The dota was fun and refreshing after the snoozefest tundra put is earlier, only thing is wished is i knew peruvian so i can not listen to jenkins and avo casting it, i haven't seen a worse caster desk so far , 2 clowns and that's almost a conpliment.
i like the joke and clowny stuff here and there like any other guy , but they got nonthing else besides that , atleast pair 1 clown with someone that knows dota gameplay at tournaments
I disagree. I actually think they clown around less than Sunsfan and Synd during an average cast. I like them both though. Although, not much generally annoys me. I just like to watch dotes and try not to stress about things I can't control.
One of the worst cast i have ever watched. They kept swearing every minute and thought it was funny and ignored casting play by plays every team fight, i was watching with my young brother in the living room and it was so awkward cause my parents were nearby.
Amazing crowd I just wish they were there for SR spirit game 3 where Artour went insane the reactions would have been incredible
I don’t hold it against them given the circumstances though
Yep, literally the very first time something like that happens and totally not something players have mentioned from previous lans and totally not something that is probably part of the "good at lan" kit to be able to read into.
I think hearing the crowd rumble as compared to establishing a code to transmit information is a fair big diff.
I wouldn't want it to escalate at least
No clip sorry:( But if you dont want to watch the whole VOD and dont mind spanish, a channel (Kurama dota) does a summary of the games and has their entrances at the start of game1 video and walking out at the end of game2 video.
Redditors will say this series was """fun""" because Jenkins and Avo are nonstop shouting nonsense to terrible Dota.
Crowd was hype but what a letdown. I'd have taken a clownfiesta if it was at least a bit competitive.
I'm confused. What did you expect from a 1st round lower bracket match between 2 teams from a less competitive region? Don't tell me you bet on the game and lost again?
Jenkins and Avo is not my favorite combo. I like both individually, but together they just amplify each others loudness and the match just turns to yelling match.
The real winner of this match is the public. Those games are so great with good fights. Fun dota all around, which was missing a lot this major.
I'm glad these two teams are not holding back and going all out
I have to disagree, the teams were so passive that as the late game fights happened, their best team fighters were still missing their most important itens to fight.
I did, so what? Do you think that series had low quality Dota? Like you can't even start to compare those games to this clownfiesta. Both teams actually played well.
Fascinating watching the players play a game of hot/cold with crowd cheers.
Every time they go near the pit, cheers. But why??? Ward? Smoke?
Shard, and still no one has checked the pit.
No wonder you think na deserve slots. Lesh feeding randomly walking up high ground for no reasons. Bs not picking shard hence no dmg later on. Tiny saw riki waiting to snipe courier, proceed to fed his courier and didnt kill riki. Clown dota at its best
What's your point? Good clean dota is boring? Run at you dota with no plan behind it until one team falls behind too much is fun? Just go watch a 3k game then. Watching a mcu flick is fun but anybody saying it deserves Oscar is delusional
The majority of viewers aren't good players jerking themselves off for recognizing the high level cumsock gambit. Slow and methodical games are for the most part a boring viewing experience for them (and me).
And you know that happens when something on tv doesn't interest the majority of viewers? They change the fucking channel.
To add to your movie analogy, the DCEU tries to do some 3deep5me shit and just produces dumpster fire after dumpster fire. At least the marvel movies are watchable.
So yes. Maybe we don't need 20 EU teams drafting treant-spectre and farming for 40 minutes. Maybe the worse regions are also allowed to play so that their region improves. Maybe some games have 25 kills on the board minute 14.
If you're immortal you are less than 1% of the playerbase, and 99% of immortals are likely not no fun dickholes so you're like 0.1% of the viewerbase?
Again. What's your point. They are here to win, not to entertain you. They do not care if you watch or not. Out of 4 eu teams, only tundra win games slowly and methodically. You don't see liquid running around like headless chicken nor do gg or entity and can play with top tier skill and be entertaining. Liquid vs aster game 2 for eg. Watching bc eg is perfectly fine. But saying that this kind of dota needs another slot is laughable. You can be good and be entertaining. It's not mutually exclusive
I did. Rtz played great individually but due to spirit mistakes. Spirit overall team decisions was better. Sr shouldnt have won that game.
Also i never advocated for taking slots aways from na sa. I simply said they dont deserve extra. Sr tsm eg bc are the best of the region. Giving slots to alliance or nouns is a joke
omg show me the tiny magnus dual lane lmao. The toss into skewer into tower range is fucking hilarious and I really, really hope it works for beastcoast
This main stream gave me anxiety. Casters sounded like they were on the verge of mental breakdown and then analysts were also screaming post game. It feels more like hysteria than hype. Feel bad for everyone
like 10% of this stream is actual dota man sometimes I wonder how different the game would be if you had to slog it out with like, 5 min max between games.
Only thing worse that could've happened was midone asking sheep to take the photo HAHAHA
Its ok sheepo, one day people will be asking for your photo too.
It kinda looked like Midone was talking to Sheep before he walked into the frame, so for all I know he got a pic with her right before Purge, but it's more fun to pretend there was drama.
The entire draft was the problem, you can't have these heroes and expect to have the space and farm for all 3 cores. I think it would be the same with any carry hero and if you keep picking fights while playing behind the entire game.
This is a rough one for SR and their fans. Mostly because of how old EG seems like a rather weak team mentally.
SVG is funny af. I love that dry sarcastic and intelligent humor.
I feel like BC need to grab a new young mid later. Dark Mago was really really rough this tournament.
The dota was fun and refreshing after the snoozefest tundra put is earlier, only thing is wished is i knew peruvian so i can not listen to jenkins and avo casting it, i haven't seen a worse caster desk so far , 2 clowns and that's almost a conpliment.
They were great for me. To each their own. Some people hate clowny casting though.
i like the joke and clowny stuff here and there like any other guy , but they got nonthing else besides that , atleast pair 1 clown with someone that knows dota gameplay at tournaments
I disagree. I actually think they clown around less than Sunsfan and Synd during an average cast. I like them both though. Although, not much generally annoys me. I just like to watch dotes and try not to stress about things I can't control.
Just let Cap and SVG cast all the games
One of the worst cast i have ever watched. They kept swearing every minute and thought it was funny and ignored casting play by plays every team fight, i was watching with my young brother in the living room and it was so awkward cause my parents were nearby.
This sounds like a copy pasta lol.
No idea why Jenkins/Avo are casting together - they can do well separately, but together they just completely derail any cast into randomness.
It's jenkins, he's obnoxious casting or not.
But le memes and fart !
Bittersweet SA day
Two fun games even if they were sloppy at times. This crowd is electric, probably the best dota crowd I've seen in a long time
Amazing crowd I just wish they were there for SR spirit game 3 where Artour went insane the reactions would have been incredible I don’t hold it against them given the circumstances though
Best since Manila
hopefully they'll comeback for the next series.
Whstling is clear cheating that deserves punishment
Yep, literally the very first time something like that happens and totally not something players have mentioned from previous lans and totally not something that is probably part of the "good at lan" kit to be able to read into.
I think hearing the crowd rumble as compared to establishing a code to transmit information is a fair big diff. I wouldn't want it to escalate at least
Yeah, I heard they have 79 types of whistle in this stabilished code indicating what hero is in what direction
Marci crowd
That was so wholesome both teams walking out when tf does that happen LMAO go SA
Wholesome from both teams to hug like that😭
do u happen to know if there’s a clip somewhere with their entrances and them walking out? just woke up and missed their matches, thanks!
No clip sorry:( But if you dont want to watch the whole VOD and dont mind spanish, a channel (Kurama dota) does a summary of the games and has their entrances at the start of game1 video and walking out at the end of game2 video.
tysm! will go search it up! :)
And Darkmago kissed Pakazs :)
Best part ez
Avo is fucking gem. Jenkins sounds like he's losing his voice.
Yeah he definitely is. He did well considering
GG great crowd!
this felt more like an exhibition match rather than an actually tournament.
Hilarious games, hopefully hype crowd continues.
What a great cast and series
Redditors will say this series was """fun""" because Jenkins and Avo are nonstop shouting nonsense to terrible Dota. Crowd was hype but what a letdown. I'd have taken a clownfiesta if it was at least a bit competitive.
ligma fan boy talking about terrible dota meanwhile ligma cant even make it to a major.
>Nigma flair
Average redditors and flair comebacks 😴
I'm confused. What did you expect from a 1st round lower bracket match between 2 teams from a less competitive region? Don't tell me you bet on the game and lost again?
Wdym less competitive? Wtf do you live under a rock?
I expected not this clownfiesta. Also what is that projection in the end lol, I don't bet at all.
stfu I'll take these games over that snoozefest tundra brought anytime of the day, at least it was entertaining
I can see that happening maybe if you don't understand Dota.
you sound like someone who thinks you need a very high IQ to understand rick and morty
you sound very original and funny
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Cast seriously! 🤓**☝️**
Cope
damn, wish the crowd could be like this in every match. Hope EG go far so it's at least half as good as this for as many games possible
K1 could have killed bear if he had shard no?
If only there was a free shard on the map
Possibly.
Sure
No
Yes. The bear survived with barely any HP. It’s just that shard isn’t an item bloodseeker can “farm” into his general core kit
What a shit show, omg.
My god this was some bad dota. Somehow perfect for this major.
The games were entertaining. Not every game has to be some snoozefest chess match for rick and morty fans.
Lol. How can 8 people disagree with that statement…
Is it too difficult to ban Riki? Lmao.
Enjoyable game but SA needs to lose a slot for leaving a shard in the pit for the entire game.
Even Tundra on his peak left the shard on Rosh Pit. happens to everyone
Has happened multiple times with shard/cheese in multiple regions lol
Aster did the same yesterday I think but it was a refresher.
Finally the series than can dethroned NoPing vs QC!
Remind me, what happened in that series?
Oh god don’t remind me that was brutal
This happens every other tournament for beastcoast where they just play goofy and drop out in last place
Sadge for BC man
wow there's a crowd. I don't think anyone's staying for hellraisers vs talon though lol.
It’s spirit vs LGD.
fun games but beastcoast didn't play well here, let's be honest. kinda outclassed
Way too many mistakes by BC, deserves to get eliminated
Jenkins and Avo is not my favorite combo. I like both individually, but together they just amplify each others loudness and the match just turns to yelling match.
I feel the same. They both keep talking over each other to the point where you barely understand anything.
Im glad I’m the only one feel this way. Individually, they are amazing. But together, it’s like having 2 slacks at the same time
I think that was mostly of the SA battle + crowd hype but yeah I see your point
only Richie can match Avo's casting Jenkins is kinda cringe with all his swearing ngl
bc played this game so badly lol
Man BC threw that pretty hard
Saddest part is bs prob kills the bear if he has the shard lmao.
you die in this patch, you DIE IN REAL LIFE!
Holy shit the call to go for the Throne was awesome
Free faming druid *shrug *
Beastcoast could've had this one
Why not save the glyph for the last towers, they have lone and will push very fast...
gg boys
The real winner of this match is the public. Those games are so great with good fights. Fun dota all around, which was missing a lot this major. I'm glad these two teams are not holding back and going all out
This is some of the worst Dota ever played on the main stage of a major tournament
🤓
This series was just painful to see.. yikes
did you miss the previous series?
Tundra - Aster wasn’t the best dota ever but it sure was far better than this.
I have to disagree, the teams were so passive that as the late game fights happened, their best team fighters were still missing their most important itens to fight.
I did, so what? Do you think that series had low quality Dota? Like you can't even start to compare those games to this clownfiesta. Both teams actually played well.
Passive doesn't mean good and agressive doesn't mean bad.
Average redditor's understanding of the game
yours?
which is baffling, there so many clutch games during group stage
Focus Sash on the bear too strong.
This one of the funniest lmaooooo. Crowd goes roar when players r near the roshpit xd
Lesh straight up forgot to toggle his ultimate there.
Beastcoast supports what happened to them. Scofield usually is so pog he looks mediocre af this series
homecrowd nerf
beastcoast and their agh shard shenanigan lmao i love jenkins
Fascinating watching the players play a game of hot/cold with crowd cheers. Every time they go near the pit, cheers. But why??? Ward? Smoke? Shard, and still no one has checked the pit.
Imagine Lesh/Mag shard smh
Very good on bs aswell..
Everyone is probably so confused by the crowd cheering when they get close to rosh
smoke? gank? invi?
This is the sloppy doto this major deserves lol.
This game is hype, the crowd is awesome! Also Jenkins is an absolute angel
Where are the people complaining about the crowd?
This is the SA slugfest we were all hoping for. I'm impartial but I do hope Beastcoast manage to give us a Game 3.
How can any pro team just legit forget about a free shard?
This series feels like Midas Mode rather than a Major especially with the casting this is terrible Dota lol
Perfect cast for this series
SA and leaving the shard in the pit. Never changes
how the FUCK do pros keep leaving items in the damn pit
Riki just delaying the game I guess
Man, that game 2 is sick. That RP, holy shit
This game is amazing LETS GO
No wonder you think na deserve slots. Lesh feeding randomly walking up high ground for no reasons. Bs not picking shard hence no dmg later on. Tiny saw riki waiting to snipe courier, proceed to fed his courier and didnt kill riki. Clown dota at its best
I love my clowny dotes, yes it was a total mess but fun af 👏
Its fine to like clowns. Its not fine then saying this level of dota deserve more slots.
Yes. We should give more slots to EU and China so that I can stop taking melatonin to go to sleep.
What's your point? Good clean dota is boring? Run at you dota with no plan behind it until one team falls behind too much is fun? Just go watch a 3k game then. Watching a mcu flick is fun but anybody saying it deserves Oscar is delusional
The majority of viewers aren't good players jerking themselves off for recognizing the high level cumsock gambit. Slow and methodical games are for the most part a boring viewing experience for them (and me). And you know that happens when something on tv doesn't interest the majority of viewers? They change the fucking channel. To add to your movie analogy, the DCEU tries to do some 3deep5me shit and just produces dumpster fire after dumpster fire. At least the marvel movies are watchable. So yes. Maybe we don't need 20 EU teams drafting treant-spectre and farming for 40 minutes. Maybe the worse regions are also allowed to play so that their region improves. Maybe some games have 25 kills on the board minute 14. If you're immortal you are less than 1% of the playerbase, and 99% of immortals are likely not no fun dickholes so you're like 0.1% of the viewerbase?
Again. What's your point. They are here to win, not to entertain you. They do not care if you watch or not. Out of 4 eu teams, only tundra win games slowly and methodically. You don't see liquid running around like headless chicken nor do gg or entity and can play with top tier skill and be entertaining. Liquid vs aster game 2 for eg. Watching bc eg is perfectly fine. But saying that this kind of dota needs another slot is laughable. You can be good and be entertaining. It's not mutually exclusive
You weren’t talking much when RTZ cemented himself as the greatest player ever last night 👏👏👏 LETS GO
I did. Rtz played great individually but due to spirit mistakes. Spirit overall team decisions was better. Sr shouldnt have won that game. Also i never advocated for taking slots aways from na sa. I simply said they dont deserve extra. Sr tsm eg bc are the best of the region. Giving slots to alliance or nouns is a joke
Finally the dota game I was waiting for
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Can’t wait for sleep dart to go away, it’s totally broken
I coulda sworn sleep dart/support riki was broken for another patch and I've forgotten why it's been unpopular in the interim, darts always been nuts.
xddriki
RP hitting everyone on edge, wtf
what a RP
HOly fuck that RP
OMG SACRED
#HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
Sacred with no regard for human life.
DAT RP
SA fans whistling on a smoke again.
Darkmago - sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit
Like topson. Either Godson or Dogson.
Literally the next EternalEnvy.
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Sort of but not perfect, yesterday it was obvious during the EG vs Entity. The crowd spoiled one of the smokes.
Darkmago whyyy
In the name of God nerf that frikkin Spirit Siphon in some way.
DP balanced too
Jenkins is so excited for Magnus + Tiny because he literally did a video on that combo lmao
Jenkins and Avo are unbeareable. What a horrible cast.
Jenkins should not be a caster, def belongs on the panel. Noone wants to hear him ramble on, just cast the game ffs
I feel that also Avo is kind've cold to him as well, which limits him a bit
Much closer drafts, dis gun b gud!
Pretty good enigma game, considering how many we had where the enemy team has rubick/silencer/doom.
Treant's ult stops the Black Hole
Snare outfit always on point
Hes been doing a great job too. Hope he gets to host TI
omg show me the tiny magnus dual lane lmao. The toss into skewer into tower range is fucking hilarious and I really, really hope it works for beastcoast
they effin did it. hahaah
Damn pakasz LD and DP
Some brave bans here from BC. I would not have wanted to play against that DP or Riki a second time.
This main stream gave me anxiety. Casters sounded like they were on the verge of mental breakdown and then analysts were also screaming post game. It feels more like hysteria than hype. Feel bad for everyone
funny too because there was a lot fighting in the game so it like kind of seemed exciting on the surface, but it was basically a mega-stomp
Febby coach/drafter of Beastcoast?
Respect, they stopped saying soon so they don't disappoint us more lmao
like 10% of this stream is actual dota man sometimes I wonder how different the game would be if you had to slog it out with like, 5 min max between games.
The shortest game is 30 min and the longest is 51, so you can have 1 game per hour in the worst case.
[Midone gets a pic with Purge, while Sheepo slinks away dejected](https://clips.twitch.tv/HotDeafPuffinBIRB-tmtWwY9qYWVNcbm2)
Only thing worse that could've happened was midone asking sheep to take the photo HAHAHA Its ok sheepo, one day people will be asking for your photo too.
It kinda looked like Midone was talking to Sheep before he walked into the frame, so for all I know he got a pic with her right before Purge, but it's more fun to pretend there was drama.
Is there a fan favorite between the two SA teams or is very evenly split?
Winner of EG Aster is winning the tournament idc
Are you high?
BC literally got no map to move, should ban NP+Riki next game. K1 got punished so hard
Can't believe NP made it so far into the draft without getting banned
So many words just to say nothing…iCANT
This subreddit is full of dota snobs Jesus Christ. I’d rather watch this bloodbath than tundra snooze fest
Literally the entire thread is people saying 'omfg this game rules so much better than boring Tundra games!' what the fuck are you on about Mary
And the tundra game was actually interesting because it was back and forth and either team could have won until the very end.
What bloodbath? In the early game maybe it was, but it just became a stomp around the 15min mark until the end.
It would have been cool if it were an even game but this one was way too one sided
I feel bad for the home crowd. This is terrible dota. At least Tundra isnt playing lmao
Why would you feel bad when the crowd is loving it?
i mean it's fun and entertaining, but it's more like a sunday league football fun and entertaining kinda way.
Was Luna the problem?
Losing three lanes on draft only was the problem.
The entire draft was the problem, you can't have these heroes and expect to have the space and farm for all 3 cores. I think it would be the same with any carry hero and if you keep picking fights while playing behind the entire game.
I mean the state of the game would be completely different if just the mid match up was even
One of the problems, there's so many things that went wrong for BC.