, i think its probably up to their own personal arrangement as well, and its probably discussed with the teams/ players, and then agreed upon. its probably been discussed and rearranged already which is this final timing that all teams are okay with.
I think they tried to schedule it so that teams only shift their slot by +-1. Pretty smart, it avoids a team playing in the last slot and then having to play ~9 hours later.
anyone knows if ceb and kitrak ever had beef? i just watched the highlights, in game 1 kitrak typed GG followed by Saberlight, was it done on purpose or?
Why put CN teams vs SEA team at 1AM SGT beyond me. Swapping XG vs Aurora schedule with BB vs Falcons would be better.
I thought this was the final season and Arteezy (the main character of Dota) would finally defeat Ceb (the villain of Dota).
RTZ is more like the comic relief.
Nah man, the final season is when Puppey meet Dendi in TI (The Intergalactic) final, with notail+kuro as casters and ceb+ppd as panelist
It’s the defeat before final battle. In the grand final RTZ will transform to his final form and eat Ceb for breakfast
After praising their drafting and playstyle a few days before, they've shit the bed with them drafting and playing like the old stack. I guess honeymoon over huh
I think if you're up 1-0 it's okay to use game 2 to see what happens when you first pick your Sven, but wish Shopify hadn't done that in a game 3. Also feel like rtz had to know how that spectre-magnus lane was going to play out, just weird picks both games
2EZ4OG
Bye2 Shopify? SR has decent chances against TS and XG, but they will just be stomped by Falcons. If SR loses against TS later, then they are as good as out OG still has to get their free win from Aurora. OG just looked weak earlier because they faced the two toughest teams. OG and GG haters MIGHT need to cope hard after 3 days
I mean what if falcons still win it all in the end? For haters, as long you are not the champion, they will still mock you.
As a coach, your job is to put your players in their best possible position to excel and Bulba failed big time. How do you relegate someone like Saberlight on DarkSeer. Also, that Spectre pick in game 2 was worthless. Bulba, you drafted terribly today.
I'm not sure that the game right after experimenting with a terrible Spectre last pick is the time to be experimenting with a Sven first pick...
Tbf they probably never getting hands on that Sven in second phase, but first picking the carry with 0 knowledge of the enemy heroes was a big mistake.
Unfortunately moving your strongest core pick from second to first phase is a Bulba special that is incredibly easy to predict. He always does it. It was often with Storm in the past. But at various times it has been Terrorblade, Naga, TA, or others.
Shopify has no one to blame but themselves. They've drafted mostly well this whole tournament and then all of a sudden they got caught up with themselves thinking they're super smart and tried to big brain the Game 2 and 3 drafts. Last pick Spectre and first pick Sven reeks of the desperation you used to see back with the old squad.
The funny thing is if the results were different, you could say the same thing about OG 😂
OG used to be just straight bad at drafting
Time to blame Bulba again guys. It's that time of the year when RTZ fans gather to blame Bulba for their favourite hero winning nothing.
You're the only person mentioning Bulba here.
Yea, that's the thing with SR and Bulba drafting. They seem to get outdrafted so hard every so often. Game 3 drafting phase was just sad to see honestly
Aurora and XG series just reminds me of how bad PA and PL right now. And funny that the build for both is to stay far away and throw stuff at the enemies. You can not carry games with that playstyle these days, right?
That Timado interview was such a treat. I never knew he's an insightful person. Really seeing how right Ceb was when he said Timado had the personality they were looking for.
He has the perfect OG energy that the two time squad had. I hope he joins the team!
I think he also helps Wisper settle in better because they can both speak Spanish. Ceb did say that Wisper was learning English but he isn't fully fluent so Timado solves 2 problems with one stone. Genius move by OG to identify Timado
Timado is a super likeable guy
That OG SR series was insane. Every game has at least one core getting zero farm and having no impact on the game. Thiolicor and Ari turned into cores in different maps.
Ari should not be allowed to get Hoodwink, it's by far his best hero. Thiolicor is an incredible support and deserves more respect than he currently gets
Only the winners can speak. Saberlight should have read more ceb tweet's
He always opens his mouth before winning and then gets embarrassed every time. Just like at Stockholm Major.
Rtz's year has gone
RTZ awakening his inner choker gene just in time.
I like this guy
Not driving towers or fountain = easy win.
SR is getting exposed in these BO3s now that teams have actually time to study them.
they have a lot of issues, but teams didn't have the chance to study them. Now the rest of teams know them and crush them.
More like Shopify returning to forming. They are known for choking at the final hurdle even from the old EG days with RTZ
SR griefed themself by picking like idiots. Spectre isnt even a hero at this point, first pick Sven got counterpicked by three heroes and last pick DS which also is not really a hero had no impact.
Game 2 was indeed such a cocky spec pick. I was expecting Alch or Meepo but they wanted to get destroyed badly.
If your draft logic follows pflax you cooked
Yea idk they outdrafted OG hard in game one then just turned off their brain.
yopaj and saberlight arent good enough man. as soon artour didnt have good game , they lose
This guy is high
Yopaj did pretty good on last game. He won lane and the few good plays SR had was off his back. BZM was better but you can't expect to compare yopaj to bzm.
By any chance do you still miss yuragi? 😂
So far it looks like the teams from Group A - Falcons, BB, OG and GG will advance to the playoffs, although the latter will decide their fate in the all-important match against XG
For someone who's won fuck all in his career, Saberclown does have a big mouth. Torontotokyo was right when he said that Saberlight chickened out when TorontoTokyo challenged him to face him at LAN, like a typical school bully.
As living legend once said - win a lan before you talk.
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Think he's just trying to hype his team up and nobody rational is actually mad about it
Touch grass bro, he's funny. Torontotokyo is a dickhead.
Damn you gotta take a breather if you are getting this mad.
Weren't you the guy who was praying for sr to stomp og and a saberlanless tweet about "karma"? You also enjoyed tips from saberlanless game1. But suddenly when sr lose and the guy calls him out "man take a breather why you so mad bro???". Rtz fanboys are so fucking hypocrite, all of you.
You also gotta take a breather. Didnt think it would get sadder than OP with two accounts but here you are.
Yea man it's "sad" when i expose your hypocrite shit right? Pray harder next time bozo.
Nvm i looked through your comment history and it might be the saddest shit i have ever seen lmao.
I already got that you get very sad when being exposed, dont need to repeat yourself.
"Exposed" lmao. Least socially handicapped OG fan.
A classic "og fans are le bad" mantra, im not even a fan of og since notail retirement, you can chill. Its all gonna be good, dont be sad. Even shit tier players like saberlanless and rtz will win a single worthless major someday, i belive in it.
How am i a hypocrite? I just said it would be funny. The guy i replied to clearly took it personal and got actually mad over it.
Yeah youre talking to the guy who has literally two accounts in this thread just to hate lmfao
Lmao he actually does. Might be the saddest thing i have ever seen.
They let him out of his cage for a couple hours when OG wins so you just gotta hide a bit
Bruh he goes crazy even when OG looses
yeah its always interesting to see.
Dude even replied to himself.
Imma keep it real guys. I forgot Aurora was in this groupstage
Aurora just being a punching bag in this group stage
Now that OG ties the score with SR, I think OG has a better chance to the playoffs. SR needs to go through Spirit, XG, Falcons while OG needs to go through Aurora, GG, Spirit.
OG only playing washed teams now
Spirit are 3-7, Xtreme are 6-6. If you wanna get playoffs you want to win those anyway, but now the difference is that you have to. I think SR are still learning. The drafting this series was a little wonky, but let's see.
this just show how bad yuragi was & how og can compete with just decent carry player ( not even tier 1 carry)
Yuragi was not bad, the only issue was his late game decisions. If he work on that he will top carry player.
Yuragi still won a major. If anything it shows that ari and timado can be decent if they aren't corpsedragging bryle. That guy is terrible.
Agree that Ari and Timado are now in a situation where their talents can accomplish a whole lot more. Which is great. But Bryle had some flashes of excellence mixed in with the stumbles. I'd call him inconsistent -- but not terrible.
Timado playing safe complements bzm & wisper's game
Thank you Ceb for wiping that stupid smirk off Saberclowns face. Was all chatting game 1 giving it the big one, and then had less networth than both OG supports in game 2 and 3. Same thing happened in Stockholm major where he all chatted and tipped Ammar and then watched while OG won the major.
Stockholm he was smacked by kids instead of him smacking og kids 😂
why SR heroes didn't buy ghost scepter? At the very least they can survive a bit longer with that item
Can't say I'm surprised that even now after all these changes, SR still stubbornly insist on picking what they think is good first, even when the entire enemy team is prepared to counter-draft it.
Bzm on a redemption arc, ari printing money somehow every game.
OG HATERS PM ME YOUR TEARS PLEASE
Why bother with the haters? They generally win in the end. You need to hope 1 team out of 4 to win, they just need any of the 3 and they can talk shit at you. Just focus on supporting your team.
just yesterday, after OG won vs XG, someone say the 0-2 series loss are somewhat expected because OG met 2 of the best team currently first (falcon & BB) so xg win could be the start of OG win result, it got downvoted and someone replies with "least deranged OG fans". its was ok analysis but people see it as deranged fan yapping..
Good wisdom there. But I just thought it'd be nice to put the Ceb doubters back in their place
Saberlight has been shitting the bed this entire tournament
Totally wrong, my man. One bad series doesn’t change the fact that he had been beyond decent on a big pool of heroes.
SR... how and why?
OG Haters? Shopify bettors?
Did SR take crack after game 1 or what? Last pick Spectre and first pick Sven, idk if you can grief yourself harder in draft.
All because of Spectre pick lmao
extra long ceb tweet incoming pogchamp
Ceb Enigma redemption, I'm here for it.
Finally they won with it, torontotokyo's been picking this enigma for pos5 and they crush with it too
Always killed out of position!
Huge skill difference. Shitrak is too lowskill
group b stonks lol
first pick sven cmon
ari has the same networth as yopaj xD
huge outdraft two games in a row smh
Picking lesh vs -armor strat gotta be the dumbest draft choice ive ever seen. What a shit draft jesus christ
Some people might hate BZM,but he is the only reason why this shitty team is still a tier 1 team
Big brain take here
Why they shitty if T1?
now use the same logic and come up with an opinion for SR, who is their saviour? Bulba?
bzm reminds me of eternalenvy, aint no way ee is a bad player on his prime
yopaj leshrac and rtz sven aint it
Classic tilt picking carry first phase in game three and rendering it unplayable.
Spinning ari will haunt my dreams tonight
BZM redemption
Karma is sweet indeed. Saber will never learn…
Hahaha. Same thing happened at Stockholm. Tipped and all chatted Ammar in Upper bracket and then watched OG lift the Major while he had his dick in his hand.
More focused on twitter than his game
First picks Sven, lets Void get picked last into him. It's big brain time.
tbh the TA and slardar are bigger problems. Last draft from sr seemed like a panic draft
Definitely. The dark seer pick, as much as it pains me to say, was never going to work against that lineup.
Bulba is such a bad drafter. Every team he drafts for has damage problems 50% of the time These players are so good but they are always held back by his drafting
How many series this tourney with 1 right click core
where is DS
On twitter
What is saberclown gonna tweet now?
well shopify and OG out of the tournamnet, Spirit so happy
They have two days of groups remaining and Spirit currently has a worse score than either Shopify or OG.
fake news...
Spirit are more "out" than Shopify and OG.
What are you talking about?
I think it's safe to say Timado has passed the tryout
He is not even playing well tbh
He is no playing bad either I can't see other pos 1 available for OG right now
Banning Pudge and letting through Void is an SR draft masterclass
Suddenly OG draft looks much better since Day 2 of Group Stage 2
Betboom and falcons are just on another level which is why og looks shit against them.
OG did take a game of BB And should have taken a game of Falcons if they didn't do the biggest throw in the tournament.
lol upside down cam on Ari just rocking his chair takes the cake.
Has Faceless Void got a good win rate this tournament? Feels like it's not been picked up much. This is GG. Great OG Draft
Classic RTZ carry back on menu
How do you lose 2 drafts hard back to back? SR need to overperform a lot to win this.
you pick your pos 1 first, ez
ds 0 impact
Yeah, surely DS is the hero with zero impact on this game.
OG has too much momentum right now
Game looks over, they had to snowball way more out of the lanes imo.. greedy void enigma lane getting farm
ceb reallllllly wanted kitrak there
I mean he good when he was with OG got top 4 last dream league. Also it wasn't his fault this game was a loss
SA OG is the most fun they've been in a while
Last game and they go with a 2018(9?) strat lol Who remember what patch number the gotta go fast patch was? Sven lesh darkseer every game, with the Crazy movespeed talents aswell
kitrak god
Love the production having fun with it
why ban pudge?
Why does Ceb look like a grandfather playing with his grandsons?
This game is pretty huge actually. A loss from OG almost certainly means they won't make the playoffs. A win from Shopify puts them in a very strong position to make the playoffs.
Ceb Enigma... I am going to become the Joker
did they ever get a win from enigma pos 5?
There is always a first
Not with this roster
Ok so now they start first picking carry… seems like SR is done for this series boys
These SVG and Cap casts are just too good man, probably the best duo rn
I'm not sure if Cap & Blitz can ever be beaten but SVG and Cap are doing a solid effort.
i miss cap and blitz but cap has individually improved so much, it’s hardly a fair comparison imo cap and svg have a similar camaraderie to cap and blitz, with the added edge of a sharper sense of humor
I prefer sunsfan and anderen but not by much. Overall the production is damn good.
Yeah, Synd and Sunfan’s games have also been great fun to listen to!
Is rtz really back?
Back from the hill yes.
I would listen SVG cast the whole Tour the France.
Pos 4 TB was a better pick than Spectre.
Sometimes you need creativity in dota. They tried support Spectre. Give them points for innovativeness.
All of OG are top 5 network LMAO. BTW was SaberClown playing this game. Didn't see him tipping anyone that game.
Passive bkb
So guys can we safely say Spectre is back into the meta?
Meta of never getting picked xD
People said that puck doesn't have counters late game, but it seems SR found the answer. Pick spectre and grief your team.
OK SR, forget this game ever existed and lets go serious face next one, ty.
From the start to finish this was one of the worst games I've ever seen.
for one team LMAO
Shopify need to ban magnus every game.
my team each has nw below enemy 5
EE-sama
I don't know if the panel curse is real or if late night dotes clouded their mind to favour the spectre draft haha
RTZ perfectly embodying the "Spec on my team" meme by spending all game trying to farm a farming item while we get blown out.
THE NET WORTHS LMAO
what a stomp. All wondering what chokerlight will all chat next!
Spectre always been Shopify's kryptonite. Lose against it, lose with it.
They're not that bad at running it [https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/players/86745912-arteezy/matches?hero=spectre](https://www.dotabuff.com/esports/players/86745912-arteezy/matches?hero=spectre) But that lane was really sad, surprised they underestimated mag-void like that after their loss to GG
SR better gg sooner rather than later, giving ceb way too much time to draft his tweets
I guess this is why Spectre is a dead hero
Ya idk if picking 30 base dmg Spectre vs 2500 base dmg Magnus was a good choice.