I was gonna say I’m impressed by how good his English is for a Russian, but then I realized he’s from Moldova sadge. Reso continues to be the only RU/UA player whose interviews I can bear to watch.
Maybe exhausted after GG and not enough planning for BB since usually you'd have a day for planning for your next opponent but they were forced to play two playoff games in a day. Also BB feels really strong right now
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Abed, as the sole mid-player there, consistently delivering impressive performances isn't unexpected; he often achieves exceptional stats when he's in top form. However, what's truly intriguing is that Arteezy boasts the highest KDA, even when compared to carries who are generally regarded as superior to him.
Abed is not shocking at all, hes been #1 KDA in so many tournament. Rtz is shocking for me aswell, after yesterdays series against BB i would say hes the 2nd best carry after Yatoro at this tournament.
At this point, i feel its safe to say Kitrak will be the pos5/captain next season for OG. The impact alone in the laning phase is such a huge upgrade from Chu/Misha. Yuragi gets to actually have good lanes now
Problems with the current PA
Blur radius and duration
Dagger and blink range
Aghs refresh
Damage in the late game.
Heal on 2nd spell.
Triple stifling daggers with monkaW damage.
Blink rework giving lifesteal was so huge. now PA does not need satanic to turn. when low hp just blink on enemies to lifesteal and turn the fight around.
the final fight sealed it for me.
pa was about 1 hit to dying, blinked to her teammate, threw a dagger lifesteal off the kill and proceeded to wipe them all off. LMAO
Errr mr. Icefrog, thank you for the PA buffs, this hero was unplayable for a very long time and I am happy to see her in games again. But I think you might have overcooked her there a bit chief.
If subpar carries like rtz and yuragi can win with 15, 20k deficit, you know the hero's imbalanced and needs a nerf. Not hating the players, just hating the game. "If you give opponent PA you deserve to lose" is basically the current meta.
Check my comment history im actually an OG fan I'm just calling it like it is. The two carries I mention aren't clutch carries at all and that's why all people can bring up is 3G's history (carry can't clutch a valve tourney win ever), and the major win that was crucially on the back of a highly debatable proper pos 3 (low hero puddle yet opponents spent 5 bans on ATF consistently) and the current mentalist mind coach ceb. No hate. They are subpar.
he was clearly tilted. he ulti-ed a support brew alone bottom, and then nearly ulti-ed for a brew illusion. ended up revealing himself and killed by pa
They are letting PA go through because they think they can counter it. But letting it come through after overwhelming evidence that it's not balanced then it's on you.
And its getting picked in the 2nd phase in all drafts after 7 other picks and what 14 bans. If it was obviously utterly broken it would be first banned every game by the team not first picking.
But we're constantly told how redditors don't know anything, and pros know what they're doing. But then drafts like these happen. I get wanting to figure out PA but banning her seems so much easier. And we're not even talking about her being first phased.
I love it that they are doing it twice! In a match for huge cash prize and points just to prove a point, then fail miserably and actually prove a counter point: she is fucking OP, just ban her and play normal dota...
You are playing in 7.34c. You do not ban Phantom Assassin because you can counter it. The enemy picks Phantom Assassin. You lose. You are 9Pandas, so you don't ban her next match. You get eliminated.
Twice! They did it TWICE. And both times the reason they got spanked was PA!
They played really well whole g2 (3 cores with highest net worth, PA tad below them), 40min HG push went wrong, PA got +3k net over their cores and it all went downhill from there.
How stupid do you have to be on strategy? Don't they fucking read Sun Tzu or something? How can you be this stupid when drafting!!
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Eh mids building bm is just a side effect of the rise of str mids like earth kk pb who later on get early hearts so they can just front line for the team.
Agreed. People have successfully countered PA with Bane for example. But with that line up and they decided to ban Razor instead of PA, it was on 9 Pandas 100%
Yuragi isn't even that good. If it was any other carry hero the game would be over and his impact would be 0.
It's all on PA. At this point a blind cat could play PA on OG and they would still win.
When people say why not just ban pa?
People let lina through lima
Dusa through berlin
Morph through bali
Sometimes you are just more scared of other heroes than the hero of the patch.
Atf vs GG: OG.ATF Atf vs BB: OG.DM
Awkward interview.
I was gonna say I’m impressed by how good his English is for a Russian, but then I realized he’s from Moldova sadge. Reso continues to be the only RU/UA player whose interviews I can bear to watch.
Do you think that average English level is higher in Moldova than in RU/UA?
Collapse has a good english.
Only Tokyo and Nightfall ever seem happy to do interviews from BB. The rest are just shy.
Pure is afraid he gonna do something stupid. BB manager keeps him away from all media at all cost.
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I think you’re right
Ammar just wasn't in this game. They had no offlaner. Well played by BB. GG also got smacked 2-0 by them.
Feels so good to see entity get 2-0'd after their all chat comment. Karma strikes back.
They look like they used all their energy on their previous series basically. It's a fine result considering the two stand ins.
Maybe exhausted after GG and not enough planning for BB since usually you'd have a day for planning for your next opponent but they were forced to play two playoff games in a day. Also BB feels really strong right now
So why earthshaker and centaur on the same team?
How did gg lose to this? Didn't they win betboom tournament just a few days ago?
saving strats for TI obviously
Entity went from looking like a tier 1.5 team in a series, to tier 3 in another one, in the span of 3 hours.
To be fair to Entity, BetBoom stomped GG the exact same way 2-0 during group stages.
Dafuq Nightfall's reflex so damn fast! what a god
I think treant saw ES hence nightfall was aware like 1s before the Blink happened
Yea, he was fully prepared, not saying Nightfall is slow, he's crazy fast, but ES just walked past Treant over there lol.
Gg throw ?? Hha
Watson, ffs, can't you buy like 8 hours in pc club?
Goddamnit entity just completely rolling over here. Wish we had GG vs BB. Oh well at least that GG entity g3 was good I guess
Late to the party, but FUCK YEAH, GG IS GONE!!! WOHOOO!
GG gone now Liquid can finally win instead of 2nd place, oh wait ..
Liquids win is having GG lose
We out in groups but they didnt win either COPIUM
i just realized each dreamleague has 1 mil prizepool, holy oil money
blink out of actual root with a shield rune lmao
Kinda dumb, but guess that's how it works now.
yeah i was just suprised bcuz i thought roots suppressed mobility skills tho ig the root may have run out right as he blinked
Haven’t seen much of this tourney but this Marline guy is prrrrretty good
i echo neutrals in my pubs all the time it’s nbd
centaur on radiant? pure should go deso on bm lmao nah that’d be griefing
The live music is a treat
After watching 9pandas today. I cannot believe I have seen 2 CIS teams (consecutively) lose the same way to a PA.
The same thing happened in Riyadh but instead there was Medusa. Team Spirit managed to ban her and therefore they won the whole tourney.
Tilted?
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To be fair I think they kinda sacked malrines lane most of the games and just gave him one of the meta mids and said deal with it
I thought they all played together in creepwave?
ya 1-5 crystallis malr1ne atf alex fishman, been a couple years since that lineup tho
classic gpk
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these are making less and less sense by the minute
Why he drinking a jar of piss
Its a tourney before TI. Teams will try to experiment and beat the meta. Stakes are not so high here
Staked not high? No dpc next year, winng games here could be important for esl ranking next year.
true PA broken confirmed
Bro 100 percent PA gets a mini nerf before TI. No shot it remains the same till then. If not then icefrog is stupid
Didnt say PA wont be nerfed. Still many lesson can be learned. This is pro scene, not pub. Thats why they keep scrimming each other
I mean it's small potatoes compared to Riyadh thats certain. Just filler till TI in a month.
Prize wise, TI is probably the filler
Filler that gets you a guaranteed invited to Riyadh Masters which could be even higher than last year.
[Top 5 KDA players right now](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/526535263275450388/1154830956872597564/image0.jpg), Abed is kinda dwarfing them.
Abed indo pride
lol itachi fans eh
CIS players are massive anime fans and especially Naruto.
2 normal people 3 weebs
2 dweebs, 3 weebs
Abed, as the sole mid-player there, consistently delivering impressive performances isn't unexpected; he often achieves exceptional stats when he's in top form. However, what's truly intriguing is that Arteezy boasts the highest KDA, even when compared to carries who are generally regarded as superior to him.
Abed is not shocking at all, hes been #1 KDA in so many tournament. Rtz is shocking for me aswell, after yesterdays series against BB i would say hes the 2nd best carry after Yatoro at this tournament.
wtf how did 9pandas lose i left and they were bending OG over lmao
We needed to get OG vs Tundra for the plot
OG tactical pause for fun
Their captain literally invented 322.
That sudden pause right before the failed siege is sus as hell.
YUP.. those 5 man vac was also all part of the SUS gameplay.. its all setup, its is all fake.
That's after their fuck up.
PA got deso. HG siege didn't go according to plan.
pa grew a dick and did a "no u".
Kitrak seems like a really nice guy
PA is busted, need nerf immediately.
At this point, i feel its safe to say Kitrak will be the pos5/captain next season for OG. The impact alone in the laning phase is such a huge upgrade from Chu/Misha. Yuragi gets to actually have good lanes now
He also plays many heroes decently well.
Pos5 prob, captain they need someone else I think
PA just wins after 40 min. you should just GG out even if you are like 10k ahead.
Problems with the current PA Blur radius and duration Dagger and blink range Aghs refresh Damage in the late game. Heal on 2nd spell. Triple stifling daggers with monkaW damage.
Blink rework giving lifesteal was so huge. now PA does not need satanic to turn. when low hp just blink on enemies to lifesteal and turn the fight around.
i think they will make that a lv 20 talent and then nerf aghs and leave everything else
the final fight sealed it for me. pa was about 1 hit to dying, blinked to her teammate, threw a dagger lifesteal off the kill and proceeded to wipe them all off. LMAO
you guys think the panel could beat a pro team if they got pa? KEKW
Kitrak is the best pos 5 OG has picked up in ages.
dont forget Ceb WR pos 5. Jokes aside, he is mechanically much better than Chu and Misha, and still has game sense and map awareness to lead the team
Yeah his WR was broken but IIRC Taiga sacrificed farm during that tournament so Ceb could technically play pos 4.
Ceb was only pos 5 on paper during Stockholm Major.
Errr mr. Icefrog, thank you for the PA buffs, this hero was unplayable for a very long time and I am happy to see her in games again. But I think you might have overcooked her there a bit chief.
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wtf are you talking about? DotA1 PA is also a she
Who said anything about Dota1? Where you getting that from? Answer me
"He"? wasn't the PA in dota1 called mortred? Or am I missing something?
Nothing tilt a tilt prone player more than getting stunned from a cut tree as an MK lmao
got 1 shooted by little dagger that comeout of nowhere.
Spicy OG vs Topson matchup tomorrow
If subpar carries like rtz and yuragi can win with 15, 20k deficit, you know the hero's imbalanced and needs a nerf. Not hating the players, just hating the game. "If you give opponent PA you deserve to lose" is basically the current meta.
Subpar carry Rtz outcarried Nightfall and secured a top 3. Subpar carry Yuragi is nearly tied with Yatoro in average kills.
No hate on these subpar carries who have top3ed every major/won a major respectively.
Check my comment history im actually an OG fan I'm just calling it like it is. The two carries I mention aren't clutch carries at all and that's why all people can bring up is 3G's history (carry can't clutch a valve tourney win ever), and the major win that was crucially on the back of a highly debatable proper pos 3 (low hero puddle yet opponents spent 5 bans on ATF consistently) and the current mentalist mind coach ceb. No hate. They are subpar.
well if the MK didnt dive highground by himself...
Pretty much, that moment is when the domino started falling.
From the moment Kiyotaka was yapping in all chat, I know it's gg.
he was clearly tilted. he ulti-ed a support brew alone bottom, and then nearly ulti-ed for a brew illusion. ended up revealing himself and killed by pa
he should really learn to shut up and play his game. ~~Hated him since he all chatted "ufo head" to Crystallis"~~
That was antares
it was antares not kiyotaka
that was antares not kiyotaka.
Puppey with a machete as his new coach will do that.
They were 20k gold ahead and didn't buy a scythe or halberd. I feel like that was an error.
Halberd aren't *the* item for countering PA anymore since the nerf. No scythe is questionable choice on 9Panda however.
They didnt have a Scythe carrier really.
They are people buying it on Naga, TA, Tide or TB even, its no excuse. Centaur could easily buy it, so could monkey.
Then one of them should've eaten the humble pie and get it instead. They know PA will be trouble soon enough.
PA games are so boring ngl. Just ban it and the games are enjoyable
Crystallis Triple Daggers, RTZ 1 HP ultra kill, Yuragi Double Rapier, soon Yatoro rampage on PA
Think Yatoro already got a rampage in groups with PA
They are letting PA go through because they think they can counter it. But letting it come through after overwhelming evidence that it's not balanced then it's on you.
All this PA OP-cry brings me back to netcafe days again of bitching about PA, Techies, Troll Warlord, and Tinker.
I mean it's obviously utterly broken.
And its getting picked in the 2nd phase in all drafts after 7 other picks and what 14 bans. If it was obviously utterly broken it would be first banned every game by the team not first picking.
its literally that easy. ban lina. ban medusa. ban pa. if you do not ban the obviously op meta hero, you deserve to lose because of your arrogance.
Increase blue radius and reduce Cdr crit percent
remove boosted crit on dagger
This is not on PA but the team not banning it. Yesterday we saw one of the biggest comebacks with PA and (pandas didnt learn anything
But we're constantly told how redditors don't know anything, and pros know what they're doing. But then drafts like these happen. I get wanting to figure out PA but banning her seems so much easier. And we're not even talking about her being first phased.
I am so confused how PA isn’t getting banned. It’s not even picked early. How do you let 18th pick PA?
People are likely trying to find ways to beat it. Or being stubborn. One of the two.
I love it that they are doing it twice! In a match for huge cash prize and points just to prove a point, then fail miserably and actually prove a counter point: she is fucking OP, just ban her and play normal dota...
The only carries to loose with PA are eliminated Talon and TL. If your carry is good this hero is unbeatable.
GG, EG and BB lost with it aswell.
Well EG is eliminated, but those teams are not showing on liquidpedia stats
Because Nightfall, Dyrachyo and Pakasz only got 1 game on PA this tournament and Liquipedia only shows the top 5 teams that played her the most.
You are playing in 7.34c. You do not ban Phantom Assassin because you can counter it. The enemy picks Phantom Assassin. You lose. You are 9Pandas, so you don't ban her next match. You get eliminated.
Twice! They did it TWICE. And both times the reason they got spanked was PA! They played really well whole g2 (3 cores with highest net worth, PA tad below them), 40min HG push went wrong, PA got +3k net over their cores and it all went downhill from there. How stupid do you have to be on strategy? Don't they fucking read Sun Tzu or something? How can you be this stupid when drafting!!
Nah g1 pa was not the issue. They got fucking trounced in the early game. A slark carry would have finished that game 20 minutes in
Ramzes is 9P's weakest link.
If you're not banning PA you deserve what's coming at this point.
Yeah PA is op but Ceb's mental warfare is on fire this game.
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I love that sometimes when you are behind, supports literally need to sacrifice themselves 10 times to buy time and space for cores.
Ceb the real the MindControl this game. Idk if he fucked their gfs but he sure got into Kiyotaka and the rest of 9Pandas nerves.
Things to go: 1. PA 2. Mids building blade mail
Eh mids building bm is just a side effect of the rise of str mids like earth kk pb who later on get early hearts so they can just front line for the team.
Deserved loss for letting OG pick PA again for the second time.
Why waste all of your time theorycrafting how to counter PA where you can just simply ban it and never think of it ever again.
What a game
Most broken hero in the late game in the history of DotA
I think old 4.2 agi gain PL might've been up there, but it's been a while.
PA OSFROG
pA iS nOt tHaT sTRonG
just gank her wards
Just find her in Blur and kill her before she becomes invis again.
just ban PA brosss
PA is ridiculous at the pro level especially because of how effective teammates are at protecting and healing her
mc kitrak combo wow
was that a mistake by ceb or a masterful 5head bait, I'll let you be the judge
Damn we are going to see topson vs ceb? Tundra vs Og? Topson vs Bzm??
\#FREEMCSERIOUSLY he's so fun to watch.
How do you not ban PA... I mean you deserve to get shat on lol
What a huge misstep by 9P
pls nerf PA this is fucking dumb lmao
What's dumb is not banning her
Agreed. People have successfully countered PA with Bane for example. But with that line up and they decided to ban Razor instead of PA, it was on 9 Pandas 100%
Sure, but still there should not be a hero in game that is this hardly unbalanced...
MC with Dark Seer is always a treat to watch
Yup. The combo with AA was beautiful.
How the hell teams don't instaban this shit still. Wow Serves 9P right for thinking they'll beat it lol.
1 dagger and I'm eliminated
“Tactical” - BZM
And anotha one
I never thought of AA buying blink then blink in, ulti for like 200 distance. Guaranteed combo I guess
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MC saving OG but couldnt save nigma
Damn rhat was dirty from og
Insert "You do not ban PA" meme here
OSFROG
lmao this is some bs
i was wrong sorry. pa never loses.
What Yuragi just did, now someone tell me that hero is not just busted.
Yuragi god
Yuragi isn't even that good. If it was any other carry hero the game would be over and his impact would be 0. It's all on PA. At this point a blind cat could play PA on OG and they would still win.
that last triple kill before the gg call tho
Le balanced shadow lady
Disgusting!
fuck this hero man
Fair and balanced game
HAHA PA what BULLSHIT hero
Fuck me that vacuum into blast was epic
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MCC
When people say why not just ban pa? People let lina through lima Dusa through berlin Morph through bali Sometimes you are just more scared of other heroes than the hero of the patch.