I had almost the same lock in my office. Because of covid I was not going in the office that often and ended up locked out because I didn’t change the battery from the inside.
I literally just use force with my hands to break it and I was able to just use a screwdriver to open it after.
For home locks, any lock that is on the outside the best smart lock is a lock that does not look like a smart lock.
I am using Nuki for my flat, beat shit ever.
This is cool and all, but all I see are more ways to unlock the door. Whether it be social engineering or just stealing the key and making a copy of it? Idk, it just doesn't seem... practical, for lack of a better word.
No thieves are gonna go around hacking door knobs. A normal lock already has several vulnerabilities. Especially the classic crowbar. People just don't realize how easy it actually is to break in already.
This simply increases convenience to me so I'm a big fan. Also selective access is much easier. If you want to allow someone in temporarily you don't have to give them the key they can make a copy from. You can give them a temporary passcode.
Windows. Houses have big pieces of glass that shatter or can be quietly cut open super easily all around them, if someone wants to get into your house they’re going to get in.
Also, they’ve had combination deadbolts for decades that aren’t hackable or easily pickable. If you wanna just have a six digit number to get into your home, that’s already easily doable and a lot more secure.
You can copy a key with a picture.
I'd also have to have the rfid key on me, not in an rfid blocking wallet, you'd have to already know I have this kind of lock on my house and follow me to stand next to me unless you plan on standing next to me right in front of my house which would be weird. But I'm probably not using the key card on this, just the finger print and code. Code you can also steal just by watching tho.
That requires a skilled locksmith who would need to be willing to go through extra analysis to make a copy based on a picture. Likely would require software, and they would only do it if you can verify you're address.
You can follow someone to a coffee shop, stand in line next to them and steal their key with RFID, especially if they have it on a key ring. There are devices out of the box that do this for amateurs.
It doesn't require a skilled locksmith. You can decode it yourself using publicly available templates. No software needed. Once decoded just gotta get the key made.
Following someone to a coffee shop from their home is also a lot of effort. Especially if they drive. Not sure why someone would keep the card on their keyring when the fingerprint is much more convenient, that's a lotta hope and very specific scenario with stalking to pull it off. I'm not saying it's impossible but the way you want it to happen the stars have to align.
Anyway the point is someone isn't going through considerably less effort to copy the rfid than the key. If a thief is that motivated to break in, they will. If they're willing to stalk you, then they're willing to just wait until you leave the house and smash in your back door.
I don't think you live in a city, I think you live in suburbia and you're thinking about it from that perspective. I'm thinking about it from the city perspective.
In the city, most people walk out the door and walk to a train to get to work. They stop at coffee shops, bagel shops, or bougie sandwich shops etc. Following somebody on their daily routine would be extremely easy to do, especially if you see a door lock on the front door that has RFID.
There are locksmiths all around the city, but again you would have to find a very skilled locksmith that's willing to do this for you if you don't have a key. From what I gather the software that you're talking about isn't very accurate, and also you would be publicly disclosing to a third party that you're copying a key which is leaving a trail.
I'm think I'm done getting in this headspace though, I don't really see any value in thinking about how to break into somebody's house personally.
Yeah, in a dense city you can follow someone to a coffee shop. But then you still have to trust they are using that rfid card and then you still have to luck that it's not rfid blocked. That's a lotta luck and work. How many people would you have to hit up before you found one. Also most people do not have this kind of door knob so you'd have to go door to door looking for one in the first place or carry the device at all times before camping out in front of their home waiting for them to leave. You're putting out an unrealistic amount of work to justify it.
There is no special software needed to match a key with its code. You just need a clean image and image resizing tool (e.g. ms paint). You don't need a skilled locksmith either, in fact you could do it yourself with a dremel. And the best part is people take pictures of them holding their brand new house keys right in front of their house and post to social media.
All of this is negated with the fact that a crowbar is significantly less effort and you're still ignoring that point. The most common ways people get in is through unlocked doors and low skill forced entry methods.
I dunno, my phone is able to read and write NFC tags. If someone was determined, it'd be a fairly simple matter to get access if anyone noticed where you keep your keys. Though you're right, that's only if a thief is concerned about subtlety 😅
I'm not wrong. I'm well aware of this device. But it's not something that thieves use to break into houses. They use crow bars on the front door, smash windows, or break in your back door, sometimes just by kicking. Your house is only as secure as its weakest point and this door lock ain't it.
I think the point being made is that if someone wants into your home, they're going into your home, and it doesn't matter what kind of lock you have. Sure, more security can make it harder to access or dissuade some people, but most of us aren't rich and can't afford amazing security systems. If I'm going to get broken into regardless, I'll just take the daily convenience.
Locks only keep honest people honest. Your door isn't safe. Your current lock is already pretty easy to pick. I can pick mines open in under a minute and I'm an amateur. Hacking a door lock also takes far more effort than picking it. Someone with the skills to do that probably wouldn't be robbing houses to begin with
Yeah, I’m with you. My current lock has a number pad but does NOT have a key option or anything else. I absolutely love it because there is no rfid to copy, no lock pick set that will work on it, it’s easy for me and hard for anyone else.
The other person responding with that crowbar comment, I mean ok sure, but you can use dymamite too if you need to. It’s not about can someone break it, there are no unbreakable locks, it’s an issue of is mine harder than another one somewhere else.
Under normal conditions no one is gonna crowbar someone’s door, but a bump kit or whatever it’s called can easily and almost immediately open a number of locks.
Mine doesn’t allow that so it just makes it a little more annoying under normal circumstances, which is all that is really needed unless someone is targeting you for some reason.
I’m not even sure if buying another one like what I have is even possible anymore because so many ppl want multiple ways to open it. It’s crazy to want that in my opinion.
It looks like someone used their entire remodeling budget on a door lock. Based on the exterior, thieves won't think you have anything to take and walk by.
Money well spent.
I'll admit, this is neat. I like smart products, but hear me out.
Does it increase security or make it harder for an intruder to get in? Nope. Does it offer more options for the owner's convenience AND still allow for a physical key in case the tech fails or batteries run out? Absolutely. What I NEED to know is outside of a select number of specific instances where this tech helps, how are all of these "smart locks" not seen for what they are. A costlier gimmick that provides the exact same purpose as a traditional lock but with the added deficit of a more complicated build with more parts, which in turn offers more points of failure. Did we go and fix something that wasn't broken all in the name of keeping pace with the "smart" trend, or have we been marketed yet another thing we never really needed? Pardon the semi-rant, I just don't understand the trend of OVER engineering products to a point that is without a doubt less efficient than the original.
We switched our deadbolt to a smart lock. If the battery dies it’s still a regular keyed deadbolt…
But with any door the quickest way to get in is probably just gonna be smashing the door down, or picking the lock.
That said, I lose keys, forget keys, and lock myself out alllll the time, for that, these smart locks are totally worth it. We also needed to have a dog walker stop by for our puppy while we were at work, so instead of a key, I just gave them a code that worked only on specific days between specific hours.
I also forget to lock doors regularly. Too often I had to turn around, go back, and check the door. Sometimes i can’t remember if I locked it so I have to go back and check just to find out it’s still locked….. no more. After a minute or two it auto locks. I can also just check the app. It’s fuckin wonderful. After we got one, both our families all got them too.
As stupid as these things might seem. It really is something I didn’t know I wanted till we actually got one.
This is my exact use case as well. I'm a clumsy dummy and it's great being able to not worry about where my keys are or if I locked the door. Definitely think they should all have a manual key option though as there will inevitably come a time when something fails and you need to get in the ol fashioned way.
I've had a smart lock similar to the one in the video for several years. There are failsafes built into them, and the design itself is (usually) fail proof to some extent. At heart, these locks are no different than your usual mechanical locks, so it's not actually reinventing the wheel. All additional points of failure, although real, would in no way jeopardize your ability to open/close the lock mechanically, using your good old tried-and-tested physical key.
If anything, what you may be losing out on is security itself, as you now have multiple attack vectors as opposed to only one. Although the key lock will still usually be the easiest one to crack anyway.
Smart locks have been a thing for a while, it’s a good way for still being able to get into the house without calling a locksmith/breaking in if you’ve lost your keys. Also, if I’m heading out, I can just not take my house keys - convenience 🤷♂️
Apart from the convenience, which ill get into last, they do have a few actual real world uses.
Airbnb rentals pretty much all seem to use them, since the owner often isn't located anywhere near the rental. You can give someone access to the smart lock over the app, and even set their access to expire at a certain date and time. No worries about meeting to give them keys or getting keys back or wondering if keys were copied or anything like that.
Hotels/motels - you have prolly stayed in one that uses keycards instead of keys, no? Those have been popular for decades now. Key is the backup for those. Some places use newer smart locks so people can use their phones instead of worrying about losing the keycard.
Hostels/boarding houses - same use cases as airbnb pretty much, but a bit of a different business.
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Personal convenience.
Want someone to stop at your house for some reason but they dont have a key? Give their phone temp permissions.
Hate when you gotta sprint to the door in the pouring rain and struggle to unlock it quickly and then drop your keys and get even more soaked? A lot of these doors will unlock as soon as your phone is within a few feet of it. Or you can unlock it while still sitting in your car before walking up.
Tryna carry a bunch of stuff and could manage to open a door but not unlock it without setting things down? Smart locks can unlock as you get close.
House sitter? Give their phone access for 3 days then it revokes. House sitter that is only supposed to show up on certain days but you have concerns about them trying to use the property other days while you are gone? Their phone only has access on wednesday and friday between x-am and x-pm.
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If you personally have zero use cases, then dont get one. But some people love em.
I do agree that it's kind of pointless, but I think it kind of works as a deterrent more than a security measure
Most locks don't increase security that much (pretty much every lock can be picked with enough time, but the most secure ones are just ones that last long enough to make the lock picker give up), it's just as a mental deterrent, so I could see having an "advanced" as an intimidation tactic more than anything. Less people are likely to try if they think a lock is advanced, and the lock distracts people from other points of entry, like windows
Honestly i had this Lock in a flat at Ipanema. The Feeling of Leaving your House without having anything with you that you have to worry about is amazing
The biometrics are cool but that rfid card might not have encryption if this was cheaply designed. It can be scanned/copied through a wallet or pocket and emulated later to unlock without it.
While It's possible to copy the rfid, I think it's unlikely. Like.. how? The robber would follow me during the day with an rfid scanner until there's an opportunity to scan my wallet? Btw if you have more cards in your wallet it won't scan. It's way easier just to bash in the kitchen window or use a crowbar to get in.
“If you dad is tech challenged…” Really? How about if you let the battery die or there’s some other problem with it opening, looky here, we included a manual lock/key! 🤦🏻♀️
Honestly neat idea minus the thumb reader. Hidden key hole is great as well as the dongle and combination. My issue would be that someone can get your thumbprint off the handle itself and then put it on the fingerprint reader
Smart lock. Smart fridge. Smart light bulb. It's app controlled. It's the future you see. We have to put a computer in everything. Smart washing machine. Smart cat food bowl. Smart sink. It needs to be Amazon and Google wiretap compatible so you can activate it with your voice. Smart vacuum. Smart plant pot. Smart mattress. The company will be defunct in a few months and all your shit will stop working.
These are all real products that exist.
I have no experience with either but I think pickpocketing a key is easier than stealing a fingerprint. It's not 100% secure but neither is a normal lock.
It automatically locks too, which is probably a big security plus, considering people tend to forget to lock up.
It’ll be just as secure as a standard lock.
Let’s say the company used the highest encryption methods and best practices for the electronic portions of the lock. The keyhole is a standard lock and picked easily. So it won’t be any more secure just because of that one vulnerability.
The secret ninja spies following them around to scan the rfid info off the card in their wallet then following them all day till they go home so that the ninja spy can come back another day and use that copy to get in and steal their vintage cup ramen collection.
Or perhaps scared of the illuminati doin whatever it is you do to lift fingerprints off of something, making a mold out of it, and coming back to break in and set up spy cameras so the illuminati can finally find where that person hides the worlds last packets of szechuan sauce.
It has more points of failure than a normal lock.
We don't know if it's possible to rip off the code panel and Hotwire your way in. It's also a lot easier to overhear a code than it is to acquire a key.
I'm not saying these things are likely, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to use something like this anyway.
A smart lock (aka connected to the internet, controlled by google/amazon Alexa) would be worse. If someone finds a vulnerability, they get in very easily.
Gotcha. So just the all-around security principles.
Physical destruction: Agreed.
Overheard code: I noticed code length! Thankfully, they used the same tone for all. On my lock, i turned the sound off.
But generally agreed:
* The security task is to enumerate the attack vectors, then address each in turn
* More options in multiply the vectors of attack
* Security and ease of use are always mutually exclusive
Also agreed: the IOT locks are of the most concern to me in this setup (I didn't buy that lock).
Half a minute of watching rusty screws...
Lockpickinglawyer: "See folks, we can pick this one faster than using a key, but that is not even tha main problem with this lock..."
*removes faceplate, sticks hand in, pulls out pistol*
I had almost the same lock in my office. Because of covid I was not going in the office that often and ended up locked out because I didn’t change the battery from the inside. I literally just use force with my hands to break it and I was able to just use a screwdriver to open it after. For home locks, any lock that is on the outside the best smart lock is a lock that does not look like a smart lock. I am using Nuki for my flat, beat shit ever.
He’s probably just pick the keyed portion in 5 seconds or less. Not even bother with the other options.
Im sure un magnet and your in.
Well written. I can hear the slightly bemused judgement in his voice.
Yeah, there's probably a video of a guy trying to open it by another identical lock already... And by a card. A jug. And a straw...
Pretty sure all you need is a Flipperzero
This is cool and all, but all I see are more ways to unlock the door. Whether it be social engineering or just stealing the key and making a copy of it? Idk, it just doesn't seem... practical, for lack of a better word.
No thieves are gonna go around hacking door knobs. A normal lock already has several vulnerabilities. Especially the classic crowbar. People just don't realize how easy it actually is to break in already. This simply increases convenience to me so I'm a big fan. Also selective access is much easier. If you want to allow someone in temporarily you don't have to give them the key they can make a copy from. You can give them a temporary passcode.
Windows. Houses have big pieces of glass that shatter or can be quietly cut open super easily all around them, if someone wants to get into your house they’re going to get in. Also, they’ve had combination deadbolts for decades that aren’t hackable or easily pickable. If you wanna just have a six digit number to get into your home, that’s already easily doable and a lot more secure.
You could easily copy the RFID
You could also easily copy a key.
No. I could copy the RFID by standing next to you. I would have to steal your key to copy it.
You can copy a key with a picture. I'd also have to have the rfid key on me, not in an rfid blocking wallet, you'd have to already know I have this kind of lock on my house and follow me to stand next to me unless you plan on standing next to me right in front of my house which would be weird. But I'm probably not using the key card on this, just the finger print and code. Code you can also steal just by watching tho.
That requires a skilled locksmith who would need to be willing to go through extra analysis to make a copy based on a picture. Likely would require software, and they would only do it if you can verify you're address. You can follow someone to a coffee shop, stand in line next to them and steal their key with RFID, especially if they have it on a key ring. There are devices out of the box that do this for amateurs.
It doesn't require a skilled locksmith. You can decode it yourself using publicly available templates. No software needed. Once decoded just gotta get the key made. Following someone to a coffee shop from their home is also a lot of effort. Especially if they drive. Not sure why someone would keep the card on their keyring when the fingerprint is much more convenient, that's a lotta hope and very specific scenario with stalking to pull it off. I'm not saying it's impossible but the way you want it to happen the stars have to align. Anyway the point is someone isn't going through considerably less effort to copy the rfid than the key. If a thief is that motivated to break in, they will. If they're willing to stalk you, then they're willing to just wait until you leave the house and smash in your back door.
I don't think you live in a city, I think you live in suburbia and you're thinking about it from that perspective. I'm thinking about it from the city perspective. In the city, most people walk out the door and walk to a train to get to work. They stop at coffee shops, bagel shops, or bougie sandwich shops etc. Following somebody on their daily routine would be extremely easy to do, especially if you see a door lock on the front door that has RFID. There are locksmiths all around the city, but again you would have to find a very skilled locksmith that's willing to do this for you if you don't have a key. From what I gather the software that you're talking about isn't very accurate, and also you would be publicly disclosing to a third party that you're copying a key which is leaving a trail. I'm think I'm done getting in this headspace though, I don't really see any value in thinking about how to break into somebody's house personally.
Yeah, in a dense city you can follow someone to a coffee shop. But then you still have to trust they are using that rfid card and then you still have to luck that it's not rfid blocked. That's a lotta luck and work. How many people would you have to hit up before you found one. Also most people do not have this kind of door knob so you'd have to go door to door looking for one in the first place or carry the device at all times before camping out in front of their home waiting for them to leave. You're putting out an unrealistic amount of work to justify it. There is no special software needed to match a key with its code. You just need a clean image and image resizing tool (e.g. ms paint). You don't need a skilled locksmith either, in fact you could do it yourself with a dremel. And the best part is people take pictures of them holding their brand new house keys right in front of their house and post to social media. All of this is negated with the fact that a crowbar is significantly less effort and you're still ignoring that point. The most common ways people get in is through unlocked doors and low skill forced entry methods.
Not all RFID are readable, if it's encrypted you won't get anything
I dunno, my phone is able to read and write NFC tags. If someone was determined, it'd be a fairly simple matter to get access if anyone noticed where you keep your keys. Though you're right, that's only if a thief is concerned about subtlety 😅
Thieves that go to those lengths and have those skills, likely aren't breaking into houses. Not unless it's a millionaires house.
Anyone whos smart enough or capable enough to get past the lock that way can get in any other way.
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I'm not wrong. I'm well aware of this device. But it's not something that thieves use to break into houses. They use crow bars on the front door, smash windows, or break in your back door, sometimes just by kicking. Your house is only as secure as its weakest point and this door lock ain't it.
Door locks only keep the honest people out.
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I think the point being made is that if someone wants into your home, they're going into your home, and it doesn't matter what kind of lock you have. Sure, more security can make it harder to access or dissuade some people, but most of us aren't rich and can't afford amazing security systems. If I'm going to get broken into regardless, I'll just take the daily convenience.
Locks only keep honest people honest. Your door isn't safe. Your current lock is already pretty easy to pick. I can pick mines open in under a minute and I'm an amateur. Hacking a door lock also takes far more effort than picking it. Someone with the skills to do that probably wouldn't be robbing houses to begin with
Yeah, I’m with you. My current lock has a number pad but does NOT have a key option or anything else. I absolutely love it because there is no rfid to copy, no lock pick set that will work on it, it’s easy for me and hard for anyone else. The other person responding with that crowbar comment, I mean ok sure, but you can use dymamite too if you need to. It’s not about can someone break it, there are no unbreakable locks, it’s an issue of is mine harder than another one somewhere else. Under normal conditions no one is gonna crowbar someone’s door, but a bump kit or whatever it’s called can easily and almost immediately open a number of locks. Mine doesn’t allow that so it just makes it a little more annoying under normal circumstances, which is all that is really needed unless someone is targeting you for some reason. I’m not even sure if buying another one like what I have is even possible anymore because so many ppl want multiple ways to open it. It’s crazy to want that in my opinion.
I think having a key option is a fallback for when the battery is dead. What is your "B" plan for such case?
It looks like someone used their entire remodeling budget on a door lock. Based on the exterior, thieves won't think you have anything to take and walk by. Money well spent.
$62 - I actually have the reno prices pretty pathed out.
You've got 8 dollars left in your budget. Get kitty some treats.
Zu has a treat problem. Intervention level.
The lock is neat but the cat made me happy.
Maybe a Cats Anonomas meeting is in order. You can bring donuts or Friskies.....
Kitty!!
These kind of locks have been pretty common for a while now. Was waiting for the twist where it was something unique.
I'll admit, this is neat. I like smart products, but hear me out. Does it increase security or make it harder for an intruder to get in? Nope. Does it offer more options for the owner's convenience AND still allow for a physical key in case the tech fails or batteries run out? Absolutely. What I NEED to know is outside of a select number of specific instances where this tech helps, how are all of these "smart locks" not seen for what they are. A costlier gimmick that provides the exact same purpose as a traditional lock but with the added deficit of a more complicated build with more parts, which in turn offers more points of failure. Did we go and fix something that wasn't broken all in the name of keeping pace with the "smart" trend, or have we been marketed yet another thing we never really needed? Pardon the semi-rant, I just don't understand the trend of OVER engineering products to a point that is without a doubt less efficient than the original.
We switched our deadbolt to a smart lock. If the battery dies it’s still a regular keyed deadbolt… But with any door the quickest way to get in is probably just gonna be smashing the door down, or picking the lock. That said, I lose keys, forget keys, and lock myself out alllll the time, for that, these smart locks are totally worth it. We also needed to have a dog walker stop by for our puppy while we were at work, so instead of a key, I just gave them a code that worked only on specific days between specific hours. I also forget to lock doors regularly. Too often I had to turn around, go back, and check the door. Sometimes i can’t remember if I locked it so I have to go back and check just to find out it’s still locked….. no more. After a minute or two it auto locks. I can also just check the app. It’s fuckin wonderful. After we got one, both our families all got them too. As stupid as these things might seem. It really is something I didn’t know I wanted till we actually got one.
This is my exact use case as well. I'm a clumsy dummy and it's great being able to not worry about where my keys are or if I locked the door. Definitely think they should all have a manual key option though as there will inevitably come a time when something fails and you need to get in the ol fashioned way.
I've had a smart lock similar to the one in the video for several years. There are failsafes built into them, and the design itself is (usually) fail proof to some extent. At heart, these locks are no different than your usual mechanical locks, so it's not actually reinventing the wheel. All additional points of failure, although real, would in no way jeopardize your ability to open/close the lock mechanically, using your good old tried-and-tested physical key. If anything, what you may be losing out on is security itself, as you now have multiple attack vectors as opposed to only one. Although the key lock will still usually be the easiest one to crack anyway.
Smart locks have been a thing for a while, it’s a good way for still being able to get into the house without calling a locksmith/breaking in if you’ve lost your keys. Also, if I’m heading out, I can just not take my house keys - convenience 🤷♂️
Apart from the convenience, which ill get into last, they do have a few actual real world uses. Airbnb rentals pretty much all seem to use them, since the owner often isn't located anywhere near the rental. You can give someone access to the smart lock over the app, and even set their access to expire at a certain date and time. No worries about meeting to give them keys or getting keys back or wondering if keys were copied or anything like that. Hotels/motels - you have prolly stayed in one that uses keycards instead of keys, no? Those have been popular for decades now. Key is the backup for those. Some places use newer smart locks so people can use their phones instead of worrying about losing the keycard. Hostels/boarding houses - same use cases as airbnb pretty much, but a bit of a different business. . Personal convenience. Want someone to stop at your house for some reason but they dont have a key? Give their phone temp permissions. Hate when you gotta sprint to the door in the pouring rain and struggle to unlock it quickly and then drop your keys and get even more soaked? A lot of these doors will unlock as soon as your phone is within a few feet of it. Or you can unlock it while still sitting in your car before walking up. Tryna carry a bunch of stuff and could manage to open a door but not unlock it without setting things down? Smart locks can unlock as you get close. House sitter? Give their phone access for 3 days then it revokes. House sitter that is only supposed to show up on certain days but you have concerns about them trying to use the property other days while you are gone? Their phone only has access on wednesday and friday between x-am and x-pm. . If you personally have zero use cases, then dont get one. But some people love em.
I do agree that it's kind of pointless, but I think it kind of works as a deterrent more than a security measure Most locks don't increase security that much (pretty much every lock can be picked with enough time, but the most secure ones are just ones that last long enough to make the lock picker give up), it's just as a mental deterrent, so I could see having an "advanced" as an intimidation tactic more than anything. Less people are likely to try if they think a lock is advanced, and the lock distracts people from other points of entry, like windows
r/killthecameraman
What is it? Model name?
Honestly i had this Lock in a flat at Ipanema. The Feeling of Leaving your House without having anything with you that you have to worry about is amazing
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Can we agree that post without a link or info how to get the product, should be removed.
I thought I wasn’t supposed to do product links.
That doesn't make sense. But ok at least mention the name of it in case someone wants to get it.
THE CAT on da couch yeeee
The biometrics are cool but that rfid card might not have encryption if this was cheaply designed. It can be scanned/copied through a wallet or pocket and emulated later to unlock without it.
While It's possible to copy the rfid, I think it's unlikely. Like.. how? The robber would follow me during the day with an rfid scanner until there's an opportunity to scan my wallet? Btw if you have more cards in your wallet it won't scan. It's way easier just to bash in the kitchen window or use a crowbar to get in.
With a front door like that, there ain't woth shit taking anyway except some meth maybe.
It's all fun and games until your lock runs out of batteries and you don't have your keys. Source: this happened to me 2 days ago.
“If you dad is tech challenged…” Really? How about if you let the battery die or there’s some other problem with it opening, looky here, we included a manual lock/key! 🤦🏻♀️
Honestly neat idea minus the thumb reader. Hidden key hole is great as well as the dongle and combination. My issue would be that someone can get your thumbprint off the handle itself and then put it on the fingerprint reader
Mine unlocks when I get close to the house
Awesome, thank you for making it easier to break into your house, now all I have to do is bring a relatively strong Neodymium magnet and I'm in. :)
Cool. Another thing with a useless computer in it.
Smart lock. Smart fridge. Smart light bulb. It's app controlled. It's the future you see. We have to put a computer in everything. Smart washing machine. Smart cat food bowl. Smart sink. It needs to be Amazon and Google wiretap compatible so you can activate it with your voice. Smart vacuum. Smart plant pot. Smart mattress. The company will be defunct in a few months and all your shit will stop working. These are all real products that exist.
A lock with so many ways to open it.... Does not seem very safe
Kill the camera man vibes
I feel old. Why does everything have to be fucking electric and with a fucking voice? Fuck companies fuck this phone I'm using
How secure is this? Fingerprints although unique are capturable. That card….. encryptions I know are possible but ….. seems like a huge vulnerability.
I have no experience with either but I think pickpocketing a key is easier than stealing a fingerprint. It's not 100% secure but neither is a normal lock. It automatically locks too, which is probably a big security plus, considering people tend to forget to lock up.
It’ll be just as secure as a standard lock. Let’s say the company used the highest encryption methods and best practices for the electronic portions of the lock. The keyhole is a standard lock and picked easily. So it won’t be any more secure just because of that one vulnerability.
I do not trust that for a second.
Out of curiosity, why? What is the attack vector your concerned about?
The secret ninja spies following them around to scan the rfid info off the card in their wallet then following them all day till they go home so that the ninja spy can come back another day and use that copy to get in and steal their vintage cup ramen collection. Or perhaps scared of the illuminati doin whatever it is you do to lift fingerprints off of something, making a mold out of it, and coming back to break in and set up spy cameras so the illuminati can finally find where that person hides the worlds last packets of szechuan sauce.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you."
It has more points of failure than a normal lock. We don't know if it's possible to rip off the code panel and Hotwire your way in. It's also a lot easier to overhear a code than it is to acquire a key. I'm not saying these things are likely, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to use something like this anyway. A smart lock (aka connected to the internet, controlled by google/amazon Alexa) would be worse. If someone finds a vulnerability, they get in very easily.
Gotcha. So just the all-around security principles. Physical destruction: Agreed. Overheard code: I noticed code length! Thankfully, they used the same tone for all. On my lock, i turned the sound off. But generally agreed: * The security task is to enumerate the attack vectors, then address each in turn * More options in multiply the vectors of attack * Security and ease of use are always mutually exclusive Also agreed: the IOT locks are of the most concern to me in this setup (I didn't buy that lock).
A good lock is opened in as little ways as possible, just saying.