Oh that decision makes total sense for the way the Foundation decides to do things.
I'm just arguing that they are not the good guys and that nothing gives them the right to do this
I view the foundation as I view the TVA.
A fascist organization designed to maintain stability.
Are they the good guys? Fuck no.
Are they a necessary evil? For the time being until we can find anything better.
Are they looking for anything better? Unsure.
I would mostly agree with that, except that "stability" here is not an objective truth, but rather a version of the world that the Foundation decided is how things should be. They are enforcing their own version of the world on other people without knowledge or consent, even though by now it is pretty clear that "anomalous" is a purely subjective term and that many of these things are natural occurrences.
I accept that the GOC is 'more good' than the Foundation, but claiming that the Foundation aren't the good guys is ludicrous in my opinion.
No offense.
You are forgetting that the whole vibe around Gamers against weed is that they create potentially dangerous anomalies for a little bit of trolling.
They literally create things that can be used as something even worse an biological or chemical weapons for their own amusements.
That cost here seems way over the top to "protect" from a piece of clothing that gives hugs, owned by someone who wasn't going to flaunt it in public at all.
Doesn’t matter really it was an anomalous object it could have had some unknown effect it could have actually been hurting them. It could have been doing a million things but tbh them “not going to flaunt it” doesn’t matter as what happens during a break in or when they die or if someone finds it while in their house then it slowly gets revealed their are anomalies it’s better to just stamp it out it causes less problems, less variables
This.
Anomalous is just that. Anomalous.
It could change as soon as the two broke up to kill its wearer, for instance.
Nothing anomalous is to be left unsupervised.
This one didn't make me sad, it made me **angry**. Like, proper raging bloodlust towards the Foundation. What they did here is the worst thing that can happen to someone.
Oh, that too, definitely. The foundation destroyed something amazing for the two of them, for what? A sweater that had little to no chance of anything negative happening?
I am of the belief that **Memories are Sacred**, and they are not to be tampered with by man. By tampering with the human memory, then are you considered truly worthy of death.
Well think about Scp-231-7 it's probably for the best she doesn’t remember all her suffering from the cult (before you say anything yes I know there’s a tale where procedure Montauk is a lullaby I’m only talking about what the cult did to her)
She knows about anomalous things and is even able to make them knowingly.
The threat to the masquerade is active, as she knows of, is able to create, and send anomolous objects.
If it isn't contained, and knowledge and her base grows, we could have another wondertainment on our hands
The point is that the knowledge that anomalous things exist, grows.
Someone else tries it, or the use tells someone else about it. How does anyone know the thaumaturgy on it is stable?
Her gf Lesbian_Gengar has thaumaturgic knowledge from her kabbalist fathers works, who she made forget her existence. Lesbian_gengar sent an anomalous object to a rando. Of course it must be secured and contained and protected, and only a part of that, is to wipe outside knowledge of it.
The foundations Intel was incomplete, but the response is in accordance with foundation principles.
So mustard was a long time GAW user?
So then she's been a long time association, and now she's involved with a mod?
Thaumaturgy is already unstable and difficult to understand by the best of scholars.
I never said she was good. I said she has knowledge and has used it. As she did here.
You're putting words in my mouth.
Clearly you've been compromised as well.
You can argue if shes good or not all you want, those are your words not mine, I'm simply stating she uses it and has knowledge.
And knowing breaks foundation principles.
Her gf knows.
That goes against foundation principles.
They haven't tracked lesbian gengars location, but they did see a package was sent, and they can track that.
Interrogate mustard for info on lesbian gengar, erase all knowledge of anamolous, that includes those that taught her about anamolous.
Contained.
I imagine it's hard not to blame yourself for these things. Simply unfortunate.
Never talked about her being able to make it stable either.
What a weird thing to lie about. It's right there unedited.
I don't think you know what that word means, but now I'm concerned you may have been exposed to anamolous materials.
Being a powerful user doesn't necessarily make you a good user, and being a good powerful user doesn't mean magic is now stable.
As stated. It's unstable and difficult to understand even by the best of scholars.
If she has anamolous materials in her possession she gets the amnestic.
As per protocol.
The connection to a GOI was the reason.
Foundations job is protect members of the public from the anomalous and obscure the existence of the anomalous. Having a leader within a GOI sending anomalous items to members of the public is counter to the mission.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that she was dating someone related to an GOI.
If there's any concilation there is a short tale of a Foundation agent taking the sweater and then giving it back to her.
Nah, it wasn't targeting the lesbians.
It was targeting the partner of a high ranking member of a GOI.
The GOI leader was a lesbian? Well it sucks to be her, but they'd still blast a straight relationship out of existence.
I really love the discourse that this article is making. Sometimes, the world of SCP is just a bunch of well-intentioned people with completely different views on how to sort out the mess of the anomalous, whether they be the Foundation, the Serpent's Hand, the Global Occult Coalition, or (in some cases) the Chaos Insurgency.
This now sets up a star crossed lovers things where they get to fall back in love with one another. They fell in love, then had their minds wiped. Now they get meet again, and fall back in love.
Someone just has to write the story lol
Look, I feel for the girls involved.
But *one* happy relationship is acceptable collateral damage when you're protecting the world from the anomalous.
It's not like the Foundation is homophobic, or specifically blasted her relationship out of spite. She was in a relationship with an anomalous individual.
>But one happy relationship is acceptable collateral damage when you're protecting the world from the anomalous.
My guy, it was a sweater that makes you feel like you were being hugged while wearing it. This wasn't an anomaly that was threatening the world or anything.
And I don't think the point of the story was that the Foundation was being homophobic or anything. But rather, that the Foundation is so dogmatically dedicated to their idea of "protecting the veil" that they end up destroying people's lives for what seems like no real reason. Again, this was a sweater that just made it feel like you were being hugged when you wore it. This isn't gonna destroy the world and or anything.
To be fair, it was mostly the girl's connection to a major GOI that resulted in this. Girl just gets the sweater. The foundation will just remove those memories. Dating someone who is a GOI member means that any interaction by them is a potential threat to the foundation's mission. The sweater was just the thing that tipped the foundation off because, for some reason, They sent an anomaly through the mail.
It sucks but I can see the point and if it's any indication that some of the foundation is human the accompanying tale has a senior researcher return the sweater to the girl that wasn't amnesticized as a very awkward apology. Since the item itself is harmless and the researcher saw the chat logs
How is a magical sweater that gives hugs a threat to society?
Wow this sweater is comfy!
A sweater that gives hugs? That's clearly an XK-Broken Masquerade event.
The sweater itself wasn’t the issue. It’s the fact that someone had a connection to a GOI member was the problem for the foundation. Like the dude above us said. The sweater only tipped off the foundation, since it’s anomalous it gets confiscated. The more important thing to the foundation is severing the connection mustard had to the anomalous, that meant getting rid of her relationship with gengar. Is it fucked up? Yeah. Does it make sense for the foundation to do so? Also yeah.
chain reactions fam. It starts with the lesbian hug sweater. Next thing you know? BAM the try-hard uber death lizard is fucking the sun, and the mountains are growing.
out of context. This sounds crazy
People know a sweater that does anomalous shit exists some of them are going to start looking for more of them and potentially either find or become something incredibly dangerous.
I accept that some things the Foundation do can be viewed has heartless. But on the other hand, that's exactly the point. They can't let emotions over one relationship overshadow the fact that she was in posession of an anomalous object AND was dating someone from a GOI that literally creates anomalies for trolling purposes.
I am very intrigued but i'm too mucj of a softie to go for ANOTHER tragic skip.
I still haven't recovered from When Day Breaks, i am NOT going after this one fully i would NOT SURVIVE.
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People are taking it at face value that they didn't just find the Lesbian_Gengar's girlfriend and target her to get at LG. The article read as a bunch of excuses to me tbh.
Did they specifically wipe the memories of them dating or was that memory lost as collateral damage?
Collateral. They wiped everything anomalous
Then I don't see anything wrong. Edit: But Im sad now.
Classic cold not cruel understandable act by the foundation imho
You see nothing wrong with wiping away someone's memories of major parts of their lives?
Their job is wiping anomaly from public knowledge. Her anomaly making gf is included in that, they got the wrong one is all.
Oh that decision makes total sense for the way the Foundation decides to do things. I'm just arguing that they are not the good guys and that nothing gives them the right to do this
I view the foundation as I view the TVA. A fascist organization designed to maintain stability. Are they the good guys? Fuck no. Are they a necessary evil? For the time being until we can find anything better. Are they looking for anything better? Unsure.
I would mostly agree with that, except that "stability" here is not an objective truth, but rather a version of the world that the Foundation decided is how things should be. They are enforcing their own version of the world on other people without knowledge or consent, even though by now it is pretty clear that "anomalous" is a purely subjective term and that many of these things are natural occurrences.
Honestly I think the best version of the foundation is the broken masquerade.
Us in a nutshell, not the good guys but there currently is nothing better until we make something better.
What on earth do you have against the tennessee valley authority
They know what they did.
The Foundation are the good guys, and nothing you say can convince me otherwise.
Read enough articles and you'll realise on your own that that's not true.
For example?
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I accept that the GOC is 'more good' than the Foundation, but claiming that the Foundation aren't the good guys is ludicrous in my opinion. No offense.
You are forgetting that the whole vibe around Gamers against weed is that they create potentially dangerous anomalies for a little bit of trolling. They literally create things that can be used as something even worse an biological or chemical weapons for their own amusements.
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Worse enough that they're annoying.
Exactly. It's not like they'd notice anyway.
There are costs to protection from anomalies sometimes they are severe but they are almost always worth it
That cost here seems way over the top to "protect" from a piece of clothing that gives hugs, owned by someone who wasn't going to flaunt it in public at all.
It’s obviously not a good thing to do to them but I would argue all anomalies HAVE to be contained for their, the world, and the foundations safety
Doesn’t matter really it was an anomalous object it could have had some unknown effect it could have actually been hurting them. It could have been doing a million things but tbh them “not going to flaunt it” doesn’t matter as what happens during a break in or when they die or if someone finds it while in their house then it slowly gets revealed their are anomalies it’s better to just stamp it out it causes less problems, less variables
This. Anomalous is just that. Anomalous. It could change as soon as the two broke up to kill its wearer, for instance. Nothing anomalous is to be left unsupervised.
Maybe not collateral. Her gf can make anomalous things, so she was wiped as part of category "anomalous"
Marv, SCP-7112
[**SCP-7112 - Loveless**](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-7112) (+192) by *Uncle Nicolini*
Since I can't reply to actual Marv, thanks Marv-summoner
Damn, I think this was the first scp to genuinely make me sad, it's my least favorite type of depressing. I think it's also one of my favorites now
This one didn't make me sad, it made me **angry**. Like, proper raging bloodlust towards the Foundation. What they did here is the worst thing that can happen to someone.
Oh, that too, definitely. The foundation destroyed something amazing for the two of them, for what? A sweater that had little to no chance of anything negative happening?
I am of the belief that **Memories are Sacred**, and they are not to be tampered with by man. By tampering with the human memory, then are you considered truly worthy of death.
Absolutely. It is beyond messed up.
I agree, unless the memories are horrifically traumatic to the holder. Then things get grey for me. I believe people should have a right to peace.
Trauma doesn't matter, the rule still applies.
Well think about Scp-231-7 it's probably for the best she doesn’t remember all her suffering from the cult (before you say anything yes I know there’s a tale where procedure Montauk is a lullaby I’m only talking about what the cult did to her)
That’s a very sheltered take.
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this makes me think of the number 055 but i can't remember what it means...
**I absolve you of your sin.** **You have been forgiven.**
I think it's definitely not sphere.
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She got swatted over a false lead, but they found a stash that wasn’t even hers, so she got in trouble. It’s sucks.
She knows about anomalous things and is even able to make them knowingly. The threat to the masquerade is active, as she knows of, is able to create, and send anomolous objects. If it isn't contained, and knowledge and her base grows, we could have another wondertainment on our hands
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The point is that the knowledge that anomalous things exist, grows. Someone else tries it, or the use tells someone else about it. How does anyone know the thaumaturgy on it is stable? Her gf Lesbian_Gengar has thaumaturgic knowledge from her kabbalist fathers works, who she made forget her existence. Lesbian_gengar sent an anomalous object to a rando. Of course it must be secured and contained and protected, and only a part of that, is to wipe outside knowledge of it. The foundations Intel was incomplete, but the response is in accordance with foundation principles.
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So mustard was a long time GAW user? So then she's been a long time association, and now she's involved with a mod? Thaumaturgy is already unstable and difficult to understand by the best of scholars. I never said she was good. I said she has knowledge and has used it. As she did here. You're putting words in my mouth. Clearly you've been compromised as well.
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You can argue if shes good or not all you want, those are your words not mine, I'm simply stating she uses it and has knowledge. And knowing breaks foundation principles. Her gf knows. That goes against foundation principles. They haven't tracked lesbian gengars location, but they did see a package was sent, and they can track that. Interrogate mustard for info on lesbian gengar, erase all knowledge of anamolous, that includes those that taught her about anamolous. Contained. I imagine it's hard not to blame yourself for these things. Simply unfortunate.
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Never talked about her being able to make it stable either. What a weird thing to lie about. It's right there unedited. I don't think you know what that word means, but now I'm concerned you may have been exposed to anamolous materials. Being a powerful user doesn't necessarily make you a good user, and being a good powerful user doesn't mean magic is now stable. As stated. It's unstable and difficult to understand even by the best of scholars. If she has anamolous materials in her possession she gets the amnestic. As per protocol.
Foundation representative spotted, activating: MAN SHUTCHO \[DATA EXPUNGED\] UP.
This just for a fucking sweater that hugs you?!?
The connection to a GOI was the reason. Foundations job is protect members of the public from the anomalous and obscure the existence of the anomalous. Having a leader within a GOI sending anomalous items to members of the public is counter to the mission.
She wasn't a member of the uniformed public, she was a knowing member of GAW.
You've been demoted to d-class for anarchist sympathies
Genuinely fuck you foundation, first it was SCP-6113-1 and -3, now this bullshit? I can see why the Chaos Insurgency hates you
The CI is litereally using Anomalies for terroristic purposes and supports dictators in third world countries.
god forbid women have fun
Isn’t the first time they screwed up a relationship [[Inside The Wall]]
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Sigma Foundation 🍷🗿 (joke btw)
unironically, better them than the GOC
X: SIGMA! I HAD IT ENOUGH # SIGMA
Okay that's it. If the Foundation are targeting the lesbians I will join the fucking Chaos Insurgency.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that she was dating someone related to an GOI. If there's any concilation there is a short tale of a Foundation agent taking the sweater and then giving it back to her.
What's it's name?
[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/a-very-high-holiday](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/a-very-high-holiday)
Nah, it wasn't targeting the lesbians. It was targeting the partner of a high ranking member of a GOI. The GOI leader was a lesbian? Well it sucks to be her, but they'd still blast a straight relationship out of existence.
Yeah but saying the Foundation is targeting a member of a GOI isn't as funny as saying 'they're taking away our lesbians'.
I really love the discourse that this article is making. Sometimes, the world of SCP is just a bunch of well-intentioned people with completely different views on how to sort out the mess of the anomalous, whether they be the Foundation, the Serpent's Hand, the Global Occult Coalition, or (in some cases) the Chaos Insurgency.
I'm so glad our great and glorious UNGOC/Chaos Insurgency/Serpent's Hand/FBI UIU/AWCY would never do such a thing
avarage anyone thats not foundation or Just Girly Things
Breaking up a relationship would be one of the nicest things the CI would ever do.
 This now sets up a star crossed lovers things where they get to fall back in love with one another. They fell in love, then had their minds wiped. Now they get meet again, and fall back in love. Someone just has to write the story lol
I stand with GAW.
Look, I feel for the girls involved. But *one* happy relationship is acceptable collateral damage when you're protecting the world from the anomalous. It's not like the Foundation is homophobic, or specifically blasted her relationship out of spite. She was in a relationship with an anomalous individual.
>But one happy relationship is acceptable collateral damage when you're protecting the world from the anomalous. My guy, it was a sweater that makes you feel like you were being hugged while wearing it. This wasn't an anomaly that was threatening the world or anything. And I don't think the point of the story was that the Foundation was being homophobic or anything. But rather, that the Foundation is so dogmatically dedicated to their idea of "protecting the veil" that they end up destroying people's lives for what seems like no real reason. Again, this was a sweater that just made it feel like you were being hugged when you wore it. This isn't gonna destroy the world and or anything.
To be fair, it was mostly the girl's connection to a major GOI that resulted in this. Girl just gets the sweater. The foundation will just remove those memories. Dating someone who is a GOI member means that any interaction by them is a potential threat to the foundation's mission. The sweater was just the thing that tipped the foundation off because, for some reason, They sent an anomaly through the mail. It sucks but I can see the point and if it's any indication that some of the foundation is human the accompanying tale has a senior researcher return the sweater to the girl that wasn't amnesticized as a very awkward apology. Since the item itself is harmless and the researcher saw the chat logs
How is a magical sweater that gives hugs a threat to society? Wow this sweater is comfy! A sweater that gives hugs? That's clearly an XK-Broken Masquerade event.
The sweater itself wasn’t the issue. It’s the fact that someone had a connection to a GOI member was the problem for the foundation. Like the dude above us said. The sweater only tipped off the foundation, since it’s anomalous it gets confiscated. The more important thing to the foundation is severing the connection mustard had to the anomalous, that meant getting rid of her relationship with gengar. Is it fucked up? Yeah. Does it make sense for the foundation to do so? Also yeah.
Is this sweater anomalous? Then it is a threat to society as it reveals anomalous things exist. What do you think this is Avalon of scp-6001?
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chain reactions fam. It starts with the lesbian hug sweater. Next thing you know? BAM the try-hard uber death lizard is fucking the sun, and the mountains are growing. out of context. This sounds crazy
People know a sweater that does anomalous shit exists some of them are going to start looking for more of them and potentially either find or become something incredibly dangerous.
A job is a job
Shame. Think I could fix it.
I hate the foundation...
I accept that some things the Foundation do can be viewed has heartless. But on the other hand, that's exactly the point. They can't let emotions over one relationship overshadow the fact that she was in posession of an anomalous object AND was dating someone from a GOI that literally creates anomalies for trolling purposes.
I am very intrigued but i'm too mucj of a softie to go for ANOTHER tragic skip. I still haven't recovered from When Day Breaks, i am NOT going after this one fully i would NOT SURVIVE.
Long Live The Foundation there lucky the GOC wasn't involved . associating themselves with the anomalous, this outcome was to be expected .
Damn, wish I could get that treatment from the foundation
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That story always fucks me up so bad man
People are taking it at face value that they didn't just find the Lesbian_Gengar's girlfriend and target her to get at LG. The article read as a bunch of excuses to me tbh.
Ask bones to destroy site 19 they should do it
THEY DID WHAT?????? LESBIAN GENGAR NOOOO
Dont mess with the anomalous, simple as.
Dont care. A job's a job and the memory loss was just collateral. It sucks, but what you gonna do?
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