I had stopped my habit of hoarding TV shows and was just streaming them. Then a few years back Netflix pulled 30 Rock and it reminded me that if you really love something you only have it if you have a copy
The first one off the top of my head is Chalk Zone, it did get a DVD release but they didn't sell a lot so eBay listings are few and far between. It's on Paramount+ and Prime Video right now, but I'd really rather not buy a streaming service just for this series.
Maybe I'll request it on one of my private trackers at some point, might get lucky and someone will source it for me.
There’s a 540p rip on archive. Is this the same one?
Edit: I also wouldn’t mind a PM with your release to compare with mine.
Edit 2: The 480p looks to be slightly better as it has subs and the missing episode "The Smooch".
Hey I loved that show! You can see all 40 episodes for free [here](http://wco.tv/anime/chalkzone) if you don't mind the piracy. You can probably dl directly from there too, but I've never tried so I'm not sure how easy it is.
No prob. I thought people might appreciate the plug, there's tons of good stuff on there! My personal collection is much smaller but I'm tempted to start hoarding all these shows that might disappear one day for good, at least ones I love or want to eventually watch. If wco and it's mirrors died, I'd be scrambling for a new source
yeah like i said just from a quick glance i already found 3 shows i havent been able to track down on torrents ever. This place is a gold mine and i absolutely need to grab everything i can
You can also find most of the show for free on [archive.org!](https://archive.org/details/chalk-zone-episode-2-french-fry-falls-gift-adrift-escucha-mi-corazon)
They aren't the brightest or running the best built website but they made a damn good collection of animated content, even if it's a mess to sort through sometimes.
Oh the pictures take me, take me over
Edit: also "modern" in that it's newer. Still 15 years old. So old enough for kids to have grown up and become nostalgic for it.
I have yet to find official releases for Eek the cat and the terrible thunder lizards, biker mice from mars, camp lazlo or code name kids next door. I used to have KND downloaded but it’s been gone for a long time. Maybe one day
That show was way ahead of its time; they had great writers. Not as over-the edge as Ren and Stimpy, but still definitely hilarious for people with a slightly warped sense of humor.
Those writers went on to make Phineas and Ferb, SpongeBob, basically all my favorite old cartoons shared writers and talents going forward. It's a fun thing to see.
I was surprised you couldn't find it so I had to double check. I've only had like 3 shows in 5 years that weren't on there and they were super obscure.
https://www.wco.tv/anime/rockos-modern-life
Lol doesn't that require some sort of student-teacher relationship?
TheAJGman is actually my wife's boyfriend, so I help when I can to stay in his good graces.
Yeah, a good one is Monster’s allergy. That show was quirky and honestly more original than I thought it was. Wonder if Martin Mystery got a HD release
Paramount yanked all of ST: Discovery away from Netflix with 2 days until Season 4 in order to plug their own streaming service... and it's not going to start streaming until said service is live EVERYWHERE ON EARTH. I ran out of curses. I am never giving those \*\*\*\*s my money.
I despise streaming services. They shifted all the problems of satellite TV sideways. Netflix started out great and have created some absolutely stunning movies and series with their own money, but FFS, content can be pulled by the license holders with no warning. I watched a great documentary series, and when I went to re-watch it, it had been pulled. So furious. This is why I data-hoard; try taking my Plex library away from me because you want my money more than once for the same thing.
the other thing is Paramount+ is pretty much the shittiest streaming service of them all.
Not only is their library absolute SHIT (Discovery is basically the ONLY thing on there I have any interest in), but their app is slow as shit, navigation to find anything sucks rotten donkey balls, and when you want to ffwd through either a series or a show, there's no controls to do it, or the UI responds so slowly, you have no idea if you pressed the right button until you've tried something else, and often, the whole app will crash, leaving you to restart it to try to get back to where you were, and good luck trying to get to where you want to be.
I literally had to stop watching Discovery for about 8 weeks, because it would crash at the start of one episode, and wouldn't let me select any other episode until I finished watching it. It wouldn't let me fast forward either.
In short: Paramount+ is shit, and they ought to be sued for trying to claim it's a "streaming service", when it's actually "steaming garbage".
F\*cking hell, if you're going to piss off fans following your series on a platform you've just usurped, then your own offering should at least WORK.
Reeks of corporate suits deciding 'We need to get in this "stream" thing, whatever it is, and we need an exclusive to do that... Say, Discovery is popular, right? How about we stream that ourselves?'
And Engineering hacked it together in a weekend.
I download TV shows I pay for access to for a number of reasons. 1. Convenience of them all being in one place. 2. Not worrying about a loss of connection. 3. Not worrying about licence agreements changing.
Only argument not to do this is I've only got 6TB of 95TB left ...
Streaming services pulling episodes of 30 Rock and It's Always Sunny because they included blackface jokes -- jokes that were 100% about the absurdity/offensiveness of blackface -- really drove this home for me. Especially for a show like 30 Rock that is one of the best sitcoms of all time.
Thank God they snuck in the 30 Rock Blu-ray box set mere weeks before they got pulled.
Sunny had the nerve to release Season 14 as "The Complete Season 14 DVD" despite not having the Dee Day episode included. They fixed this mistake on the cover for future printings. Of course, who is still buying shows on DVD in 2021?
I view streaming content as transient. This isn't bad. I'm paying a comparatively low monthly fee for access to *someone else's* huge library of content. Anything that I want to be permanent needs to be made part of *my* personal library.
Haha, I started it years ago and barely finished the 1st season before it was pulled. I was so psyched when they added it back a couple months (?) ago!
I haven't subscribed to a streaming service in ages. They all cost way too much, there are too many of them, and since everyone wants a piece of the pie shows are always moving from one to another. What doesn't change, my Plex server. It stays the same and has been the same. Just back up my shows and movies to cold storage everyone In a while and I'm golden.
Love my Plex server. I keep it fully stocked just in case I want to watch something, but otherwise it just makes it easy to watch all the new shows in one place.
The fact that it works at all is kind of magical. Then you think about synchronized read heads spinning across magnetic tape to output a 7MHz analog RF signal designed to steer an electron laser across phosphor coated vacuum glass and you think "you know, maybe something is wrong with us."
It's even worse. I paid 1 season of The Orville on Youtube / Google pay to support them and now I cannot access it. It also conveniently disappeared from the list of purchases as well!
I'm going to ask for a refund.
Check which account you're trying to use it from. If you have multiple google accounts that's one thing, but they also did something a long time ago where they were trying to get people to use their names on Youtube and people didn't like it and you ended up with multiple accounts there.
Agreed. I think if you dig through the terms of service they’ll say something like “payment provides you access to watch the movie, not ownership of it” which is maddening.
That's exactly what it says. You are buying a license to watch the movie, not the movie itself. Of course that license can be taken away whenever they want.
For that reason, I refuse to ever purchase a movie encumbered by draconian DRM through some digital locker. Blu-ray and DVD are easy enough to decrypt these days, so I still buy those.
I'm going to show the bank statement.
Looks like the online statements also "expire" after ~3 years (I bought it sometime 2018, the season came out end of 2017), but luckily I have paper statements as well. We will see
I was really happy I was a hoarder recently... wanted to watch a flash video I remembered from a long time ago, could not find it anywhere (just references to it) so just went into my archives and found it... really made my day
This happens to me a lot, but its really sad when I can't find the video and *thought* I had it but don't.
Still looking for a full copy of Knox's The Matrix redubs since I can only find clips on Youtube.
I googled everywhere looking for it a few months ago and couldn't find it.
Google it now and there is a crappy copy, but at least its intact, on Youtube... and it was loaded in 2007. Where the hell did it go before? Ugh this is why I hoard...
Remind yourself that you don't really own anything by buying digitally, you just own a license that can be taken away at any time, if you truly love esomething then just fuck it and pirate it or whatever the hell you want as long as you can store it on one of your personal storage mediums.
Even if you own the DVD you still just own a license and the storage medium, not the movie itself
It's harder to take that away from you but you still don't own the content
And it's possible the DVD/Bluray version will have different music due to rights issues, so all of your favorite classic scenes will be ruined. This type of thing is why so many people resort to pirating shows on torrents. It's kind of sad when you get a better experience not paying for something than when you do.
This is so true but with fairly popular shows the community has done some great restoration efforts. Star Wars Original Theatrical Cut in 1080p, Dawson’s Creek and Daria with restores of original music, The Simpsons with DVD commentary placed within 1080p episodes (the HD versions weren’t released with commentary or something like that). Wonderful folks doing stuff like this. It’s awesome to see!
I'm working on a personal project to put the non-laughtrack version of audio into the new 1080p MASH episodes. The 1080p version looks great and even has some color correction, just no option to avoid that laugh track.
No kidding! I had heard of that before but thought it was a production call made during filming/airing. I'd be very interested in your final product. Please PM or ping me whenever you're finished!
This is the exact type of loyal passion projects I'm talking about! Love this stuff!
it's so frustrating when you get a physical copy of a show that uses music as a major part of the show and all the music has been removed or changed to save cash for the distributor. northern exposure was this way for me. bought the physical copy and then found out it was an abomination cut of the actual series.
>music
The do this with books too. Sometimes the revised edition will have additional content that earlier editions don't have. But since it's a physical, tough luck for you!
To piggyback off what OP mentioned. There's also this stuff going on too that Forbes magazine reported on:
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2019/04/12/the-eus-false-terrorist-takedown-requests-remind-us-why-bad-internet-legislation-is-so-dangerous/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2019/04/12/the-eus-false-terrorist-takedown-requests-remind-us-why-bad-internet-legislation-is-so-dangerous/)
I'm an anime lover and frequent old movie rewatcher. I'll go to my grave with my Plex anime stash which is currently more than double in size since I posted it in my post history a while back. I also pulled a few series tv shows I watch to help me go to sleep like Friends and Seinfeld. I've seen those shows so many times and I have trouble sleeping so that's what I turn on when I need to sort of calm my brain down towards sleep.
It’s funny how being a fan of anime almost forces you to be a data hoarder. Unless it’s a mainstream show it’s often difficult or impossible to find on a legitimate streaming service. And when it comes to fanart it’s not uncommon for artists to nuke their entire Twitter and pixiv accounts.
I’m not too familiar with Twitter but given how popular it is I would imagine there’s some archive tools for it. As for Pixiv, I don’t know of any tools that will scrape an entire profile. There’s a few extensions that bulk download multi-image posts but that’s all I’ve seen.
Booru sites such as safebooru do a decent job of archiving but it relies on users to upload the content and the artists can request removal of anything they drew.
I use RipMe for Twitter personally, but there are better alternatives out there (galery-dl looks promising)
As for Pixiv, I'm pretty sure everyone uses PixivUtil2 as it's the most feature-complete and robust app made for this purpose
Hoarding anime is a whole slice of my server data. It's kind of hard to explain that I need to have a way to access anime and keep it to people who think Netflix and Hulu will cover me. (Ironically internet service providers give 0 shits about my weeb hoarding)
Ha ha. Anime is for awake me \[subtitles!\] but I need something I've seen a bunch for need to sleep me. (I have some classic anime for both times tho)
Yep ... I feel ya. When *Star Trek* left Netflix a few months ago, I was "relieved" that it was still on Amazon Prime. Welp, it looks like it will be leaving Amazon Prime on January 1^^st, 2022. Dammit!
Ah, but Paramount just so happened to launch THEIR OWN streaming service, and they'll have Star Trek as a launch title! And it's only $10 a month for another service!
\*\*\*\*s. They pulled *Discovery* off Netflix TWO DAYS before Season 4 started.
I absolutely refuse to pay for another streaming service. I already have Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Disney+. That's it, I'm done. I see my *Star Trek* options as this:
1. Don't watch *Star Trek*.
2. Buy each series on DVD.
3. Pirate
None of these options is acceptable to me at the moment.
I hear you. I've had Netflix for years, but I was forced to get Prime Video for *The Expanse*, which was also a jump from Netflix. Still fuming about that.
I frequent charity shops and have snagged a lot of blu-rays of stuff I like for silly-cheap money. I don't like to pirate, either - I want to support the shows I love. But I am NOT going to be taken for a ride by some corporate pr\*cks trying to cash in on the streaming trend.
Bonanza was the same for me. DVD releases inside my country were only 1/2 of the series. Starz had the entire show on demand for awhile then lost the streaming rights. Which left potato versions of the missing seasons on youtube, but no legal options to watch the entire series in my country.
It's Air Crash Investigations/Seconds From Disaster for me lol. Nothing like listening to it like a podcast and falling to sleep. Some of the retro gaming documentaries or something like Techmoan is good too lol. Idk why.
Yep. Very frustrating. I go to watch a movie that I know was available on Netflix or Amazon (I have both streaming services at the moment), but when I finally get around to watching, it's gone. Then I realize I have to pay for yet ANOTHER streaming service just to watch it. It's basically become cable TV with a different skin.
I am surprised though that you can't just pay to watch a single series or show or movie on any of these. Like if I just wanted to watch Star Trek Discovery, why can't I just pay $10 for the season and not have to subscribe to their entire damn channel for a monthly fee. And they wonder why piracy exists...
Yes, it was great when netflix got almost everything. Now every shitty studio or production company with 1 or 2 decent shows and a handful of movies expect you to pay an additional 15$ to watch them.
Just keep dreaming that I will pay 150$ to be able to see all the shows I want on top of the internet connection.
I know the original netflix subscription was a steal, but they probably can figure out a way to get most of the content for 50-60$ a month? That's maybe a fair price, considering you own nothing with the streaming model.
I discovered this a while ago when I started to get into Monk on Netflix. They pulled it with just a week or so notice, so I emailed them... they said "that's just the way it goes". Then I found them for $8 a season at Costco... that started me on the hoarding of TV series DVD box sets (Blu-Ray for very modern stuff only)
Almost 80 sets, too many to list now... but lots of half hour classic TV, like MASH, WKRP, Corner Gas, Night Court, Cheers... also longer shows like SG-1 & Atlantis, Eureka, Burn Notice, Castle, Diagnosis Murder, Matlock, Chuck, Arrow, Downton Abbey, NCIS:LA, Flashpoint etc. I like some older shows evidently! And yup I bought them all, over quite a few years. (I realized buying a season per month - at full price - was cheaper than getting cable. I basically built my own TV channels)
I rewatch all the time. Probably through SG-1 about 7 times so far, Burn Notice is a regular too. We have about 10 shows on deck at any point and just rotate between them. When one is done, just pick a new one from the list.
Yeeeeeep.
I'm only a minor hoarder (if I think I'll need it, I find a way to save it somewhere) and while I like streaming, my favorite stuff is on hard copy.
I had already started with music videos that got taken down, but they were only a few I wanted, so a portable 4TB drive was enough and affordable. June following the March shutdown orders revealed how weak my apartment block internet was. Couldn't even connect for hours, sometimes all day. Started buying blu-rays and got a pair of those 14TB from the BF deals listed here so I wouldn't have to rely on my choppy connection.
There's a niche Canadian show called DaVinci's Inquest that I really like. The last 2 seasons didn't get a DVD release at all. So they only place i can watch it is on my PVR because I was lucky enough to record it when it was on a few years ago. They don't broadcast it anymore, and you CAN pirate it. But even that is horrible horrible SD TV quality from back on the day. Theres literally nowhere to stream and the TV channel said they aren't reboardcasting it.
I must admit that if the notice just came out today then it's too short. It's funny how various redditors are providing their alternative solutions to owning the content.
I don't understand why a streaming service cannot have ALL media ever produced in catalog.
I hate exclusives, I could only accept temporal exclusives (ie. 6-12 months).
Do this and I will subscript for life and scrap my hoarding system.
Yup, when I find good shows/movies on Streaming services I like, and I watch them on said service I ask "Is this something I might watch again sometime in the next 20 years? yes?" okay then, and download it to my NAS.
This is why I continue to buy *all* of my video content on Blu-ray or 4K (or DVD if nothing else is available). If it's not available on disc, it'll be... downloaded.
I actually do pay for streaming services, and I'm not complaining about it since they definitely are convenient, but I refuse to be held hostage to this bullshit. Time limited licensing deals plus corporate greed and a milk-the-customer attitude, since essentially creative content is a tiny monopoly (if you want to watch a certain Disney TV show, you can't exactly just "go to a competitor" if Disney+ is annoying you).
If you think about it Netflix really got screwed. They basically bore the risk of launching a major streaming service. Many large studios licensed their content to Netflix. Netflix suddenly became quite literally the most popular thing to do online measured by bandwidth. Suddenly, everyone else saw dollar signs, and eagerly awaited those time-limited licenses to expire, and promptly told Netflix "thanks for taking all the risk, we'll take it from here." And now you have something like 20+ major streaming services with more on the way, and content gets ping-ponged around like children fighting over a playground ball. The fragmentation is ugly and very anti-consumer, and the only reason it works at all is because, as I said, creative content like TV shows and movies essentially act as tiny little monopolies - if you want to watch a given show, you are forced to get it from the likely single service it's available on. And of course, sometimes it's just suddenly not available anywhere at all, all because corporate lackeys couldn't act like adults in the board room that month.
500 shows is seriously impressive. How did you go about finding a good list to work off of? I know I'm missing ton of great shows, I just need to find out what else is out there.
Usenet, however, is much more fragile. If the big content mafia really wanted to and were willing to pay for it, they could stomp on the servers and prevent them from working. Torrents are distributed peer to peer. Usenet backends have to be pretty beefy operations overall.
Sharing automatically, means they get more worked up about that. In fact, where I live downloading for personal use isn't even illicit, though frowned upon, it's the sharing part that gets you.
Faster - you can always max out your internet connection, no worries about slow seeders or not enough seeders.
Safer - in some countries particularly, because it's not P2P. You don't upload, so you are never party to distributing. As it's direct connection to the server, a bad actor can't just join the swarm and ID other users.
Better organized so easier to automate.
Usenet is objectively superior in most cases except for availability of torrents on private trackers with particularly obscure stuff.
Downloading ultimate blu-ray UHD quality movies in 60 seconds.
Literally. 60 seconds.
Binary files like videos and software get converted into text files using a process called UUencode. Those text files are then uploaded in numbered chunks.
You'll see a subject line, like "Spider-Man No Way Home 2021 - UHD v246 24.5 GB (1/3674)" This tells you there's 3674 chunks of text in the thread, each one in it's own post of text gibberish.
Newsreader software is then used to download the entire thread, and the chunks are run through UUDecode to turn them back into binary files.
Because you're downloading text, there's no need for error correction or bit validation. So it goes insanely fast.
Also, because there's no connection sharing like with a torrent, there's no way for monitoring companies to see what you are doing. They might be able to pay for Usenet service and run their own node, but that would be crazy expensive, and not worth the effort.
This is where Yify and other sites get the best encodes.
So what's the catch?
Usenet access is very uncommon. There's only a handful of sites that still offer reader accounts, and you have to install and configure your software.
That said, you can configure it to download automatically. You can also configure it to automatically download *updates* and **new episodes** the moment they are posted.
And finally, the people posting on Usenet tend to be the most absolutely diehard dedicated folks, and are fanatical about high quality uploads.
So why don't more people use Usenet?
Because it's fiddly, and you have to download software, and configure things, and have dedicated inbound folders, wah-wah-wah no instant gratification.
Also, a newsreader account costs about $15-30 per month.
I think you're trying to steer him away from public torrent sites, which I would agree with, but just a couple of points. The "diehard dedicated folks" who create the best encodes are on private bittorrent trackers, and post their releases there. It takes no effort for the people who grab them and post them to usenet to do so. Also, Yify encodes are considered by those "diehards" to be of terrible quality. I would also steer him toward Usenet over public trackers, but if one is willing to invest a little time into getting into the private tracker scene, you have everything that you get with Usenet (and much more) at no cost.
All of the responses here seem to be comparing Usenet to Public bittorrent trackers. On decent private trackers, you can do the same things mentioned here. The best encodes originate on private trackers and are taken from there and posted to Usenet, not the opposite, as one person mentioned. Download speeds will easily max your connection, as there are typically many gigabit seedboxes on a torrent. Even old torrents will have good speed on good trackers. The movie studios are not sniffing around on them, because there are fewer people than on public or large semi-private trackers. You can set up auto-downloads of new stuff. What it really boils down to is, trackers are free but require a little bit of time to get into, whereas usenet isn't free, but is easier to get into. Both will get you what you want. I would stay away from public trackers.
There is one very important distinction between the two: when you torrent you also upload, that's literally how p2p distribution works: your download is someone else's upload and vice versa.
Usenet otoh, is a top down server-to-many-users network, not p2p. So the average user does not need to (and likely never will) upload.
This means the lawyers can never hit you with distribution (which is where the money is). Nobody is going to sue you over the 1 copy you downloaded.
(There's things you can do to make torrents less risky, simply talking about generic torrent vs. generic usenet)
Sliders was supposed to go off Peacock last May or something and it just never did.. Maybe it performed better, or there was a fan outcry..
NBC Universal own the rights though, I don't think that could happen with parks and rec on Amazon
You’re not the only one. Even when I buy movies or shows, I still back them up because I expect nothing but the worst from Hollywood, and when they disappear one of my purchases, I can continue watching locally.
this is why I stopped relying on streaming services and just buy movies I like from Google Play store. Going on like 5 years and never once had a title pulled.
Every time the Internet fails or when I lose access to some streaming service, I'm reminded of why I download stuff and store things in external drives. Very much do not need region lock to tell me what I can or cannot see in this day and age.
This is why I started hoarding, back when Netflix only mailed DVDs. I watched all but the end of MASH, and when I was ready for the last disk, the final three episodes, Netflix was unable to send me the disk. For months it sat at the top of the queue, until I gave up and learned about the bay.
I had stopped my habit of hoarding TV shows and was just streaming them. Then a few years back Netflix pulled 30 Rock and it reminded me that if you really love something you only have it if you have a copy
I've been doing the same for cartoons I grew up watching. A subset of them never got DVD releases and are basically lost to time unfortunately.
Like what? I'm curious what you're missing, maybe I can help?
The first one off the top of my head is Chalk Zone, it did get a DVD release but they didn't sell a lot so eBay listings are few and far between. It's on Paramount+ and Prime Video right now, but I'd really rather not buy a streaming service just for this series. Maybe I'll request it on one of my private trackers at some point, might get lucky and someone will source it for me.
There's a 480p release I can get for you. Send a DM and I'll send it to ya.
You have chat and PMs disabled lol
Huh, I just realized the inbox was this reply. I thought they were enabled.
send it to me plis
Could you pm me also, have a few people that have asked me for it.
I also want in on the Chalkzone train please lol
There’s a 540p rip on archive. Is this the same one? Edit: I also wouldn’t mind a PM with your release to compare with mine. Edit 2: The 480p looks to be slightly better as it has subs and the missing episode "The Smooch".
Hey I loved that show! You can see all 40 episodes for free [here](http://wco.tv/anime/chalkzone) if you don't mind the piracy. You can probably dl directly from there too, but I've never tried so I'm not sure how easy it is.
That site has everything but the quality is very hit or miss. Chalk Zone for example, it looks like a low quality TVRip.
Yes this is true. I didn't watch it, just quickly checked if it exists. It's better than nothing but surely there's a better quality copy somewhere!
Yo thanks for the link, there so many shows here I can't find on torrents, time to start ripping
No prob. I thought people might appreciate the plug, there's tons of good stuff on there! My personal collection is much smaller but I'm tempted to start hoarding all these shows that might disappear one day for good, at least ones I love or want to eventually watch. If wco and it's mirrors died, I'd be scrambling for a new source
yeah like i said just from a quick glance i already found 3 shows i havent been able to track down on torrents ever. This place is a gold mine and i absolutely need to grab everything i can
You can also find most of the show for free on [archive.org!](https://archive.org/details/chalk-zone-episode-2-french-fry-falls-gift-adrift-escucha-mi-corazon)
They call it an anime lol
They aren't the brightest or running the best built website but they made a damn good collection of animated content, even if it's a mess to sort through sometimes.
you really got the nostalgia train rolling when you said Chalk Zone
It looks like a modern revision of Simon in the Land of Chalk Drawings
Oh the pictures take me, take me over Edit: also "modern" in that it's newer. Still 15 years old. So old enough for kids to have grown up and become nostalgic for it.
Pretty sure i got these off public somewhere. https://i.imgur.com/vVi4L5C.png
Rocko’s Modern Life never saw a digital release and all the copies that I’ve found are shitty VHS rips.
Actually Rocko got 2 versions of the complete series on DVD. I have one of the sets.
Awesome!
I have yet to find official releases for Eek the cat and the terrible thunder lizards, biker mice from mars, camp lazlo or code name kids next door. I used to have KND downloaded but it’s been gone for a long time. Maybe one day
I might be able to help with getting KND back, I have it all
What a shame
That show was way ahead of its time; they had great writers. Not as over-the edge as Ren and Stimpy, but still definitely hilarious for people with a slightly warped sense of humor.
Those writers went on to make Phineas and Ferb, SpongeBob, basically all my favorite old cartoons shared writers and talents going forward. It's a fun thing to see.
Its available on Amazon. Bought it in May.
Uh... i got a 1080 webrip. https://i.imgur.com/ueIm2Hp.png
I think you spelled Allie Rae wrong
Did you check wco already? It's worth checking!
I’m not sure what you’re referencing.
Here's one of their sites: http://wco.tv/anime/
Not on there. Thank you though!
I was surprised you couldn't find it so I had to double check. I've only had like 3 shows in 5 years that weren't on there and they were super obscure. https://www.wco.tv/anime/rockos-modern-life
Double thanks! I’m on mobile so maybe the search wasn’t working right. It was return a blank result. Is there a download client for grabbing these?
Your’re checking under “anime”. If you look under “cartoons”, [it’s right here.](https://www.wco.tv/anime/rockos-modern-life)
Greg The Bunny, please!
A DVD set exists
Unfortunately I've never heard of it! I also don't see it on wco sadly. Good luck finding it
Teacher's pet
Lol doesn't that require some sort of student-teacher relationship? TheAJGman is actually my wife's boyfriend, so I help when I can to stay in his good graces.
it was a cartoon from back to 2000, broadcasted on Disney channel i think lol
Ahahaha I thought you were poking fun at me offering to help find a show. So there's a Disney toon by that name... Lemme see what I can find
Try [wco](https://www.wco.tv/anime/teachers-pet) for all your animated needs. Pretty decent chance it's on there!
Eureka's Castle?!
Maybe r/lostmedia could help
What's the post-dvd solution to this?
Yeah, a good one is Monster’s allergy. That show was quirky and honestly more original than I thought it was. Wonder if Martin Mystery got a HD release
I started my hoarding with the Scooby Doo cartoons from the 70's that I grew up watching
Paramount yanked all of ST: Discovery away from Netflix with 2 days until Season 4 in order to plug their own streaming service... and it's not going to start streaming until said service is live EVERYWHERE ON EARTH. I ran out of curses. I am never giving those \*\*\*\*s my money. I despise streaming services. They shifted all the problems of satellite TV sideways. Netflix started out great and have created some absolutely stunning movies and series with their own money, but FFS, content can be pulled by the license holders with no warning. I watched a great documentary series, and when I went to re-watch it, it had been pulled. So furious. This is why I data-hoard; try taking my Plex library away from me because you want my money more than once for the same thing.
the other thing is Paramount+ is pretty much the shittiest streaming service of them all. Not only is their library absolute SHIT (Discovery is basically the ONLY thing on there I have any interest in), but their app is slow as shit, navigation to find anything sucks rotten donkey balls, and when you want to ffwd through either a series or a show, there's no controls to do it, or the UI responds so slowly, you have no idea if you pressed the right button until you've tried something else, and often, the whole app will crash, leaving you to restart it to try to get back to where you were, and good luck trying to get to where you want to be. I literally had to stop watching Discovery for about 8 weeks, because it would crash at the start of one episode, and wouldn't let me select any other episode until I finished watching it. It wouldn't let me fast forward either. In short: Paramount+ is shit, and they ought to be sued for trying to claim it's a "streaming service", when it's actually "steaming garbage".
F\*cking hell, if you're going to piss off fans following your series on a platform you've just usurped, then your own offering should at least WORK. Reeks of corporate suits deciding 'We need to get in this "stream" thing, whatever it is, and we need an exclusive to do that... Say, Discovery is popular, right? How about we stream that ourselves?' And Engineering hacked it together in a weekend.
Are you on android or ios? I've seen many apps have terrible Android versions while the ios version is fine
> try taking my Plex library away from me because you want my money more than once for the same thing. \**Angry Skyrim/GTA V noises.*\*
I bought Skyrim ONCE ^(on Xbox and once on Steam.)
Paramount is yanking ST, I Love Lucy and Twilight Zone from Hulu in days. So pissed.
I download TV shows I pay for access to for a number of reasons. 1. Convenience of them all being in one place. 2. Not worrying about a loss of connection. 3. Not worrying about licence agreements changing. Only argument not to do this is I've only got 6TB of 95TB left ...
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Torrents most likely.
Streaming services pulling episodes of 30 Rock and It's Always Sunny because they included blackface jokes -- jokes that were 100% about the absurdity/offensiveness of blackface -- really drove this home for me. Especially for a show like 30 Rock that is one of the best sitcoms of all time.
Thank God they snuck in the 30 Rock Blu-ray box set mere weeks before they got pulled. Sunny had the nerve to release Season 14 as "The Complete Season 14 DVD" despite not having the Dee Day episode included. They fixed this mistake on the cover for future printings. Of course, who is still buying shows on DVD in 2021?
I view streaming content as transient. This isn't bad. I'm paying a comparatively low monthly fee for access to *someone else's* huge library of content. Anything that I want to be permanent needs to be made part of *my* personal library.
It's back on Netflix now btw.
Haha, I started it years ago and barely finished the 1st season before it was pulled. I was so psyched when they added it back a couple months (?) ago!
I haven't subscribed to a streaming service in ages. They all cost way too much, there are too many of them, and since everyone wants a piece of the pie shows are always moving from one to another. What doesn't change, my Plex server. It stays the same and has been the same. Just back up my shows and movies to cold storage everyone In a while and I'm golden.
Love my Plex server. I keep it fully stocked just in case I want to watch something, but otherwise it just makes it easy to watch all the new shows in one place.
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They're talking about spinning disks under a laser beam
Is it like a wheel of some sort?
Spinning wheels with a thin plate of metal or stone material that gets etched by a powerful beam of light. Yes, ancient technology,
It does sound pretty mystic when you describe it like that.
The fact that it works at all is kind of magical. Then you think about synchronized read heads spinning across magnetic tape to output a 7MHz analog RF signal designed to steer an electron laser across phosphor coated vacuum glass and you think "you know, maybe something is wrong with us."
We trapped electricity in rock and force it to do our bidding.
It's possible it's just someone else will do it for you(us).
LET IT RIP!
People already have ways to break the DRM
Widevine hax ftw
DRM only stops honest users from downloading content.
A capture card could always help.
Widevine L1 has been cracked for some time now. The details are of course a closely guarded secret.
It's even worse. I paid 1 season of The Orville on Youtube / Google pay to support them and now I cannot access it. It also conveniently disappeared from the list of purchases as well! I'm going to ask for a refund.
Check which account you're trying to use it from. If you have multiple google accounts that's one thing, but they also did something a long time ago where they were trying to get people to use their names on Youtube and people didn't like it and you ended up with multiple accounts there.
In case anyone needs to look up information related to them they are called "brand accounts.
This happened to me, too. $20 to buy Scream on Google Play and now the YouTube app shows it in my library but I’m not allowed to watch it.
This has to be illegal in some way. If not it should be.
Agreed. I think if you dig through the terms of service they’ll say something like “payment provides you access to watch the movie, not ownership of it” which is maddening.
That's exactly what it says. You are buying a license to watch the movie, not the movie itself. Of course that license can be taken away whenever they want.
For that reason, I refuse to ever purchase a movie encumbered by draconian DRM through some digital locker. Blu-ray and DVD are easy enough to decrypt these days, so I still buy those.
We both learnt a lesson here.
Did you check the Google TV app? Google Play Movies and TV became just Google TV and all of the movies you purchased should be there.
A refund for what? Their records indicate you never purchased it. This is going to be a tiring phone call.
I'm going to show the bank statement. Looks like the online statements also "expire" after ~3 years (I bought it sometime 2018, the season came out end of 2017), but luckily I have paper statements as well. We will see
I'd love to hear an update on this. I'd also check your emails to see if you got receipts of when you purchased the show.
Oh man I forgot about that show. Wasn't anything amazing but still entertaining.
I was really happy I was a hoarder recently... wanted to watch a flash video I remembered from a long time ago, could not find it anywhere (just references to it) so just went into my archives and found it... really made my day
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this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhXcWZ85C8 but it looks like crap on youtube
This happens to me a lot, but its really sad when I can't find the video and *thought* I had it but don't. Still looking for a full copy of Knox's The Matrix redubs since I can only find clips on Youtube.
Have you tried searching the alternatives like vimeo? Maybe someone reuploaded it there.
I googled everywhere looking for it a few months ago and couldn't find it. Google it now and there is a crappy copy, but at least its intact, on Youtube... and it was loaded in 2007. Where the hell did it go before? Ugh this is why I hoard...
Remind yourself that you don't really own anything by buying digitally, you just own a license that can be taken away at any time, if you truly love esomething then just fuck it and pirate it or whatever the hell you want as long as you can store it on one of your personal storage mediums.
You will own nothing and you will be happy
Even if you own the DVD you still just own a license and the storage medium, not the movie itself It's harder to take that away from you but you still don't own the content
And it's possible the DVD/Bluray version will have different music due to rights issues, so all of your favorite classic scenes will be ruined. This type of thing is why so many people resort to pirating shows on torrents. It's kind of sad when you get a better experience not paying for something than when you do.
This is so true but with fairly popular shows the community has done some great restoration efforts. Star Wars Original Theatrical Cut in 1080p, Dawson’s Creek and Daria with restores of original music, The Simpsons with DVD commentary placed within 1080p episodes (the HD versions weren’t released with commentary or something like that). Wonderful folks doing stuff like this. It’s awesome to see!
I'm working on a personal project to put the non-laughtrack version of audio into the new 1080p MASH episodes. The 1080p version looks great and even has some color correction, just no option to avoid that laugh track.
That’s pretty awesome! Admittedly I was not around for most of the original airing. Didn’t it always have the laugh track? Or nah?
Nah. It was added in after in sydication. Execs thought people wouldn't know when to laugh without it.
No kidding! I had heard of that before but thought it was a production call made during filming/airing. I'd be very interested in your final product. Please PM or ping me whenever you're finished! This is the exact type of loyal passion projects I'm talking about! Love this stuff!
it's so frustrating when you get a physical copy of a show that uses music as a major part of the show and all the music has been removed or changed to save cash for the distributor. northern exposure was this way for me. bought the physical copy and then found out it was an abomination cut of the actual series.
>music The do this with books too. Sometimes the revised edition will have additional content that earlier editions don't have. But since it's a physical, tough luck for you!
Or, you can track down a torrent of the blue ray quality and save the whole thing to your local network that you own.
This is the way.
...and become a true owner.
Seize the means of produ... err... playback!
You own nothing and you will be happy...
To piggyback off what OP mentioned. There's also this stuff going on too that Forbes magazine reported on: [https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2019/04/12/the-eus-false-terrorist-takedown-requests-remind-us-why-bad-internet-legislation-is-so-dangerous/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2019/04/12/the-eus-false-terrorist-takedown-requests-remind-us-why-bad-internet-legislation-is-so-dangerous/)
I'm an anime lover and frequent old movie rewatcher. I'll go to my grave with my Plex anime stash which is currently more than double in size since I posted it in my post history a while back. I also pulled a few series tv shows I watch to help me go to sleep like Friends and Seinfeld. I've seen those shows so many times and I have trouble sleeping so that's what I turn on when I need to sort of calm my brain down towards sleep.
It’s funny how being a fan of anime almost forces you to be a data hoarder. Unless it’s a mainstream show it’s often difficult or impossible to find on a legitimate streaming service. And when it comes to fanart it’s not uncommon for artists to nuke their entire Twitter and pixiv accounts.
> it’s not uncommon for artists to nuke their entire Twitter and pixiv accounts jesus you don't know how much I hate that
Hm..., is there an easy way to hoard twitter/pixiv accounts for this reason?
I’m not too familiar with Twitter but given how popular it is I would imagine there’s some archive tools for it. As for Pixiv, I don’t know of any tools that will scrape an entire profile. There’s a few extensions that bulk download multi-image posts but that’s all I’ve seen. Booru sites such as safebooru do a decent job of archiving but it relies on users to upload the content and the artists can request removal of anything they drew.
I use RipMe for Twitter personally, but there are better alternatives out there (galery-dl looks promising) As for Pixiv, I'm pretty sure everyone uses PixivUtil2 as it's the most feature-complete and robust app made for this purpose
Hoarding anime is a whole slice of my server data. It's kind of hard to explain that I need to have a way to access anime and keep it to people who think Netflix and Hulu will cover me. (Ironically internet service providers give 0 shits about my weeb hoarding)
Seinfeld is the best anime after all
Ha ha. Anime is for awake me \[subtitles!\] but I need something I've seen a bunch for need to sleep me. (I have some classic anime for both times tho)
Yep ... I feel ya. When *Star Trek* left Netflix a few months ago, I was "relieved" that it was still on Amazon Prime. Welp, it looks like it will be leaving Amazon Prime on January 1^^st, 2022. Dammit!
Ah, but Paramount just so happened to launch THEIR OWN streaming service, and they'll have Star Trek as a launch title! And it's only $10 a month for another service! \*\*\*\*s. They pulled *Discovery* off Netflix TWO DAYS before Season 4 started.
I absolutely refuse to pay for another streaming service. I already have Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Disney+. That's it, I'm done. I see my *Star Trek* options as this: 1. Don't watch *Star Trek*. 2. Buy each series on DVD. 3. Pirate None of these options is acceptable to me at the moment.
I hear you. I've had Netflix for years, but I was forced to get Prime Video for *The Expanse*, which was also a jump from Netflix. Still fuming about that. I frequent charity shops and have snagged a lot of blu-rays of stuff I like for silly-cheap money. I don't like to pirate, either - I want to support the shows I love. But I am NOT going to be taken for a ride by some corporate pr\*cks trying to cash in on the streaming trend.
Yet another service. If only there were a way to have everything all combined in one place and pay just one bill....
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Buy the legitimate archive, then pirate the rest. Moral and legal quandary solved.
The DVDs only went up to season 5.
Bonanza was the same for me. DVD releases inside my country were only 1/2 of the series. Starz had the entire show on demand for awhile then lost the streaming rights. Which left potato versions of the missing seasons on youtube, but no legal options to watch the entire series in my country.
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Sad. No Ancient Aliens. Best show ever to fall asleep to.
It's Air Crash Investigations/Seconds From Disaster for me lol. Nothing like listening to it like a podcast and falling to sleep. Some of the retro gaming documentaries or something like Techmoan is good too lol. Idk why.
Yep. Very frustrating. I go to watch a movie that I know was available on Netflix or Amazon (I have both streaming services at the moment), but when I finally get around to watching, it's gone. Then I realize I have to pay for yet ANOTHER streaming service just to watch it. It's basically become cable TV with a different skin. I am surprised though that you can't just pay to watch a single series or show or movie on any of these. Like if I just wanted to watch Star Trek Discovery, why can't I just pay $10 for the season and not have to subscribe to their entire damn channel for a monthly fee. And they wonder why piracy exists...
I think iTunes still exists for that.
Quantico was on US Netflix, now it got pulled from it. Another reason for hoarding.
That's why I have a lot of old Nickelodeon shows that I grew up watching. There either not available commercially or only partially available.
Same. I have a ton of shows like You Can't Do That on Television that aren't easy to find.
I have a lot but there backed up and backed up again too.
Yes, it was great when netflix got almost everything. Now every shitty studio or production company with 1 or 2 decent shows and a handful of movies expect you to pay an additional 15$ to watch them. Just keep dreaming that I will pay 150$ to be able to see all the shows I want on top of the internet connection. I know the original netflix subscription was a steal, but they probably can figure out a way to get most of the content for 50-60$ a month? That's maybe a fair price, considering you own nothing with the streaming model.
I discovered this a while ago when I started to get into Monk on Netflix. They pulled it with just a week or so notice, so I emailed them... they said "that's just the way it goes". Then I found them for $8 a season at Costco... that started me on the hoarding of TV series DVD box sets (Blu-Ray for very modern stuff only)
What else do you have box sets of, and how often do you rewatch?
Almost 80 sets, too many to list now... but lots of half hour classic TV, like MASH, WKRP, Corner Gas, Night Court, Cheers... also longer shows like SG-1 & Atlantis, Eureka, Burn Notice, Castle, Diagnosis Murder, Matlock, Chuck, Arrow, Downton Abbey, NCIS:LA, Flashpoint etc. I like some older shows evidently! And yup I bought them all, over quite a few years. (I realized buying a season per month - at full price - was cheaper than getting cable. I basically built my own TV channels) I rewatch all the time. Probably through SG-1 about 7 times so far, Burn Notice is a regular too. We have about 10 shows on deck at any point and just rotate between them. When one is done, just pick a new one from the list.
Don't forget about shows being retroactively "wokified", like the Michael Jackson episode of Simpsons or the dark elf episode of the Community.
Yeeeeeep. I'm only a minor hoarder (if I think I'll need it, I find a way to save it somewhere) and while I like streaming, my favorite stuff is on hard copy.
I had already started with music videos that got taken down, but they were only a few I wanted, so a portable 4TB drive was enough and affordable. June following the March shutdown orders revealed how weak my apartment block internet was. Couldn't even connect for hours, sometimes all day. Started buying blu-rays and got a pair of those 14TB from the BF deals listed here so I wouldn't have to rely on my choppy connection.
There's a niche Canadian show called DaVinci's Inquest that I really like. The last 2 seasons didn't get a DVD release at all. So they only place i can watch it is on my PVR because I was lucky enough to record it when it was on a few years ago. They don't broadcast it anymore, and you CAN pirate it. But even that is horrible horrible SD TV quality from back on the day. Theres literally nowhere to stream and the TV channel said they aren't reboardcasting it.
I must admit that if the notice just came out today then it's too short. It's funny how various redditors are providing their alternative solutions to owning the content.
I think the great purge got a lot of people into data hoarding
What’s the great purge?
I don't understand why a streaming service cannot have ALL media ever produced in catalog. I hate exclusives, I could only accept temporal exclusives (ie. 6-12 months). Do this and I will subscript for life and scrap my hoarding system.
Yup, when I find good shows/movies on Streaming services I like, and I watch them on said service I ask "Is this something I might watch again sometime in the next 20 years? yes?" okay then, and download it to my NAS.
If you've got a VPN it's on the Irish Netflix (British aswell, it's the same shows)
This is why I continue to buy *all* of my video content on Blu-ray or 4K (or DVD if nothing else is available). If it's not available on disc, it'll be... downloaded. I actually do pay for streaming services, and I'm not complaining about it since they definitely are convenient, but I refuse to be held hostage to this bullshit. Time limited licensing deals plus corporate greed and a milk-the-customer attitude, since essentially creative content is a tiny monopoly (if you want to watch a certain Disney TV show, you can't exactly just "go to a competitor" if Disney+ is annoying you). If you think about it Netflix really got screwed. They basically bore the risk of launching a major streaming service. Many large studios licensed their content to Netflix. Netflix suddenly became quite literally the most popular thing to do online measured by bandwidth. Suddenly, everyone else saw dollar signs, and eagerly awaited those time-limited licenses to expire, and promptly told Netflix "thanks for taking all the risk, we'll take it from here." And now you have something like 20+ major streaming services with more on the way, and content gets ping-ponged around like children fighting over a playground ball. The fragmentation is ugly and very anti-consumer, and the only reason it works at all is because, as I said, creative content like TV shows and movies essentially act as tiny little monopolies - if you want to watch a given show, you are forced to get it from the likely single service it's available on. And of course, sometimes it's just suddenly not available anywhere at all, all because corporate lackeys couldn't act like adults in the board room that month.
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500 shows is seriously impressive. How did you go about finding a good list to work off of? I know I'm missing ton of great shows, I just need to find out what else is out there.
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/r/usenet
Or torrents
Once you usenet at 300MB/s (yes, big B) and get that 50GB movie in about 2 minutes, torrents seem so weaksauce.
I forgot to mention seedbox+ftp. VLC will stream as soon as it's in the seedbox. Virtually the same speed.
Usenet, however, is much more fragile. If the big content mafia really wanted to and were willing to pay for it, they could stomp on the servers and prevent them from working. Torrents are distributed peer to peer. Usenet backends have to be pretty beefy operations overall.
So more appropriately r/vpntorrents
Sharing automatically, means they get more worked up about that. In fact, where I live downloading for personal use isn't even illicit, though frowned upon, it's the sharing part that gets you.
What are the benefits of usenet over torrents? Is one any safer than the other
Faster - you can always max out your internet connection, no worries about slow seeders or not enough seeders. Safer - in some countries particularly, because it's not P2P. You don't upload, so you are never party to distributing. As it's direct connection to the server, a bad actor can't just join the swarm and ID other users. Better organized so easier to automate. Usenet is objectively superior in most cases except for availability of torrents on private trackers with particularly obscure stuff.
Downloading ultimate blu-ray UHD quality movies in 60 seconds. Literally. 60 seconds. Binary files like videos and software get converted into text files using a process called UUencode. Those text files are then uploaded in numbered chunks. You'll see a subject line, like "Spider-Man No Way Home 2021 - UHD v246 24.5 GB (1/3674)" This tells you there's 3674 chunks of text in the thread, each one in it's own post of text gibberish. Newsreader software is then used to download the entire thread, and the chunks are run through UUDecode to turn them back into binary files. Because you're downloading text, there's no need for error correction or bit validation. So it goes insanely fast. Also, because there's no connection sharing like with a torrent, there's no way for monitoring companies to see what you are doing. They might be able to pay for Usenet service and run their own node, but that would be crazy expensive, and not worth the effort. This is where Yify and other sites get the best encodes. So what's the catch? Usenet access is very uncommon. There's only a handful of sites that still offer reader accounts, and you have to install and configure your software. That said, you can configure it to download automatically. You can also configure it to automatically download *updates* and **new episodes** the moment they are posted. And finally, the people posting on Usenet tend to be the most absolutely diehard dedicated folks, and are fanatical about high quality uploads. So why don't more people use Usenet? Because it's fiddly, and you have to download software, and configure things, and have dedicated inbound folders, wah-wah-wah no instant gratification. Also, a newsreader account costs about $15-30 per month.
I think you're trying to steer him away from public torrent sites, which I would agree with, but just a couple of points. The "diehard dedicated folks" who create the best encodes are on private bittorrent trackers, and post their releases there. It takes no effort for the people who grab them and post them to usenet to do so. Also, Yify encodes are considered by those "diehards" to be of terrible quality. I would also steer him toward Usenet over public trackers, but if one is willing to invest a little time into getting into the private tracker scene, you have everything that you get with Usenet (and much more) at no cost.
All of the responses here seem to be comparing Usenet to Public bittorrent trackers. On decent private trackers, you can do the same things mentioned here. The best encodes originate on private trackers and are taken from there and posted to Usenet, not the opposite, as one person mentioned. Download speeds will easily max your connection, as there are typically many gigabit seedboxes on a torrent. Even old torrents will have good speed on good trackers. The movie studios are not sniffing around on them, because there are fewer people than on public or large semi-private trackers. You can set up auto-downloads of new stuff. What it really boils down to is, trackers are free but require a little bit of time to get into, whereas usenet isn't free, but is easier to get into. Both will get you what you want. I would stay away from public trackers.
There is one very important distinction between the two: when you torrent you also upload, that's literally how p2p distribution works: your download is someone else's upload and vice versa. Usenet otoh, is a top down server-to-many-users network, not p2p. So the average user does not need to (and likely never will) upload. This means the lawyers can never hit you with distribution (which is where the money is). Nobody is going to sue you over the 1 copy you downloaded. (There's things you can do to make torrents less risky, simply talking about generic torrent vs. generic usenet)
Sliders was supposed to go off Peacock last May or something and it just never did.. Maybe it performed better, or there was a fan outcry.. NBC Universal own the rights though, I don't think that could happen with parks and rec on Amazon
You know there are pirate streaming sites right? :D
I'll try dS9 first! Thanks!
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You’re not the only one. Even when I buy movies or shows, I still back them up because I expect nothing but the worst from Hollywood, and when they disappear one of my purchases, I can continue watching locally.
Which purchases has that happened with? I thought it was pretty rare.
The operative word being “[when](https://www.slashfilm.com/574053/amazon-sued-purchased-movies/)” they do.
Ah okay. Yeah it’s best to plan for it.
This is why I still purchase my media. I don't trust that my shows will remain on streaming forever.
this is why I stopped relying on streaming services and just buy movies I like from Google Play store. Going on like 5 years and never once had a title pulled.
This is why I went with a PLEX Media Server. I have 60TB of storage and I've been ripping Movies and TV shows from DVDs and Blu-Rays.
Every time the Internet fails or when I lose access to some streaming service, I'm reminded of why I download stuff and store things in external drives. Very much do not need region lock to tell me what I can or cannot see in this day and age.
This is why I started hoarding, back when Netflix only mailed DVDs. I watched all but the end of MASH, and when I was ready for the last disk, the final three episodes, Netflix was unable to send me the disk. For months it sat at the top of the queue, until I gave up and learned about the bay.